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Posted: 9/10/2010 7:14:28 PM EDT

[#1]

I do grow some vegetables in my home garden and yes home grown tastes good - in fact better than expensive organic from the store.
I do not buy that store expensive organic food.

http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/features/organic-food-better

Posted: 9/10/2010 7:14:40 PM EDT

[#2]

I like to know what the fuck I put into my body

Preservatives, chemicals etc etc arent fucking good for you dingus

Posted: 9/10/2010 7:15:42 PM EDT

[#3]

Had a friend that ate organic food for 1 year. He wasn't your typical hippie type at all...

He said that he had never felt better in his life. Always full of energy... but it was costly.

Posted: 9/10/2010 7:21:38 PM EDT

[#4]

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What is it with people who want to buy food with a bunch of unnatural garbage in it? That's why I like hunting, because I know that shit isn't tainted with a bunch of shit. Some seriously illogical posts in this thread. "Shut up and eat food with a bunch of BS chemicals and hormones in it."

are you suggesting that being organic means there are no "bullshit chemicals" present? If so i suggest you do a little personal research into legal "organic" definitions, organic pesticides, carcinogens in organic insecticides, and effectiveness of organic v synthetic pest control.

Posted: 9/10/2010 7:26:44 PM EDT

[#5]

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What is it with people who want to buy food with a bunch of unnatural garbage in it? That's why I like hunting, because I know that shit isn't tainted with a bunch of shit. Some seriously illogical posts in this thread. "Shut up and eat food with a bunch of BS chemicals and hormones in it."

are you suggesting that being organic means there are no "bullshit chemicals" present? If so i suggest you do a little personal research into legal "organic" definitions, organic pesticides, carcinogens in organic insecticides, and effectiveness of organic v synthetic pest control.

Yep - I have no more to add...

ETA: Other than if you want true organic - grow it yourself!!!

Posted: 9/10/2010 7:30:46 PM EDT

[#6]

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What is it with people who want to buy food with a bunch of unnatural garbage in it? That's why I like hunting, because I know that shit isn't tainted with a bunch of shit. Some seriously illogical posts in this thread. "Shut up and eat food with a bunch of BS chemicals and hormones in it."

What do you think the deer are eating to get so big and strong? Here's a hint, its evil GMO High Fructose corn and soybeans

Plus, animals that have received anti-botics can't be butchered till the drugs are out of their system, but don't let silly facts ruin your smugness.

Posted: 9/10/2010 7:43:21 PM EDT

[#7]

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Placebo. It makes people feel better just because it's different.

I bought a sack of "regular" carrots, and a sack of "organic" carrots. Made some carrot juice from each. Did a taste test on some unsuspecting victims. They all thought the organic tasted better. I didn't even tell them one was organic and one was not... score one for organic carrots

I will pay more for tastier food, but I won't pay more for the "organic" label in and of itself.

Posted: 9/10/2010 7:53:32 PM EDT

[#8]

Go watch Food INC. and tell me you don't think different about your food.

The big thing for me is why do beef farmers feed cows corn, and feed, when they could just graze/fertalize land and then be slaughtered? Cows get diseases in their stomachs because of the corn, these diseases are then passed to humans.

I know for a fact that high fructose corn syrup and other man made crap can cause changes in how and what you can eat. My dad can not eat half the stuff most people would eat on a daily basis. He gets extreme stomach pains, and other digestive issues from eating something like a beer and some pizza. It could lay him out for a day or two. No joke. The doctors don't even know what to do to help it. Honestly it's bad two doctors thought he was having heart attacks.

Everything in moderation, including moderation.

Posted: 9/10/2010 8:11:46 PM EDT

[#9]

Food inc is retarded.

Posted: 9/10/2010 8:13:34 PM EDT

[#10]

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trendy.

First post and all that. It's so people can feel smug and good about themselves for attaching an empty label on something that doesn't really matter.

