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Maybe if you went over there and they shoved it in your face, then maybe you would have a complaint. But grow some moxy boy - this aint your Granddaddy's world anymore.
Whether you like it or not, that is the way things are and you will have to deal with it. I think you acted rather on the immature side. However, you are an adult and can do whatever you want. |
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Quoted: it is disgusting, thank god for AIDS!!! View Quote Ah hm. I personally don't thank God for AIDS. AIDS isn't just a homosexual disease. There are plenty of women that have contracted AIDS. Hemophiliacs can get it as well. Hell, YOU can get it if you ever need a blood transfusion. It's a SMALL possibility, but it is a possibility nonetheless. Truth is, no one is really sure HOW HIV started. It is generally accepted that HIV is related to SIV, which is Simian Immunodeficiency Virus. As to how the virus crossed to humans from monkeys (chimps), it's believed that someone could have killed a chimp for food, and the virus crossed that way. It's completely by chance that AIDS began to show up in great numbers in homosexuals. It could just as easily have infected a heterosexual person, and spread FIRST through the heterosexual community. Let's not forget that just because someone is gay, doesn't make him any more promiscuous than his heterosexual counterpart. Back in the 60s and 70s, EVERYone was sleeping with everyone else. I'm not a gay advocate. I don't condone or accept the gay lifestyle. I'm just pretty sick and tired of comments like the one above. Thank God for things like technology, our great minds, His forgiveness, etc. But I don't see how anyone can thank God for a disease that kills so many people every year. [/rant] -Gloftoe |
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I would have done what you did, Ire. You stood by what you think is right, and refused to compromise on it for the sake of making someone else happy.
Jojo, your moral fiber is lacking, man. You must really be hurting for some action if you're willing to bend your principles like that. Either that, or you really think homosexuality is ok. Me, I guess I'm just not desperate enough to go hang out with two gay guys, in hopes the girl will put out. I also won't be desperate enough when some girl in my future says she doesn't like guns, and wants me to get rid of them. J. |
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I think homosexuality is okay...
I judge people on character and morals, not what their lifestyle is. |
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It's completely by chance that AIDS began to show up in great numbers in homosexuals. It could just as easily have infected a heterosexual person, and spread FIRST through the heterosexual community. View Quote Aids is thought to be a product of either the polio vaccination trials or some bioexperiment in Haiti. It coming from monkeys is fucking retarded, it would have showed up sooner, or we would see an abnormally large amount of AIDS cases in the area surrounding the initial infection. We don't. It wasn't the apes, dammit. Let's not forget that just because someone is gay, doesn't make him any more promiscuous than his heterosexual counterpart. View Quote Hear about the syphillis outbreak in Kalifornia? Back in the 60s and 70s, EVERYone was sleeping with everyone else. View Quote ...And you had to walk up hill both ways? This is the new age, everybody is sleeping with each other, just like you did. |
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Jojo, your moral fiber is lacking, man. You must really be hurting for some action if you're willing to bend your principles like that. Either that, or you really think homosexuality is ok. View Quote Why not? Do they not have the right of the pursuit of happiness? Do they not have the right to choose how they live their own life? You may find it offensive, but who gives a fuck? Move or shutup, this is how life is, not your candy land fantasy. Homosexuality has been around way longer than Hollywood. There is nothing wrong with it except for the fact that it is deviant and by that I mean they can't procreate. Some of you can be more facist than a person "suppossed" to be about the freedom. To all you homo haters: You are wolves in sheeps clothing. We really don't need anyone on the side of freedom that doesn't really believe in others rights to freedom. Including you, Eric"I'm more facist than facist"theHun. (A personal flame from the Anti-Facist League) |
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Aids is thought to be a product of either the polio vaccination trials or some bioexperiment in Haiti. It coming from monkeys is fucking retarded, it would have showed up sooner, or we would see an abnormally large amount of AIDS cases in the area surrounding the initial infection. We don't. It wasn't the apes, dammit. View Quote Yes, that's one school of thought (the vaccination deal). The polio vaccination in question was an oral polio vaccine, that is said to have been grown in the kidney cells of macaque monkeys. Tests of leftover vaccine from this program were tested and found to have no trace of HIV. Also, macaque monkey kidney cells apparently can't be infected with HIV or SIV. Bio-experiment, sure. That could have happened as well. Researchers have also suggested that AIDS could have jumped species as far back as the 17th century. Shit, there's also people that say HIV was created by the fucking government. Doesn't make it true does it? I'm not saying my reason is correct. I'm pointing out theories of the origin of HIV. All of the above, including yours, are just theories. Hear about the syphillis outbreak in Kalifornia? View Quote No, I didn't hear about that. Was it only in gay men? If so, what the hell does that prove? I'd be willing to bet that a bunch of heterosexual people across the country contracted syphilis too. Probably gonorrhea and herpes as well. NONE of these diseases are homosexual exclusive. ...And you had to walk up hill both ways? This is the new age, everybody is sleeping with each other, just like you did. View Quote This last statement, I don't quite understand? -Gloftoe |
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Jojo, there are many groups of people I choose not to associate with due to my personal beliefs. I didn't say their actions should be illegal, simply that I don't have to or care to associate with them due to the lifestyle choices they made. If I find their actions to be morally repugnant, then I cane choose not to be around them.
