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Posted: 10/9/2021 9:16:42 PM EDT
[#1]
I got a load of garden soil one day to fill some 8’x8’x 12” planters. It pretty much maxxed out my long bed GMC 2500 HD. Lotta work shoveling it out. Think it was 3 yards. I’m already at avg. life expectancy.
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Posted: 10/9/2021 9:18:33 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Throw your back out and your in for a much more expensive time  This. A few hundred dollars spent is well worth it. Even better, hire somebody to do it. In my experience there's plenty of guys out there with equipment that love these small jobs. Often is basically the same price you'd pay for a rental but you get a guy who knows the machine and does the work for you. |
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Posted: 10/9/2021 9:21:09 PM EDT
[#3]
I’d try another source on the mini skid steer. Local place around here has one $140/4 hours, $195/day.
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Posted: 10/9/2021 9:21:29 PM EDT
[#4]
Yes
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Posted: 10/9/2021 9:22:09 PM EDT
[#5]
Meh. I did 9 tons.
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Posted: 10/9/2021 9:22:47 PM EDT
[#6]
Look on face book marketplace. I bet there is somebody like me that will bring his small tractor for a couple hundred and move it all for you in an hour.
I got called to a job where the family was trying to move 2 truck loads by hand. In under 2 hours I had it moved, spread on the driveway, and headed the driveway before spreading. They were so exhausted and happy they paid me 300 when I was only charging 130. Funny thing was they were so close to my house I drove the tractor rather than bothering with a trailer. |
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Posted: 10/9/2021 9:22:51 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My wife did it - shovel and wheel barrel. Driveway is about 175 feet long. Of course, her mom helped her a little one afternoon. I think you’ll be just fine! You da man! |
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Posted: 10/9/2021 9:25:37 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted: I am working on a shed base and they dont "leave the pavement" when they deliver it. It's about 75 feet from my driveway to the shed location. It will be 100 trips assuming I put 200lbs of pea gravel in my wheel barrow. I have no idea how much 200lbs of gravel actually is in a wheel barrow, or how that will feel lifting it up. As long as I can get it done in a weekend it seems doable. A mini skid steer would be $400 for a day. But I would rather put that $400 towards equipment for the shed. 200 lb wheel barrows times 100? The damage to your back could well exceed $400. |
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Posted: 10/9/2021 9:36:04 PM EDT
[#9]
That's almost 7 yards. I shoveled 1 1/2 yards of gravel today from my truck bed(3 skid steer buckets) and carried it in 5 gal buckets. It took a few hours.
Shoveling from the pavement and carrying in a wheelbarrow would speed things up though. |
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Posted: 10/9/2021 9:38:26 PM EDT
[#10]
free exercise, do it! but you are not getting over 100lb in a wheel barrow per trip.
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Posted: 10/9/2021 9:47:15 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd think crushed stone would be a much better base then pea gravel. But I do hvac so I'm probably completely wrong Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: excellent question. I bought these permeable pavers that you need to fill with sub 1/2" aggregate. So my plan was to tamp the dirt, put down pea gravel, tamp the pea gravel, put down the permeable pavers, fill them with pea gravel, then tamp again. But I do hvac so I'm probably completely wrong You are more right than the OP. |
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Posted: 10/9/2021 9:53:07 PM EDT
[#12]
You need to rent something to move that gravel.
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Posted: 10/9/2021 9:54:08 PM EDT
[#13]
I’d just consider it a workout and do it manually.
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Posted: 10/9/2021 9:55:15 PM EDT
[#14]
No but I bet you sleep well the next few days. ;-)
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Posted: 10/9/2021 9:56:17 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Y’all’s mud is mud, mud. Turns into concrete when it dries. You got a lot of rocks too. The clay up here is just clay. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I’d love to see some of these people who just say get a trucking company that will dump it where ever, start paying tow bills. None of my trucks leave pavement or hard pack gravel. The end. Wow. Its quite different out east then. Going on dirt isn't even thought of around here. I hauled fuel for two years. Whether it was on dirt or not was never something I recall being discussed. During muddy season whether it was doable with the muddy or whether chains would be needed was considered. But even then we generally did it. We were on dirt a lot. Clay my man. Even right now, you roll a 64,000lb truck into someone’s yard, you’re calling a landscaper at a minimum. If not calling a hook. Only safe months are July and august - maybe early September, assuming it’s dry. I had a 6x6 fuel truck for a while for pad sites and directional drilling. All we did was cause $45,000 in damage to the tow truck. Blew out both main lift cylinders and snapped the cable in half when the cylinders failed, also bent one of his out riggers. There is no choice out here. Too rural, too much empty space, not developed and populated like out east. Lots of oilfield, ranching, construction, etc. You're going to be on dirt if you want to delivery anything. I've been stuck before. Just the way it is. I never saw them call a tow. We'd send in another truck and a couple guys would work together with a chain, shovels, etc and eventually get it out. Not saying it always worked but in two years never knew of them calling a tow. Y’all’s mud is mud, mud. Turns into concrete when it dries. You got a lot of rocks too. The clay up here is just clay. We have bentonite in some areas which is just nasty when wet. But not most areas thankfully. |
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Posted: 10/9/2021 9:57:23 PM EDT
[#16]
Your crazy spend the money . And Pea Gravel will NOT compact . You want crushed stone for the base .
