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Posted: 2/22/2021 11:00:46 PM EDT
[#1]
Me likey
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Posted: 2/22/2021 11:02:27 PM EDT
[#2]
Well?
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Posted: 2/22/2021 11:06:40 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well? It will probably get test fired on Friday |
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Posted: 2/22/2021 11:13:05 PM EDT
[#4]
The thought of such a rifle makes me moist.
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Posted: 2/22/2021 11:13:24 PM EDT
[#5]
Pictures of Safari Garand?
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Posted: 2/22/2021 11:14:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It will probably get test fired on Friday Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Well? It will probably get test fired on Friday That's a long time to wait, but I will. |
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Posted: 2/22/2021 11:30:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It will probably get test fired on Friday I don't want to wait that long! 
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Posted: 2/22/2021 11:43:08 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/22/2021 11:48:56 PM EDT
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Quoted: The rifle would prematurely eject the clip after three or four shots. They have topical cream for that now. So I am told.
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Posted: 2/23/2021 12:02:40 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/23/2021 12:07:16 AM EDT
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I do want one of those! I have little need for such wretched engineering excess, but I really want one!
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Posted: 2/23/2021 12:08:09 AM EDT
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I was looking the pictures thinking I wonder how many Garands fluffy has.
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Posted: 2/23/2021 12:23:00 AM EDT
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Fluffy, would anything other than a different barrel be needed to make a .35 Whelen Garand?
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Posted: 2/23/2021 12:27:25 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/23/2021 12:29:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fluffy, would anything other than a different barrel be needed to make a .35 Whelen Garand? It depends on how far you want to go. To get those fat rounds to feed you may need to thin the internal receiver ribs using tungsten carbide tooling |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 12:31:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryPics are not bad, props. However, still need pics of loaded ammo next to 5.56 and 308, and preferably something like a .375. And a list of bullet weight, english caliber, and fps. |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 12:34:23 AM EDT
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Could legit stop a charging gaggle of moose
I approve. |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 12:38:28 AM EDT
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 Sofa king |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 12:39:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pics are not bad, props. However, still need pics of loaded ammo next to 5.56 and 308, and preferably something like a .375. And a list of bullet weight, english caliber, and fps.  Here are the thinned receiver ribs  9.3mm bullet next to a .30-30 round. The 9.3x62=a 300 grain .366" diameter steel jacketed fmj bullet at 2300 fps. |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 12:42:51 AM EDT
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Delete.
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Posted: 2/23/2021 12:45:34 AM EDT
[#21]
Garlands are so damned good looking.
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Posted: 2/23/2021 12:56:39 AM EDT
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That's like pig and bear magic.
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Posted: 2/23/2021 1:22:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Garlands are so damned good looking. That's why they're so popular with the ladies  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 1:26:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's why they're so popular with the ladies https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/269389/il_794xN_1742571122_8mws_jpg-1837670.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Garlands are so damned good looking. That's why they're so popular with the ladies https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/269389/il_794xN_1742571122_8mws_jpg-1837670.JPG 
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Posted: 2/23/2021 1:42:07 AM EDT
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I want a regular M1 Garand but you sir are inspirational for a man that likes both SA rifles and safari calibers. 9.3 is rather high up on my list for a full stock rifle. To think a man is making it work in an auto is rather neat indeed.
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Posted: 2/23/2021 1:48:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They have topical cream for that now. So I am told. 
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Posted: 2/23/2021 1:58:57 AM EDT
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I've nothing to add, except that this is awesome.
