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Posted: 10/9/2005 10:25:32 PM EDT
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That sounds unbelievable. Even if she started at $8 an hour, which is really good for 9 years ago; thats about a $2.50 raise a year. It sounds unbelievable that a cashier makes $40K, what do the managers make? 60K? . I dont see how they can compete with that kind of overhead. But man, if they can make it work, so could Walmart. |
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Posted: 10/9/2005 10:52:16 PM EDT
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I work for walmart also. I have no complaints about working there. Every walmart starts their associates at above minimum wage. Can mom and pops say that? You get a raise after your first 90 days, and then atleast 1 raise a year. Merit raises are available to people that are exceptional workers. I make a little under $30,000 a year. Medical insurance is available to everyone, although I go through my wifes company as hers is a little bit cheaper. To the "china-mart" crowd, show me a major retail store that sells items that are not made in china. The rubbermaid tote you buy at Target or Kmart is made in the same place as the rubbermaid tote that walmart sells, walmart just sells it cheaper. |
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Posted: 10/9/2005 11:29:20 PM EDT
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Interesting. Someone here or on another board said that Target out donated Wal-mart hands down in the charity department. |
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Posted: 10/9/2005 11:45:31 PM EDT
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As long as we're talking about WalMart, here's a free peice of advice for yall: You know those $6.00 machettes they have in their camping department? DO NOT buy one. The handle is really cheap plastic, the blade is made of some uber-wobbly metal, and it's about as sharp as bowling ball.
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Posted: 10/9/2005 11:56:33 PM EDT
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walmart paid me 20% more than my union job at kroger...
didnt have to pay union dues either and i got better benefits FUCK YOU UNION ASSHOLES. nobody at walmart that i worked with hated their jobs as much as the kroger employees i can't remember a single person quitting walmart (i had to to go back to school) though i think everyone i knew left kroger before i did... (5 month summer job) my union job was the only one that paid real close to minimum wage when i left the union job i went from 5.60 to 7.00+elite overtime pay (for a college freshmen) over christmas break getting over 100 hours/2 weeks (oh also paid a dollar extra for working sundays)...all kroger did was confiscate 50 dollars from my first paycheck and about 1% after that in union dues...basically they take about 1.5 day's pay just for LETTING you pay union dues and get NO FUCKING BENEFITS. |
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Posted: 10/10/2005 7:00:31 AM EDT
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And you get to sing a stupid song each morning before you go to work............ 
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Posted: 10/10/2005 8:19:24 AM EDT
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I have been 'out' - where I used to live, where I grew up, we did not have 'small family business' except for specialty stores that sold stuff that K-mart and Target did not. The nearest 'big box' store was a K-mart, about 20-30min away. Wal-Mart had not yet come to the area... The 'family' businesses in the area sell expensive-brand clothes/shoes, rugs, high-end sporting goods (eg they'd have more to fear from Cabellas than WM) and similar... Every other family business was in the service industry (hair, restaurants, bakeries, etc)... All the 'common' businesses, like auto parts, groceries, hardware, gas stations, mass-market clothes, and such are ALL national or regional chain stores... Most of the places my family shopped are still around down in Georgia... The individual gun stores is alive and well in the area, they just sell a little less $17/box 9mm ammo, but do a decent business being the only place to go for pistols and un-PC longarms for folks who haven't discovered the internet.... Now, we have a WM 5min away... All the small guys are still there... The only company that has really left is K-MART.... So if WM (who sells guns & ammo) can send Rosie-Mart packing, then all the better... So in the world where I go to TiresPlus for my (not sold in WM or KM or Target) high-end Camaro tires, and WM for my 9mm, get my rifle ammo from SportsmansGuide, and my guns from the internet, buy my hardware from ACE and Home Depot, and auto parts from Checker/AutoZone/Advance, WM doesn't change shit... Where else does one go for clothes, oil, ammo, and other loose ends? 90% of what I buy from WM isn't really sold by anybody but bigboxers anyway... And now, being in the Army opens up the ultimate in terrible-service, low price retailing: AAFES.... THAT is one organization that makes WM seem like saints WRT customer service... But then again, if you want to buy something on post, they're the only game in town... Their employees act like it too... |
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Posted: 10/10/2005 8:30:21 AM EDT
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"WAKE-UP CALL. Costco is a living example that a company can be extremely profitable and competitive and at the same time not destroy everything and everyone in its corporate path. "
COSTCO is run by a RADICAL leftist that donates untold MILLIONS to Democrap campaigns. gee,....and Wal-Mart donates pretty evenly, with a lean towards the right..... Any possible reason that a JOURNALIST would write an article like this? |
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Posted: 10/10/2005 8:39:12 AM EDT