If that makes me a fascist, then so be it, you communist waiter, you. J. |
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Ire, You should have gone and every time these two gays made a move or said anything that indicated that they were in love you could have made loud gagging sounds like you were going to through up. When asked about it you could have said that you are not a bigot, it just makes you sick.
LOL THISISME |
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Saw a program a few years ago which stated the gubment confirmed AIDS was brought into the US by a male flight attendant.
The topic of homosexuality sure does bring out the opinions. There's another thread going. |
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Quoted: Saw a program a few years ago which stated the gubment confirmed AIDS was brought into the US by a male flight attendant. The topic of homosexuality sure does bring out the opinions. There's another thread going. View Quote Yep. Gaetan Dugas is widely believed to have brought HIV to North America. Confirmed, I dunno. But then you have to wonder where HE got it from. -Gloftoe |
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Quoted: We really don't need anyone on the side of freedom that doesn't really believe in others rights to freedom. View Quote Music to my ears. I've been struggling with this problem of "Americanism" where all these really patriotic people who love freedom also cherish their ability to exact moral judgement on anything different than themselves or different than what their interpretations of what is written in their religious texts. Conservatism is not freedom. It is closed mindedness driven by a person's subjectivity. There's no room in MY America for THAT. That attitude is almost what is espoused by the Taliban, just based on a different religious text. |
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AIDS isn't just a homosexual disease. View Quote Before the disease became "well known," it was called GRID in medical circles: Gay Related Immunity Disease. The odds of a homo turning up positive are much greater than a hetro's. I follow the philosophy of live and let live, but I'd rather be labeled a bigot than hang aroung fags. Someone mentioned, "It's not your grandfather's world." Well, that's the problem. If it was, the fags would still be in the closet; with the door locked. Whatever they do in the closet is their business. Eddie |
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Before the disease became "well known," it was called GRID in medical circles: Gay Related Immunity Disease. View Quote Yes it was. However, this was because it showed up in homosexuals FIRST. Further research proved that it was NOT a homosexual disease, and could infect ANYONE who was exposed. The odds of a homo turning up positive are much greater than a hetro's. View Quote This is true, however it STILL does NOT make AIDS a homosexual disease. Do you know that the number of AIDS cases are rising FASTEST among heterosexual FEMALES? On a side note, I'm of the belief that people need to stay out of other people's bedroom. If an adult wants to fuck a doorknob in the privacy of their own home (albeit sick), who is ANYONE to tell him he can't? -Gloftoe |
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Any comparisson to Conservative Christian Americans to the Taliban is idiotic and about as uninformed and non-patriotic as a person can get. Chritianity does not preach kill the non-Christians nor spread the religion by the sword. If Jojo was with the Taliban he would be dead just for saying what he has said on this post not just disagreed with.
