home builders cant build a rifle as good as some minimum wage monkey assembling the same parts.

need help on youtube link cuz poor

https://youtu.be/NE0Tx70KJiQ

LOL, no.

my man

Well I would trust an sr15 over anything Bubba slapped together in his garage, even with parts of similar quality.

Depends on the factory rifle, depends on the homebuild/homebuilder.

TPNI!

Sounds like they don't like money.

wonder how much business he just lost

isnt this the same range that had some other fucktard trainer?

Fuck that dude........

from the comments:

~What happens when the factory gun fails? ??

~Bring a knife? But no aftermarket sharpening?

~This episode is sponsored by Geiselle! “Quality triggers for the war fighters and the competitors”

~"You can't build a rifle better than Eugene Stoner!"  Reid, that's just asinine.  Nobody has a rifle built by Eugene Stoner.  And just because a rifle is "factory" doesn't mean it's good.  There are hundreds of factory rifles, ranging from excellent to junk.  The rifles I have built have served me flawlessly for many classes.  But hey, if you don't want me in your classes that's your call.

~Exactly!
I've installed a Geissele trigger in my DDM4 , 15" Daniel slim rail and changed the buttstock.
Whos he to judge my rifle?
Lemme guess, a Palmetto rifle in stock form is better?
I did more time in the Corps than he did, and I don't lie about my MOS.

They aren't home built, they're home assembled.

Someone that knows what they are doing, and using quality components will assemble a rifle just as well as anyone else.

It's snobbery. "muh rifle was professionally built".

That bitch needs a haircut

you spelled stupidity wrong, just sayin'

I have seen homebuilt guns fail before, but it was because they didn’t loctite handguard screws or poor assembly. They always had a back up or someone in the class loaned them their back up gun. I see no problem with homebuilt guns and so does every instructor but this one guy.

If MullettMan doesn’t know, or can’t afford Geissele AR triggers, he shouldn’t be teaching....

Sounds like his petty authority has done seduced himself

LOL - No handloads at all. Jesus what a retard.

"People who bring handloads to class have nothing but problems. If I had a dollar for everyone who said 'oh my stuff is just as good as from the factory' and their gun either explodes or rounds fail to chamber, or anything else like that...."

I'm sure he has reasons for his rules, and it's his range/class so I'm all for it in that specific instance; he probably does have a ton of retards who cycle through there. That said, only you know what your skills/capabilities at the bench are, and his "requirements" shouldn't determine how you handle your business elsewhere.

When talking ARs, it is just assembly, not anything like gunsmithing skills.

If you do it right it will be every bit as good as the top of the line products, assuming the same parts. It isn't hard to do it right.

On the other hand if it is building a Colt Python, including the finishing, most of us can't duplicate what the factory does.

Kenny Fuckin Powers right there.

"He can't tell you how many times" because he's just making stuff up at this point.

Does he also have a list of "acceptable" factory guns, or is "factory built" the only requirement? Is a Del-Ton rifle okay, or does it have to be Colt?

Is he seriously arguing that an aftermarket trigger in an AR is a failure point?

What a pretentious windbag...

I knew even before clicking on this thread, that this was the video you were going to mention...

I've not trained with Mr. Hendricks, but I have trained extensively at other places and I understand his position..

I even stated that on the video...

QFT

My home-built SBR is the only gun I ever put together from individual parts, and it has never malfunctioned. I can't say that about any other AR that I have ever owned.

i feel like i wanna show up with some p80 glocks and a 80% ar15's. that would mean i would be the manufacture and can use what ever i like.

other then that i wouldn't take a class from some one like that.

What a retard. I would understand saying "test your gun BEFORE you come" but specifically saying no builds are allowed is stupid as hell. I built my first AR recently and it worked just fine, but I wouldn't bring it to a class until I had run it for 1,000 rounds. ''

Sounds like a douchenozzel who thinks he is teaching some tier 1 class.

