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Posted: 9/11/2021 9:48:38 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/11/2021 10:06:35 AM EDT by saigamanTX]
Our day to day problems are nothing when you look at this picture and realize a lot of those folks had a choice to make...And either of those choices were most likely resulting in death.

Taken after the planes hit.

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Link Posted: 9/11/2021 9:50:21 AM EDT
Did those windows open or did those poor souls have to break them out? Either way, tough decision.
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 9:53:33 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ahnglw:
Did those windows open or did those poor souls have to break them out? Either way, tough decision.
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Those windows don’t open and they’re very difficult to break out.  Either they broke when the planes crashed into the buildings or those people were so desperate that they broke them out themselves.
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 10:06:49 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By jollyg83:



Those windows don't open and they're very difficult to break out.  Either they broke when the planes crashed into the buildings or those people were so desperate that they broke them out themselves.
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Link Posted: 9/11/2021 10:10:09 AM EDT
Remember those people. They jumped because they wanted to live a few seconds longer.
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 10:18:16 AM EDT
Pics say a 1000 words, but go listen to the Kevin Cosgrove phone call to 911. It'll break your fuckin heart.

Link Posted: 9/11/2021 10:19:38 AM EDT
And now our government is flying them into our country unvetted.  9/11/2001 was just the start of what is coming.
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 10:19:54 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 6SJ7GT:
Remember those people. They jumped because they wanted to live a few seconds longer.
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Or die faster.

In case one misinterprets that, if you are faced with the thought of burning alive, suffocating in smoke, being crushed and trapped in rubble alive & suffering for days, the option for a quick end to it all looks like the best alternative.

May they rest in peace
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 10:26:38 AM EDT
The jumpers and the passengers on flight 93....it gets real damned dusty when I see things about them.

They both knew their fate, and made tough decisions.

The flight 93 passengers make me proud to be American.  Damned proud.
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 10:26:40 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By CS223:
Or die faster.

In case one misinterprets that, if you are faced with the thought of burning alive, suffocating in smoke, being crushed and trapped in rubble alive & suffering for days, the option for a quick end to it all looks like the best alternative.

May they rest in peace
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For all I know, the air inside the building was scalding hot.  That kind of pain would drive anyone out an opening, even if it was certain death.  I can't imagine those last moments.  

Link Posted: 9/11/2021 10:31:54 AM EDT
The trapped people that day, that’s what bothers me the most. Choosing to jump.

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Link Posted: 9/11/2021 10:34:12 AM EDT
I cannot even imagine.......



Link Posted: 9/11/2021 10:36:04 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Old_Fashioned:
The trapped people that day, that’s what bothers me the most. Choosing to jump.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/113283/E80C985E-4290-458E-BD00-1A2D77EDC586_jpe-2086391.JPG
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That's the one I'll never forget.
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 10:40:28 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Old_Fashioned:
The trapped people that day, that’s what bothers me the most. Choosing to jump.

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Has it ever been identified who this was?  Or is he the "unknown falling man"?

Nevermind - looked it up...

falling man
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 10:46:25 AM EDT
There have been several good articles over the years about who they think he was.  I believe the conclusion was one of the workers at windows on the world.  I read several of them when they came out.  I believe one of the families was very upset because, being very catholic, the idea their loved one “committed suicide” (quotes because I don’t believe that is what this was) was very concerning to them.

My Google fu is weak today. Intentionally.  But the articles are out there if you’re interested.  


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Has it ever been identified who this was?  Or is he the "unknown falling man"?
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Originally Posted By Old_Fashioned:
The trapped people that day, that’s what bothers me the most. Choosing to jump.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/113283/E80C985E-4290-458E-BD00-1A2D77EDC586_jpe-2086391.JPG


Has it ever been identified who this was?  Or is he the "unknown falling man"?

Link Posted: 9/11/2021 10:51:47 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Old_Fashioned:
The trapped people that day, that’s what bothers me the most. Choosing to jump.

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Burning, choking on smoke or jumping.  Not much of a choice.
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Link Posted: 9/11/2021 10:57:20 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By xd341:
The flight 93 passengers make me proud to be American.  Damned proud.
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People often forget they were the first to fight back and draw blood, not the SF guys who went into Afghanistan.
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Link Posted: 9/11/2021 11:16:27 AM EDT
I never knew there was a video of the first plane that hit, not till years later.
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 11:30:51 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/11/2021 11:31:34 AM EDT by GunsAndGrills]
Out of curiosity I went to Google’s homepage and all they have is a tiny American flag with a black ribbon over it and the words “Remembering September 11th” if you hover over it and you can’t even click on it. Pathetic.
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 11:32:07 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Weasel1201:


People often forget they were the first to fight back and draw blood, not the SF guys who went into Afghanistan.

Originally Posted By Old_Painless:


"The era of Osama lasted about one hour.  From the time the first plane hit the first building until the General Militia of Flight 93 reported for duty."



Yep. They weren't SF, they were just average Americans.   They knew what was up, and they knew the likely outcome.   Chose to go down fighting in the chance that it might cause less death even if they didn't save themselves.