Bendover, this is not YOUR America it is OUR America that many of us have fought to preserve. It gives you the right to pass judgement just as it does the gay bashers and WE not just you fought for this right. Your statement makes you as bad as those you condemn. In YOUR America, you would rid yourself of all heterosexual anit-gays. What do you suggest, a gas chamber? By the way, I'm not anit-gay just pro-American! By the way, Jo, I was young once too and a product of the Free Love Generation. Enjoy yourself but if I can give you one advice it is that you hormones will deminish with time and then you will have to sleep at night with what you did in the past and we all have those, damn I should haves and damn I shouldn't haves. By the way guys, Old Ben down the road wants you all to come over next weekend for his aniversery party. He and his wife Elsie the cow have been married two years now and remember if you don't like it you're a bigot. |
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Quoted: Quoted: If you judge someone on their behaviorial [b]choices[/b] rather than an intrinsic characteristic then you are not a bigot.. imo [u]she[/u] is a dogmatic liberal...also a behavior [b]choice[/b] View Quote Well, if it is not a "choice" but a fact of biology, then he [b]IS[/b] a bigot for hating them..... Scott View Quote Excuse me but would you like to quote where he ever actually "said" that he "hated" them? Oh i get it, just becuase he doesn't like thier lifestyle means that he automaticly hates them. What a load of bullshit. There is a big difference between not liking someones lifestyle choice and hating them. you need to get your head out of your ass and realise this. Im tired of dealing with assholes like you that just dont pay enough damned attention. fact of biology? Please! There is absolutely no proof on the books that homosexuality is caused by "biology" In fact homosexuality goes against the very grain of science itself. If he is uncomfortable about being around them then he needs to worry about his feelings. If he decides not to be around people who have a lifestyle that he dislikes he is not being a "bigot" he is being a rational human being. grow up. |
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Interesting how the word "bigot" is being used in some circles:
...those who make such an affirmation of Christian Supremacy are often called bigots, an antichrist Jewish buzzword allegedly laid upon the king of England, when he refused... From a f@ckstickpseudochristianNAZIwebsite... |
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Quoted: Oh boy... There is a something you should always remember, Tolerance = Curiosity. She likes to hang around gay men? Good for her, now tag along, slap a goofy look on face and don't forget to flirt. You just blew an easy chance for some hot bisexual threesome sex. (By that I mean your chick and a female friend of hers, with you). What the fuck where you thinking? Did you think she would just want to bask in the glory of your manhood after that? Do you think, knowing she was a liberal piece of shit, that after you said "[b]I hate people of homosexual tendencies"[/b] View Quote really jojo really. should i REALLY have to go through this AGAIN? |
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Quoted: I think you acted rather on the immature side. View Quote Explain how. |
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As long as they dont come around trying to smoke MY pole, I generally get along with gays just like everyone else.
So, I am talking to that liberal chick that I've posted about before. Last night, her and a bunch of her friends are going to this guys house. She asks if I'd like to go View Quote My questions are, Where did you enter the picture? Did she call you and say "Peter would you like to go to this guys house with ME AND MY FRIENDS?" Or did you come wandering up at the last minute when her and HER FRIENDS were going to the couples house? If she contacted you then she wanted to include you in the plans. (I would have clammed up and went!) If you stumbled into someone elses plans then you were a mercy invite and I would have refused right there on those grounds! If you were a mercy invite, then she probably jumped your shit to piss you off cause you werent part of the deal in the first place! |
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Oh And note to NSF JOJO
Damn Matt! I guess youre not the cute little kid anymore! Better make a fist and start swinging! |
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thats funny I seem to remember that in fact Christians did preach kill those who aren't Christians, or mess with their native livelihoods till they kill themselves, oh and rape the kids can't forget that.