All of my AR's are junk ...

Sounds like one of those classes where you just shoot 1000s of rounds but don't learn a fucking thing.

The fuck are you talking about? I have had a high and tight since middle school! And what if I AM a bitch?

Everyone here is a steely eyed pro that uses nothing but the best parts assembled with world class tools and torqued/staked perfectly

In reality the vast vast majority of homebuilts I see through work were built out of the cheapest stuff they could get off eBay assembled with a pipe wrench , hammer and straight screw driver by a dude that has an IQ of about room temp .

Or just tell people "We're not responsible for your shit working.   Make sure your shit works before you come to class.  If it doesn't work, you can still audit the class, but we're not going to stop the class and wait for you to fix your gun.  No refunds if your gun malfunctions.  That's your responsibility."

I really hate stupid, overarching "solutions" like this.

Is that you?

Oh ALSO from the comments................

"You joke, but Mr Henrichs actually did start with Tactical Response under Mr Yeager. I don't think the precise circumstances surrounding the schism have ever been made public, but I believe it's safe to assume it happened about the time Yeager started going a little off the political reservation".  

Whats the difference between some shithead sitting in his garage assembling an AR and some shithead sitting in a commercial building assembling ARs?

What if its the SAME shithead who bought some parts from his employer and took them home?

Is the one he put together in his garage somehow inferior?

That guy is a serious douche!

agree

sounds like what they need for that class is to have "Stock" guns and just loan/rent them out for class if they are going to be that anal about it.

Someone should tell the 6.5 G upper I just assembled. The piece of shit makes a nice neat stack of brass at 3 o clock about the size of a beer can.

Suppressed.

Of course, I'm still working on the accuracy but there are an awful lot of variables there.

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I could never grow a mullet and I wasn't allowed to be in the video since I had an aftermarket rifle

He needs a haircut.

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I have a hard time taking him seriously with that douche donut on his noggin.

Let's not be obtuse. The guy is referring to the dipshits that throw UTM and Condor shit on their rifles without being insulting. GD gonna GD though and get offended.

I'd never buy a rifle built by a home builder unless they were a master gunsmith with all of machines, tools, experience, and knowledge to actually build one. I don't know of anyone that had ever built a rifle at home. Nobody I know has a CNC machine at home, to carve out the receiver from a solid block of steel or aluminum (in those cases), or the machines, skills and ability to build a barrel with rifling. Any "monkey" can buy a stripped receiver and the parts and "assemble" (not build) a rifle from parts into a functioning rifle. But, it takes a complete factory to properly "build" a complete rifle from scratch. Although, a lot of companies may contract out the building of some of their parts instead of actually manufacturing the entire rifle in house, like they should be doing to avoid receiving defective parts from secondary contractors.

Except for patent infringements, I don't see any home builder manufacturing a home copy of an FN SCAR 17 in their house. If they did, I surely wouldn't buy one.  FNH is always going to build a better, much higher quality firearm than any builder. As much as I hate the H&K USP or the Glock 17, I'd never buy one that wasn't made by H&K or Glock and was made by a "home builder."

If there actually was a home builder that was able to actually build a rifle at home, then why don't they build something truly desirable like an exact copy clone of a Galil .308 and manufacture the 25rd stamped steel magazines that go with it? If they could and they were legal to buy, I'd buy one, if the quality were there, because IWI is not planning on resurrecting any of them. Well?

LOL

I guess I wont be going to his class...

ETA: Every AR15 I own I've assembled, except for a DPMS Oracle...

Yeah not so much.....

Again from the comments:


Reid Henrichs21 hours ago

To clarify for all:

Aftermarket Rails on rifles= perfectly fine.  Aftermarket sights on pistols:  Fine, even recommended in many cases.  Stipling= Fine.  The things I am referring to in this video are changing internal OEM parts with aftermarket parts once the gun leaves the factory.  If a rifle has a trigger installed from the factory, regardless of brand, that is fine.

