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Posted: 5/19/2024 12:21:13 PM EDT
I have probably seen new tractors being transported like that hundreds of times but never took a closer look until I walked past this one parked at the hotel we stayed at.
 Attached FileWhat is the wood blocking around the hit h plate for? Do those have that much range of motion that needs to be isolated?  Attached FileLooks like the forward wood beam has the front tandem axle chained up.  Attached FileI assume that they remove the axle shafts from the rear tandem axles and install a cover on the hub.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/19/2024 12:23:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Admiral_Crunch]
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Posted: 5/19/2024 12:25:12 PM EDT
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so the plate doesnt tilt....
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GA, USA
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Posted: 5/19/2024 12:25:24 PM EDT
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They piggy back all new trucks like that. One driver to deliver 3 new trucks.
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Posted: 5/19/2024 12:25:34 PM EDT
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Not saying the real professionals don't know what they are doing - some of the pros are indeed solid and heavy on safety and loss prevention.
But that said, I would get as far away from that as possible on the road.  |
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Posted: 5/19/2024 12:26:50 PM EDT
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Must be hell to back up.
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Posted: 5/19/2024 12:27:22 PM EDT
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Dude the fucking pull truck is squatting lol
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Posted: 5/19/2024 12:28:32 PM EDT
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Also, why pull the axles? Put that shit in neutral and send it.
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Posted: 5/19/2024 12:34:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Into_the_Void: Dude the fucking pull truck is squatting lol |
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Posted: 5/19/2024 12:37:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Seabee_Mech]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Into_the_Void: Also, why pull the axles? Put that shit in neutral and send it. ETA: I'm guessing the small 2"x4"s on the axle are safeties for the jaws clamped to the front axle, the other blocking is to keep the 5th wheel plate from tilting. You see those rigs moving quite often but I never paid that much attention to how they're hooked up. |
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Posted: 5/19/2024 1:05:40 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/19/2024 1:09:55 PM EDT
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Truck Boat Truck is far superior.
THE BOAT IS MINE!!!  |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 5/19/2024 2:19:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: M4BlackRifle]
[#12]
Jaime-Roberto (Jim-Bob for the slow kids) is probably hauling that load to Mexico.
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CO, USA
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Posted: 5/19/2024 2:27:02 PM EDT
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I've always wondered about those tow setups also. Can the air brakes be plumbed such that the lead tractor can control braking on each rear axle of the other two?
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Posted: 5/19/2024 2:29:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ED_P]
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Those tires have so much tread on them. Most trucks I see in parking lots are running on really sketchy tires with very little tread, especially trailer tires.
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SC, USA
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Posted: 5/19/2024 2:41:07 PM EDT
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Probably pulled the axles to keep the transmissions from turning. Isn't all the gear oil in the tailshaft at that angle?
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Posted: 5/19/2024 2:44:21 PM EDT
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You pull the axles so you don't burn up the transmission in the truck that has the engine off... No oil flow in that transmission
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Posted: 5/19/2024 2:56:07 PM EDT
[#17]
Saw that exact same thing as OP this past week except they were moving down the interstate.
That may be "the way it's done" but it still looks sketch as heck. I got past the ones I saw lickitty split. |
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Posted: 5/19/2024 2:57:26 PM EDT
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looks like the messican tow trains of cars in georgia.
where’s phuzzygnu ?! |
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Posted: 5/19/2024 2:59:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Barrelburner: You pull the axles so you don't burn up the transmission in the truck that has the engine off... No oil flow in that transmission Makes sense I forgot that they're all automatics now |
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Posted: 5/19/2024 3:01:48 PM EDT
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Do they lift the trucks onto the other trucks with a crane?
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Posted: 5/19/2024 3:09:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1975: Do they lift the trucks onto the other trucks with a crane? This is what I wanna know. I thought maybe they had ramps tied on the back decks somehow. |
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Posted: 5/19/2024 3:23:44 PM EDT
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This is what it always reminds me of.