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Posted: 10/9/2021 9:58:17 PM EDT
[#17]
Are you going uphill?
I do that kinda stuff for the exercise, the money saved is a bonus. |
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Posted: 10/9/2021 10:00:08 PM EDT
[#18]
I paid 3 25 year olds to spread 20 tons by hand and they all said it wasn't worth 200 bucks each after it was done.
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Posted: 10/9/2021 10:05:17 PM EDT
[#19]
I moved 16 yards of 3/4" gravel with a shovel and wheel barrow.
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Posted: 10/9/2021 10:12:33 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: As a poor, a DIYer and someone who like to challenge themself I would do it by hand.
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Posted: 10/9/2021 10:17:44 PM EDT
[#21]
But why
Just rent something and get it done in a few hours while drinking a beer operating said something Even better, put on some headphones blaring some EDM and then make it happen captain |
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Posted: 10/9/2021 10:17:55 PM EDT
[#22]
Mexicans.
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Posted: 10/9/2021 10:18:49 PM EDT
[#23]
Pay the $400. Your back and future self will thank you.
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Posted: 10/9/2021 10:26:45 PM EDT
[#24]
Your joints are going to feel like they’re made from stone and your muscles like they’re made from fire for about a week after.
I would do it, but I’m young and stupid
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Posted: 10/9/2021 10:27:28 PM EDT
[#25]
Pea gravel is not a suitable sub base
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Posted: 10/9/2021 10:32:54 PM EDT
[#26]
Quoted: I am working on a shed base and they dont "leave the pavement" when they deliver it. It's about 75 feet from my driveway to the shed location. It will be 100 trips assuming I put 200lbs of pea gravel in my wheel barrow. I have no idea how much 200lbs of gravel actually is in a wheel barrow, or how that will feel lifting it up. As long as I can get it done in a weekend it seems doable. A mini skid steer would be $400 for a day. But I would rather put that $400 towards equipment for the shed. |
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Posted: 10/9/2021 10:35:25 PM EDT
[#27]
Put a truck hood with a chain welded to it face down on the grass, shovel on the gravel and tow it to the site in several loads with your vehicle
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Posted: 10/9/2021 10:41:43 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: free exercise, do it! but you are not getting over 100lb in a wheel barrow per trip. I don't think he will be using a toy wheelbarrow. I load 8 50 lbs bags of concrete at a time in my wheelbarrow from the truck to the mixer when I am doing concrete work. |
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Posted: 10/9/2021 10:42:36 PM EDT
[#29]
100% rent the dingo
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Posted: 10/9/2021 10:52:56 PM EDT
[#30]
Do you have a riding lawn mower? Buy a Gorilla dump cart from Lowes and hook it to your mower. Wife and i moved 40 tons of dirt and 100 tons of rip rap with ours this summer. We were repairing damage to our yard and sea wall from hurricane Sally.
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:02:08 PM EDT
[#31]
Rent a machine for that job. At the very least, use a garden tractor and a cart that will hold more than 200 pounds at a time.
Pea gravel is not what you should use. You want rock that will compact. I think you might be in over your head. |
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:35:14 PM EDT
[#32]
We did that 20 years ago I was much younger and there were 3 of us but it took months to lay out 150 tons of 1/4- madison gold. I would rent equipment and save your back and knees. $400 is a drop in the bucket compared to what you can do with the time saved, you could do something else after you get done. You'll be burned out.
I hate pea gravel that is hard to walk on. |
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:36:04 PM EDT
[#33]
Recently I moved a yard (which is about 3,000lbs) of crushed stone, about that same distance in a few hours. Had to shovel it out of a bag (delivered on a pallet), into a wheel barrow, and dump it. I was sore as fuck afterwards for two days but I'm not exactly in great shape.
A few days later I moved almost a yard, so about 2,000lbs of sand a little further for my kid's sandbox I built. About a week after that I moved another yard of crushed stone all the way to the back of my yard for a shed base as well, but due to the price of lumber I wasn't building right away so I put it into an empty sack on a pallet. This meant having to shovel out the stone and into the sack after the first couple trips where I could dump it. Almost like moving it twice. The sand and second yard of gravel didn't hurt me anywhere near as much as the first yard did. Shoveling sand is much easier than crushed stone. I would fill up the wheelbarrow almost all the way, so it had to be well over 200lbs and closer to 300lbs. It was a 6cu.ft. type with pneumatic tire, those roll more easily than the flat free style. I also moved a yard of river rock a while before all of the above. Moved about 2 yard of dirt from the front yard to the back in preparation for the synthetic turf guys before that too. What's the point of all that? To say you should rent a machine or someone with a machine, or try tipping the driver to dump it where you need it. I did what I did due to the layout of my property and the difficulty of getting even a small skid steer in there, plus I don't know how to operate one. More so I did it to save money but the long term damage to my body will manifest itself later. |
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:39:38 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: spend the $400. |
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:43:44 PM EDT
[#35]
We moved 25T of 3/4" granite by hand. 4 guys 3 wheelbarrows 8 hours. I would want to do it again.
