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7/25/2008 4:29:11 PM EDT
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7/25/2008 4:30:25 PM EDT
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Anyone else read the Horus Heresy novels? Some really good twists in the stories, such as the end of Legion.


someone at work was reading them said they were good.  they took them home to read so I never got to
7/25/2008 4:39:01 PM EDT
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Ibram Gaunt for the win!

How can anyone not like a game where the good guys solve almost all problems by killing 'em all and letting (the) God (Emperor of Mankind) sort it out?

I have never played the game, but I own quite a few of the novels. Gaunts Ghosts and the Space Wolf books got me hooked. Bought the Last Chancers & Eisenhorn omnibus recently, which will soon be at the top of the reading pile.


Loved Gaunt's Ghosts. I have two old first printings of the first two books that a friend gave me. Not in perfect condition, but good nonetheless. I actually went to Games Day just to get those two signed (and buy the next two books).

It was the Space Wolf series that got me into the actual stories. Eisenhorn's good too.

Just finished the Ravenor Trilogy, also by Abnett. Damn good.

Anyone else read the Horus Heresy novels? Some really good twists in the stories, such as the end of Legion.


While my favorite is Gaunts Ghosts series, the Eisenhorn and Ravenor series are close behind.  I do hope Dan A. revisits Eisenhorn again, I miss him.  

I have been reading the Heresy books, started well but I was beginning to lose interest.  LEGION won me back.  Great book, nice twist ending.

Now if Gordon Rennie would get back to writing more tales of the good ship Lord Solar Macharius and it's captain, Leoten Semper, then I'll be happy.  Two books is not enough.
7/25/2008 4:46:37 PM EDT
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Of course....this looks pretty damn bad ass. Link


Oh crap!  TYRANIDS!!  This is going to be awesome!
7/25/2008 6:40:33 PM EDT
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Anybody else ever play real old school Steve Jackson games like Ogre and Car Wars back in the day?


Yep.  Both.  Plus Illuminati and Nuclear War.
7/25/2008 6:49:43 PM EDT
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Hey, at least it was not a group of guys in their 20s playing Yu-gi-oh.
7/25/2008 7:02:20 PM EDT
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Check out Flames of War.

WWII table top battles.





7/25/2008 7:26:56 PM EDT
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I don't play Warhammer 40k and I haven't read any of the books (though I'll probably be picking one up before the summer is over), but I love the art for the Imperium and the Tau. I also have ten unpainted Space Marines a friend gave me.
7/25/2008 8:30:00 PM EDT
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Anybody else ever play real old school Steve Jackson games like Ogre and Car Wars back in the day?

Car Wars only a couple of times.  Now PARANOIA (from West End Games), THAT was a game!  
7/25/2008 8:39:54 PM EDT
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Geez...coming from a guy who has Boba Fett as an Avatar....

I used to play 40K and the Epic scale [insert nerd icon here]

Also made over $1K selling my painted miniatures a few years back.  Still have a few special pieces around here somewhere.

And for what its worth - much like the Star Wars world you appear to enjoy Yoda, there's a whole 'world' and back-story within Warhammer 40K as well.

Then I realized I liked sex better.....


I can't stop laughing. You mock someone for their avatar, then openly admit that you played tabletop games and painted little toy figurines BEFORE you realized you liked sex better????



WTF???

I think the last line would have been more correct if written like this:


Then I had sex.....



7/25/2008 9:12:58 PM EDT
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Osht, not only am I a furry, but I'm a Warhammer 40,000 playing nerd!  The horror!

I've got two armies, a small (750 point) Space Marine army and like 2500 points of Space Wolves.  Been playing for like six years now.

I don't know about making noises or anything; we don't do any crap like that in my gaming group.  The best part about it is getting some friends together and having some fun.  Think about getting together and playing poker with some friends.  Have some snacks, some drinks, and play a game together.  Same deal, except instead of surprising people with a good bluff, we surprise people with drop pods full of superhuman warriors raining from orbiting cruisers onto the battlefield.
7/25/2008 9:53:27 PM EDT
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Osht, not only am I a furry, but I'm a Warhammer 40,000 playing nerd!  The horror!

I've got two armies, a small (750 point) Space Marine army and like 2500 points of Space Wolves.  Been playing for like six years now.

I don't know about making noises or anything; we don't do any crap like that in my gaming group.  The best part about it is getting some friends together and having some fun.  Think about getting together and playing poker with some friends.  Have some snacks, some drinks, and play a game together.  Same deal, except instead of surprising people with a good bluff, we surprise people with drop pods full of superhuman warriors raining from orbiting cruisers onto the battlefield.


