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Posted: 5/20/2022 6:38:49 PM EDT
[#1]
Nah let those lazy shitbags learn about consequences.
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Posted: 5/20/2022 6:40:48 PM EDT
[#2]
Standards are there. Stick to them. Consistently. Otherwise, they are your standards. Their own fault, not yours.
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Posted: 5/20/2022 6:42:13 PM EDT
[#3]
I graduated with under a 1.0 gpa. I had already joined the army and had gotten into good shape. Senior year was a blur. They probably don’t care. I didn’t. Good times.
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Posted: 5/20/2022 6:42:20 PM EDT
[#4]
The World Needs Ditch Diggers…
That said I would give some of them a chance *if* you think they can. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 6:43:01 PM EDT
[#5]
 Then I got sent to military school, and oh boy did my slacking days come to an abrupt halt. 
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Posted: 5/20/2022 6:43:11 PM EDT
[#6]
I was a HS slacker. Don't matter how many breaks you give them, how much extra time ect. Wont make a bit difference they ain't doing it anyway.
Hopefully in a year or two they will wise up and get their shit together. Some do and some never will. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 6:44:40 PM EDT
[#7]
Even if they don't pass/graduate, it's not the end of the world. They can get a GED, or come back next year.
They're ~18. They need to be assigned the task of figuring their life out. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 6:46:42 PM EDT
[#8]
Yep. Nobody retainsuch after elementary school anyways. High school is just training to show up and be an employee and do as you're told for a boss. Id give them every chance possible to at least graduate from the scam .
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Posted: 5/20/2022 6:46:59 PM EDT
[#9]
How many are we talking about? What percentage of the class?
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Posted: 5/20/2022 6:47:35 PM EDT
[#10]
Bring the trades back to HS’s.
Not everyone learns from a book. I struggled in HS. Once I barely got through, I thrived in the trades. These days I would make many of my former teachers very proud, or jealous. Bring the fucking trades back, NOW! |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 6:48:07 PM EDT
[#11]
I would give them a midnight deadline/grace period for tomorrow. See who stays home to get it done on a Saturday.
I understand the frustration, but that's literally taking a year of someone's life away if you fail them. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 6:48:15 PM EDT
[#12]
I was a high school slacker. Let them go to summer school and get their diploma in the principal's office
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Posted: 5/20/2022 6:48:55 PM EDT
[#13]
I basically graduated on a plea bargain.
I got nothin'. Related: None of my employers since have ever given a shit. Everything since, had been a slow grind based on provable accomplishment. So...I dunno. Some of the slackers are going to end up just fine, and some of the slackers are going to mirror the stereotype. I dunno. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 6:49:57 PM EDT
[#14]
I was a fuck up in HS.
The only thing that motivated me to get off my ass was that I had been working shit jobs since I was 10 years old and by the time I was a JR in HS, I became aware that some folks had better paying jobs, lived in bigger houses, and drove nicer cars. The dentist who lived down by the beach in a mansion and drove a great car was my role model. I just copied him. Fortunately, I could do school if I wanted to. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 6:50:11 PM EDT
[#15]
Op doesn't pay enough.
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Posted: 5/20/2022 6:50:26 PM EDT
[#16]
I got a Hail Mary assignment my senior year. Write a short sci-fi story, get an A, and I would graduate. I stole a story from an 8th grader that I found online. It was the dumbest story ever. The teacher pulled me aside and told me how he knew I had it in me all along and he gave me an A+.
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Posted: 5/20/2022 6:50:57 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I would give them a midnight deadline/grace period for tomorrow. See who stays home to get it done on a Saturday. I understand the frustration, but that's literally taking a year of someone's life away if you fail them. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 6:51:38 PM EDT
[#18]
There's no way you're a teacher with sentence structure like that. You can't even spell pass properly.
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Posted: 5/20/2022 6:52:03 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I got a Hail Mary assignment my senior year. Write a short sci-fi story, get an A, and I would graduate. I stole a story from an 8th grader that I found online. It was the dumbest story ever. The teacher pulled me aside and told me how he knew I had it in me all along and he gave me an A+. Haha... gamed the system. Love it. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 6:52:06 PM EDT
[#20]
No!
They’ve had an entire year to to do the work; they didn’t. Despite giving them a second chance they elected not to take advantage of the opportunity you afforded them. How many strikes do they need before they fail? |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 6:52:11 PM EDT
[#21]
When I taught college, I would meet anyone halfway.
