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Posted: 4/18/2017 12:46:05 PM EDT
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That video made you feel like you were a part of the murder for real...
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Posted: 4/18/2017 12:49:06 PM EDT
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Exactly. It's like the greatest sin was posting the video. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Blacks kill blacks every day in Chicago and no one really cares.Post it live on facebook and everyone loses their minds...... |
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Posted: 4/18/2017 12:50:36 PM EDT
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Yes, thank you. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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OP makes a valid point. TV is nothing but murder shows and people acting like ignorant idiots. Consuming media like that daily normalizes it, and many people gradually accept it as acceptable behavior. Somehow fake gory gruesome hollywood murder being fine, but seeing an actual murder being bad just doesn't balance out for me. Facts and shit |
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Posted: 4/18/2017 12:51:54 PM EDT
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I think I understand the video game argument now.
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Posted: 4/18/2017 12:52:55 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/18/2017 12:53:54 PM EDT
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No he doesn't. Death has inundated drama since there was drama. Are you fucking kidding me? I am not saying it is OK, quite the opposite is true. I don't watch the serial killer training shows or the gorefest "horror" movies because they are dumb and do not entertain me in the slightest |
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Posted: 4/18/2017 12:54:51 PM EDT
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This guy was randomly murdered just because this asshole wanted to broadcast it.
Seeing people die in make-believe or watching a bunch of terrorists recording a beheading or people dying of crime related violence are not on the same planet as this. We know people don't really die in movies. Terrorists have a political agenda and use death as a means of receiving attention. Crime leading to death is nothing new. Even when someone innocent is killed from gang violence it's from collateral damage, there's another purpose meant for the violence that causes the death, even if not directly. This was a cold and calculated murder of a random person, 'live' on the internet. If that's not attention grabbing, what are you paying attention to? |
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Posted: 4/18/2017 12:55:19 PM EDT
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People were murdered all the time prior to tv and movies.................. Facts and shit Quote HistoryQuoted:
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OP makes a valid point. TV is nothing but murder shows and people acting like ignorant idiots. Consuming media like that daily normalizes it, and many people gradually accept it as acceptable behavior. Somehow fake gory gruesome hollywood murder being fine, but seeing an actual murder being bad just doesn't balance out for me. Facts and shit |
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Posted: 4/18/2017 12:55:59 PM EDT
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Because it's really not the same thing. 
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Posted: 4/18/2017 12:56:33 PM EDT
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I think I understand the video game argument now. We aren't numbed to violence. On the contrary, we are pampered by the historic levels of peace and tranquility. |
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Posted: 4/18/2017 12:56:55 PM EDT
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Seeing it live is a bit disturbing. But beyond that, his video shows that he is a cold blooded & evil person. Evil is shocking. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Blacks kill blacks every day in Chicago and no one really cares.Post it live on facebook and everyone loses their minds...... Most people never see it.They live in a kind of bubble where you see/hear/read about it on the news and then go on with your life. Not much of an impact when it's a stranger and you didn't watch it happen. |
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Posted: 4/18/2017 12:59:19 PM EDT
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I am not talking about silly play deaths. I am talking about the dozens of shows on TV all day long that recount the deaths of people and detail every aspect of the crime, often with police photos and graphic reinactments. People crave death, from the huge crowds at public executions to the high ratings of all those how to be a murderer shows. Actively seeking out the depiction of death and mayhem does not jive with being offended by the real thing. It eventually needs to wanting to see the real thing to get your fix. I am not saying it is OK, quite the opposite is true. I don't watch the serial killer training shows or the gorefest "horror" movies because they are dumb and do not entertain me in the slightest Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No he doesn't. Death has inundated drama since there was drama. Are you fucking kidding me? I am not saying it is OK, quite the opposite is true. I don't watch the serial killer training shows or the gorefest "horror" movies because they are dumb and do not entertain me in the slightest Fiction is interesting, but the real stuff is enthralling. I feel the same way about horror movies. I can suspend belief for entertainment purposes, but they're usually badly written, acted and depicted and I just feel more stupid for watching. |
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Posted: 4/18/2017 12:59:59 PM EDT
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Because most folks can appreciate the difference between make believe and an old man really getting shot in the head? Pretty simple, really. |
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Posted: 4/18/2017 1:01:09 PM EDT
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Of course. There are real murders daily, and fake ones on TV. Why is a real one on "TV" so much more outrageous? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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OP makes a valid point. TV is nothing but murder shows and people acting like ignorant idiots. Consuming media like that daily normalizes it, and many people gradually accept it as acceptable behavior. Somehow fake gory gruesome hollywood murder being fine, but seeing an actual murder being bad just doesn't balance out for me. Facts and shit Do you remember the DC Sniper? |
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Posted: 4/18/2017 1:01:17 PM EDT
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Because most folks can appreciate the difference between make believe and an old man really getting shot in the head? Pretty simple, really. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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...when every other show on TV depicts a murder? We watch murders for entertainment. Because most folks can appreciate the difference between make believe and an old man really getting shot in the head? Pretty simple, really. |
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Posted: 4/18/2017 1:02:41 PM EDT
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Because most folks can appreciate the difference between make believe and an old man really getting shot in the head? Pretty simple, really. |
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Posted: 4/18/2017 1:04:25 PM EDT
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...when every other show on TV depicts a murder? We watch murders for entertainment. I know it isn't the same thing, but it sure makes me wonder. I know I couldn't give two shits. Lol! |
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Posted: 4/18/2017 1:06:04 PM EDT
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Death reminds us that we're still alive. Fantasizing with it allows us the experience without the real world consequences. Fiction is interesting, but the real stuff is enthralling. I feel the same way about horror movies. I can suspend belief for entertainment purposes, but they're usually badly written, acted and depicted and I just feel more stupid for watching. |
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Posted: 4/18/2017 1:08:03 PM EDT
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Wait, the kid we killed yesterday at work wasnt really dead?
