shhhhhhhhhhhhhh

wow, that guy is a grade a douche canoe.  

So HPA will actually help save lives because it decreases accuracy. They need to run with that.

and yet they want to equip every Marine rifleman with one....


To Save Our Soldier's and Police Officer's Hearing hence the HPA or Hearing Protection Act

The expert is a crook conning the government out of the tax payers money...wonder which politicians he kicks back to?

Thanks OP.  The best rebuttal to a democrat is the truth.

You know, when I was stationed in D.C. and was investigating one of the high profile murders that had just happened there no more than a mile from my duty station, when interviewing one of the people closely associated with the first responders who arrived on the scene of the deceased, that very sense of your phrase ominously pervaded my being.

It was one of the darkest feelings I've ever had, learning what I did.

You can now understand why retired agent and lead salesman for ShotSpotter, David Chipman, had such a sense of doom and gloom regarding suppressors.

It isn't just that he leans to government confiscation and regulation of individual rights WRT to arms and accessories, but more important for him and his company, they would have to invest substantial time, effort, and resources into developing the sensors and software to attenuate to suppressed gunshot signatures.

After the past 2 years of their losses, they launched their IPO in June to help infuse cash.  They lost $6.13 million in 2015, and $6.86 million in 2016.

Understanding those facts helps explain why Chipman had such a bleak and dire outlook on life as it relates to suppressors.

In reality, even the ATF's own senior leadership says they're open to reevaluating inclusion of suppressors on the NFA registry, because they just don't see a lot of issues with them, recommending prosecution only 44 times a year, where only 6 of the defendants on average have a prior felony conviction for some other crime.  That seems to indicate prosecution recommendations for people who have manufactured a suppressor who otherwise are not felonious offenders until they cross the line and make a sound moderator.

Well, to be perfectly objective about it, putting people in jail for making a suppressor is about as insane as putting people in jail for making a car muffler.

In some ways, we live in Brazil (the movie) and we take it for granted because of how long these dumb laws have been on the books.

When I was explaining the issue and history to some of the Congressional aides today, they all seemed to agree these laws are so antiquated, that they at least need some type of review.

Suppressors weren't even discussed or debated on for the 1934, they just got thrown in there for some reason, which seems to have been mitigating poaching, not taking away tools for assassins (ludicrous concept).

The ATF themselves don't give a crap about suppressors, and I think the branch of people who review Form 4 submissions would be happy to dump the workload for Machinegun and DD approvals anyway.

I can attest that a suppressor would have zero impact on causing more or less gun crime.  There is no data to support or discredit anyone attempting to relate crime associated with suppresors.  Much also applies to how often a semi auto rifle being used in crimes.  

Anyone famiiar enough with suppresors and intent to use a firearm equipped with one in a crime wouldn't worry about legally acquiring one today. Furthermore suppresors are legal to posses. It's the NFA that unnecessarily delays and hinders an citizen from acquiring one.  

But his "expert" opinion comes from an agency that conceived Fast and Furious.

Thanks for the info

I have always told my boys, follow the money and you will find the truth

I have always told my boys, follow the money and you will find the truth

Are you visiting DC?

Great work LRRPF52.  Thank you for what you do.

So in light of this, do you think that HPA still has a chance?

Wasn't shotspotter used in Iraq as well?

What a ho.  People will say just about anything if there's enough money on the line.

Second. Thank you for fighting the good fight that some of us can't devote the time to.

No, just looked at everyone on some of the key committees and Democrat Reps in key States where we can make a difference.

One important approach to use is to be genuine and be polite with the Congressional aides and staffers.

These people literally wouldn't know what a suppressor is, and most of them are not aware of the merits of the laws, nor do they know how their Reps actually stand on most of their positions unless it's a big issue.

I took the time to explain the history of how suppressors were placed on the NFA, the considerations of the Great Depression, and that suppressors weren't even debated at the time.  I then explain how in my mom's home country where gun laws are very strict, that suppressors aren't even regulated, nor are they regulated in many other nations where you can't even legally own a handgun, but because of reasons that are not even clear to those of us who have studied the issue, we have to submit fingerprint cards and passport photos plus a $200 Federal Stamp Tax fee that was meant to keep guns out of the hands of gangsters in the 1930s, just to put a sound moderator/muffler on the end of our guns so we don't hurt our hunting animals' ears, or go deaf if we have to protect ourselves in our homes during a home invasion.

Several of the Democrat staffers (mostly young women), commented, "That's a really antiquated law."  They were also surprised to learn than David Chipman didn't disclose his financial and employment relationship with ShotSpotter.

Outstanding work LRRPF52. 

Thanks for sharing. 

This brings up an interesting point (to me).  Some of the democrats are willing to waiver on this issue. When I told my Dad that I was getting one, but I wouldn't have it in time to bring it up for Christmas...his response was "you'd better not bring it up here."  He then sent me the link below and said "disregard my last," lol.  

NH HB500: New Hampshire: Governor Signs Suppressor Legislation

San Francisco Chronicle worried

Pro-gun laws on the move that would loosen restrictions on silencers, concealed carry, hunting https://t.co/SfmTQa7tyc via @carolynlochhead

Demian Bulwa  (@demianbulwa) October 1, 2017

It bothers me greatly that the people listening to Mr. Chipman didn`t know enough to tell him to sit down and shut up.

They called him in as an expert witness.

Why would they tell him to shut up?

ShotSpotter is on its way into profitability now.  I'm sure the contracts will flow in like wine.

I don't have a clue what you said, but I vehemently disagree in the strongest manner possible.

ShotSpotter Soars on Las Vegas and Congressional Change of Heart

I wonder how many Senators and Congressrats invested in SSTI as soon as it went with IPO?