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Link Posted: 5/31/2002 3:22:23 PM EDT
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I know a million white trash hoosiers who fit the criteria, Unemployed, 12 kids, 22 dogs, welfare, uneducated, etc. I'm sure there are a million other natural born citizens who are a waste of space as well. What are we going to do with them? There are shitbags everywhere, I say bring'em, they keep me employed!! (POLICE)[;)]
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You really know a million white trash shitbags huh? How many [b]NIGGER[/b] shitbags do you know? (oh, sorry, slurs are bad unless they're targeted at the white devil oppressors)
Link Posted: 5/31/2002 3:27:22 PM EDT
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PS, can we please nuke Kalifornia now.

Link Posted: 5/31/2002 3:37:03 PM EDT
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I know a million white trash hoosiers who fit the criteria, Unemployed, 12 kids, 22 dogs, welfare, uneducated, etc. I'm sure there are a million other natural born citizens who are a waste of space as well. What are we going to do with them? There are shitbags everywhere, I say bring'em, they keep me employed!! (POLICE)[;)]
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You really know a million white trash shitbags huh? How many [b]NIGGER[/b] shitbags do you know? (oh, sorry, slurs are bad unless they're targeted at the white devil oppressors)
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He said more than he meant to I believe.  His last sentence is particularly interesting.  Police are starting to be less concerned with stopping crime...they want job security now.  He admits that as long as there is plenty of crime, there's plenty of work.  That's odd reasoning.  I think I'd rather have less crime and less police.  Call me idealistic.

Police used to have an actual interest in [b]stopping[/b] crime.  Now they're just happy that they have plenty to do, whatever the consequences society as a whole has to face.
Link Posted: 5/31/2002 3:37:32 PM EDT
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Dave, never just come out and say, "I was wrong." Too risky I know, you might lose whatever credibility here you think you have.

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Well, Gav, data from the chart shows that in FY 1994 (the original timeframe I came across and referenced), whites *were* the largest group on welfare proportionately (at 37.4%, vs. blacks at 36.4%, and hispanics at 19.9%).  Thanks for the big picture data, though.
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I know, wasn't that why you used that example, or was finding that one year (which still fell short of your original claim) just a coincidence?

Lies, damn lies, and statistics.  Doesn't change the fact that what's wrong with this country isn't just the fault of immigrants or minorities.
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No one said that. Some people are more of a burden than others though, and our numerically generous, low standards, ill-enforced immigration policy is proving that every day.

As to the rest: whatever.  There are worse things in life than being called a liberal on the internet.  You could insist that I was a vegetarian or something.
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Done worse than that (I know your main interest in this site is guns and not politics). I suggested that Maxine Waters could outshoot you. On a gunboard that's a pretty low blow. Enjoy! [}:D]
Link Posted: 5/31/2002 3:43:00 PM EDT
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AlClenin! You insensitive bastard. You used the dreaded 'N' word. Now the entire thread must be censored, never to be seen again. *LOL*
Link Posted: 5/31/2002 3:46:38 PM EDT
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I have no problem with immigration, if legal and by the rules.

a majority of the people where I work are spanish.  middle/upper class, not your welfare grabbers.  they are concerned about the educational system and most other issues concerning every one else.

However, most of these people will tell you flat-out that they will not give up their heritage.  they only speak spanish at home, their kids are forced to speak spanish at home so that they do not become 'americanized' and they will take advantage of the system whenever it is to their benefit.  they speak spanish at work when speaking to each other and only speak english to gringos like me.

The fact that they come to this country and enjoy the benefits but refuse to accept the history, responsibility and tradition of being a U.S. citizen will be the death of this country.
Link Posted: 5/31/2002 3:47:41 PM EDT
[#7]
Maxine can certainly shoot off her MOUTH, that's for sure.  She be a PROFESSIONAL.   [:P]

Link Posted: 5/31/2002 3:51:36 PM EDT
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An e-mail I received....
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Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 4:25 PM
Subject: Mexican President


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Mexican President, Vicente Fox, tells America, "You Have No Borders".
FreedomFriend | 05/24/02 | FreedomFriend

Posted on 5/25/02 12:34 AM Pacific by FreedomFriend

On Friday night, 5/24/02, the Hannity & Colmes Show featured Mexican
President, Vicente Fox, who showed his hostility
towards U.S. Immigration laws, as well as American Borders and
Sovereignty.

When questioned about Illegal Immigration, President Fox stated, "They are not
illegal". He instead referred to them as migrants, and claimed that their
protection is directed under human rights concerns.