Sorry any argument based on religion automatically pisses me off. |
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This went on and on. I know some of you will say why do you even talk to this chick and [red]the only reason i have is that she is hot.[/red] View Quote Actually, this line says more about you then your whole post says about her. Sad really. Sgtar15 |
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Quoted: AIDS isn't just a homosexual disease. View Quote The odds of a homo turning up positive are much greater than a hetro's. Eddie View Quote Eddie, You don't have the facts, And you shouldn't present your misinformed opinions as such. http://www.thebody.com/cdc/news_updates_archive/nov27_02/women_aids.html Women Make Up Half of HIV Cases; Milestone Explains Effects of Epidemic Washington Post 11.27.02; David Brown Marking the arrival of a milestone experts had predicted for years, the UN and the World Health Organization announced Wednesday that about half the HIV-infected people worldwide are women. The continued spread of AIDS in sub-Saharan Africa, where the majority of new infections have occurred in women for several years, is the main engine behind the "feminization" of the epidemic, although the number of infected women is rising elsewhere as well. Heterosexual transmission is now the main cause of new infections in Western Europe and is of growing importance in Eastern Europe. "We are far away from the gay white male disease it was in the 1980s," said UNAIDS Executive Director Peter Piot. In all, 42 million people are living with HIV, according to the report. African girls are at higher risk because their partners tend to be older and are more likely to be infected. Many African girls and married women find it difficult to demand safe sex practices. Male-to-female transmission is more efficient than female-to-male, and the genital tract of teenage girls is more vulnerable to infection than that of older girls. The report cites numerous social and economic consequences of the rising numbers of infected women. Women in Africa do most of the work on subsistence farms and most of the food preparation, are more involved in the education of children, and are the chief caregivers for ill family members. Experts believe the effects of the drought and famine in southern Africa are much worse because of AIDS, and they warn of the risk of the poor socialization of the 11 million children who have lost one or both parents to AIDS. The worsening African food shortage "is the first sign of the larger societywide destabilizing impact of AIDS, as was predicted several years ago, but which I frankly didn't think would happen so quickly," Piot said. There was also good news, however. The report cites early evidence that the prevention campaigns that helped reduce new infections in Uganda and Thailand are working elsewhere. HIV prevalence has fallen among pregnant women in South Africa (from 21 percent in 1998 to 15 percent last year), in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia (from 24 percent in 1995 to 15 percent last year) and in the Dominican Republic. |
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Quoted: thats funny I seem to remember that in fact Christians did preach kill those who aren't Christians, or mess with their native livelihoods till they kill themselves, oh and rape the kids can't forget that. Sorry any argument based on religion automatically pisses me off. View Quote Oh, now that's just plain WRONG. Couple of points: 1) NEVER did ANY CHRISTIAN preach to "rape the kids." 2) The incident didn't happen in all of the Christian faiths (that we know of). It was just the Catholics. -Gloftoe |
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Quoted: 2) The incident didn't happen in all of the Christian faiths (that we know of). It was just the Catholics. View Quote Just an FYI... there are a whole slew of fundamentalists sects that have harbored ministers who were pedo. |
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Would you be a bigot if the friend had some other lifestyle you did not want to be around? Say he was a skinhead or KKK guy?
Sound like she is the intolerant one. |
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Ben, good point. I tend to forget about those people.
-Gloftoe |
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You're not really a bigot, you just don't know when a fun time is staring you in the face.
Besides, "bigot" really isnt the correct term here. The correct term is "Intollerant". It does sound like you are only talking to this chick because she is hot. You want to jump this chicks bones? Be nice to her friends. Simple. The way I see it, you are already bending your own rules by sliming after this chick because she is hot. You should have no problem bending some of your other rules if it means "getting some". Know what I mean? I am an intollerant bigot, but some of the funniest people I know are gay. When they start doing their "flamey" shit, I look at them with a slack-jawed stare and say "That is so gross". They understand, laugh and stop...for awhile anyway. |
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Quoted: And I sure as hell wouldn't tip a commie waiter. View Quote Sure you would. Plant your corn early Stay out of dark alleys Put $2 on 'Happy Boy' in the 3rd race Keep out of the hot sun..... |
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"He's real cool" A tip-off. I'm NOT cool. I don't WANT to be 'cool'. I yam what I yam! and it's NOT 'cool'