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Posted: 5/19/2024 3:34:47 PM EDT
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They lock the plate because there is a pivot point on the bracket under the axle. You don't want two pivot points or it'll be really sloppy. Chain the front tandem up so you only have to pull shafts on the rear one.
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Posted: 5/19/2024 3:36:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: paul463]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Into_the_Void: Also, why pull the axles? Put that shit in neutral and send it. That's a really ($$$$) bad idea. Here's why... https://youtube.com/shorts/op4Mzhk2ZZg?si=rHL1CHRI3f2r0V_q |
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Posted: 5/20/2024 1:15:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Boomer]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cpt_Kirks: Truck Boat Truck is far superior. THE BOAT IS MINE!!! https://i.redd.it/do-not-touch-the-trim-v0-c7thxmpuuwyb1.jpg?width=1110&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9434ed09577d3d8cd375d35940dec242214c8297 You laugh, but in states where triple trailers are legal, I have some non-commercial people doing some really janky stuff with pickups, RVs, boat trailers, SxS trailers, etc. I swear Utah is the worst. |
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Posted: 5/20/2024 1:48:54 PM EDT
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2,1,3
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Posted: 5/20/2024 3:32:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Into_the_Void: Makes sense I forgot that they're all automatics now Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Into_the_Void: Originally Posted By Barrelburner: You pull the axles so you don't burn up the transmission in the truck that has the engine off... No oil flow in that transmission Makes sense I forgot that they're all automatics now Applies to manuals too. |
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Posted: 5/20/2024 9:36:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JackRebney: Applies to manuals too. |
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Posted: 5/20/2024 11:11:30 PM EDT
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Simpsons predicted this.
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Posted: 5/20/2024 11:16:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brawndo: 2,1,3 2,3,1. I really like the extra room in the Studio Sleeper 
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Posted: 5/20/2024 11:50:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Barrelburner: You pull the axles so you don't burn up the transmission in the truck that has the engine off... No oil flow in that transmission Pulling the axles is good but-Tow it on the rear wheels an appreciable distance you run the risk of smoking wheel bearings, hubs and axle snouts. You are better off pulling the driveshafts- many H-D differentials have an oil pump in them to circulate oil to the bearings and axles. If the carrier/pinion isn’t rotating oil is not circulating. Towing biggins isn’t as simple as “hook it n book it” |
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Posted: 5/20/2024 11:55:51 PM EDT
[#32]
I see this all the time.
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Posted: 5/21/2024 12:50:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Dragracer]
[#33]
I bet that turns great with the 5th wheel locked at that nasty angle. I don't know why they don't make the front axle clamp / Kingpin at roughly the correct angle so the 5th wheel is sitting level, then allow the 5th wheel pivot to do it's job, instead of forcing a twist into the frame of the towed truck when making a turn. I suppose the front axle of the towed truck can tilt enough to allow the terrible geometry.
People get away with a lot then wonder why the kingpin is all broken up in their trailer. ETA: I see the bracket is locked to the 5th wheel so it can't turn and give it that broke in look and there is a second pivot pivot above that allows for turning, but it doesn't appear the angle is improved on that one either. |
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Posted: 5/21/2024 2:45:47 AM EDT
[#34]
Wrecker drivers like to tow single truck tractors from the rear (backwards, with just the steer tires on the ground) so they don't have to drop the drive shaft.
