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Posted: 7/30/2019 1:02:06 PM EDT
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I just want to extend warm wishes to all fellow cryptid travelers and our new home on ARFCOM. 
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Posted: 7/30/2019 1:17:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/30/2019 1:36:16 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/30/2019 2:50:38 PM EDT
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My new home....
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Posted: 7/30/2019 3:00:40 PM EDT
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My new home.... .
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Posted: 7/30/2019 3:02:25 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/30/2019 3:03:44 PM EDT
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A fan fiction forum at last...
You will no longer be able to troll this or any other forum. - DV8 |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 3:04:33 PM EDT
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If anybody "in power" is listening....
I know a lot of threads in GD on these subject matters would get trolled mercilessly. Is there a way to make it part of the rules of this forum that it is "troll free", i.e., for "believers" if you want to use that word. In other words: no naysayer posts saying it's tinfoil hat stuff unless it's specific to an event where there's evidence of a hoax. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 3:05:33 PM EDT
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If anybody "in power" is listening.... I know a lot of threads in GD on these subject matters would get trolled mercilessly. Is there a way to make it part of the rules of this forum that it is "troll free", i.e., for "believers" if you want to use that word. In other words: no naysayer posts saying it's tinfoil hat stuff unless it's specific to an event where there's evidence of a hoax. trolls post knowingly fictional information posing as fact to troll the gullible... you’re on the wrong side of this issue. I’m actually ok with that, as long as participants are banned from posting anywhere else on this forum.... |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 3:06:27 PM EDT
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If anybody "in power" is listening.... I know a lot of threads in GD on these subject matters would get trolled mercilessly. Is there a way to make it part of the rules of this forum that it is "troll free", i.e., for "believers" if you want to use that word. In other words: no naysayer posts saying it's tinfoil hat stuff unless it's specific to an event where there's evidence of a hoax. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 3:07:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I agree, I don’t mind a competing viewpoint, but we are here for a reason. That guy does, in fact, mind competing viewpoints (especially with those pesky facts involved)... |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 3:14:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: To invent your own fictional “reality”? That guy does, in fact, mind competing viewpoints (especially with those pesky facts involved)... |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 3:14:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: To invent your own fictional “reality”? That guy does, in fact, mind competing viewpoints (especially with those pesky facts involved)... Bona fide evidence contrary to the narrative is always welcome. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 3:16:14 PM EDT
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I'm only against people making fun of the subject matter(s) presented without showing evidence. It's the smug, snarky mocking of the subject matter that I object to. Bona fide evidence contrary to the narrative is always welcome. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: To invent your own fictional “reality”? That guy does, in fact, mind competing viewpoints (especially with those pesky facts involved)... Bona fide evidence contrary to the narrative is always welcome. What an odd preference.... The source of the snark is years and years of utter nonsense without a shred of evidence to back it up, combined with “I have proof but won’t show you,” and “you called my BS, you must be a government agent” horseshit and spurious “report” usage. You realize that, don’t you? |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 3:17:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But presenting fanfiction with no evidence is cool? What an odd preference.... |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 3:19:36 PM EDT
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This is exactly what I'm talking about. You're only here to cause trouble and make smart ass comments. You are not here to contribute anything, just make fun of the subject matter as fan fiction. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: But presenting fanfiction with no evidence is cool? What an odd preference.... Again, what a skewed perception you have. You don’t want a discussion, you want a “no facts required” echo chamber. Sadly, it looks like you may have one. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 3:22:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Injecting reality into the discussion and asking folks to back their ridiculous claims is contributing nothing? Now, when you "ask folks to back their ridiculous claims" that is a little bit different. You still should not use an inflammatory word like "ridiculous" however. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 3:29:39 PM EDT
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That is not how you started out your posts to this thread. You started with personal attacks of this as "fan fiction." That is trolling with the intent to cause trouble. Now, when you "ask folks to back their ridiculous claims" that is a little bit different. You still should not use an inflammatory word like "ridiculous" however. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Injecting reality into the discussion and asking folks to back their ridiculous claims is contributing nothing? Now, when you "ask folks to back their ridiculous claims" that is a little bit different. You still should not use an inflammatory word like "ridiculous" however. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 3:33:45 PM EDT