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:48:17 PM EDT
[#36]
Order road base from a company that will take three extra minutes to dump at the end of your drive where you want it. Rent a jumping Jack to compact it. Pea gravel is the wrong substrate for a shed foundation. It’s great for drainage, but terrible to support weight.
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Posted: 10/10/2021 7:39:47 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My thoughts. Maybe even $100. Most of the time it isn't the driver not wanting to do it, it is company policy. Go off pavement, ruin the guys lawn and he calls your company after you leave and demands the company pay to fix it. Company pays the homeowner then the driver gets suspended for breaking company policy. Not worth it, there are companies that will do it, but it will cost with the extra liability, OP might have just cheaped out. |
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Posted: 10/10/2021 7:50:47 AM EDT
[#38]
That's a lot of rock to moved that way. My Neighbor had a 1/2 truckload dropped in the street, had 2 sons helping him, and moving it by wheelbarrow they were still dealing with it 2 weekends later. They weren't going as far as you are.
Granted, I'm older and creakier than I used to be, but I dug out a 4x4 fencepost yesterday in 2 hours, and My shoulders aren't happy about it this morning. Doing another one today....I might hire having this pulled after I get down to where they can get a chain on it. |
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Posted: 10/10/2021 7:52:34 AM EDT
[#39]
Find some other work for the skid steer to do while it's at your house and make the rental worth the money.
Work smarter not harder. All the time you waste saving a couple hundred dollars could be used accomplishing other tasks. I've got 35 years as a concrete guy with more hours on a wheelbarrow than most guys will do in a lifetime. Pea rock is not a good base. Class 5, recycled concrete, crushed rock, not pea rock. |
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Posted: 10/10/2021 8:05:20 AM EDT
[#40]
Didn't read all the posts, so likely already covered, but just in case.
Pea gravel is for drainage, not structural base. It is too round and therefore will not lock together to form a decent base. You want aggregate specifically designed for compaction if you are using this for a base for the shed. Aggregate with a mixture of various sized stone with rough edges, including fines. This type of aggregate will lock together to form a stable base. |
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Posted: 10/10/2021 8:31:17 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I've done it here in June. Actually did 20 tons but over 2 days. It sucked but wasn't that bad. This |
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Posted: 10/10/2021 8:36:38 AM EDT
[#42]
Anything that’s measured by the ton should be moved with equipment or slaves..
I’d call another company who isn’t afraid to drive on your grass.. |
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Posted: 10/10/2021 8:39:36 AM EDT
[#43]
I'm at the age where my goal is always to work smarter, not harder.
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Posted: 10/10/2021 8:51:23 AM EDT
[#44]
What is that, about 3 yards? I did what you describe earlier this summer and it wasn't an issue. Took me maybe 4 hours.
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Posted: 10/10/2021 9:02:21 AM EDT
[#45]
Sounds like Manuel labor
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Posted: 10/10/2021 9:08:03 AM EDT
[#46]
I'd move it by hand. If you have some old shitty plywood, lay it on the ground and have them dump it on top of that. It will make shoveling it easier. Nice to see someone not afraid of some hard work.
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Posted: 10/10/2021 9:12:45 AM EDT
[#47]
I just did some stone moving myself. I moved 4 tons in a couple hours. 35 scoops per wheel barrel and 30 wheel barrels full. It was not fun. I figure I’ve got another 15-20 to go.
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Posted: 10/10/2021 9:29:58 AM EDT
[#48]
I moved over 15,000 lbs of dirt by hand last year in one day. When they dug my pool the bastards left way too much dirt back there. No way to get any machine back where it was. It was a lot of work, but not terrible. I had about 250 feet in between where I was shoveling to the dump trailer I had.
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Posted: 10/10/2021 9:31:58 AM EDT
[#49]
My parents had to put new gravel on their driveway. Growing up we used to get big piles delivered and spread it with shovels, rakes, and wheel barrows. Eff that.
Last time they had our neighbor come over with his fancy new conveyor belt truck. He delivered and spread it out in like 20 minutes. For reference:  Stone Slinger |
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Posted: 10/10/2021 9:34:35 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Which is why I'd get a stone slinger and never call you. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'd love to see some of these people who just say get a trucking company that will dump it where ever, start paying tow bills. None of my trucks leave pavement or hard pack gravel. The end. Which is why I'd get a stone slinger and never call you. |
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