Posted: 9/10/2010 8:18:03 PM EDT

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Posted: 9/10/2010 8:19:09 PM EDT

[#12]

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I'm more interested in the macros/health aspects of a food. Quite frequently, organics are healthier than their conventional counterparts.

For example, I love most of this company's foods: http://www.kashi.com/

Got a study that bears that out? I've seen plenty of stories that organics haven't shown to be healthier by reputable scientists...and some organic products may pose a greater risk of bacteria from manure (as well as livestock that's non-processed). Never seen credible evidence of the contrary.

Posted: 9/10/2010 8:20:19 PM EDT

[#13]

I buy "organic" milk. It doesn't make any sense but for some reason it seems to keep longer than normal milk.

ETA: Nevermind, it does make sense I just looked it up.

Posted: 9/10/2010 8:23:22 PM EDT

[#14]

Organic itself is a bit of a scam, but many brands of organic prepared foods are quite good.

I don't care that the veggies or meat they use is organic, but I like that they also happen to use a lot of quality ingredients & leave out the crap like HFCS. They could do the same thing with non-organic base ingredients and I would be just as happy with it.

Posted: 9/10/2010 8:24:29 PM EDT

[#15]

Bull Shit! No watch Penn and Teller bullshit about organic food....hummmm....

Posted: 9/10/2010 8:28:09 PM EDT

[#16]

Organic food reminds me of the New York Yankees: On its own, its better... but the fans are fucking douchebags.
You cannot argue that food loaded with pesticides and bullshit are better for you than the natural shit that has gotten us through millions of years of evolution. Current agricultural technology is based on quantity, not quality. I have a buddy that went from 250+ lbs to 170 lbs by simply eating right, and that was by switching over to organic foods and watching his portions.
I'm a hardcore capitalist, but arguing about the bottom dollar of a food company is a whole different ballgame from talking about healthy choices.

- BG

Posted: 9/10/2010 8:30:40 PM EDT

[#17]

If you believe that genetically engineered food is bad for you (crops creating their own pesticdes, plants that don't reproduce, etc) then eating organic food is your only choice.

Would you feel weird eating food from 1920?

Posted: 9/10/2010 8:31:56 PM EDT

[#18]

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Organic itself is a bit of a scam, but many brands of organic prepared foods are quite good.

I don't care that the veggies or meat they use is organic, but I like that they also happen to use a lot of quality ingredients & leave out the crap like HFCS. They could do the same thing with non-organic base ingredients and I would be just as happy with it.

Getting rid of processed bullshit will do 10X more good than simply ditching pesticides on your fresh veggies.

Pure organic diets are a lifestyle, not a matter of grabbing more expensive tomatoes.

I can't think of a single thing I eat that doesn't have some sort of processed bullshit in it. Your meats, your cheeses, your veggies, your fruits... everything has something God/nature did not intend for your to digest in it.

- BG

Posted: 9/10/2010 8:36:23 PM EDT

[#19]

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I'm more interested in the macros/health aspects of a food. Quite frequently, organics are healthier than their conventional counterparts.

For example, I love most of this company's foods: http://www.kashi.com/

Got a study that bears that out? I've seen plenty of stories that organics haven't shown to be healthier by reputable scientists...and some organic products may pose a greater risk of bacteria from manure (as well as livestock that's non-processed). Never seen credible evidence of the contrary.

Guess who funds a lot of those studies?

Posted: 9/10/2010 8:42:26 PM EDT

[#20]

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Organic food reminds me of the New York Yankees: On its own, its better... but the fans are fucking douchebags.

You cannot argue that food loaded with pesticides and bullshit are better for you than the natural shit that has gotten us through millions of years of evolution. Current agricultural technology is based on quantity, not quality. I have a buddy that went from 250+ lbs to 170 lbs by simply eating right, and that was by switching over to organic foods and watching his portions.