"He's gay and not afraid to let people know." Just what I wanted to do that night, talk about homosexuality. In short, who is this guy, anyway? Does he hunt?Fish? Read? Fly? Sail? I mean WTF do the two of us have in common, anyway? Is this someone I want to meet? Probably not. Do I dislike gay people? No. I've had friends that happened to be gay. But at least I've had something in common with them, some sort of shared interest. One of my favorite sailors (as in sailboats) was gay. Sailing was our shared interest. We sailed together and talked ragboats for hours on end. Neither of us really ever spoke about our sex lives or preferences to each other. I imagine that he was about as uninterested in my sex life as I was of his. I would imagine that he would have found listening to Suzie and I about as disgusting as I would have found it listening to him tell me about him and Johnny. Hey, I had no real control of my sexuality. I didn't ASK to be hetrosexual. It just happened that way, although I'm glad things worked out that way. One day as a youngster, I woke up with a hard-on and a vision of a WOMAN. Some gay guy probably woke up with a hard-on and a vision of a guy. Fair enough. Probably ain't his fault. But I probably wouldn't want to waste my time meeting this guy because it sure seems we have nothing in common. One other question: WTF do you have in common with that liberal chick, anyway. She seems like a royal PITA to me. BTW, the ONLY thing that chowderhead Klinton did that I even remotely agree with is 'Don't ask, don't tell'. A person's sex life is NOBODIES business. ESPECIALLY the gubmints! |
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I've never met him, but from what I've gathered, he and his partner are very big on PDA
In short, who is this guy, anyway? Does he hunt?Fish? Read? Fly? Sail? I mean WTF do the two of us have in common, anyway? Is this someone I want to meet? Probably not.. View Quote What do I have in common with this girl? Not much, as I said, I was just looking for some action. But, she is really pissed about the other night. Oh well, probably for the better anyhow. One other question: WTF do you have in common with that liberal chick, anyway. She seems like a royal PITA to me. View Quote |
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On a side note, I'm of the belief that people need to stay out of other people's bedroom. If an adult wants to fuck a doorknob in the privacy of their own home (albeit sick), who is ANYONE to tell him he can't? View Quote I agree. The key word here is privacy. Most homos want everyone to be a part of (or witiness to) their "gayness." If I choose to not embrace and support their right to pack fudge, I'm labeled a bigot. I'm comfortable with that. Eddie |
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AIDS began in Africa and from the very beginning it has been known that blacks are more likely to get the disease after exposure due to some genetic reason. I have seen two or three different reports and they put the susceptibility to infection at 10 to 12 times that of other races. Info like that could have saved a lot of lives, but since the first such study, in Portugal, it has been kept quiet.
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Quoted: Quoted: We really don't need anyone on the side of freedom that doesn't really believe in others rights to freedom. View Quote Music to my ears. I've been struggling with this problem of "Americanism" where all these really patriotic people who love freedom also cherish their ability to exact moral judgement on anything different than themselves or different than what their interpretations of what is written in their religious texts. Conservatism is not freedom. It is closed mindedness driven by a person's subjectivity. There's no room in MY America for THAT. That attitude is almost what is espoused by the Taliban, just based on a different religious text. View Quote Bingo!!! If my girlfriend has a friend who she thinks is OK, I am going to give them a chance, regardless of their personal beliefs or lifestyle. Maybe I'll end wasting an evening with someone who I don't ever want to hang out with again, or maybe I'll have an evening of interesting conversation that goes in unexpected directions. I've been to parties at gay people's houses and at lesbian houses. It is really no big deal. |
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Well we may need a few more bigot's in the world.
If a person is gay then call him gay! If he is a terrorist then call him a terrorist! If he is shooting unarmed civilian's then call the murdering bastage a murderer not a "sniper"![pissed] All this PC crap is just crap! Stand by your conviction's ar fall for anything! BigDozer66 |
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Guys who like lesbians usually have never met any in person.
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Quoted: Quoted: Saw a program a few years ago which stated the gubment confirmed AIDS was brought into the US by a male flight attendant. The topic of homosexuality sure does bring out the opinions. There's another thread going. View Quote Yep. Gaetan Dugas is widely believed to have brought HIV to North America. Confirmed, I dunno. But then you have to wonder where HE got it from. -Gloftoe View Quote He was identified as "Patient 1" a [u]gay[/u] Lufthansa Flight Attendant who first spread it to the gay community in Denver, CO It IS a gay disease. Where do you think the women and the hemophiliacs got it from first? Bi-sexual husbands packing fudge without their spouses knowledge. IBTL |
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Quoted: Guys who like lesbians usually have never met any in person. View Quote Remind me to tell you guys about the "hottie" I started birddogging at a party one night! |
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Quoted: Guys who like lesbians usually have never met any in person. View Quote Reno. Rosie. I think we have a winner heah, gennelmen. J. |
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Quoted: Guys who like lesbians usually have never met any in person. View Quote I never did "get" the "lesbians are hot" thing. After all, they have ZERO interest in a hetero male like me. On the other hand, at least three of the lesbians that I knew were definitely hot and two were downright gorgeous. |
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