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No Wal-Mart could not....: The Costco store will be the first in Wales and expands their current UK portfolio of 15 stores including Bristol, Birmingham, Reading and Liverpool. In total Costco operate stores in 570 locations and 7 countries, including 452 throughout the U.S.A and 64 in Canada. In total the Cardiff store could provide up to 250 new jobs in this important area of Cardiff. Wal-mart operates THOUSANDS of stores.... |
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Posted: 10/10/2005 9:21:48 AM EDT
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FYI....I do provide something most gunshops have no idea of, KNOWLEDGE. I have the best reputation in town for providing useable knowledge and people come back for that. Most gun dealers I have ever dealt with are total assholes and you are right, they do act as if you are priviledged to shop there. I DO NOT... ask any one that have ever dealt with me, they will tell you I am not like other shops, I DO KNOW SOMETHING about guns. Not just there to make a fast buck. I value my customer and go to every lenghts to help them. That is why they come back. And besides most of my prices ARE cheaper than cabellas (fancy walmart) and many are cheaper than china-mart. And besides, who wouldn't want to pay ALITTLE more to buy from someone who knowes more than how to push a cash register key and help you when you have a problem? Walmart customer service..... |
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Posted: 10/10/2005 12:29:18 PM EDT
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Well if you have good prices and sell knowledge as well then I don't see why the people aren't shopping at your store either. I guess I just assumed you were the average pissed off gun store owner.  A while back I went into one of these and asked the guy if he had any of the DAO Mossberg 590s. He looked at me like I was retarded and said "no, mossbergs are pump shotguns".  Things like that stick in your head. |
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Posted: 10/10/2005 1:04:02 PM EDT
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Its apples and oranges, Costco is a membership store. They get your $$ even if you dont shop there at all. Also, I have never seen a Costco in the ghetto, they ones I have seen are in the nicer part of town(read suburbs). Walmart is what it is, if you hate it so much dont shop there. Let the market place decide. If Costco is a better store they will beat WM in the arena of the free marketplace. |
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Posted: 10/10/2005 1:05:04 PM EDT
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WalMart moved into rural areas because they understood the niche market - and it made Sam Walton (and his shareholders) quite wealthy. What he offered rural customers was product choice and low prices, and they responded. Suggesting that New York and Chicago are filled with a "higher class of people" is some of the most elitist bullshit I've read in quite a while. |
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Posted: 10/10/2005 5:51:45 PM EDT
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The clientel that makes up the majority of this area almost make me a believer in gun control. There really are some people who don't need guns. I have had people come in and ask such questions as "I need some WinClean ammo because it cleans your gun as you shoot it!!!" "Will my gun get scratched up if I take it in the woods" " I need some 22 ammo so when my son shoots his little brother it won't kill him" NEED I SAY MORE??  Why don't Ole Sam offer big cities his "strategy"?? Because he caters to the trailer park mentality. Make them THINK they are getting a good deal and they will buy it. P.T. Barnum had it pegged....."there's a sucker born every minute". You look at the more affluent areas of any city and you won't see walmarts they DON"T want Walmarts lowering their standards. There are several towns around here fighting to keep wally out! |
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Posted: 10/10/2005 5:54:06 PM EDT
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Chicago currently does NOT have a Wal-Mart. They've been throwing around the idea of putting one in, on the West Side(which is a pretty nasty area. ) |
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Posted: 10/10/2005 5:57:27 PM EDT
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There you go............POINT MADE!! Thank you! I recently came back from Chicago and didn't see a walmart from Lake Forest all the way thru Chicago. |
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Posted: 10/10/2005 6:05:31 PM EDT
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Unions suck and have destroyed even themselves. |
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Posted: 10/10/2005 6:07:13 PM EDT
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Unions still suck and have destroyed the airlines. Planerench out. |
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Posted: 10/10/2005 6:10:04 PM EDT
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I bet a mexican can do your job for minimum wage. That does not make you worth $70K. 70K a year for carpentry is a crime unless you work 12 hours a day 6 days a week. |
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Posted: 10/10/2005 6:12:15 PM EDT
[#20]
They even keep their guns loaded in the glass counter 
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Posted: 10/10/2005 6:12:28 PM EDT
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Unions suck. I had a job at King Soopers (kroger) in college and the main purpose of the union was to inflate the senior employees pay and prevent them from being fired at the expense of the new hires. |
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Posted: 10/10/2005 6:12:54 PM EDT
[#22]
I have an easier time finding USA manufactured goods at Walmart than the local Mom and Pop stores. |
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Posted: 10/10/2005 6:13:49 PM EDT
[#23]
Capitalism is a bitch. Evolve or die.
