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Now is the time to turn this on the local (county sheriffs department and school board), state, and federal level. Start the #you did this movement. This tragedy happened because of their gross negligence... I’m sorry this is t negligence, they took an active role in allowing this to happen. The state and the county officials allowed this to happen and it was done under the color of law. Yes, the fbi screwed up by not following up on two or three complaints about Cruz. But the biggest failure occurred at the local level. Broward County School Board and the Sheriff’s office failed their community. The school board by not notifying law enforcement about violent criminal acts of students. BCSO Responded at least 39 times to Cruz’s house, complaints ranging from mentally disturbed, elder abuse, domestic violence, missing persons, and nothing was done and no reports were taken. And then there is the state who denied the people the tools of which they could protect themselves with. Make them wear this bloody albatross around their necks. THEY DID THIS... THEY DID THIS... THEY DID THIS!!! Call them out by name and don’t give them a moments rest. Run them to ground until they have no ground to go to. Hold them accountable for their deliberate actions and make an example out of each and every one. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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"If Coach Feis had had his firearm in school that day, I believe that he most likely could've stopped the threat," Haab asserted. http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/17/student-florida-shooting-coach-gun/ Damn those South Florida RINOS Yes, the fbi screwed up by not following up on two or three complaints about Cruz. But the biggest failure occurred at the local level. Broward County School Board and the Sheriff’s office failed their community. The school board by not notifying law enforcement about violent criminal acts of students. BCSO Responded at least 39 times to Cruz’s house, complaints ranging from mentally disturbed, elder abuse, domestic violence, missing persons, and nothing was done and no reports were taken. And then there is the state who denied the people the tools of which they could protect themselves with. Make them wear this bloody albatross around their necks. THEY DID THIS... THEY DID THIS... THEY DID THIS!!! Call them out by name and don’t give them a moments rest. Run them to ground until they have no ground to go to. Hold them accountable for their deliberate actions and make an example out of each and every one. I Agree. Don’t forget the Pill Pushers force feeding our youth with poison. |
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According To The FBI, Knives Kill Far More People Than Rifles In America – It’s Not Even Close
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Hope you don't mind, I'm going to use this info. I don't suppose you have a listing that you used? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Just finished some quick research: Out of all of the States in the USA from 1990 to today, 11 States have had zero k12 and under mass school shootings... Of those 11, only 2 have zero provision for any lawful carriage of a firearm by faculty/teachers.. Out of all the States who have had mass shootings since 1990 in a k12 or lower school, 146 victims died in a school that had no provision for any lawful carriage of a self defense firearm by faculty/teachers. The number of Victim Deaths in Schools with at least one provision for Lawful carriage of a self defense firearm by faculty or teachers? 30... I used this for most of my data: It seems fairly comprehensive, but feel free to show me a better source. https://ballotpedia.org/United_States_school_shootings,_1990-present#School_shootings_by_region Google searches for most of the law part. I tried to give as much to the left as possible just so i can throw their own sources for in their face. i mostly used the Gifford site for the "guns in school" yes or no. i also painted any school that "allowed for individual authorization by the controlling school district/superintendent" as an affirmative for guns being present in schools by faculty.. just to remove absolutely any argument from the left claiming "your wrong, see!! they can have guns, look right here at this little tiny rule that never gets used!!" Please remember, this is ONLY k12 and under. these statistics do not include collage shootings. i wanted to keep it close the topic at hand. |
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i encourage you to double check me. This was just a couple of hours of cursory research. I used this for most of my data: It seems fairly comprehensive, but feel free to show me a better source. https://ballotpedia.org/United_States_school_shootings,_1990-present#School_shootings_by_region Google searches for most of the law part. I tried to give as much to the left as possible just so i can throw their own sources for in their face. i mostly used the Gifford site for the "guns in school" yes or no. i also painted any school that "allowed for individual authorization by the controlling school district/superintendent" as an affirmative for guns being present in schools by faculty.. just to remove absolutely any argument from the left claiming "your wrong, see!! they can have guns, look right here at this little tiny rule that never gets used!!" Please remember, this is ONLY k12 and under. these statistics do not include collage shootings. i wanted to keep it close the topic at hand. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Just finished some quick research: Out of all of the States in the USA from 1990 to today, 11 States have had zero k12 and under mass school shootings... Of those 11, only 2 have zero provision for any lawful carriage of a firearm by faculty/teachers.. Out of all the States who have had mass shootings since 1990 in a k12 or lower school, 146 victims died in a school that had no provision for any lawful carriage of a self defense firearm by faculty/teachers. The number of Victim Deaths in Schools with at least one provision for Lawful carriage of a self defense firearm by faculty or teachers? 30... I used this for most of my data: It seems fairly comprehensive, but feel free to show me a better source. https://ballotpedia.org/United_States_school_shootings,_1990-present#School_shootings_by_region Google searches for most of the law part. I tried to give as much to the left as possible just so i can throw their own sources for in their face. i mostly used the Gifford site for the "guns in school" yes or no. i also painted any school that "allowed for individual authorization by the controlling school district/superintendent" as an affirmative for guns being present in schools by faculty.. just to remove absolutely any argument from the left claiming "your wrong, see!! they can have guns, look right here at this little tiny rule that never gets used!!" Please remember, this is ONLY k12 and under. these statistics do not include collage shootings. i wanted to keep it close the topic at hand. |
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I tried to google it looking for similar information, the numbers are all over the place. There seems to be no consistent count methods. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Just finished some quick research: Out of all of the States in the USA from 1990 to today, 11 States have had zero k12 and under mass school shootings... Of those 11, only 2 have zero provision for any lawful carriage of a firearm by faculty/teachers.. Out of all the States who have had mass shootings since 1990 in a k12 or lower school, 146 victims died in a school that had no provision for any lawful carriage of a self defense firearm by faculty/teachers. The number of Victim Deaths in Schools with at least one provision for Lawful carriage of a self defense firearm by faculty or teachers? 30... I used this for most of my data: It seems fairly comprehensive, but feel free to show me a better source. https://ballotpedia.org/United_States_school_shootings,_1990-present#School_shootings_by_region Google searches for most of the law part. I tried to give as much to the left as possible just so i can throw their own sources for in their face. i mostly used the Gifford site for the "guns in school" yes or no. i also painted any school that "allowed for individual authorization by the controlling school district/superintendent" as an affirmative for guns being present in schools by faculty.. just to remove absolutely any argument from the left claiming "your wrong, see!! they can have guns, look right here at this little tiny rule that never gets used!!" Please remember, this is ONLY k12 and under. these statistics do not include collage shootings. i wanted to keep it close the topic at hand. |
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As did i. I chose this sight because they actually describe the incidences that they record. they also seem to be very wide with their net as far as "mass school shootings" are concerned. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Just finished some quick research: Out of all of the States in the USA from 1990 to today, 11 States have had zero k12 and under mass school shootings... Of those 11, only 2 have zero provision for any lawful carriage of a firearm by faculty/teachers.. Out of all the States who have had mass shootings since 1990 in a k12 or lower school, 146 victims died in a school that had no provision for any lawful carriage of a self defense firearm by faculty/teachers. The number of Victim Deaths in Schools with at least one provision for Lawful carriage of a self defense firearm by faculty or teachers? 30... I used this for most of my data: It seems fairly comprehensive, but feel free to show me a better source. https://ballotpedia.org/United_States_school_shootings,_1990-present#School_shootings_by_region Google searches for most of the law part. I tried to give as much to the left as possible just so i can throw their own sources for in their face. i mostly used the Gifford site for the "guns in school" yes or no. i also painted any school that "allowed for individual authorization by the controlling school district/superintendent" as an affirmative for guns being present in schools by faculty.. just to remove absolutely any argument from the left claiming "your wrong, see!! they can have guns, look right here at this little tiny rule that never gets used!!" Please remember, this is ONLY k12 and under. these statistics do not include collage shootings. i wanted to keep it close the topic at hand. |
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A couple days ago I told my wife and boys that something wasn't right with his interviews. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Why do we allow this to be called "news" at all? |
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Who is writing these scripts? Why do we allow this to be called "news" at all? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Why do we allow this to be called "news" at all? Amateur YouTube interviews by non-video people don't look that jumbled. |
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Control the argument.
Respond in your post. It was not a shooting. It was an act of TERRORISM. |
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Control the argument.