Link Posted: 9/11/2021 11:33:49 AM EDT
Burn to death fall to death probably would choose falling.
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 1:08:26 PM EDT
I can’t fathom the hopelessness that could cause a sane person to jump to their death. Burn to death or jump to your death is a hell of a choice. God rest their souls.
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 1:12:45 PM EDT


You have to shudder to think which horror she is reacting to.
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 1:20:48 PM EDT
Sad part is important details like these are being digitally removed from record. Lame reason given is that it's too graphic. Soon, kids will simply learn that something happened to some people that day.
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 1:57:45 PM EDT
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The History Channel used to air a 9/11 special that had no music or narration, just the sights and sounds from videos that people recorded on that day. One of those videos was taken through the window of an apartment shared by two women. One of them wondered aloud why furniture was being thrown from the windows of the twin towers.  A moment later, they realize that it is people jumping from the windows, not furniture being thrown, and they start screaming.
That scene has always stuck in my mind.
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 2:12:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By GunsAndGrills:
Out of curiosity I went to Google’s homepage and all they have is a tiny American flag with a black ribbon over it and the words “Remembering September 11th” if you hover over it and you can’t even click on it. Pathetic.
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They do it everytime.

There should be a montage of all the times Google has fluffed over meaningful holidays/remembrances and outright pandered to all sorts of stupid shit.

Bing has the background of the day (as usual)
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 2:22:49 PM EDT
That would be a very tough choice to make.
I would just stand up and take as many deep breaths as I could before I passed  out, no way in hell I'm jumping.
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 2:25:40 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 2:48:26 PM EDT
These are pictures of the monument that is in front of my old company.
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Link Posted: 9/11/2021 2:53:40 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/11/2021 2:55:55 PM EDT
In b4 one of our little tyrant mods locks this thread with system message “let’s not today”
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 3:14:43 PM EDT
Grab them and save for the future before they are memory holed.

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Originally Posted By GunsAndGrills:
Out of curiosity I went to Google’s homepage and all they have is a tiny American flag with a black ribbon over it and the words “Remembering September 11th” if you hover over it and you can’t even click on it. Pathetic.
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Tomorrow there will be a complex rainbow colored doodle celebrating Adamitra Ikunawale Mbutumbo's 439th birthday, the trans lesbian African tribeswoman who lined three rocks up in the dirt, counted to three, and thus INTRODUCED MATHEMATICS TO THE AFRICAN CONTINENT.

Or some stupid shit like that.
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 4:13:09 PM EDT
For me this one always hits hard.

FDNY Ladder 118 crossing over the Brooklyn Bridge on their way to the World Trade Center. This is their last known photo. Every single firefighter on that truck perished just a few minutes later.

Lt. Robert M. Regan, 48
Joseph Agnello, 35
Vernon Paul Cherry, 49
Scott Matthew Davidson, 33
Leon Smith, Jr., 48
Peter Anthony Vega, 36



I'm in Belgium, main news websites all ran series of articles all week culminating today in it being the headline story. I'm quite suprised, also my social media accounts are blowing up with pictures, memorial video's, people talking about where they were etc.

Never forget.
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 5:21:42 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/11/2021 5:24:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Too-Tall:
For me this one always hits hard.

FDNY Ladder 118 crossing over the Brooklyn Bridge on their way to the World Trade Center. This is their last known photo. Every single firefighter on that truck perished just a few minutes later.

Lt. Robert M. Regan, 48
Joseph Agnello, 35
Vernon Paul Cherry, 49
Scott Matthew Davidson, 33
Leon Smith, Jr., 48
Peter Anthony Vega, 36

https://i.ibb.co/b5wBZV5/241674862-10158483811626051-4811133160716151090-n.jpg

I'm in Belgium, main news websites all ran series of articles all week culminating today in it being the headline story. I'm quite suprised, also my social media accounts are blowing up with pictures, memorial video's, people talking about where they were etc.

Never forget.
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Mall of America actually has a memorial to Burnett. it's supposed to be a representation of a cockpit door.



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Fragments of people in the building and passengers in the jet after it went through the building

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Link Posted: 9/11/2021 5:39:12 PM EDT
Fuck this is really making my hatred for Muslims come to a peak. Like blood boiling stomach turning wanna rampage against them hatred
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 5:40:36 PM EDT
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At least she was drinking beer at 0900…..

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Link Posted: 9/11/2021 5:44:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By xd341:
The jumpers and the passengers on flight 93....it gets real damned dusty when I see things about them.

They both knew their fate, and made tough decisions.

The flight 93 passengers make me proud to be American.  Damned proud.
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This, the passengers of flight 93 were the best America had to offer, true Americans.
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 5:45:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By xd341:



Yep. They weren't SF, they were just average Americans.   They knew what was up, and they knew the likely outcome.   Chose to go down fighting in the chance that it might cause less death even if they didn't save themselves.


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Originally Posted By Weasel1201:


People often forget they were the first to fight back and draw blood, not the SF guys who went into Afghanistan.

Originally Posted By Old_Painless:


"The era of Osama lasted about one hour.  From the time the first plane hit the first building until the General Militia of Flight 93 reported for duty."



Yep. They weren't SF, they were just average Americans.   They knew what was up, and they knew the likely outcome.   Chose to go down fighting in the chance that it might cause less death even if they didn't save themselves.




"Are you ready? Okay. Let's roll.”

Link Posted: 9/11/2021 6:28:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By xd341:
Yep. They weren't SF, they were just average Americans.   They knew what was up, and they knew the likely outcome.   Chose to go down fighting in the chance that it might cause less death even if they didn't save themselves.


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Beamer, Glick, Burnett, and Bingham were not exactly average. They were all athletes, leaders, and entrepreneurs. And of course, men.
Link Posted: 9/11/2021 6:32:18 PM EDT
20 years later, it's like it never happened.

The country is more oppressed,  more fucked, more socialist, more everything negative towards liberty and freedom.

50% of the populace welcomes all of it.

Fucked, we are.

Link Posted: 9/11/2021 6:42:15 PM EDT
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Dana (age 3) and Zoe (age 8) Falkenberg. Flight 77. I've posted a photo like this just about every year for the last 20 in whatever September 11 thread comes along.

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