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Posted: 4/18/2017 1:08:07 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/18/2017 1:12:01 PM EDT
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It doesn't happen every day, which makes it outrageous. Do you remember the DC Sniper? They aren't posted live,and since we don't know the victim,it's in one ear and out the other. I'm sure we all remember the DC sniper,but for most of us it may as well have been happening in another country.A picture and name of the victim,yellow police tape and a cop looking down at a body covered with a tarp,and hey what's for dessert? |
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Posted: 4/18/2017 1:15:50 PM EDT
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I expressed myself poorly. Why are we so obsessed with murder in the first place? Why are we so obsessed with guns? Why are we so obsessed with making retarded threads? |
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Posted: 4/18/2017 1:34:39 PM EDT
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People in general are fascinated with mortality; their own, and others'.
The "Faces of Death" videos were big sellers in their day. People simply can't drive past a bad accident without craning their necks to see if maybe a detached leg or arm or something is lying around. And people don't watch NASCAR for the good-natured competition - it's because they're doing something dangerous, and they wanna see the wreck. It's prevalent enough that it must be normal. Probably a survival instinct... "don't let this happen to you..." |
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Posted: 4/18/2017 1:40:00 PM EDT
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Nah, I admit to visiting r/watchpeopledie (def. NSFW) on a regular basis. ISIS executions, cartel tortures, and industrial mistakes got nothing on this murder. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You must be new to the Internet. ISIS executions, cartel tortures, and industrial mistakes got nothing on this murder. |
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Posted: 4/18/2017 1:41:13 PM EDT
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Jesus fucking Christ, the old dude is just walking down the street minding his own business. By the looks of him he looks like he wouldn't hurt a fly. The last person in the world who'd deserve a bullet to the brain. Poor old dude didn't deserve that at all.
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Posted: 4/18/2017 1:50:53 PM EDT
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I expressed myself poorly. Why are we so obsessed with murder in the first place? |
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Posted: 4/18/2017 2:59:04 PM EDT
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Why are we so obsessed with dudes who wear dresses? Why are we so obsessed with guns? Why are we so obsessed with making retarded threads? 
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Posted: 4/18/2017 3:04:56 PM EDT
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I'm surprised that more nut jobs are videoing their crimes and putting them on Facebook........people are retarded....even more so if they are criminals.
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Posted: 4/18/2017 3:05:04 PM EDT
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Just a future FYI, people you see killed on TV shows don't really get killed. It's not real. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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...when every other show on TV depicts a murder? We watch murders for entertainment. I know it isn't the same thing, but it sure makes me wonder. Just a future FYI, people you see killed on TV shows don't really get killed. It's not real. |
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Posted: 4/18/2017 3:11:11 PM EDT
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Fake murder on tv = Great entertainment.
Real murder everywhere = Yawn. Real murder on Facebook = Hysteria. Seeing it happen didn't make it any more real than all the rest of the murders in the news this weekend. Actually, it probably wouldn't have been as big of a story if they had not initially reported that it was streamed live. It would have been just another video of someone getting killed, and just another murder in Cleveland. This will be an episode on Law and Order in no time at all. |
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Posted: 4/18/2017 3:11:29 PM EDT
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I'm surprised that more nut jobs are videoing their crimes and putting them on Facebook........people are retarded....even more so if they are criminals.
There have been rapes,suicides,and now a murder live streamed-I don't see it going away. |
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Posted: 4/18/2017 3:17:27 PM EDT
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Fake murder on tv = Great entertainment. Real murder everywhere = Yawn. Real murder on Facebook = Hysteria. Seeing it happen didn't make it any more real than all the rest of the murders in the news this weekend. Actually, it probably wouldn't have been as big of a story if they had not initially reported that it was streamed live. It would have been just another video of someone getting killed, and just another murder in Cleveland. This will be an episode on Law and Order in no time at all. Anyone remember the movie "Untraceable"?I could see that happening for real
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Posted: 4/18/2017 3:21:07 PM EDT
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Facebook is supposed to be a safe space, yo.
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