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Posted: 10/10/2005 6:14:51 PM EDT
[#24]
Fuck Wal-Mart.
We would be much better off with these stores: The State Universal Store (Gosudarstvennyi Universalnyi Magazin, GUM) The Central Universal Store, (Tsentralnyi Universalnyi Magazin, TsUM) |
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Posted: 10/10/2005 6:14:54 PM EDT
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I was agreeing with you until you said that. Obviously you have not worked contstruction. Back to Walmart - I seriously, SERIOUSLY, doubt that they use "minimum wage mexicans" for their carpentry work. Check it out. |
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Posted: 10/10/2005 6:27:37 PM EDT
[#26]
They've probably got a Sams somewhere in there, though... |
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Posted: 10/10/2005 6:32:21 PM EDT
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No, but my brother in law does. He worked as a grunt pouring concrete as a high schooler, framed through his twenties, and now is a manager with an occasional help out of a labor crew. He evolves with the job. The job is worth what people will pay to have it done. Oh, and he hates unions too. That the union is involved is sad. There are few 60 year old framers/roofers. It is a manual labor job with a rotating work force. The union will demand that an old carpenter that is less productive than a young one receive more pay and benefits simply because that is how union seniority works. It does not demand that one evolve to meet his or the companies potential. I started as an aircraft mech. I never made much money but I knew what my skills were worth. I could have worked for the airlines during the salad days but it is shaky to be used to making more than you know you are worth. As I evolved and filled a niche I have made more and more money. The unions are just a protectionist system and I hate the idea of their existance in my free country. Planerench out. BTW I don't make $70K a year with a college degree maintaining and working on aircraft and I live at a great standard of living. I think the union mentality of DESERVING more is the sad thing. It kills the ability to be content which is truely one of the greatest things in life. |
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Posted: 10/10/2005 6:41:39 PM EDT
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That anti-Wal-Mart propaganda sounds exactly like something you would read on buyblue.org, they love the leftist companies like Costco. Also, why in fuck would they compare Costco to Wal-Mart and not Sams?? That's fucking idiocy.
Nobody has ever been forced to shop at a Wal-Mart so clearly they are giving their customers something they want. Apparent low prices. Ask anybody if they are willing to pay more on a consistent basis and you know what you will hear. People are convinced Wal-Mart is cheaper on every single product. They are not. Neither is Costco. The biggest problem with these big box stores, other than the fact that in most cases they demand and get illegal discriminatory pricing, is the fact that they now dictate the quality of the products we buy in order to satisfy Wall Street rather than the consumer. Wal-Mart is a symptom of our declining culture and lack of good taste, not a cause. |
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Posted: 10/10/2005 6:53:16 PM EDT
[#29]
+1000000000000000000000000 |
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Posted: 10/10/2005 6:58:14 PM EDT
[#30]
Krink - you, my friend, are a brilliant man.
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Posted: 10/10/2005 7:10:51 PM EDT
[#31]
I take that as a compliment!!
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Posted: 10/10/2005 7:31:15 PM EDT
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So a corp with the #1 market share in the country, cant compete with a smaller corp with >1/50th the market share, which also has higher overhead. Now why is that? Sounds like they either arent as efficient, or they dont care about wages. |
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Posted: 10/10/2005 7:37:30 PM EDT
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Costco and Wally World aren't really comparable. Costco is selling products in Holy Roman Empire-size portions, and their liquor department sells Hennesey XO and has a pretty damn credible selection of wines. They cater more to the soccer moms stocking up for a month.
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Posted: 10/10/2005 10:44:35 PM EDT
[#34]
They are mistaken. Wal-Mart probibly gave more to charity last year then Target earned all year and that is no joke! Wal-Mart donated over 20 million in cash just to the Hurricane Katrina disasator. They also shipped over 1,500 truck loads of goods to NOLA totaling another 50 million dollars. They were massively by far the most generous corparation in helping victims, even CNN admitted this. |
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Posted: 10/10/2005 11:27:20 PM EDT
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Let's see, how much $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$did Costco give to the Kerry campaign, Costco will not allow CCW's on its property, hmmmmmmmmmm, talk about a troll, the dude who wrote the original article, geeezzzzzz.
