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Link Posted: 12/14/2013 9:16:50 AM EDT
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Started with the early 60's and hasn't peaked yet.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 9:16:53 AM EDT
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Early 20th century.  Read up on the income tax and the New Deal.


Link Posted: 12/14/2013 9:18:49 AM EDT
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When did America go from becoming a conservative nation to a liberal nation?
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Process started with the Progressives before WW I and came to a head in the late-50s/early-60s with the Warren Court.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 9:19:17 AM EDT
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It really started in the 50-60's with the civil rights movement and the whole 'peace and love accept everything and everyone' mentality.  Not saying that those are bad things in all cases, but that's where it all started.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 9:21:16 AM EDT
[#5]
Teddy Rooselvelt really got the ball rolling....Woodrow Wilson helped quite a bit too...
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 9:21:39 AM EDT
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True things have turned upside down but the classic liberal mentality of the founders of this country is not fully represented by either modern liberals or conservatives.   More so by small "l" libertarians.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 9:22:31 AM EDT
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The US was founded on Liberal ideals.

The Loyalists were Conservatives.
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Classic Liberalism and Modern Liberalism are polar opposites.  Probably would have been good to point this out, or were you trying to arouse a response?
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 9:23:01 AM EDT
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Wilson planted the seeds.
FDR watered the seeds.
LBJ harvested the seeds.

Link Posted: 12/14/2013 9:39:51 AM EDT
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The terminology is, well, wrong.  That's because the terminology has been hijacked.

The question should be, "When did the United States become majority Progressive?"

"Liberal" in its original meaning meant "In favor of individual liberty," and the nation started out on that footing (please spare me the "so long as you were a White Christian male" rhetoric - historical perspective, people.)

Marx's Communist Manifesto was published in 1848, and had made its way around the intellectual world by the late 19th century.  It strongly influenced the movers and shakers in Europe and here, and is largely responsible for the burst of "Progressive" amendments to the Constitution that took place in the very early 20th Century - Income tax, February 1913; Direct election of Senators, May 1913; Prohibition, January 1920; and Women's Suffrage, August 1920.

The election of Woodrow Wilson in 1913 corresponded to the rise of Progressivism - and illustrated that Progressivism is anything but "liberal."

Once the majority of the public understood this, the Left dropped the "Progressive" label and suborned "liberal" as their own.  Now that we grasp that "liberal" isn't, they're switching back to "Progressive."

It's been a long, slow crunch since then - what italian Communist Antonio Gramsci termed "the long march through the institutions" - education, media, politics.

When was I sure that Progressivism had become dominant?  

When Barack Obama got RE-elected.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 9:48:20 AM EDT
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The terminology is, well, wrong.  That's because the terminology has been hijacked.

The question should be, "When did the United States become majority Progressive?"

"Liberal" in its original meaning meant "In favor of individual liberty," and the nation started out on that footing (please spare me the "so long as you were a White Christian male" rhetoric - historical perspective, people.)

Marx's Communist Manifesto was published in 1848, and had made its way around the intellectual world by the late 19th century.  It strongly influenced the movers and shakers in Europe and here, and is largely responsible for the burst of "Progressive" amendments to the Constitution that took place in the very early 20th Century - Income tax, February 1913; Direct election of Senators, May 1913; Prohibition, January 1920; and Women's Suffrage, August 1920.

The election of Woodrow Wilson in 1913 corresponded to the rise of Progressivism - and illustrated that Progressivism is anything but "liberal."

Once the majority of the public understood this, the Left dropped the "Progressive" label and suborned "liberal" as their own.  Now that we grasp that "liberal" isn't, they're switching back to "Progressive."

It's been a long, slow crunch since then - what italian Communist Antonio Gramsci termed "the long march through the institutions" - education, media, politics.

When was I sure that Progressivism had become dominant?  

When Barack Obama got RE-elected.
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Obama got re-elected because the alternative was a Mormon who found a way to make everyone hate him.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 9:54:22 AM EDT
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Fuck LBJ and his great society bullshit.

He sent us down the road to ruin.
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This. LBJ is to blame. I believe he started the movement with



“I'll have those niggers voting Democratic for the next 200 years. [Touting his underlying intentions for the "Great Society" programs, LBJ confided with two like-minded governors on Air Force One]”
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 10:00:35 AM EDT
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plenty of socialist type programs came out of the 30's.... however the recent spike of lefty-ism is definitely a result of the Bush years.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 10:00:40 AM EDT
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Obama got re-elected because the alternative was a Mormon who found a way to make everyone hate him.
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Obama got re-elected because the alternative was a Mormon who found a way to make everyone hate him.
With Affordable Care Act, Canceled Policies for New York Professionals
It is not lost on many of the professionals that they are exactly the sort of people — liberal, concerned with social justice — who supported the Obama health plan in the first place. Ms. Meinwald, the lawyer, said she was a lifelong Democrat who still supported better health care for all, but had she known what was in store for her, she would have voted for Mitt Romney.

It is an uncomfortable position for many members of the creative classes to be in.
Obama got reelected because a large portion of the voting population believed (and most still do) the Progressive bullshit they've been fed since birth - a large portion of which is "Republicans are evil and want you to die."

And don't for a second think that Progressivism hasn't gotten it's tentacles into the movers and shakers of the GOP - remember "compassionate conservatism"?
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 10:06:44 AM EDT
[#14]
Little by little...
That's why that call it progressivism...
but it was 1963 when they were delivered the presidency.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 10:09:34 AM EDT
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June 7, 1899
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 10:40:33 AM EDT
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I find the LBJ/60's hippies responses interesting.

It's not that I disagree with the notion that was a turning point, a bigger one than most realize because the rejection of Goldwater by the right was a significant event as well, but even leaving the Wilson administration aside the progressives had been in power for 30 years almost completely uninterrupted (other than Ike, which was more personal than philosophical as I understand it).
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 10:54:12 AM EDT
[#17]
It began immediately and has been snowballing ever since.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 10:55:43 AM EDT
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17th amendment
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 10:57:26 AM EDT
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The US was founded on Liberal ideals.

The Loyalists were Conservatives.



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Hey! You stay outta here with your whole words meaning what they actually mean bullshit.  If you don't, I'm gonna start filling my sentences 1/2 full of motherfucking fractions!  

I'm already 1/32 of the way there! Wazzaaa!

Link Posted: 12/14/2013 10:58:13 AM EDT
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Very close.  Had you picked the 16th amendment, you would have been closer.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 11:07:07 AM EDT
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The turn started in the 70's when the hippies started getting jobs, mainly in the government and schools. They could then start injecting their ideas from the inside. They just keep things moving in the direction they want, just a little bit at a time, just like the frog in the pot. Now we are into the third generation on liberals in government, so now things are accelerating.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 11:10:58 AM EDT
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With the birth of progressivism so before 1930s. Just my thoughts.
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Yep.



Right after Prohibition was repealed. Socialists like FDR got tired of having to amend the Constitution every time they wanted to violate it, so they just started "interpreting" it to mean whatever they wanted it to mean. And if SCOTUS didn't go along, FDR was prepared to force them to go along.
 
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 11:19:46 AM EDT
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It started the day after the constitution was signed.  One person, resigned to screw it all up, and he began spreading those ideas to whoever would listen.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 11:54:35 AM EDT
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Classic Liberalism and Modern American Liberalism are polar opposites.  Probably would have been good to point this out, or were you trying to arouse a response?
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The US was founded on Liberal ideals.

The Loyalists were Conservatives.


Classic Liberalism and Modern American Liberalism are polar opposites.  Probably would have been good to point this out, or were you trying to arouse a response?

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