The people who didn't show some effort got what they earned. No one slacks all semester and then pulls it out in the last week. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 6:52:23 PM EDT
[#22]
No. Vast majority on this site are past the age of high school. They went through school along with the school bullshit. If kids do not figure out how to put in the work and take their deserving lumps, when necessary, they will be useless in the big bad world.
If they don't like it they can cowboy the fuck up. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 6:52:45 PM EDT
[#23]
Slacker checking in...don't move the goal posts.
If they fail, they fail. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 6:52:56 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I was a HS slacker. Don't matter how many breaks you give them, how much extra time ect. Wont make a bit difference they ain't doing it anyway. Hopefully in a year or two they will wise up and get their shit together. Some do and some never will. All of this. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 6:53:01 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They did it to themselves. A HS diploma shouldn't be a participation trophy. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I would give them a midnight deadline/grace period for tomorrow. See who stays home to get it done on a Saturday. I understand the frustration, but that's literally taking a year of someone's life away if you fail them. ETA: I'm not talking about the ones who blew off finals and everything. Just the paper. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 6:53:08 PM EDT
[#26]
Everyone deserves one "hand up". Not a "hand out"
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Posted: 5/20/2022 6:53:43 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Even if they don't pass/graduate, it's not the end of the world. They can get a GED, or come back next year. They're ~18. They need to be assigned the task of figuring their life out. …one is 19. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 6:53:49 PM EDT
[#28]
Pre covid, I might say fail them to prepare them for real life.
Now, everyone “works” from home and does nothing, accountable for nothing. To prepare them for the real world these days you should pass them all regardless of whether they did it, promote the worst student to teacher, and plant seeds that the best performer bullied or exploited everyone else to get there. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 6:53:57 PM EDT
[#29]
I was a slacker in HS, in my Senior Year mostly. Im Not proud of it.
I passed by the grave and mercy of some great teachers that decided to give me a second chance on a few classes at the last minute. They each gave me a stone faced lecture about it. So I graduated, and those short lectures stuck with me. I grew up a lot and five years later went to college. I graduated college with a 4.0. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 6:54:22 PM EDT
[#30]
I slacked off senior year, but that was because most of the classes didn't mean anything to me. We moved, and I had enough credits when I transferred in to graduate a year early, except for a required 4th unit of English and a semester of American Government. New state had different required classes. I didn't want to go to summer school to graduate early, and my parents made me a take a full schedule because they didn't want me doing a single class a day and goofing off or hanging around the house, so those classes, except for the required units, didn't mean much to me.
As a result, I slacked off, which didn't do my GPA any favors and cost me a National Merit Scholarship, but I was fine with just going to the local state university, anyway. Mostly kept to myself, snuck off to the library to read or computer labs to "program" (mostly played games). It meant I got to take a lot more computer classes, which were interesting to me, and I still passed even the boring classes without putting much effort in. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 6:54:35 PM EDT
[#31]
You gave them a chance for what amounts to extra credit, and they're late on the last chance?
Fuckem. ETA-And I say this as someone who had a class I hated freshman year, every time I had homework I didn't want to do I left my homework in the urinal. I got to take that class again as a sophomore. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 6:54:55 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I would give them a midnight deadline/grace period for tomorrow. See who stays home to get it done on a Saturday. I understand the frustration, but that's literally taking a year of someone's life away if you fail them. Most didn't do 1 assignment. Did I or did they take their own year away? |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 6:54:58 PM EDT
[#33]
I dropped out my Junior year. Fuck that noise. I make more than a HS principal
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Posted: 5/20/2022 6:55:08 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Now, everyone "works" from home and does nothing, accountable for nothing. Are you saying I should be doing this from an office building, instead of my house?
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Posted: 5/20/2022 6:55:29 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I was a high school slacker. Let them go to summer school and get their diploma in the principal's office .Guess who’s teaching summer school Gov/Econ?
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Posted: 5/20/2022 6:55:45 PM EDT
[#36]
You could have said I was a slacker my senior year. I skipped school a lot and called my boss and made up some bullshit like teacher's institute and asked to come to work. He always let me.
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Posted: 5/20/2022 6:56:14 PM EDT
[#37]
You gave them their chance, with clear expectations spelled out in advance. Rules are rules.