Fox, who was sought out by Mexican citizens to bring reform to the country,
including economic mobility, has yet to offer any solutions within his country.
In the short time since he took office, the Mexican President's solution has
been to "ship" his poorest citizens into America, the end result of which is an
ever-increasing border security problem, increasing crime levels, rising
poverty, poorer performing schools, more services offered at the expense of
American citizens, and a diluted American culture. It is said that this is
hardly the reform that the American people had in mind. Apparently, any reform
is coming at America's expense, while the status quo continues to remain in
Mexico.

Therefore, the question to ponder is why a foreign President is dictating U.S.
policy, which, according to U.S. laws and the Constitution, is to be considered
as an act of hostility from a hostile government. The answer lies in U.S.
President, George W. Bush, of whom has made amnesty for millions of illegal
aliens a high priority since his inauguration.

Despite what the American people are saying, the President, along with many in
the U.S. Congress, is pushing for the legalization of millions of individuals
who chose not to respect the sovereignty of the United States. This goes without
fact that roughly seventy to ninety percent of the American public rates
stemming illegal immigration as one of the most pressing concerns facing America
in this day and time.

Illegal Immigration has been linked in study after study to an increase in
poverty, crime, taxes, environmental degradation, as well as multiculturalism
and bilingualism. Not only is the U.S. seeing the negative effects of illegal
immigration, but there is nothing to be gained from it, for, according to the
Centers for Immigration Studies, a Washington think-tank, Illegal Immigration
from Mexico has had the following impact:
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Link Posted: 5/31/2002 3:53:25 PM EDT
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* Large-scale immigration from Mexico is a very recent phenomenon. In 1970, the
Mexican immigrant population was less than 800,000, compared to nearly 8 million
in 2000.

* Almost two-thirds of adult Mexican immigrants have not completed high school,
compared to fewer than one in ten natives. Mexican immigrants now account for 22
percent of all high school dropouts in the labor force.

* Though most natives are more skilled and thus do not face significant job
competition from Mexican immigrants, this study (consistent with previous
research) indicates that the more than 10 million natives who lack a high school
degree do face significant job competition from Mexican immigrants.

* By increasing the supply of unskilled labor, Mexican immigration in the 1990s
has reduced the wages of workers without a high school education by an estimated
5 percent. The workers affected are already the lowest-paid, comprising a large
share of the working poor and those trying to move from welfare to work.

* This reduction in wages for the unskilled has likely reduced prices for
consumers by only an estimated .08 to .2 percent in the 1990s. The impact is so
small because unskilled labor accounts for only a tiny fraction of total
economic output.

* Although they comprise 4.2 percent of the nation's total population, Mexican
immigrants and their U.S.-born children (under 18) account for 10.2 percent of
all persons in poverty and 12.5 percent of those without health insurance. Even
among Mexican immigrant families that have lived in United States for more than
20 years, almost all of whom are legal residents, more than half live in or near
poverty and one-third are uninsured.

* Even after welfare reform, an estimated 34 percent of households headed by
legal Mexican immigrants and 25 percent headed by illegal Mexican immigrants
used at least one major welfare program, in contrast to 15 percent of native
households. Mexican immigrants who have lived in the United States for more than
20 years, almost all of whom are legal residents, still have double the welfare
use rate of natives.

Link Posted: 5/31/2002 3:54:19 PM EDT
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* Mexican immigration acts as a subsidy to businesses that employ unskilled
workers, holding down labor costs while taxpayers pick up the costs of providing
services to a much larger poor and low-income population.

Based on estimates developed by the National Academy of Sciences for immigrants
by age and education at arrival, the lifetime fiscal impact (taxes paid minus
services used) for the average adult Mexican immigrant is a negative $55,200.

The question then is why are U.S. officials supporting policies and legislation
through action and inaction, in the case of illegal immigration, that are a
detriment to the American people, American Society, and the United States in
general. This is especially true when the damage is noticeable on the economic,
social, cultural, constitutional, and sovereignty fronts. Where are the public
officials that took a duty to uphold the U.S. Constitution and to protect us
from invasion as well as hostile governments? The answer is that they are few
and far between. The consensus of the day has been to support wide open borders,
free trade, deindustrialization, and anti-Constitutional measures, for the
United States must no longer look out for itself, but should instead be part of
a larger, global system of government, as well as the economy included within.

Therefore, we can get a sense of where Mexican president, Vicente Fox, is coming
from. After all, America really has no borders, for all nations must work
together to build "coalitions", so as to bring about a better understanding and
a greater "humanity". It can then be assumed that this is how Fox was able to
exclaim, "they are not illegals".

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