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Posted: 7/16/2005 1:46:22 PM EDT
There has been a lot of heated debate about Pit Bulls here on Arfcom, which is surprising to me. I grew up in a very liberal community, and it has been my experience that liberals are the ones who want everything banned, including Pit Bulls. I was shocked to see how many ARFCOMMERS are basically the equivalent of Dianne Feinstein when it comes to breed-specific dog bans.
The purpose of this thread is not to debate the issue. HERE is one thread where you can debate, and of course Vito113's thread from a couple of days ago. It's only to determine ARFCOM'S official position on this issue. So, where do you stand on this issue? 1 - BAN THEM 2- DON'T BAN THEM |
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they are evil and must be banned for the children.
stupid owners will be shot at dawn. ETA: I've met several mushy pitbulls with good owners and fucked up pitbulls with asshole owners |
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Anybody who wanted to pass a law that made any breed of dogs verboten is a complete failure.
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+1 |
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I do not think they should be banned.
I do wish people would quit breeding them and quit buying them. Then in about 10-20 years they would cease to exist. That would not bother me one bit. |
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I've met some very nice pit bulls, as well as nice Rottweillers, German Shephards, etc. However, pit bulls tend to attract a certain type of owner, usually ghetto thugs, white trash, or people with an inferiority complex. They raise and breed aggressive dogs. Pit Bulls seem to be being bred for more aggression, and "bling".
Semper Fi |
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I love my pit bull and plan on buying another when he passes. The breed of dog isn't the problem, it's the people who raise them badly. Anyone who wants to ban all pit bulls yet thinks we should all be able to own firearms, should look in the mirror.
Guns/dogs are not the problem, it's the bad owners/breeders. |
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Fucking right. +100 |
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It might be difficult to ban them unless they have breeding that is documented. It could end up that you would just have to ban dogs that have certain "evil features" and we saw how that worked out.
Regards, Mild Bill |
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Pit bulls are some of the best dogs around, if they're had by responsible owners. All the pit bulls that make the news for mauling kids and stuff are aggressive because they were raised improperly. Just my .02
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There would be pre-ban PB's and post-ban PB's. |
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pits make for great pets. just like any dog, beat it and its will be mean. the difference is that a pit bull has the brawn to take a chunk out of your hide if you raise it to be a mean dog.
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Higher insurance and taxes than what you already pay in NJ is simply impossible! |
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I'd like to see a 10 year ban, with a sunset provision. Ban pit bulls with spiked collars and sharp teeth.
I voted "no", btw. Anymore, I get the feeling that the only difference between some of you "conservatives" and your liberal enemies lies in what you want banned or restricted. Freedom loving, my ass. |
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The "official arfcom position" of pit bulls is similar to our official position on the Civil War, the USS Liberty and Evolution. |
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I agree and the owner as well |
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I am just joking around, my statement kind of a run over from another topic about smoking. But you are right about the taxes in nj. I do think that some type of liability insurance should be carried for animal attacks |
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how many people are killed by the irresponsible ownership of pitbulls every year? how many people are killed by irresponsible ownership of guns every year? get the point? This is America, freedom has its price
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Just saw one killed on the freeway. Mean looking cuss. Damn tough dogs though.
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Havent had enough time Yet ! |
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40% voted yes and no one will own up to it...
You probably think its a good thing evil machine guns are banned too... |
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Yup. If you're into banning evil machine guns, you're a liberal. If you want to ban smoking, offensive TV, violent movies, porn, alcohol, or even baby killing pitbulls, you're a conservative. Freedom means controlling what other people do, as long as what you do is OK. Honeslty, you'd think there'd be more conservatives on a gun board. I suppose there's plenty, as long as conservatism is defined as being a gun owning Republican. |
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Tread lightly. A certain Staff Member has and loves American Pit Bulls.
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Due to recent events not my favorite breed. Ban them out right no.
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So then what breed next?
I can raise a Boxer to kill intruders too. Or a Shar-Pei. Or a Doberman. Husky. Wolfhound. Etc, etc, etc..... Banning things like a breed of dog is asinine and it's taking the "easy way out" while never solving the underlying problem. At some point there will be a list of everything banned that exceeds the things that aren't banned. Wonder if we will feel safer and more free then? |
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I couldn't agree with you more on the above comment. It's amazing how many people here talk about freedom, but are willing to ban things THEY don't like. My pit bull is no more dangerous than any of the firearms the people here own. Your guns can kill people. My pit bull can kill people. All the people who voted yes, PLEASE explain to me why my dog should be banned and you firearms shouldn't? |
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I hate Pits.
I say don't ban them but do require their perspective owners to be carefully screened before ownership and require insurance coverage that specifically covers their lovable and loyal destructive device should they suddenly tweak out and attack someone. Pits I think have a place in life like all pets but suburbia is not IMO one of them. |
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Dont think they should be banned......but I wouldn't care if they and all other shit head breeds were reduced down to fish farm meal
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Let me ask you this then, Do you believe that all gun owners should have to carry extra liability insurance incase they "tweak out and" shoot someone? As to the screening process, thats not all that bad of an idea, but lets make sure every pet owner has to do it. there are alot of bad pet owners, not just pit owners. I know locally anyway, that if you adopt from the humane society or the county animal control, you have to get interviewed, and would gladly do it. Again, some people here think that as long as the things they own/like are "OK", everything else can be banned. I will never understand how some people here can complain about liberals wanting to take their rights and freedoms, yet feel they are just in doing it to other people using the same mentality as the liberals. |
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Don't think for a second that our guberment won't outlaw a species of animal. They've outlawed species of plants for decades now.
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Pit Bulls are wimpy dogs just like all other dogs. It's asshole pit bull owners that train them to be mean. That are the ones to be banned/excuted. Dogs of all kind are cool! |
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