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This is awesome. I needed some good news this week |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 3:38:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You have clearly missed the last few years of discussion on this topic. You should go back and do some research before branding folks requesting evidence as trolls (like the biggest squatchista expert is fond of doing). The next step is further abuse of the “report” button. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 4:27:53 PM EDT
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Awesome! Hope trolls get 
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Posted: 7/30/2019 4:50:58 PM EDT
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All I am saying is that there are better ways to get your point across rather than start posting like you are spoiling for a fight. That indicates you are not interested in an exchange of ideas, just in belittling and mocking a topic. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: You have clearly missed the last few years of discussion on this topic. You should go back and do some research before branding folks requesting evidence as trolls (like the biggest squatchista expert is fond of doing). The next step is further abuse of the “report” button. If you go back and look at enough BF threads here, you’ll understand. Sorry, but that’s just the way it is. This is why you’ve labeled the wrong side as the trolls. What the powers-that-be have done is validated some of the worst charlatans on the site, and that’s a sad thing. If they can find a way to banish all rational thinkers, that’s the next. Think about that before you pick sides between fact and folklore... that is what some folks actually want. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 4:54:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: After years of trying it your way with no results, there is nothing left to conclude except that one side has no interest in facts, only evasion and outright dishonesty. If you go back and look at enough BF threads here, you’ll understand. No one is here is making you believe yet. We are just learning to embrace our new minority status. It will be a while before we progress into making you accept that this is happening and embracing the gone squatching lifestyle. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 4:58:28 PM EDT
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Personally there are phenomena that I know to be real because I have experienced them myself. Others not so much but I allow for evidence to be presented, either for or against.
I just want the ridicule and trolling to stop just because some people find paranormal subjects to be laughable. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 5:08:39 PM EDT
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Personally there are phenomena that I know to be real because I have experienced them myself. Others not so much but I allow for evidence to be presented, either for or against. I just want the ridicule and trolling to stop just because some people find paranormal subjects to be laughable. I challenge you: find any bigfoot thread ANYWHERE where a rational case is made for the existence of bigfeet. You won’t be able to do it. At this point you have to be a gullible fool to believe. Pointing that out doesn’t make anyone a troll. No thinking person could think otherwise. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 5:13:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They’re laughable because there has never been any credible evidence to support them. None has ever been presented. When you point this out you’re called a troll. What you’ll never see in this forum is any rational case presented by squatchistas. I challenge you: find any bigfoot thread ANYWHERE where a rational case is made for the existence of bigfeet. You won’t be able to do it. At this point you have to be a gullible fool to believe. Pointing that out doesn’t make anyone a troll. I personally have trouble believing in Bigfoot. Why has no body ever been recovered, or even any part of a body, scat, or other direct physical evidence? Still, believing in the creature's existence should not subject one to ridicule any more than believing in Jesus or Allah should subject anyone to ridicule. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 5:17:43 PM EDT
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No, it's the manner in which a person comes across. Calling someone a "gullible fool" is insulting. How you are unable to see that being insulting is not a legitimate reaction is the problem. I personally have trouble believing in Bigfoot. Why has no body ever been recovered, or even any part of a body, scat, or other direct physical evidence? Still, believing in the creature's existence should not subject one to ridicule any more than believing in Jesus or Allah should subject anyone to ridicule. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: They’re laughable because there has never been any credible evidence to support them. None has ever been presented. When you point this out you’re called a troll. What you’ll never see in this forum is any rational case presented by squatchistas. I challenge you: find any bigfoot thread ANYWHERE where a rational case is made for the existence of bigfeet. You won’t be able to do it. At this point you have to be a gullible fool to believe. Pointing that out doesn’t make anyone a troll. I personally have trouble believing in Bigfoot. Why has no body ever been recovered, or even any part of a body, scat, or other direct physical evidence? Still, believing in the creature's existence should not subject one to ridicule any more than believing in Jesus or Allah should subject anyone to ridicule. Again, you need to review this topic- you’ll understand my words if you do. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 5:19:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Then move this to be a sub forum of religion and quit pretending it’s anything but faith and stories. Again, you need to review this topic- you’ll understand my words if you do. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 6:03:23 PM EDT
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I just want to extend warm wishes to all fellow cryptid travelers and our new home on ARFCOM. Where can I set up camp? |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 6:23:08 PM EDT
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Where can I set up camp? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I just want to extend warm wishes to all fellow cryptid travelers and our new home on ARFCOM. Where can I set up camp? |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 6:28:53 PM EDT
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A UFO forum on ARFCOM? Cool!
