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Posted: 1/14/2021 7:39:54 AM EDT
[#1]
Does this seem "cheaper" all the sudden? Not the shipping. I just don't recall seeing decent milsurp 308 for less than $1/round in the last year, and now the same hirt is available from multiple retailers.
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Posted: 1/14/2021 9:07:44 AM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Nice, aimsurplus use to do the same kind of form. Some state law for them or something I think. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Mine was 47 bucks for shipping, no tax and I didn't have to fill out that form. What was that all about? I was thinking it would make me fill it out after my checkout but nope. My card got charged and everything, got an email verification. Nice, aimsurplus use to do the same kind of form. Some state law for them or something I think. I ordered the same thing from Aimsurplus just in case the Max Arms order fell through. I just noticed that the second email I got from them states that the order is "up for review", whatever that means. probably make me fill out the form.  They want a copy of my DL/ How the hell do i do that? My scanner/printer doesn't work. Glad i ordered from Aim, even though it was about 80 bucks more.
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Posted: 1/14/2021 9:08:55 AM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: ordered...shipping to PA was 44 bucks...worked out cheaper than AIM... Did you send them a copy of your DL? |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 9:18:04 AM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Did you send them a copy of your DL? For my order, no. I put my FFL info in the little box below billing info. |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 9:18:25 AM EDT
[#5]
my order from AIM was shipping $21.87 , they have never gouged me or asked for my D/L
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Posted: 1/14/2021 9:22:21 AM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone that has ordered, do they add tax as well once you actually check out? Might be worth it if not, but if so I think I'll just stick with the 1000 rounds of tula I've already got. if a thousand rounds does it for you ok , me im more comfortable with getting my numbers up further , im just glad i streamed down the number of calibers i keep |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 9:22:29 AM EDT
[#7]
Got all you guys beat for shipping cost.
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Posted: 1/14/2021 9:24:19 AM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Is the high shipping the result of no more ORM-D shipping? its about suplimenting their cost of ammo , draw you in with cheap price and stab you on shipping and "handling" costs , they will ship the slowest form possible |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 9:25:03 AM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: its about supplementing their cost of ammo , draw you in with cheap price and stab you on shipping and "handling" costs , they will ship the slowest form possible |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 9:26:27 AM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: "This product requires an ammunition statement form if you do not have an FFL." Lol. They can keep their ammo. They never asked me for anything, other than my address, email and credit card info. $320 shipped for me |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 9:36:15 AM EDT
[#11]
See DSA is out but reading their ad it lists it as Berdan/non reloadable. AIM is higher but lists their's as Boxer
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Posted: 1/14/2021 11:00:33 AM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: For my order, no. I put my FFL info in the little box below billing info. Ok, thanks. |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 11:02:00 AM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: "This product requires an ammunition statement form if you do not have an FFL." Lol. They can keep their ammo. Didn’t Aim Surplus do that back in the day? |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 11:03:04 AM EDT
[#14]
$107 for 800 rounds to ship to me. No thanks.
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Posted: 1/14/2021 11:03:18 AM EDT
[#15]
In the old days there were 2 types of Hirt, with green primer sealer or red. Green was the good one as I recall, red was less accurate. The red was on par with other surplus, but the green shot tighter groups. It all fired, it was just group size. To me, the green was better , but not good enough to satisfy for accurate shooting, so not worth more than other surplus. So I sold it all to people who were impressed by it and paying extra for it. btw, the south African 308 was sought after but kinda sucked. SA had a good reputation because of 5.56, that people improperly carried over to 308. So I sold all of that too. |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 11:16:58 AM EDT
[#16]
LOL @ .70/round for surplus grade fmj. For another few pennies per round you can buy quality name brand soft points.
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Posted: 1/14/2021 11:25:20 AM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL @ .70/round for surplus grade fmj. For another few pennies per round you can buy quality name brand soft points. Where? I'm not against paying a little more for better ammo. TIA. |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 11:29:19 AM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL @ .70/round for surplus grade fmj. For another few pennies per round you can buy quality name brand soft points. Post some links! I need good ammo! |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 11:32:36 AM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL @ .70/round for surplus grade fmj. For another few pennies per round you can buy quality name brand soft points. You laugh but people are selling out of 5.56 / .223 at this price or more. Post links of cheap SP ammo please. |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 11:32:43 AM EDT
[#20]
They had 7.62nato in stock at sportsmans yesterday for 55cpr
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Posted: 1/14/2021 11:34:15 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Didn’t Aim Surplus do that back in the day? Yep. I never ordered ammo from them either, for that reason. |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 11:34:19 AM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Post some links! I need good ammo! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: LOL @ .70/round for surplus grade fmj. For another few pennies per round you can buy quality name brand soft points. Post some links! I need good ammo! Tag |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 11:39:41 AM EDT
[#23]
They want a copy of your drivers license?