Respond in your post. It was not a shooting. It was an act of TERRORISM. |
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/most-americans-say-trump-congress-not-doing-enough-to-stop-mass-shootings-post-abc-poll-finds/2018/02/19/3d0005dc-15af-11e8-92c9-376b4fe57ff7_story.html?utm_term=.051a9795c81d
More than 6 in 10 Americans fault Congress and President Trump for not doing enough to prevent mass shootings, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll, with most Americans continuing to say these incidents are more reflective of problems identifying and addressing mental health issues than inadequate gun laws. In the poll conducted after a gunman killed 17 people at a Florida high school last week, more than three-quarters, 77 percent, said they think more effective mental health screening and treatment could have prevented the shooting. The Post-ABC poll also finds that 58 percent of adults say stricter gun control laws could have prevented the shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, but there is no rise in support for banning assault weapons compared with two years ago and the partisan divide on this policy is as stark as ever. On the issue of whether allowing teachers to carry guns could have deterred the rampage, a proposal Education Secretary Betsy DeVos said is an option for schools, 42 percent said they agreed. |
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There has been a correlation between "absolute zero-tolerance policy on fighting" and "kid was bullied so much he committed suicide/went out in a blaze of glory." Most of these kids who've shot up schools have had a long history of being targeted by bullies and it's a bad recipe that keeps repeating: -Kid is "weird" to begin with, usually because of psychological problems. -Other kids pick on the weird kid. They always have and always will. -Weird kid gets depressed; hates life because school is a constant source of psychological torture for him. -Weird kid lashes out at home, parents take him to a shrink. -Shrink's answer is medication. Maybe it helps, maybe it makes the situation worse and removes the last semblance of empathy the kid has left. -Kid figures life is always going to be total shit and it's only a matter of time before something pushes him over the edge. Some kids get bullied and are able to deal with it. Anyone that already has some psychological problems (like psychopathic traits) won't be able to cope. It doesn't take a genius to see this kid displayed psychopathic traits. View Quote |
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A couple days ago I told my wife and boys that something wasn't right with his interviews. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Don't argue with me, argue with Col. Grossman. You know, the foremost expert on the subject in the world. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I wonder which video game inspired Andrew Kehoe. How many school massacres have there been since the violent murder simulator Grand Theft Auto V was released? Like 7? Let's include Sandy Hook (even though it was pre-GTAV) to make it an even 8 and assume that all of the attackers owned and were inspired by that one violent video game. With those assumptions in place, we can determine that Grand Theft Auto V has inspired .000009% of its purchasers to become school shooters. Ladies and gentlemen, we have our scapegoat! (the reality being, of course, that the majority of US households have at least one gamer, that shooters are incredibly popular and have been for decades, that school shootings and massacres have been around long before video games, and that you need to find something else to blame instead of thinking that correlation equals causation... gee, the school shooter played video games? No shit, so does every other kid) |
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Ah yes, Col. Flawed Research. An expert on the level of Jack Thompson. I wonder which video game inspired Andrew Kehoe. How many school massacres have there been since the violent murder simulator Grand Theft Auto V was released? Like 7? Let's include Sandy Hook (even though it was pre-GTAV) to make it an even 8 and assume that all of the attackers owned and were inspired by that one violent video game. With those assumptions in place, we can determine that Grand Theft Auto V has inspired .000009% of its purchasers to become school shooters. Ladies and gentlemen, we have our scapegoat! (the reality being, of course, that the majority of US households have at least one gamer, that shooters are incredibly popular and have been for decades, that school shootings and massacres have been around long before video games, and that you need to find something else to blame instead of thinking that correlation equals causation... gee, the school shooter played video games? No shit, so does every other kid) View Quote Why focus on one game, what about the Call of Duty series or the others of similar genre. All focus on shooting the " enemy ". As you said, they have been around for a decade or two and have become more graphic and detailed with each new release. Why so defensive? |
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Students stage 'lie-in' protest outside the White House over gun laws in the wake of the Florida high shooting massacre. http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/02/19/18/4962743500000578-5409853-image-m-110_1519065187366.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/02/19/19/4962935A00000578-5409853-image-a-133_1519067006916.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/02/19/19/49629ACF00000578-5409853-image-a-134_1519067036621.jpg However, they are our future and if they don't grow out of this "progressive" stage so many people are born into, we be in trouble. |
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Why focus on one game, what about the Call of Duty series or the others of similar genre. All focus on shooting the " enemy ". As you said, they have been around for a decade or two and have become more graphic and detailed with each new release. View Quote I assume there were a bunch of teens shooting up reservations in the 50's/60's? |