I'm a hardcore capitalist, but arguing about the bottom dollar of a food company is a whole different ballgame from talking about healthy choices.

- BG

Sorry - I say bullshit!!!
His weight loss had nothing to do with organic vs commercial grown food, it had all to do with his amount of intake (of whatever he ate) and his exercise regime.....!!!

Posted: 9/10/2010 8:48:53 PM EDT

[#21]

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I'm more interested in the macros/health aspects of a food. Quite frequently, organics are healthier than their conventional counterparts.

For example, I love most of this company's foods: http://www.kashi.com/

Got a study that bears that out? I've seen plenty of stories that organics haven't shown to be healthier by reputable scientists...and some organic products may pose a greater risk of bacteria from manure (as well as livestock that's non-processed). Never seen credible evidence of the contrary.

swing you are right about the dubious nature of health claims that circulate around organic products, especially produce.

I can tell you, though, that i went on a quest to find the best breakfast for my diet. Kashi cereal is by far the best (balance of health and taste) cereal i could find. complex carbs from whole grains, fiber, 13 g protein, not much fat or sugar. 140 calories for a 1 cup serving. It is a very satisfying bowl of cereal too. I have started my day with this stuff every day for the last 3 months, and it has been a very important part of what so far has been a very successful diet and fitness regimen .

Posted: 9/10/2010 8:56:32 PM EDT

[#22]

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I'm more interested in the macros/health aspects of a food. Quite frequently, organics are healthier than their conventional counterparts.

For example, I love most of this company's foods: http://www.kashi.com/

Got a study that bears that out? I've seen plenty of stories that organics haven't shown to be healthier by reputable scientists...and some organic products may pose a greater risk of bacteria from manure (as well as livestock that's non-processed). Never seen credible evidence of the contrary.

Guess who funds a lot of those studies?

If I give you $5 to study the clock, and you report that the big hand goes around every 60 minutes, does this invalidate the data or the conclusion because I own a clock company?

Is there science anywhere, any legitimate counter by reputable scientists who apparently on the dole to Big Food (hehe), that refutes the findings of the dozens of studies funded by the evil conglomerates (or whatever your boogey man is)??

One of the beauties of science is its findings are often peer reviewed, repeatable, correctable.

Where's some studies that show the health advantages of organics?

Posted: 9/10/2010 8:56:59 PM EDT

[#23]

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Organic food reminds me of the New York Yankees: On its own, its better... but the fans are fucking douchebags.
You cannot argue that food loaded with pesticides and bullshit are better for you than the natural shit that has gotten us through millions of years of evolution. Current agricultural technology is based on quantity, not quality. I have a buddy that went from 250+ lbs to 170 lbs by simply eating right, and that was by switching over to organic foods and watching his portions.
I'm a hardcore capitalist, but arguing about the bottom dollar of a food company is a whole different ballgame from talking about healthy choices.

- BG

Sorry - I say bullshit!!!

His weight loss had nothing to do with organic vs commercial grown food, it had all to do with his amount of intake (of whatever he ate) and his exercise regime.....!!!

Switching to organic caused him to to avoid any processed bullshit. All of that premade bullshit went out the window.

It did wonders. Read your ingredients labels. On a true organic diet, I'm guessing you couldn't consume 95% of the bullshit your normally do.

I'm not sure if he ever spent an hour at a gym, either.

- BG

Posted: 9/10/2010 9:00:09 PM EDT

[#24]

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No High Fructose Corn Syrup.

Organic = less processed crap and less GM corn and soy and their byproducts (which fill nearly every single thing we eat).

Posted: 9/10/2010 9:01:44 PM EDT

[#25]

Organic: relating or belonging to the class of chemical compounds having a carbon basis;

That being said anyone who buys shit cause OMG ITS ORGANIC AND SHIT deserves what they get....

Now if you will excuse me I need to go fill my truck up with some ORGANIC gasoline...