7/25/2008 10:09:24 PM EDT
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Battletech FTW







7/25/2008 10:16:59 PM EDT
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Damnit, I was hoping this was going "My son has got on Warhammer, only now do I find out it's DEVIL WORSHIP!"

I played Marines when I was younger and more foolish.

Now I play Inquisitor. Way more fun (for me, anyway, because I luff the fluff.) than 40k and only costs about $200 for you average warband. I'm geeky enough to bitch and moan about who Abnett got the Inquisition wrong, wrong, WRONG in Eisenhorn.  

And we just got 54mm miniatures back in Oz.
7/26/2008 4:29:36 AM EDT
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Now I play Inquisitor. Way more fun (for me, anyway, because I luff the fluff.) than 40k and only costs about $200 for you average warband. I'm geeky enough to bitch and moan about who Abnett got the Inquisition wrong, wrong, WRONG in Eisenhorn.



Haven't looked at Inquisitor. I'm presuming it's an offshoot of Necromunda?

Which reminds me, whatever happened my Van Saars?

NTM
7/26/2008 1:02:52 PM EDT
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Now PARANOIA (from West End Games), THAT was a game!  

"Serve the Computer. The Computer is your friend."
7/26/2008 1:11:58 PM EDT
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My wife goes to watch sex and the city with her friends once a week. I guess they have a few drinks, and chat, I really have no clue but its good time for me to spend taking care and finishing any unfinished projects, or start new ones.

She wants me to go with her last night because her friends husband has his friends over that same night to play warhammer 40k. From what se told me they have little handpainted army guys and the st them up on a table. I was thinking they are recreating actual historical wars or at least civil war era battles so I decided to see whats its about.

NOPE.

It is a Sci-Fi board game. They roll dice, read rule books, diss "bolt" guns over lasers, make "boom, boom, smoke, smoke" sounds and whatnot. One of these guys is explaining to me how a slug round works. No one knew what an Uzi was evn though the guns the figures had looked like one. II wanted to tell them about how a minigun sounds the firsttime you hear , but didnt.

I wound up driving to the corner store for beer and a cigar, and going back to sit on the friends porch for two hours watching the city and its traffic pass by. It would have been more entertaining to hang out with the girls watching movies than watch warhammer 40k be played.


Does anyone know about this? some people take it serious. They had thousands$$$$ in this game.


You do realize you have bobba fett has your avatar.

Someone post the hierarchy of nerds flow chart.
7/26/2008 1:20:47 PM EDT
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As requested.

7/26/2008 1:23:50 PM EDT
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For the sake of the Chart (thanks Swindle!) I am going to put the  table top wargamers as a off shoot of RPG players.

Historical Wargamers would put themselves above
Fantasy based wargamers likw: WFB, 40K, ETC would be below.
7/26/2008 1:50:03 PM EDT
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I WILL play warhammer if they ever integrate it into something like this.

www.microsoft.com/surface/index.html

That'd be the shit


That is fookin awsome.
I will be showing that to IT as soon as I get to the office monday.
IOW........
I SHALL HAVE IT!
Thx for posting it.

As for Warhammer Junkies,
to each their own. I have a friend that has $12,000 dollars sunk into his set up and has even had some items that can't be purchased anywhere custom made. He and his sons have a blast with it and since he makes 800K a year (net Profit after operating expenses and 75% reinvestment in the company) in a business that is growing daily, I am sure he can afford to spend the cash.
I will say that after watching it being played I really saw nothing that I would enjoy in it but, my son loves it so, I am very likely to be buying him some battle sets soon.
sw1217
ETA: I did not know there were interactive electronic versions (PC GAMER) of this.
Will be aquiring them asap. FOR MY SON OF COURSE
sw1217
7/26/2008 1:56:23 PM EDT
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As requested.

www.brunching.com/images/geekchartbig.gif


Sweet! I'm not nearly geeky as I thought I was.
7/26/2008 2:01:30 PM EDT
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NERDS!!!!!

j/k.  I never got into that but I whooped Baldur Gate's ass back in the day.  
7/26/2008 2:04:22 PM EDT
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It was fun when I was 10 or whatever, plus it's good to get your artistic talent going painting these little fuckers but let's be honest...it takes too long for anyone with a serious job or personal responsibilities to paint up a little army of warriors and head to your local (vomit) comic book store (vomit again) to play this game.