There used to be a shop somewhat close to me that did big bore M1 builds, but I believe they closed years ago (mccann industries, or something like that, iirc) Also, I've had the chance to speak with John Holbrook several times back before the gunshows here got lame. He was an interesting guy. |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 2:31:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The thought of such a rifle makes me moist. |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 3:58:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fluffy, would anything other than a different barrel be needed to make a .35 Whelen Garand? Here's the modified 9.3 receiver. The internal receiver ribs were modified. They were thinned using tungsten carbide tooling. Unless you thin the receiver ribs, you can only hold perhaps three 9.3 or .35 Whelen rounds because the bullet noses get jammed against the receiver ribs. The original M1 was designed for the .276 Pedersen and it really shows when you attempt to adapt the rifle to larger calibers. Those ribs were designed for a 7mm rifle and while .30 caliber will work, once you go beyond .30 caliber, you run out of room for the bullets noses. Here's a clip of 8 rounds of 9.3 ammo. As you can see, it is a tight fit and unless you thin those internal ribs, you cannot fit a full 8 round clip.  |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 4:10:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Here's the modified 9.3 receiver. The internal receiver ribs were modified. They were thinned using tungsten carbide tooling. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/234818/20190227_150317-1837628.jpg Unless you thin the receiver ribs, you can only hold perhaps three 9.3 or .35 Whelen rounds because the bullet noses get jammed against the receiver ribs. The original M1 was designed for the .276 Pedersen and it really shows when you attempt to adapt the rifle to larger calibers. Those ribs were designed for a 7mm rifle and while .30 caliber will work, once you go beyond .30 caliber, you run out of room for the bullets noses. Here's a clip of 8 rounds of 9.3 ammo. As you can see, it is a tight fit and unless you thin those internal ribs, you cannot fit a full 8 round clip. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/234818/20190227_150114-1837719.jpg I have only fired the 9.3 Garand once and I difficulty latching a full 8 round clip into the magazine. I suspect that the extra weight of the cartridges has something to do with this. As you know, the operating rod spring also provides tension for the follower assembly. And with the 9.3 Garand somehow there appeared to be too much follower tension. I think I am going to experiment a little with different operating rod springs and see what happens. |
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Posted: 2/27/2021 6:53:17 AM EDT
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Test fire taking place later today
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Posted: 2/27/2021 7:00:41 AM EDT
[#32]
John is rolling over in his grave... what an insult to his legacy
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Posted: 2/27/2021 7:06:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Here's the modified 9.3 receiver. The internal receiver ribs were modified. They were thinned using tungsten carbide tooling. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/234818/20190227_150317-1837628.jpg Unless you thin the receiver ribs, you can only hold perhaps three 9.3 or .35 Whelen rounds because the bullet noses get jammed against the receiver ribs. The original M1 was designed for the .276 Pedersen and it really shows when you attempt to adapt the rifle to larger calibers. Those ribs were designed for a 7mm rifle and while .30 caliber will work, once you go beyond .30 caliber, you run out of room for the bullets noses. Here's a clip of 8 rounds of 9.3 ammo. As you can see, it is a tight fit and unless you thin those internal ribs, you cannot fit a full 8 round clip. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/234818/20190227_150114-1837719.jpg I wonder why they kept it at ".276 Pedersen" widths??? |
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Posted: 2/27/2021 7:06:40 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/27/2021 7:37:41 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder why they kept it at ".276 Pedersen" widths??? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Here's the modified 9.3 receiver. The internal receiver ribs were modified. They were thinned using tungsten carbide tooling. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/234818/20190227_150317-1837628.jpg Unless you thin the receiver ribs, you can only hold perhaps three 9.3 or .35 Whelen rounds because the bullet noses get jammed against the receiver ribs. The original M1 was designed for the .276 Pedersen and it really shows when you attempt to adapt the rifle to larger calibers. Those ribs were designed for a 7mm rifle and while .30 caliber will work, once you go beyond .30 caliber, you run out of room for the bullets noses. Here's a clip of 8 rounds of 9.3 ammo. As you can see, it is a tight fit and unless you thin those internal ribs, you cannot fit a full 8 round clip. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/234818/20190227_150114-1837719.jpg I wonder why they kept it at ".276 Pedersen" widths??? Because it will still work once you increase the bullet diameter by 24 thousandths of an inch. But once the bullet diameter is increased beyond .30 caliber, everything gets cramped. |
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Posted: 2/27/2021 7:45:40 AM EDT
[#36]
Something else to report:
I fired the 9.3 Garand in early 2019 and I put only about 30 rounds through it. I decided to inspect the rifle before taking it out today and I was shocked to see green copper fouling at the muzzle. I ran some Wipe Out through the bore and the patches came out solidly blue. Patch after patch came out that way. It's clean now, but I've never seen so much copper fouling. Anyway, its clean now. |
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Posted: 2/27/2021 7:53:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because it will still work once you increase the bullet diameter by 24 thousandths of an inch. But once the bullet diameter is increased beyond .30 caliber, everything gets cramped. I guess the tooling was already in place and changing it would have been a waste of time since it worked either way. |