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Posted: 7/30/2019 6:28:55 PM EDT
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I got a spare sleeping bag..... 
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Posted: 7/30/2019 6:49:48 PM EDT
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That's a big negatory there creature of legendary in your mind. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I got a spare sleeping bag.....
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Posted: 7/30/2019 7:28:53 PM EDT
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Ive neen told I'm outta this world bro.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I got a spare sleeping bag..... 
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Posted: 7/30/2019 9:19:44 PM EDT
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If anybody "in power" is listening.... I know a lot of threads in GD on these subject matters would get trolled mercilessly. Is there a way to make it part of the rules of this forum that it is "troll free", i.e., for "believers" if you want to use that word. In other words: no naysayer posts saying it's tinfoil hat stuff unless it's specific to an event where there's evidence of a hoax. Is it a storytelling forum or is it for all interested parties? Good research involves presenting good evidence and having it questioned. I agree about toning back the insults, but what you are asking is an entirely different matter |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 9:22:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm only against people making fun of the subject matter(s) presented without showing evidence. It's the smug, snarky mocking of the subject matter that I object to. Bona fide evidence contrary to the narrative is always welcome. Say you think you saw a bigfoot? UFO?ghost? Fucking awesome. I love that shit I have even shared stories of mine. Tell me bigfoots mating, migration, and feeding habits as if they are fact? Yeah, you are going to expect people to want evidence of such claims. Those are the people that need to back it up with evidence. Not the skeptic. You want a safe space, plain and simple. So mods. What is it? A place where we discuss both sides of the matter without insults or is it an insulated story telling forum free of science and logical thinking? |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 9:38:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The only people that need to present evidence are those that make a fantastic claim. Say you think you saw a bigfoot? UFO?ghost? Fucking awesome. I love that shit I have even shared stories of mine. Tell me bigfoots mating, migration, and feeding habits as if they are fact? Yeah, you are going to expect people to want evidence of such claims. Those are the people that need to back it up with evidence. Not the skeptic. You want a safe space, plain and simple. So mods. What is it? A place where we discuss both sides of the matter without insults or is it an insulated story telling forum free of science and logical thinking? |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 9:48:12 PM EDT
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edited nvm
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Posted: 7/30/2019 9:48:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Congrats on getting the forum you wanted |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 9:49:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am all for venturing out of the safe space to gather evidence. Are you? Or do you mean let everyone else do the work and you will just pick it apart because you are a sceptic? Thanks for the backhand hostility though. I have always tried to be cool with you but I guess we have some animosity between us I was not aware of. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 9:51:09 PM EDT
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Dude I fucking did the work. II can and ill question all and any claims if they are being presented to me as if they are settled fact. Thanks for the hostility. I have never shown it to you. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 9:52:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That is not meant to be a hostile statement. You didn’t do the work, of that I am quite certain. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 9:54:33 PM EDT
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Dude I fucking did the work. I can and will question all and any claims if they are being presented to me as if they are settled fact. I still love a godo story and encounter, it keeps me hoping its all real Thanks for the backhand hostility though. I have always tried to be cool with you but I guess we have some animosity between us I was not aware of. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 10:06:34 PM EDT
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Here you fucking go. Great |
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Posted: 7/31/2019 3:27:28 AM EDT
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This...