Buy the videogame and be done with it. It's like command and conquer, but with character and a good storyline.
7/26/2008 6:51:45 PM EDT
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This be amusing.

Diary of a Chaos Space Marine

NTM
7/27/2008 1:22:13 AM EDT
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Now I play Inquisitor. Way more fun (for me, anyway, because I luff the fluff.) than 40k and only costs about $200 for you average warband. I'm geeky enough to bitch and moan about who Abnett got the Inquisition wrong, wrong, WRONG in Eisenhorn.



Haven't looked at Inquisitor. I'm presuming it's an offshoot of Necromunda?

NTM


Similar in only the most broadest sense - it's small unit combat in the 40k universe, but that's where the similarities end. It's a "narrative wargame", which means the object is not beat the snot out of the opposition (although that is by no means banned) but rather to have a cool game with an exciting story, played with 54mm miniatures. Sort of a cross between a regular points wargame and a RPG like D&D

There are no points in Inqy - so yes, you could have a Space Marine warband consisting of (and these are real Space Marines, who can tear open walls and shrug off frag missile hits, not the the pussy toned down version in 40k) four Librarians armed with daemon weapons, but the key thing is you have to justify everything to your "Games Master" (a third player who acts as a referee, creates the scenarios and generally lords over the other players) with background or "fluff".

It's a welcome break from the noob powergamers and the like, but you've gotta find people with the right mindset - this isn't the place for someone who is ultra competitive. It's great for those who enjoy fun and cool games and making some awesome backstory and don't mind their characters losing the odd limb now and then.  

You can get the rulebook and a ton of articles on free from the Specialist Games website.
7/27/2008 1:38:02 AM EDT
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I'm not really into it...

I know people who are into it and have multi hundred dollar single pieces.





It's like Sci/fi stratego.  Not a spectator sport.  It's really only fun for those playing.  



I do really like the art of which I see much of in this thread.  I could see myself getting and painting some of the figures eventually.  Probably not play though.  Just because I have too many other expensive hobbies.  I'm just not interested in starting another.
7/28/2008 6:25:07 AM EDT
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Anybody else ever play real old school Steve Jackson games like Ogre and Car Wars back in the day?

Car Wars only a couple of times.  Now PARANOIA (from West End Games), THAT was a game!  

User how do you know of this west end games?
7/28/2008 8:31:18 AM EDT
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For the sake of the Chart (thanks Swindle!) I am going to put the  table top wargamers as a off shoot of RPG players.

Historical Wargamers would put themselves above
Fantasy based wargamers likw: WFB, 40K, ETC would be below.


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Risk isn't in the same category, but is just as "respectable" as historical wargaming. In fact, if you've never played Risk, you deserve a swift kick to the balls.

Hitler never played Risk as a child. His invasion of Russia proves it. Seven extra guys at the start of every turn, but you could never hold on to the green ones.
7/28/2008 8:47:56 AM EDT
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bleh on Risk.

Play Diplomacy instead.

Or

AH's Civilization if you can find it.

7/28/2008 8:48:02 AM EDT
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I picked up the Dawn of War computer game and liked it a lot.  Now I've been going through some of the books.  They're good little action novels - lots of action.  I can't seem to make much sense of the order of the books though.  It's like they're all written independent of each other.

I doubt I'll get involved in the tabletop version.
7/28/2008 8:49:25 AM EDT
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This thread got me to thinking about all the miniatures stacked somewhere in a closet.  So I broke them out Sunday morning.  Most were broken, figured I'd put them back together so I can throw them up on ebay.  By the end of a one hour gluing session, I just wanted to play again, to see if it was still fun.  Took them down to a local gaming store and absolutely DESTROYED a 1500pt Imperial Guard army.  Was fun for an afternoon, but damn the guys in there smelled bad.  Don't think I'll be back.

But I got to smile at some overweight, pimpley kid and say, "BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!  SKULLS FOR THE THRONE OF KHORNE!"  



Hey, it was cheaper than an afternoon of shooting and its ok to be a total geek once in awhile.
7/28/2008 8:56:04 AM EDT
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This is the first I've heard of this game.

It must be some phenomenon like World of Warcraft that completely passed me by.
7/28/2008 9:19:12 AM EDT
[#33]
remember many think your hobbies are stupid---get over it
8/6/2008 6:07:38 AM EDT
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Anybody else ever play real old school Steve Jackson games like Ogre and Car Wars back in the day?

Car Wars only a couple of times.  Now PARANOIA (from West End Games), THAT was a game!  