Posted: 9/10/2010 9:03:38 PM EDT

[#26]

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What is it with people who want to buy food with a bunch of unnatural garbage in it? That's why I like hunting, because I know that shit isn't tainted with a bunch of shit. Some seriously illogical posts in this thread. "Shut up and eat food with a bunch of BS chemicals and hormones in it."

are you suggesting that being organic means there are no "bullshit chemicals" present? If so i suggest you do a little personal research into legal "organic" definitions, organic pesticides, carcinogens in organic insecticides, and effectiveness of organic v synthetic pest control.

This!!!! X 1000!!!!

For all you organic wine drinkers read up on copper sulfate and then decide if organic is any safer. Pesticides today are tested and screened on the crops they are labeled for and that includes residue testing. You simply can not get a product labeled without it meeting the EPA residue requirements. Copper sulfate is an old product that is organic but it is toxic to many things in the environment. Of course toxicity is dose related for all pesticides but even some organic ones can be nasty. It is a very common fungicide in organic crops like grapes.

Copper Sulfate Oral LD50 for Rats is 300 mg/kg and the product goes on in lbs to the acre.
Pristine fungicide, a modern synthesized fungicide, Oral LD50 for Rats is 2000mg/kg of body weight and goes on in ounces per acre.

What's that?????? A man made pesticide is safer than an organic pesticide???? Oh it can't be true! But it is! And this is just one example.

Posted: 9/10/2010 9:05:36 PM EDT

[#27]

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One of my friends is a Cocktail Waitress at one of the local casinos. . .

When we go out, she is constantly bantering about how she won't eat anything that isn't "organic." She does look well but is the type of person that is always applying makeup and lip gloss. . .She spends a ton of money on purchasing "organic" only.

I grew up on a ranch that grew peaches, plums, grapes and nectarines. . .

When we go varmint hunting, the place we hunt on grows "organic" alfalfa. They aren't allowed to use pesticides. We come in and throw at least 500 rounds of lead per day trying to do a bit of pest control.

What is it with this "organic" thing?

I like to point out to these fine people that cyanide, anthrax, an bleach are also organic....

Actually bleach is an inorganic compound.

Posted: 9/10/2010 9:06:03 PM EDT

[#28]

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One of my friends is a Cocktail Waitress at one of the local casinos. . .

When we go out, she is constantly bantering about how she won't eat anything that isn't "organic." She does look well but is the type of person that is always applying makeup and lip gloss. . .She spends a ton of money on purchasing "organic" only.

I grew up on a ranch that grew peaches, plums, grapes and nectarines. . .

When we go varmint hunting, the place we hunt on grows "organic" alfalfa. They aren't allowed to use pesticides. We come in and throw at least 500 rounds of lead per day trying to do a bit of pest control.

What is it with this "organic" thing?

$$

Posted: 9/10/2010 9:07:03 PM EDT

[#29]

What's that word? Oh yeah, it's hip.

Posted: 9/10/2010 9:15:05 PM EDT

[#30]

Organic is a racket. Fresh food = good. Organic farms are typically smaller, and thus market locally/regionally, which means less time in handling/warehousing/transit, which means fresher. So, organic is typically fresh, so organic is typically good, so whatever. There's no huge conclusions to be drawn there.

The one part where I start rolling my eyes is with organic livestock. Great, I'm eating a sick animal because the farmer couldn't treat it with actual medicine. Sorry, antibiotics don't bother me. I like the idea of eating healthy animals. The flip side, is that I prefer to know how my meat was processed, and not wonder if it was scraped off the floor by illegals with scoop shovels. So yeah, I'm not afraid to buy meat at the grocery store, but I like the idea of eating critters I have shot, or getting custom-processed beef locally. My wife is all excited about the whole "grass-fed" beef thing, so we've got a quarter of that coming next month from a local farm. Some people say it tastes different, some say you can't tell if they do it "right". I'll be curious to see if I can tell a significant difference.