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Quit being dense and read what I wrote. It is not one thing in isolation, it is the combination of those things in aggregate in some people, who also have most of those other factors in common. I understand that you don't know much about this subject but yes, those FPS " games " were in fact originally developed as simulators for military use. Now, does that imply every or even most fantasists are going to go off the deep end, no, it does not. Neither are most AR owners, but taken in combination with the other factors cited and your probability for going off increases dramatically. Why focus on one game, what about the Call of Duty series or the others of similar genre. All focus on shooting the " enemy ". As you said, they have been around for a decade or two and have become more graphic and detailed with each new release. Why so defensive? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Ah yes, Col. Flawed Research. An expert on the level of Jack Thompson. I wonder which video game inspired Andrew Kehoe. How many school massacres have there been since the violent murder simulator Grand Theft Auto V was released? Like 7? Let's include Sandy Hook (even though it was pre-GTAV) to make it an even 8 and assume that all of the attackers owned and were inspired by that one violent video game. With those assumptions in place, we can determine that Grand Theft Auto V has inspired .000009% of its purchasers to become school shooters. Ladies and gentlemen, we have our scapegoat! (the reality being, of course, that the majority of US households have at least one gamer, that shooters are incredibly popular and have been for decades, that school shootings and massacres have been around long before video games, and that you need to find something else to blame instead of thinking that correlation equals causation... gee, the school shooter played video games? No shit, so does every other kid) Why focus on one game, what about the Call of Duty series or the others of similar genre. All focus on shooting the " enemy ". As you said, they have been around for a decade or two and have become more graphic and detailed with each new release. Why so defensive? 2. Multiple studies have debunked your assertion that video games cause violence, no matter your feelz. 3. I focused on one game to make a point (quit being dense?). Would you prefer that I add together the sales of ALL violent video games and then show you the even more miniscule percentage of school shooters that they could have possibly inspired? 4. Would you prefer the focus be on shooting at allies? 5. You say I don't know much about this subject and then claim that shooters have been around for "a decade or two" (GTAV is a third person shooter BTW) 6. We all know you're a sucker for moral panics. Just the simple percentage of gamers who end up being school shooters is enough to make it obvious that they're not a factor. Even so, I'd like to see your data sets and how you came to your conclusion. |
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Quoted: Don't argue with me, argue with Col. Grossman. You know, the foremost expert on the subject in the world.ha View Quote Nothing but sour grapes. |
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Just the simple percentage of gamers who end up being school shooters is enough to make it obvious that they're not a factor. Even so, I'd like to see your data sets and how you came to your conclusion. View Quote |
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Quoted: Add in the FPS video games and you've pretty much covered it. I'm not blaming the games per se, it's the games which were initially designed to desensitize soldiers to killing, in combination with the above that seems to complete the formula. The weird you describe is also called creepy. Ask any girl and that is how they will define the killer. The creepy meter will peg off the scale in each and every one of them. View Quote |
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Control the argument. Respond in your post. It was not a shooting. It was an act of TERRORISM. ter·ror·ism
'ter??riz?m/Submit noun the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims |
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Precisely. It was wanton violence. Not terrorism. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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It does seem that way. Just wanted to eliminate confusion. Although if he had a manifesto saying his intentions were different then it could shift to terrorism. View Quote If he was just a bastard that wanted to kill people, no terrorism. Calling things by the proper name is important. |
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From another thread in GD about the post-event shennanigans. Do you believe in coincidences?
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Kids don’t typically have goatees.
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According To The FBI, Knives Kill Far More People Than Rifles In America – It’s Not Even Close http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/19/knives-gun-control-fbi-statistics/ View Quote |
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From another thread in GD about the post-event shennanigans. Do you believe in coincidences? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/157935/DB98B576-E7F3-44D4-A501-CF43AF39A88B-458332.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/157935/FE214EC4-5BC2-4DAE-AE4F-CF7C2983F499-458333.JPG View Quote |
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Anyone talking about the jrotc cadet who was killed getting a military burial? I think there was something on Reddit about it. His funeral is today.
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From another thread in GD about the post-event shennanigans. Do you believe in coincidences? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/157935/DB98B576-E7F3-44D4-A501-CF43AF39A88B-458332.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/157935/FE214EC4-5BC2-4DAE-AE4F-CF7C2983F499-458333.JPG |
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That idiot kept team killing and falling off ledges in Unreal Tournament. I have no respect for him and he was always banned from our servers. Nothing but sour grapes. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Anyone talking about the jrotc cadet who was killed getting a military burial? I think there was something on Reddit about it. His funeral is today. View Quote God Bless that young man, and may he grant him eternal peace and life, in our hearts. For we are diminished greatly with his loss. |
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I think a big question needs to be asked. Why are these mass killers that do live, are tried, convicted of murder, not executed in a timely manner? Why does our society stand for that? Before we ever look at taking rights away from society that has done no harm we should look at modifying laws to speed up the process to execute these types of killers. If the federal and state constitutions need to be more clearly worded that capital punishment is not cruel and unusual punishment, then so be it. Americans need to work together so that these monsters don't get to have a show for 20 years or life.
Those who say capital punishment is more expensive than life in prison, yeah it is the way it is done today in America. It wasn't the way it used to be done in this country because death penalty sure was cheaper at one time than life in prison. These type of criminals who are beyond a shadow of a doubt guilty should get their trial and upon conviction maybe sit on death row at most a year with a couple appeals and then be hanged. No need in making execution complicated. It worked just fine for the Japanese and German war criminals in the 1940's and it would work just fine for these mass killers too. |
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