I understand his positions, honestly.

A lot of people just change shit out with no serious understanding of what they are doing or how it impacts the system.  Or they don't do a good job reloading, or whatever.

No, a Geissele trigger isn't a problem, but some random shit from the gun store might be.  And we all know there is plenty of shit out there.

A better answer is just to say "we won't wait for you to fix a problem.  If you have one, you are out of the class until you repair it on your own."

That is the only conclusion I can come to. After building a handful of AR's, I don't see how you could fuck it up. If you can put together your kids first bike, you can build assemble an AR.

This. Someone's been hanging out at M4 Carbine again with the colt fanbois. It ain't diamond cutting, follow the instruction, put the parts in right. No worse than what the union drone put together.

If you've got an AR – you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.

Wait, isn't this the dude who used to be in business with James Yeager?

LOL.  No worries.  I doubt I'll take your class...

This.

Geezus, he's wound up a wee bit too tight.  

In his defense, he probably sees more than his fair share of shit bubbad with the cheapest fleabay parts by lukewarm IQ bros.

That's the problem.

After seeing a lot of DIY ARs come through courses where we do high volume, I've seen all kinds of crazy things, mostly mis-aligned gas blocks that everyone thinks they know how to do, but don't.

Then you have incorrectly-assembled LPKs (hammer springs), non-torqued RET nuts, lightweight hammer springs and FTFire, economy barrels with whatever gas port diameter someone wanted to drill, vs a tested and developed quality barrel with the correct chamber and port.

Everyone on the internet is an expert AR15 assembler because they did it once, twice = thousands of times ( people naturally tend to overrate their experience ), therefore it should work.

You get in a class and start seeing short strokes and FTFs left and right.  You don't even need to ask who built it because you can see the Frankenstein neck bolts from across the range, and the Anderson logo on the lower.

It's why I bring back-ups and loaners to courses.

The benefit reputable manufacturers have over DIY is that they have QC processes in place to accept or reject parts, then assemble those parts based on known assembly methods with tooling the DIY doesn't have (drill and pin gas blocks, for example), and they can control what goes into the gun based on lessons-learned.

The DIY builder assumes that his/her parts have the same quality and interoperability (my aluminum CLGS gas block should work fine, as long as it slips over the journal...), but it doesn't work like that.

The benefit of the AR15 is that it is the most plug-and-play design out there, but a lot of parts makers don't know or care what the TDP is, and think that different coatings, shapes, or ergonomic benefits trump fundamental metallurgy, treatments, and inspections.

Finding parts sources that know the TDP and don't diminish it with their modifications or unique designs is where it starts to get much harder in the market.

Statistically, you are far more likely to have a trouble-free course if you buy reputable factory AR15 critical cores.  You are far more likely to experience malfs left and right if you DIY with imitation parts that were made in a culture that couldn't possibly care less about the TDP.

I've been building my own since the mid-1990s, and actively shooting factory AR15s since the 1980s.  I didn't have a clue what I didn't know back then, and thought I was fairly educated on the AR15.  Thank sanity that I never stopped learning all that I can.

The biggest factors in learning more about the design have been:

* Keep thirsting to learn more about the design
* Seeing the difference in performance between actual military M16s, M4s, and SP-1s vs after-market and DIY guns in high volume
* Getting into the retro stuff
* Chambering different cartridges in the AR15 and seeing why so many things work they way they do that would have never reared their head with 5.56x45.
* Decades of all the above

I thought this thread was supposed to be about "Building" a rifle and not simply "assembling" one from already "built" parts?? There is a humongous difference between "building" something and simply "assembling" parts. Assembling is not building anything. As stated by someone else, a "monkey" can assemble anything. A "monkey" is unable to "build" anything. That requires skill and CNC machines that most "monkey's" can't afford to buy, much less have the room in their home to set it up.