Posted: 9/10/2010 9:20:59 PM EDT

[#31]

My wife is such an Organic Kool-Aid drinker that she quit watching Penn & Teller's Bullshit! after they fucking gutted the whole organic craze in one of their shows.

I prefer stuff like grass fed beef and chicken that I raised outside and let have forage and fresh eggs and stuff, but even my home raised stuff can't be considered organic.

Posted: 9/10/2010 9:21:09 PM EDT

[#32]

Tag for later and I will tell you all about the sham of organics.

Posted: 9/10/2010 9:21:48 PM EDT

[#33]

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Switching to organic caused him to to avoid any processed bullshit. All of that premade bullshit went out the window.

I don't think so tim. This is exactally the kind of logic that confounds this entire issue. If you eat an organic apple instead of a bag of Doritos, its healthier. It is not healthier because the apple is organic and the Doritos are not, it is healthier because apple is an apple and the Doritos are Doritos.

It is great that your pal improved his diet and lost weight. Alot of people need to follow that example. But you cant sit here and claim it was because of organic food when you are comparing to processed food products. There are plenty of organic processed foods. organic and "processed" are not mutually exclusive. I shop at a super market that only sells organic foods, and there is a shit-ton of chips, snack food, cookies, deserts, soda, canned soup, pre-made dinners, ect. You name the junk food, and there is an organic equivalent.

The point is, your friend did not lose weight because he switched from inorganic to organic food. He lost weight because he switched from unhealthy inorganic food to healthy organic food.

Posted: 9/10/2010 9:24:14 PM EDT

[#34]

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Tag for later and I will tell you all about the sham of organics.

Tagged.

Posted: 9/10/2010 9:39:05 PM EDT

[#35]

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My wife is such an Organic Kool-Aid drinker that she quit watching Penn & Teller's Bullshit! after they fucking gutted the whole organic craze in one of their shows.

I prefer stuff like grass fed beef and chicken that I raised outside and let have forage and fresh eggs and stuff, but even my home raised stuff can't be considered organic.

This

I grew up on grassfed beef and chickens. Throw in an occasional pig and a very failed attempt at sheep, and two Guernsey milkers and that was my meats, eggs and dairy. There aint nothing like warm milk straight from the cow in your cheerios in the morning.

What people call organic today was called being poor 30 years ago

Posted: 9/10/2010 9:40:05 PM EDT

[#36]

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Well, it does usually taste better than the plastic food I used to buy.

Zero proof of this.

Posted: 9/10/2010 9:40:50 PM EDT

[#37]

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I'm more interested in the macros/health aspects of a food. Quite frequently, organics are healthier than their conventional counterparts.

For example, I love most of this company's foods: http://www.kashi.com/

Negaitve.

Orgaincs have no greater nutrional value than conventional.

Posted: 9/10/2010 9:40:55 PM EDT

[#38]

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... why do beef farmers feed cows corn, and feed, when they could just graze/fertalize land and then be slaughtered.....

Do you have any idea how many acres of land it takes to free range rotational graze even as little as ten head of cows, let alone ten thousand?

Posted: 9/10/2010 9:42:24 PM EDT

[#39]

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Some people dont know what the hell they are talking about or looking for when they use that term, they just think its the latest fad. Me, I dont care to buy meat from the big mass producers. I can afford to go to the local family owned butcher plant and buy locally raised beef and pigs that were slaughtered humanely right here.
There's an elderly couple who sell fresh eggs on the side of the road to help supplement their income. I gladly buy from them instead of the mass producers.
I understand animals are raised and killed to go on my plate and feed my family and they are damn tasty too. I just dont care for the large organizations and their business practices. I also frequent the farmers market every chance I get. I would much rather buy local produce raised by a family then some corporate farm out of California or someplace.
Anyways, thats my take on it. It has nothing to do with being trendy for me, I just support local and dont care for corporate farming/ranching.

Supporting local and organic are two different things.