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Posted: 2/27/2021 7:54:31 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Something else to report: I fired the 9.3 Garand in early 2019 and I put only about 30 rounds through it. I decided to inspect the rifle before taking it out today and I was shocked to see green copper fouling at the muzzle. I ran some Wipe Out through the bore and the patches came out solidly blue. Patch after patch came out that way. It's clean now, but I've never seen so much copper fouling. Anyway, its clean now. At the muzzle??? Is that a typo??? |
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Posted: 2/27/2021 7:58:36 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: At the muzzle??? Is that a typo??? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Something else to report: I fired the 9.3 Garand in early 2019 and I put only about 30 rounds through it. I decided to inspect the rifle before taking it out today and I was shocked to see green copper fouling at the muzzle. I ran some Wipe Out through the bore and the patches came out solidly blue. Patch after patch came out that way. It's clean now, but I've never seen so much copper fouling. Anyway, its clean now. At the muzzle??? Is that a typo??? Not a typo. You could see green fouling at the muzzle. It looked like green copper roof on the Chateau Laurier. Here's the Chateau Laurier Hotel in Ottawa. It has a green copper roof and the muzzle had fouling that was the same color.  |
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Posted: 2/27/2021 8:01:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not a typo. You could see green fouling at the muzzle. It looked like green copper roof on the Chateau Laurier. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Something else to report: I fired the 9.3 Garand in early 2019 and I put only about 30 rounds through it. I decided to inspect the rifle before taking it out today and I was shocked to see green copper fouling at the muzzle. I ran some Wipe Out through the bore and the patches came out solidly blue. Patch after patch came out that way. It's clean now, but I've never seen so much copper fouling. Anyway, its clean now. At the muzzle??? Is that a typo??? Not a typo. You could see green fouling at the muzzle. It looked like green copper roof on the Chateau Laurier. What kind of bullets? Are you pretty sure it was clean before you shot? It could have been some kind of lube or machine oil from when the barrel was installed. |
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Posted: 2/27/2021 8:03:02 AM EDT
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I used the 300 grain Hornady solid and Prvi Partisan 286 grain factory ammo.
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Posted: 2/27/2021 8:05:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not a typo. You could see green fouling at the muzzle. It looked like green copper roof on the Chateau Laurier. Here's the Chateau Laurier Hotel in Ottawa. It has a green copper roof and the muzzle had fouling that was the same color. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/234818/51985-1843295.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Something else to report: I fired the 9.3 Garand in early 2019 and I put only about 30 rounds through it. I decided to inspect the rifle before taking it out today and I was shocked to see green copper fouling at the muzzle. I ran some Wipe Out through the bore and the patches came out solidly blue. Patch after patch came out that way. It's clean now, but I've never seen so much copper fouling. Anyway, its clean now. At the muzzle??? Is that a typo??? Not a typo. You could see green fouling at the muzzle. It looked like green copper roof on the Chateau Laurier. Here's the Chateau Laurier Hotel in Ottawa. It has a green copper roof and the muzzle had fouling that was the same color. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/234818/51985-1843295.jpg 
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Posted: 2/27/2021 8:09:10 AM EDT
[#43]
Your 9.2x62 Mauser conversion makes a .35 Whelen conversion look quite vanilla by comparison. Safari Garand indeed.
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Posted: 2/27/2021 8:11:15 AM EDT
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It is -17 degrees F here today and I just want to see if I can fire a clip or two.
This is basically a function test. |
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Posted: 2/27/2021 9:17:28 AM EDT
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Well I'm tuned the hell in. 9.3 is pretty versatile with bullet weights/velocities from 232gr norma/2700+ to 320 woodleigh/2300fps.
I had picked up 500 250gr Barnes bullets for $100 a while back. The round is for much more than bear and pig as Cape buffalo have been taken with single 250 or 286gr Barnes. |
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Posted: 2/27/2021 11:29:48 AM EDT
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Sooo, Garands in custom calibers...
How does one learn this power? |
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Posted: 2/27/2021 11:40:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not a typo. You could see green fouling at the muzzle. It looked like green copper roof on the Chateau Laurier. Here's the Chateau Laurier Hotel in Ottawa. It has a green copper roof and the muzzle had fouling that was the same color. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/234818/51985-1843295.jpg If the powder in those loads has a copper fouling deterrent(like CFE 223 go example) you'll notice a lot more copper on your muzzle device/crown areas since less of it is getting smeared/stuck on the bore and it doesn't take long to turn that green in most environments. Also been watching you from afar for awhile. Good stuff OP.  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/27/2021 11:53:45 AM EDT
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If Crabby ever gets tired of shoveling snow I'm available.
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Posted: 2/27/2021 11:56:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sooo, Garands in custom calibers... How does one learn this power? 
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Posted: 2/27/2021 11:58:45 AM EDT
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Here's a clip of 9.3x62 ammo sitting next to a clip of .308.
The 9.3x62 load consists of a 286 grain bullet with 58 grains of W-748. 
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