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Posted: 5/20/2022 6:56:48 PM EDT
[#38]
I was a huge slacker in school, the only thing I had any interest in was machine shop and drafting.
It wasn't until my shop teacher splained to me. I needed math and english to be worth a fuck as a machinist, that I settled into it. Graduated with honors. Still not very smart but getting by. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 6:57:08 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Most didn't do 1 assignment. Did I or did they take their own year away? I meant the ones who had there pass/fail just weighing on the paper. I may be misunderstanding your OP too. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 6:57:14 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There's no way you're a teacher with sentence structure like that. You can't even spell pass properly. Yes, this thread is all a lie…. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 6:58:34 PM EDT
[#41]
The class is .gov / econ...
 Anyone else think that's hilarious? |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 6:59:46 PM EDT
[#42]
I fucked off through my junior and senior years, got the grades I deserved, and was nearly fucked when it came time to wrap everything up and head out to the Marines. I managed to pull it off thanks to a local adult high school, and it's never mattered since, but it was one hell of a solid lesson in actions having consequences.
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Posted: 5/20/2022 7:01:30 PM EDT
[#43]
Fuck em.
I had to stay into summer my senior year and finish all the assignments I had missed through the year to pass. As an adult now, if I don't get my work done, I don't get paid for it. They might as well learn now. That said, I didn't care much for high school, but I did enjoy working actual jobs at that time, school just wasn't where I wanted to be, and my current career can be entered without any high school (but it helps if you are reasonably intelligent). |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 7:02:39 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Bring the trades back to HS's. Not everyone learns from a book. I struggled in HS. Once I barely got through, I thrived in the trades. These days I would make many of my former teachers very proud, or jealous. Bring the fucking trades back, NOW! I'm not unintelligent, I just hated high school. I didn't do well because I didn't want to learn about ancient Egypt anymore. Auto tech opened me up to learning about machines and mechanical things. Bring back tech schools, STOP CALLING THEM LOSER SCHOOLS, and maybe we could stop importing fucking foreigners to do jobs we should be doing. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 7:03:12 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Bring the trades back to HS’s. Not everyone learns from a book. I struggled in HS. Once I barely got through, I thrived in the trades. These days I would make many of my former teachers very proud, or jealous. Bring the fucking trades back, NOW! This! |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 7:03:42 PM EDT
[#46]
High school and adult secondary ed teacher here. Turn in all the work you are missing and, if it doesn’t completely suck, I’ll pass you. If it is total shit or you don’t even bother, then I’ll see you at night school come August.
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Posted: 5/20/2022 7:04:26 PM EDT
[#47]
As a former slacker, don’t immediately judge too harshly.
Consider asking if a lot of shit went down recently in their lives, they may be salvageable. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 7:04:55 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This. I would have dropped out if it weren't for going to vocational school. I'm not unintelligent, I just hated high school. I didn't do well because I didn't want to learn about ancient Egypt anymore. Auto tech opened me up to learning about machines and mechanical things. Bring back tech schools, STOP CALLING THEM LOSER SCHOOLS, and maybe we could stop importing fucking foreigners to do jobs we should be doing. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Bring the trades back to HS's. Not everyone learns from a book. I struggled in HS. Once I barely got through, I thrived in the trades. These days I would make many of my former teachers very proud, or jealous. Bring the fucking trades back, NOW! I'm not unintelligent, I just hated high school. I didn't do well because I didn't want to learn about ancient Egypt anymore. Auto tech opened me up to learning about machines and mechanical things. Bring back tech schools, STOP CALLING THEM LOSER SCHOOLS, and maybe we could stop importing fucking foreigners to do jobs we should be doing. I went to a vocational school half days my junior and senior year. The guidance counselor called me in 3 times to try to talk me out of it. She actually said "you are too smart for those programs". It was peak telling millennials that they needed to go to college or they wouldn't amount to shit. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 7:06:02 PM EDT
[#49]
There shouldn't be publicly paid gate keepers in the first place. Abolish public schools.
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Posted: 5/20/2022 7:07:28 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The World Needs Ditch Diggers… That said I would give some of them a chance *if* you think they can. Companies hiring "ditch diggers" are going to require a work ethic. Making excuse for not getting the work done will get you fired. So yes, the world needs underground construction, but these kids ain't it. |
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