 Sure. I am 100% convinced that is completely legitimate. |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 11:56:04 AM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They had 7.62nato in stock at sportsmans yesterday for 55cpr Wolf? |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 12:14:14 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Didn’t Aim Surplus do that back in the day? Yes and then got hacked |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 12:47:30 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 40.00 ship to Ohio ouch Aim surplus has it stock for 349.00 no paperwork BS I live in Oh cost me just under 380.00 TMD https://aimsurplus.com/austrian-hirtenberger-7-62x51-400rd-can-milsurp-on-stripper-clips-and-bandoliers/ Yeah, but I can get to me in NW OH for $331 shipped. I loves me some AIM but they're 2+ hours south of me AND more expensive than having it shipped in. Hard to justify. |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 12:52:16 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You laugh but people are selling out of 5.56 / .223 at this price or more. Post links of cheap SP ammo please. Just checked Ammoseek. $0.82/round is as good as it gets there. Tracers, brass cased. Steel Cased Tula is a few cents more a round. I'd love to find this soft point stuff, too. |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 1:50:23 PM EDT
[#28]
What do you guys think of tracers? I'm thinking of getting some just for fun.
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Posted: 1/14/2021 1:53:36 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What do you guys think of tracers? I'm thinking of getting some just for fun. Neat but largely useless unless you live near a desert or have your own range. Most ranges forbid their use as they can be a fire hazard...they also tell people your shooting location. If I live someplace where they could be shot for fun without fear of burning something down I'd keep a few hundred on hand. |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 2:37:19 PM EDT
[#30]
FYI, Max Arms is legit and they're aware their shipping quotes are wonky.
I just took delivery of a few cases and without breaking them open everything looks kosher. They asked that if your shipping quote is crazy, call and place the order over the phone. |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 3:35:53 PM EDT
[#31]
So why is it that when i put two cases in the cart, its higher than the price they have on their ad?
Edited: Just spoke to Max Arms, if you want a better price call them! I got a way better price on shipping and the gentleman on the phone is amazing! And if you want a crate you have to choose the crate option, dont pick two ammo cans because it costs more, shipping only cost me $22 to central Ohio! |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 4:11:00 PM EDT
[#32]
I checked the status and my order is on hold, with no reason why listed (probably due to not filling out the form). May give them a call, especially if I can get a better shipping price that way.
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Posted: 1/14/2021 4:11:45 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So why is it that when i put two cases in the cart, its higher than the price they have on their ad? Edited: Just spoke to Max Arms, if you want a better price call them! I got a way better price on shipping and the gentleman on the phone is amazing! And if you want a crate you have to choose the crate option, dont pick two ammo cans because it costs more, shipping only cost me $22 to central Ohio! Did you place the order before calling them, or afterwards? I'm wondering if I can get a fix on the shipping, too. |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 4:16:27 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Is that good or bad? Also... 40 yr old ammo? I have been working on my stash of Hirt for 20 years. It's excellent, and equal to new M80 ball in every aspect, and more accurate in the M1A and FAL. Storage is everything. |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 4:22:34 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Neat but largely useless unless you live near a desert or have your own range. Most ranges forbid their use as they can be a fire hazard...they also tell people your shooting location. If I live someplace where they could be shot for fun without fear of burning something down I'd keep a few hundred on hand. Kinda what I'm thinking. I just wanna have some for the next time we go out to New Mexico and do some blasting (who knows when that will happen  ).
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Posted: 1/14/2021 4:25:06 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So why is it that when i put two cases in the cart, its higher than the price they have on their ad? Edited: Just spoke to Max Arms, if you want a better price call them! I got a way better price on shipping and the gentleman on the phone is amazing! And if you want a crate you have to choose the crate option, dont pick two ammo cans because it costs more, shipping only cost me $22 to central Ohio! Were you able to give them the drivers license info over the phone? Did theu even ask for it? |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 4:25:45 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I checked the status and my order is on hold, with no reason why listed (probably due to not filling out the form). May give them a call, especially if I can get a better shipping price that way. So's mine. If you call them, please update whether or not they asked for your DL info. |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 4:26:25 PM EDT
[#38]
Ordered. Thanks OP. I have an FFL, so that made it easier.