User how do you know of this west end games?


I love west end games!

I play the D6 version of star wars and paranoia.

There is no better game to play with friends than paranoia. So much light hearted treachery and death all to appease The Computer. Do you have your mandatory happy on?
8/6/2008 6:37:46 AM EDT
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Id heard of it but had no idea of its cost!

Holy shit !! Thousands of dollars??

I guess Im out of the loop showing my age , I remember when D&D was what all the geeks were into.

Have any of you players ever participated in a 3-gun or IDPA type match? A paintball match? Im not shitting on your hobby , just curious over the advantage of fun compared to say shooting games or paintball type games?

And the board type play is preferable to online?


(I do like the art though,and always liked building/painting model soldiers/tanks/arty etc.......I just dont do it anymore.)

8/6/2008 12:23:21 PM EDT
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Have any of you players ever participated in a 3-gun or IDPA type match? A paintball match? Im not shitting on your hobby , just curious over the advantage of fun compared to say shooting games or paintball type games?


Who's to say you can't enjoy both? And if it's pissing rain outside, and you have a choice between soaking playing paintball or hanging around indoors with beer and pizza playing board games, is that really a choice?


And the board type play is preferable to online?


Hell, yes.

For two very important reasons.

Firstly, and this is the important bit, it's a social event. Hang out with your buddies. Have a laugh. Let him show you the new rifle he bought. Chat about politics. Good, old-fashioned, human interaction between friends. Why have a Superbowl Party when you can just sit in front of your own TV?

Secondly, and this is personal preference, board games provide you far greater amounts of flexibility. A computer game is limited to only what the programmer thought to put in. So yes, I get a lot more time playing Harpoon on the computer because it's a bastard to find real players, but on the other hand, the computer won't allow me to "Fire a warning shot into his bridge!" or ask the umpire to tune in to CNN to see the dirty great warship sitting off the coast which is shelling the local McDonald's. Sometimes a rule just makes no sense at all in certain situations, and as miniatures players you can just agree to ignore it. You do not have that option in an online computer game.

NTM
10/6/2008 9:30:15 AM EDT
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Never got into 40K, but played Battletech every Sunday for a few years in high school.

Ten guys, a 3-D 10x10' map, and 5,000 tons per side.  Actually using artillerty and indirect fire rules.  THAT was fun.


You went by tonnage? That's totally unbalanced, you go by battle value.

I'm not allowed to use artillery any more because I always use Inferno rounds for the Arrow IV and set fire to the entire map. They can't stop me from being a C3 sniper whore though.


Battle value?  Must be a newer thing--this was in the early 90's, about the time the Clans came back to town.  Never had a problem with unbalanced--we all played diverse companies (no 12 Atlas units...).  My unit was made up of Shadow Hawks, Archers, Valkries, and an Assault-class lance.  Others ran everything from Elementals and Commandos to Daishis.  We loved the inferno-rounds, too.  But we had more fun with the minelayer rounds...('Boom!  That Hatchetman just lost a leg.  Can't wait to send 200 LRM's his way next round!')


They've had battle value since the 1st edition boxed set in the late 80's.

People hate it when I play Clan, because I totally wank out their stuff. A Bane-3 with eight LRM 15's firing Thunder-Augmented rounds, covering a total of 56 hexes with mines every turn kinda pisses people off. Especially when my artillery is either setting all their shit on fire or blowing it up.

The new Total Warfare rules totally nerfed everything. Now Inferno rounds instead of setting your mech (or tank) on fire and doing 3 heat for 3 turns per Inferno round acts like the flamers do and just add 3 heat per missile for that turn alone. And you're only allowed to add a maximum of 15 heat from fires/flamers/Inferno rounds every turn, which is bullshit. TW has a few nice changes, but most of them just muck the game up. TW isn't going to last long because so many people are complaining about the retarded changes.

My favorite mechs have to be the Phoenix Hawk, Marauder, Highlander IIC, Shootist, and Timber Wolf.


I used to play battletech via chatroom on AOL back in the day, didn't want to play with my friends because I didn't want them knowing how big a dork I was....
I got real into the storyline and editors, made a shit-ton of designs with fluff, they're still up on solaris7.com here Lars Corp

BTW, Battle Value came out with BMR, before that it was CV.

And does anybody still play on Megamek? Right now my internet sucks because I'm at Ft McCoy but once I get to Iraq I'll have better internet (irony), and it'd be cool to get a couple of games in to kill time between missions.

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