Posted: 9/10/2010 9:43:23 PM EDT

[#40]

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IDK, right now I'd settle for seafood that wasn't from some Asian sewer.

Country of Origin labeling.

Posted: 9/10/2010 9:43:41 PM EDT

[#41]

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... why do beef farmers feed cows corn, and feed, when they could just graze/fertalize land and then be slaughtered.....

Do you have any idea how many acres of land it takes to free range rotational graze even as little as ten head of cows, let alone ten thousand?

Plus the growth rates, total weight, etc. It's a matter of the economics. There is a reason that grass-fed costs more. They're not ripping you off, that's just the end result of the financial equation.

Posted: 9/10/2010 9:45:03 PM EDT

[#42]

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The newest and best marketing buzzword.

When i was a chef, crafting an "organic" special guaranteed a mountain of sales at a higher price point.

Im my (professional) opinion organic benefits are a bit of a wash, for the consumer at least. I dont think that solely by virtue of being "organic" a fruit or vegetable is any better tasting. Many claim they are, but blind taste testing suggests otherwise. There are exceptions though, but most of them, i suspect, are better for reasons not entirely related to the "organic" tag.

Organic free range chicken is better than cheapo chicken, but its %400 the price. A line of organic herbs are by far the best i have tasted, but i dont know if it is because they are organic, or because they are grown on a small farm with alot of attention to detail, and arrive super fresh.

The best, by far, pork i have tasted/prepared was organic, but i think it was the %70 acorn diet and old (pre-lean era) breeding lines, not the lack of pesticides it was exposed to.

Organic beef fucking sucks.

Why do you think a person who raises their own pigs feed them nothing but corn for the two weeks before slaughter?

Posted: 9/10/2010 9:46:12 PM EDT

[#43]

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It's been a while, but doesn't "organic" = carbon based? If so, that would be US (like, people) and coal –– think about it. BTW, reluctantly, I've tried the "organic" stuff, it tasted OK, but most tasted like shit. Might be on to something here.

It takes something along the lines of three or four times more carbon to raise orgainc than convential.

Posted: 9/10/2010 9:46:23 PM EDT

[#44]

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The newest and best marketing buzzword.

When i was a chef, crafting an "organic" special guaranteed a mountain of sales at a higher price point.

Im my (professional) opinion organic benefits are a bit of a wash, for the consumer at least. I dont think that solely by virtue of being "organic" a fruit or vegetable is any better tasting. Many claim they are, but blind taste testing suggests otherwise. There are exceptions though, but most of them, i suspect, are better for reasons not entirely related to the "organic" tag.

Organic free range chicken is better than cheapo chicken, but its %400 the price. A line of organic herbs are by far the best i have tasted, but i dont know if it is because they are organic, or because they are grown on a small farm with alot of attention to detail, and arrive super fresh.

The best, by far, pork i have tasted/prepared was organic, but i think it was the %70 acorn diet and old (pre-lean era) breeding lines, not the lack of pesticides it was exposed to.

Organic beef fucking sucks.

Why do you think a person who raises their own pigs feed them nothing but corn for the two weeks before slaughter?

Because corn is cheaper than acorns?

Posted: 9/10/2010 9:46:32 PM EDT

[#45]

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Organic food reminds me of the New York Yankees: On its own, its better... but the fans are fucking douchebags.
You cannot argue that food loaded with pesticides and bullshit are better for you than the natural shit that has gotten us through millions of years of evolution. Current agricultural technology is based on quantity, not quality. I have a buddy that went from 250+ lbs to 170 lbs by simply eating right, and that was by switching over to organic foods and watching his portions.
I'm a hardcore capitalist, but arguing about the bottom dollar of a food company is a whole different ballgame from talking about healthy choices.

- BG

Sorry - I say bullshit!!!

His weight loss had nothing to do with organic vs commercial grown food, it had all to do with his amount of intake (of whatever he ate) and his exercise regime.....!!!