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You have got to be kidding. Is a skeptic all of a sudden a troll? I love the subject, I just happen to demand more evidence that most. Is it a storytelling forum or is it for all interested parties? Good research involves presenting good evidence and having it questioned. I agree about toning back the insults, but what you are asking is an entirely different matter Quoted: The only people that need to present evidence are those that make a fantastic claim. Say you think you saw a bigfoot? UFO?ghost? Fucking awesome. I love that shit I have even shared stories of mine. Tell me bigfoots mating, migration, and feeding habits as if they are fact? Yeah, you are going to expect people to want evidence of such claims. Those are the people that need to back it up with evidence. Not the skeptic. You want a safe space, plain and simple. So mods. What is it? A place where we discuss both sides of the matter without insults or is it an insulated story telling forum free of science and logical thinking? I’m glad we’ve got the forum. It’ll be awesome to hear people’s stories. I find the subject fascinating, and it wouldn’t hurt me one bit if it all turned out to be true. But there’s a difference between stories and tangible evidence. Share an experience and summation that you have no idea what “it” was? Great! I’m happy to take folks at their word. Truly, as a skeptic, I have no issues with these examples. On the other hand, trotting out detailed accounts of “their” physiology, psychology, societal habits, supernatural powers, etc. is what ignites the skeptic. Especially without some sort of tangible evidence. Such expert assertions raise the burden of proof and invite scrutiny. No matter the topic. I’m all for being cordial. In fact I’m glad this exists outside GD; as it has the potential to actually advance the conversation. But I do worry that anyone who poses questions, or presses the issues, will be labeled as a trolls, haters, whatever. It should be a place free from ridicule and insults. But not a safe space that’s free from competing ideas. Again, congrats on the forum! |
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Posted: 7/31/2019 8:00:17 AM EDT
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Good morning fellow cryptid enthusiasts and others who might want to learn more or simple red some great stories and personal accounts.
Please keep comments civil. If you are a skeptic, great. The world and this topic always needs a devils advocate. That said, be respectful with comments. If someone posts a skeptical remark, please be respectful of their point of view as well. Keep this simple rules and this will be a fun place to hang out, swap stories, tell tales and enjoy. FWIW, I have a personal experience with 2 dogmen while traveling in West Virginia that I will be posting soon. It will also be featured on a YouTube cryptid show soon. I will let you know when and post a link when it airs.
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Posted: 7/31/2019 8:53:07 AM EDT
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Good morning fellow cryptid enthusiasts and others who might want to learn more or simple red some great stories and personal accounts. Please keep comments civil. If you are a skeptic, great. The world and this topic always needs a devils advocate. That said, be respectful with comments. If someone posts a skeptical remark, please be respectful of their point of view as well. Keep this simple rules and this will be a fun place to hang out, swap stories, tell tales and enjoy. FWIW, I have a personal experience with 2 dogmen while traveling in West Virginia that I will be posting soon. It will also be featured on a YouTube cryptid show soon. I will let you know when and post a link when it airs. |
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Posted: 7/31/2019 9:02:04 AM EDT
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You are a breath of fresh air, I look forward to your post. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good morning fellow cryptid enthusiasts and others who might want to learn more or simple red some great stories and personal accounts. Please keep comments civil. If you are a skeptic, great. The world and this topic always needs a devils advocate. That said, be respectful with comments. If someone posts a skeptical remark, please be respectful of their point of view as well. Keep this simple rules and this will be a fun place to hang out, swap stories, tell tales and enjoy. FWIW, I have a personal experience with 2 dogmen while traveling in West Virginia that I will be posting soon. It will also be featured on a YouTube cryptid show soon. I will let you know when and post a link when it airs. That said, lets here your experiences! |
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Posted: 7/31/2019 10:41:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am stoked about this forum. It is considered a tech forum so tech forum decorum rules apply. However due to the nature of the topics discussed, it has to be kept a bit looser. I want people to have fun, share stories and experiences free from the ridicule of the general public. Having been on the receiving end, I know firsthand how it feels to not be believed. That said, lets here your experiences!  Looking forward to your encounter stories. |
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Posted: 7/31/2019 10:42:17 AM EDT
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Good morning fellow cryptid enthusiasts and others who might want to learn more or simple red some great stories and personal accounts. Please keep comments civil. If you are a skeptic, great. The world and this topic always needs a devils advocate. That said, be respectful with comments. If someone posts a skeptical remark, please be respectful of their point of view as well. Keep this simple rules and this will be a fun place to hang out, swap stories, tell tales and enjoy. FWIW, I have a personal experience with 2 dogmen while traveling in West Virginia that I will be posting soon. It will also be featured on a YouTube cryptid show soon. I will let you know when and post a link when it airs. You gonna be on vic's show?...if so...plz tell us when. And in WV last year something was stalking me and my brother up in the mon/cranberry wilderness area. And you've seen the pictures i posted from where we used to hunt haven't you? My game cam that was on that far swamp where the tree house style stand was on that border road .caught something . If not ill repost them for ya. @DV8 |
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