This may end up in the “sell to desperate people” pile. I don’t shoot a lot of .308. |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 4:56:43 PM EDT
[#39]
Call in to place your order. Talked to Dan and he fixed the shipping quote for me. Saved about $40, roughly $300 out the door
Definitely going back to these guys, cool dude on the phone Dan - when you finally sign up here holler at us |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 5:39:41 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Call in to place your order. Talked to Dan and he fixed the shipping quote for me. Saved about $40, roughly $300 out the door Definitely going back to these guys, cool dude on the phone Dan - when you finally sign up here holler at us Spoke to Dan also. Very cool dude got mine down to $300 too. Mentioned AR15.com he said a lot of people were calling because of this thread. |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 5:49:25 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: In the old days there were 2 types of Hirt, with green primer sealer or red. Green was the good one as I recall, red was less accurate. The red was on par with other surplus, but the green shot tighter groups. It all fired, it was just group size. To me, the green was better , but not good enough to satisfy for accurate shooting, so not worth more than other surplus. So I sold it all to people who were impressed by it and paying extra for it. btw, the south African 308 was sought after but kinda sucked. SA had a good reputation because of 5.56, that people improperly carried over to 308. So I sold all of that too.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 5:53:51 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: In the old days there were 2 types of Hirt, with green primer sealer or red. Green was the good one as I recall, red was less accurate. The red was on par with other surplus, but the green shot tighter groups. It all fired, it was just group size. To me, the green was better , but not good enough to satisfy for accurate shooting, so not worth more than other surplus. So I sold it all to people who were impressed by it and paying extra for it. btw, the south African 308 was sought after but kinda sucked. SA had a good reputation because of 5.56, that people improperly carried over to 308. So I sold all of that too. whats wrong with the SA , ive been getting it in battle packs , ive only run maybe 20 rds through a LR308 and it seems great |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 7:38:40 PM EDT
[#43]
After i put the order in, they canceled it and reordered it over the phone
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Posted: 1/14/2021 7:39:14 PM EDT
[#44]
Nope no drivers license required or anything related to their message
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Posted: 1/14/2021 7:44:43 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: After i put the order in, they canceled it and reordered it over the phone Cool. I forgot about the time difference, so it was too late for today, but I'll give them a call tomorrow and try doing the same and seeing what the hold is about (might also be due to me sending it to an AZ address). |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 7:48:10 PM EDT
[#46]
Yep. I called today also. Dan canceled my order and gave me a better deal plus fixed the shipping. Super nice guy, I’d order from him anytime!
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Posted: 1/14/2021 9:01:40 PM EDT
[#47]
From DSArms, mine ended up being 74 cents a rounds after shipping. Not bad considering there's no limits. You can order thousands of rounds. And they come with the ammo tins and bandoleers. If you figure a surplus ammo tin is $15, then that brings the cost down to 71 cents a round for the ammo.
Look around for the bandolier and stripper clips and those are selling for $25 a set. Each of these ammo tins comes with 8 sets. Not saying you'll sell them all for $25 a pop. But I'm sure you could get back some of your money if you really wanted to. Probably get you down to 60 or even 50 cents a round after selling those things off. |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 9:10:19 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: whats wrong with the SA , ive been getting it in battle packs , ive only run maybe 20 rds through a LR308 and it seems great Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: In the old days there were 2 types of Hirt, with green primer sealer or red. Green was the good one as I recall, red was less accurate. The red was on par with other surplus, but the green shot tighter groups. It all fired, it was just group size. To me, the green was better , but not good enough to satisfy for accurate shooting, so not worth more than other surplus. So I sold it all to people who were impressed by it and paying extra for it. btw, the south African 308 was sought after but kinda sucked. SA had a good reputation because of 5.56, that people improperly carried over to 308. So I sold all of that too. whats wrong with the SA , ive been getting it in battle packs , ive only run maybe 20 rds through a LR308 and it seems great The South African 308 had soft brass. I had a ton of it and always had difficult extraction from my savage bolt gun. I think it was made for the g3 with the fluted chamber |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 9:31:26 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL @ .70/round for surplus grade fmj. For another few pennies per round you can buy quality name brand soft points. And where are you finding these name brand soft points $.75/round nowadays? |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 3:45:35 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep. I called today also. Dan canceled my order and gave me a better deal plus fixed the shipping. Super nice guy, I’d order from him anytime! Definitely a nice guy and fixed my shipping price as well. Ended up being less than what DSA would have cost after shipping if they still had ammo when I tried to order. I'd never heard of them before this week, but I'd definitely be happy to do business with them again. Don't forget that they have .303 as well, for guys who need that, and at a reasonable price given today's market conditions. I was rather surprised to see that. It's been a few years now since I've seen surplus .303 online, period. Funny thing is that if it wasn't for the e-mail from DSA on the Hirtenberger ammo, I probably never would have heard of this business, as I found them when looking to see if anyone other than DSA got the ammo so I could compare pricing (AIM has it, too, but it would cost me over $400 to get it from them). Sounds like he's getting a lot of orders from folks registered here on ARFCOM. |
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