Switching to organic caused him to to avoid any processed bullshit. All of that premade bullshit went out the window.

It did wonders. Read your ingredients labels. On a true organic diet, I'm guessing you couldn't consume 95% of the bullshit your normally do.

I'm not sure if he ever spent an hour at a gym, either.

- BG

You have to wonder about processed food and obesity in the USA. Than their is puberty. Puberty now starts at 8 the last study I checked.

Posted: 9/10/2010 9:47:19 PM EDT

[#46]

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Fruit and veggies raised in shit for fertilizer. I'll take my chances with petrochemicals...

Organic does not mean they don't use chemicals.

Posted: 9/10/2010 9:49:28 PM EDT

[#47]

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What is it with people who want to buy food with a bunch of unnatural garbage in it? That's why I like hunting, because I know that shit isn't tainted with a bunch of shit. Some seriously illogical posts in this thread. "Shut up and eat food with a bunch of BS chemicals and hormones in it."

What do you think the deer are eating to get so big and strong? Here's a hint, its evil GMO High Fructose corn and soybeans

Plus, animals that have received anti-botics can't be butchered till the drugs are out of their system, but don't let silly facts ruin your smugness.

Well I'm not sure how you're substantiating your comments about the animals that I hunt... The use of antibiotics in animal feeds is problematic due to the potential development of resistant bacterial pathogens in food-producing animals which are exposed to the antibiotics and the resultant public health risk. And you're silly if you don't think (synthetic)hormones don't effect the genetic makeup of animals.

I'm not being smug, I prefer to eat food without potential contaminates. If that offends you, then go eat a big bowl of shit with rat poison on it.

Posted: 9/10/2010 9:49:45 PM EDT

[#48]

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I have 60 acres of garden. Baby carrots, new potatoes, onions, black eyed peas, watermelon, cucumbers, etc. Its all organic.
Grows right out of the ground. Dont use fertilizer and pesiticides and its all trashed. So get your head out of your ass , grow and pick your own and its as good as it gets.
My neighbor has 1 acre and he grows the same as me. Organic is like orgasmic. Any body can have one.

It just take s a little work.

You don't use ANY chemicals on 60 acres?

Not buying it.

Posted: 9/10/2010 9:50:29 PM EDT

[#49]

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The newest and best marketing buzzword.

When i was a chef, crafting an "organic" special guaranteed a mountain of sales at a higher price point.

Im my (professional) opinion organic benefits are a bit of a wash, for the consumer at least. I dont think that solely by virtue of being "organic" a fruit or vegetable is any better tasting. Many claim they are, but blind taste testing suggests otherwise. There are exceptions though, but most of them, i suspect, are better for reasons not entirely related to the "organic" tag.

Organic free range chicken is better than cheapo chicken, but its %400 the price. A line of organic herbs are by far the best i have tasted, but i dont know if it is because they are organic, or because they are grown on a small farm with alot of attention to detail, and arrive super fresh.

The best, by far, pork i have tasted/prepared was organic, but i think it was the %70 acorn diet and old (pre-lean era) breeding lines, not the lack of pesticides it was exposed to.

Organic beef fucking sucks.

Why do you think a person who raises their own pigs feed them nothing but corn for the two weeks before slaughter?

Because corn is cheaper than acorns?

Just checked, out of curiousity. It looks like Acorns cost anywhere from $40 to $60 per bushel. Corn was $4.64 per bushel today. That pork damn well should be the best tasting ever.

Posted: 9/10/2010 9:51:08 PM EDT

[#50]

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What is it with people who want to buy food with a bunch of unnatural garbage in it? That's why I like hunting, because I know that shit isn't tainted with a bunch of shit. Some seriously illogical posts in this thread. "Shut up and eat food with a bunch of BS chemicals and hormones in it."

Actual studies of produce grown under modern GAP methods show no difference in cheimicals than organics.

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