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Posted: 1/24/2021 11:12:54 AM EDT
The billion year old black and decker toaster oven I have finally died. I have a small kitchen and this was great because it was one of the hanging under the cabinet models to free up some counter space. I can't find any on Lowes, Home Depot, Amazon, and even looking at the one model black and decker lists on their site it looks like it hasn't been available in years. Did fire codes or something finally catch up with this type of product?
For those of you blessed with a large kitchen and ample counterspace this is what I'm talking about:  |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 11:18:39 AM EDT
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Fire hazard.
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Posted: 1/24/2021 11:21:01 AM EDT
[#2]
Those appear to be bringing good money on ebay.
I think B&D was the only company to make those. Anyway, I can't imagine it would be all that difficult to come up with a way to mount almost any toaster oven under a cabinet. I think you could probably have some steel or aluminum bent into a u shape to fit a regular toaster oven and mount that under a cabinet. Or, just get one of the ninja ones that sits on the counter but flips up and out of the way when not in use. Just be aware that they are pretty spendy compared to B&D small appliances. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 11:21:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fire hazard. Idiots installing them incorrectly. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 11:22:02 AM EDT
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Take it to a repair shop. Best bet is to find one with a little old guy in a tiny cluttered storefront, he can fix it.
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Posted: 1/24/2021 11:22:38 AM EDT
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But where does all the heat go?
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Posted: 1/24/2021 11:24:06 AM EDT
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Everyone is going the air fryer route now.
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Posted: 1/24/2021 11:24:39 AM EDT
[#7]
Check out eBay.
They have some that are new in the box for serious dough. Also some new, open box items listed. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 11:27:53 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/24/2021 11:28:05 AM EDT
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My house came with an oven.
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Posted: 1/24/2021 11:30:16 AM EDT
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There was a recall on some of those many years back. Send them your cut cord and they mailed you a refund.
My sister still uses hers. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 11:34:12 AM EDT
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if its dead, you have nothing to lose. carefully take the cover off and clean the temp dial control contacts. it has isolators and blades that engage adding power to the elements.
you may also see a wire connection that overheated (contact resistance) and burned. clean it up and reconnect. good luck! |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 11:35:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But where does all the heat go? |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 11:41:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But where does all the heat go? |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 11:45:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: if its dead, you have nothing to lose. carefully take the cover off and clean the temp dial control contacts. it has isolators and blades that engage adding power to the elements. you may also see a wire connection that overheated (contact resistance) and burned. clean it up and reconnect. good luck!  Maybe I can make a new one and call it a "convection kitchen radon filtration unit" and get them made again. 
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Posted: 1/24/2021 11:51:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fire hazard. ^^^This |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 11:58:14 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/24/2021 11:58:50 AM EDT
[#17]
Made my own hope this helps
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Posted: 1/24/2021 12:40:14 PM EDT
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That is old school now.
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Posted: 1/24/2021 12:44:25 PM EDT
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Check the overstock and any stores that buy discontinued items. I got my last one at Ollies. But that was probably 6-8 years ago.
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Posted: 1/24/2021 12:59:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/24/2021 12:59:34 PM EDT
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Black and decker looks like they still make one, may be out of stock due to COVID?
https://www.blackanddecker.com/products/small-appliances/kitchen/toasters-and-ovens/spacemaker-underthecabinet-4slice-toaster-oven/tros1000d but if you want to up your game, get a breville countertop model. Kicks the ass of the black and deckers. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 1:02:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But where does all the heat go? It goes into the toast. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 1:14:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryCherry 2000, quite the reference pic! |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 1:14:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Everyone is going the air fryer route now. Get both. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 1:16:04 PM EDT
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I would be extremely leery of an appliance that gets that hot, that close to wooden cabinets. Not to mention the possibility of grease igniting within inches of a kindling source.