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USA
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Posted: 5/21/2024 2:58:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Mah_lee]
[#35]
euro minds absolutely thrashed by this thread
edit: also  i need a truck -Warren Zevon |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 5/21/2024 7:14:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By APBullet: Must be hell to back up. You don't back up. |
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Posted: 5/21/2024 7:30:04 AM EDT
[Last Edit: hockeysew]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Barrelburner: Wrecker drivers like to tow single truck tractors from the rear (backwards, with just the steer tires on the ground) so they don't have to drop the drive shaft. I my experience (12 years in the towing business) it’s generally not very practical to do so. Due to size you cant just turn around in the middle of the highway and snag it from the rear. You also have air deflectors and wind dams to consider. If your doing a power swap it makes no sense (a power swap is when a tractor dies with a load and you tow out a fresh tractor and tow the dead one back) Locking the front wheels is not like it is on a passenger vehicle where you use a tie rope, seat belts and similar. One of the biggest factors though is steer axles just aren’t designed to take the amount of weight towing from the rear puts on them. Like I said in my earlier post H-D trucks are a different critter to tow. |
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Posted: 5/21/2024 8:37:45 AM EDT
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Actually OP the front truck isn't towing, the rear truck is pushing. The driver has better visibility that way and it's easier to back up.
Also, you can charter the sleepers kind of like a cabin on an old tramp steamer, just ride the highways. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 5/21/2024 9:12:32 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/21/2024 9:22:32 AM EDT
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I saw a car towing 2 other vehicles on the expressway last week , while I was heading to Florida. Then another car towing package that was the same. All with drive out tags. 65 south, out 0f Montgomery, surely heading to Texas. I wouldn’t think that’s to safe, but Alabama State let’em ride, so I guess their all bueno.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/21/2024 9:24:55 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Pallas]
[#41]
That's nothing, it looks professional. If you are on the Interstate often enough, especially in Texas, you'll see a pick up truck towing a pick up truck towing a pick up truck back to old Mexico... Sometimes a suburban.
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Posted: 5/21/2024 10:20:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1245xx: I saw a car towing 2 other vehicles on the expressway last week , while I was heading to Florida. Then another car towing package that was the same. All with drive out tags. 65 south, out 0f Montgomery, surely heading to Texas. I wouldn't think that's to safe, but Alabama State let'em ride, so I guess their all bueno. 
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/21/2024 10:37:13 AM EDT
[#43]
Menage a truck
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Posted: 5/21/2024 10:41:51 AM EDT
[#44]
Pretty common since there's a Paccar plant here.
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WI, USA
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Posted: 5/21/2024 10:56:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Powelligator: I've always wondered about those tow setups also. Can the air brakes be plumbed such that the lead tractor can control braking on each rear axle of the other two? Yes. On city buses, we had quick-coupler connections for "shop air" to keep them aired up in the shop, and "tow air" to work the brakes while towing. |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 5/21/2024 10:58:09 AM EDT
[Last Edit: diesel1]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Into_the_Void: Makes sense I forgot that they're all automatics now Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Into_the_Void: Originally Posted By Barrelburner: You pull the axles so you don't burn up the transmission in the truck that has the engine off... No oil flow in that transmission Makes sense I forgot that they're all automatics now No. Automated manual transmissions on some, still conventional manual trans on others. ETA: Actual "automatics", while rare in heavy trucks, are somewhat more common in medium-duty trucks. |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 5/21/2024 10:59:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1975: Do they lift the trucks onto the other trucks with a crane? Truck dealer will have a gantry crane or call a towing company to bring in an HD wrecker to lift them off. |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 5/21/2024 11:29:34 AM EDT
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OP's pics reminded me of a Kenosha WI businessman who operated at new truck transport company. Among other shady dealings, he "persuaded" the DOT to allow an increase in the number of trucks in tow, thereby significantly increasing his revenue per trip. I met a retired truck driver in Kenosha who worked for the company, and he confirmed what I had read in the newspapers years earlier.
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Posted: 5/21/2024 11:53:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: paul463]
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Dropping a shaft as we speak.
 Attached File Attached FileWaiting on the boss to bring me a tool  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/21/2024 12:01:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Seabee_Mech:
Those are wrecks sold at auction, all headed to Mexico. They put the best running one in front, the other two POS cars "In Tow" and send it. The drivers have questionable documentation/insurance but generally the police won't mess with them as long as they are still moving down the road. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/119852/In_Tow-3219878.jpg |
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