But that's just me. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 1:22:39 PM EDT
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I had one of those B&D toaster ovens back in the day. didn't have the hanging mount.
the one I have now sits out of the way, on top of the fridge, until it's needed |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 1:29:06 PM EDT
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Im thinking about getting this. Can eat hot dogs all day long. With ex catsup
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Posted: 1/24/2021 1:31:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I would be extremely leery of an appliance that gets that hot, that close to wooden cabinets. Not to mention the possibility of grease igniting within inches of a kindling source. But that's just me. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 1:37:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It goes into the toast. "So if you put bread in, and toast comes out, where does the bread go?" ~Joe Biden (2020) |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 1:48:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Idiots installing them incorrectly. I'd bet more setting flammable stuff on fire in it be more likely. Hard taco shells and the like are very easy to ignite. I had to chuck a counter top toaster oven out the back door once because of it. If it had been an under cabinet one I'd have been grabbing for the fire extinguisher! |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 1:49:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd bet more setting flammable stuff on fire in it be more likely. Hard taco shells and the like are very easy to ignite. I had to chuck a counter top toaster oven out the back door once because of it. If it had been an under cabinet one I'd have been grabbing for the fire extinguisher! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Idiots installing them incorrectly. I'd bet more setting flammable stuff on fire in it be more likely. Hard taco shells and the like are very easy to ignite. I had to chuck a counter top toaster oven out the back door once because of it. If it had been an under cabinet one I'd have been grabbing for the fire extinguisher! |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 3:17:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Those appear to be bringing good money on ebay. I just checked ebay and holy crap, those old toaster ovens are going for way more than I thought. I've gone one that is hardly ever used since we got an air fryer and the wife is constantly nagging me to throw out the old toaster oven. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 3:31:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How the hell did you set a taco shell on fire in a toaster oven? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Idiots installing them incorrectly. I'd bet more setting flammable stuff on fire in it be more likely. Hard taco shells and the like are very easy to ignite. I had to chuck a counter top toaster oven out the back door once because of it. If it had been an under cabinet one I'd have been grabbing for the fire extinguisher! I believe that it is caused by the oil in them spattering and getting on heating element. Many hard taco shells even have a warning on the box not to heat in toaster oven. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 4:41:25 PM EDT
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They stopped making them in the late 90's when Black and Decker had to do a recall of 200k ovens.
The recall notice says at least 242 fires were recorded, which is a pretty high failure rate. A lot of them were never replaced despite the recall. They are absolutely a fire hazard, because the heat from the oven emits right under a cupboard full of potentially flammable items. https://www.cpsc.gov/Recalls/1998/cpsc-black-decker-settle-toaster-lawsuit-improve-recall-remedy |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 4:48:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How the hell did you set a taco shell on fire in a toaster oven? Turn it on, apparently...  There is a lot of oil in them. You can use corn chips for fire starter. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 5:33:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Im thinking about getting this. Can eat hot dogs all day long. With ex catsup http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51%2B6QFVFD6L.jpg  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 5:42:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They stopped making them in the late 90's when Black and Decker had to do a recall of 200k ovens. The recall notice says at least 242 fires were recorded, which is a pretty high failure rate. A lot of them were never replaced despite the recall. They are absolutely a fire hazard, because the heat from the oven emits right under a cupboard full of potentially flammable items. https://www.cpsc.gov/Recalls/1998/cpsc-black-decker-settle-toaster-lawsuit-improve-recall-remedy Quote HistoryQuoted: They stopped making them in the late 90's when Black and Decker had to do a recall of 200k ovens. The recall notice says at least 242 fires were recorded, which is a pretty high failure rate. A lot of them were never replaced despite the recall. They are absolutely a fire hazard, because the heat from the oven emits right under a cupboard full of potentially flammable items. https://www.cpsc.gov/Recalls/1998/cpsc-black-decker-settle-toaster-lawsuit-improve-recall-remedy The toasters are being recalled because they can allow food to catch on fire, and when the toaster door automatically opens and the food rack extends beyond the door, flames from the food can escape the unit and expose kitchen cabinets and their contents to the fire.  RIP Gas can nozzles and suspended toaster ovens that weren't designed by idiots. Ye were gone before your prime.  |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 5:44:41 PM EDT
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Lmao, I'm going to die because I put taco shells in the toaster oven.
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Posted: 1/24/2021 5:45:33 PM EDT
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Were under cabinet toaster ovens ever really a thing?
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Posted: 1/24/2021 5:46:24 PM EDT
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In other news, guns are dangerous
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Posted: 1/24/2021 5:48:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My house came with an oven. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 5:53:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In other news, guns are dangerous WHAT THEN!?? THINK OF THE CHILDREN!  |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:01:21 PM EDT
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I don't think I've ever even seen one of these actually hung in a house. And I remember Montgomery Wards and Service Merchandise.
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