Costco is all about fuzzy bunnies, flower filled meadows and mother's milk. Wal-Mart is bad, they sell ammunition for the Evil Black Rifle and those hated Christian Zealots shop there. What a transparent fucking joke of a columnist that assclown is. |
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Posted: 10/10/2005 11:47:09 PM EDT
[#36]
I hope you are joking because that is really pathetic. |
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Posted: 10/10/2005 11:49:37 PM EDT
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As soon as you start paying $100/year for a Wall*Mart "membership" maybe they'll pay their employees more 
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Posted: 10/11/2005 12:00:10 AM EDT
[#38]
 The consumer is the one that dictates what quality item they are willing to purchase. Just because some big retailer sells a piece of shit item doesn't mean that everyone has to buy that piece of shit. The consumer chooses to buy the item, and if the quality is not there then they can go purchase it somewhere else where the quality is better.
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Posted: 10/11/2005 12:21:08 AM EDT
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I have shopped both Target and Wal-Mart and there is nothing at Target that you can't get at Wal-Mart, it's acctually the other way around Wal-Mart has way more stuff then Target. Wal-Mart sell the high quality stuff also and at a lower price too.
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Posted: 10/11/2005 12:50:35 AM EDT
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Everything is destroying America. Get with the program.
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Posted: 10/11/2005 6:23:02 AM EDT
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Kooter - there are many consumer items out there now that are dominated by the power buyers. They dictate quality and cost. It's not like the car market where you can chose from Kia to MB. I can go on and on about this but there is no need to. Name a big box product in which the quality has improved in the last 15 - 20 years?
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Posted: 10/11/2005 9:00:12 AM EDT
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Fishing poles, ammunition, fleece anything, anything with goretex, motor oils, DVDs(compared to VHS), etc........ I can name stuff that has improved quality all day long. The thing is that big box stores don't produce anything. They sell stuff that other people produce. Most stores will try to sell the best quality item at a price that they believe their customers will purchase. While these power buyers may buy low quality stuff, it is ultimately up to the consumer on whether to purchase the junk or not. Then the following year when the buyer goes to buy something he can look at past sales and can see that when an item was of XXX quality people bought it, and when it was of YYY no one bought it. Which one do you think they will try again? |
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Posted: 10/11/2005 10:25:41 AM EDT
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The point is; the consumer has no choice of quality when the much larger buyers (as is the case nowadays) tell the mfg. what they want and what they will pay. That is the reason you don't see many products, such as Felco, at the Wal-Mart. That is also the reason you see MAP protected items at smaller sellers and alleged "knock-offs" at the Wal-Mart, Costco type stores. This allows the illusion that the big guys are the true low-cost providers of goods, when in fact, they are not.
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Posted: 10/11/2005 10:38:43 AM EDT
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You won't find a Shimano Stradic 4000FH for less than $119 in any Walmart. Why? Because the manufacturer sets the price and Walmart agrees. That doesn't sound like Walmart is being overbearing. |
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Posted: 10/11/2005 2:32:20 PM EDT
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That doesn't sound like WM being overbearing???? Who do you think came up with this criminal concept of MAP which is nothing less than price fixing? And it is price fixing that helps keep WM profits where they want them. My God, we get screwed w/o the benefit of Vaseline everyday in broad daylight and never know what happened.
Anytime prices are fixed at a higher price than any seller might otherwise sell it, it removes effective competition and benefits the largest sellers of that product. |
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Posted: 10/11/2005 2:55:13 PM EDT
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You can debate this all you want but 10mmFan is 100% ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY, WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT.............RIGHT!!!!  Get over it!!! It's in all the retail buyers magazines, it is verified information!!!  Leest sumebody round here's got sum smarts!!! 
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Posted: 10/11/2005 3:39:00 PM EDT
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You have absolutely no fucking idea what you are talking about. Seniority does not exist in the IBEW. We are all on the same page. The lack of seniority keeps bootlicking bitches from sucking their way into more money and cushy jobs. One last time...... YOU HAVE NO FUCKING CLUE WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. Stick to what you know, otherwise you could end up looking like a dumbfuck. |
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Posted: 10/11/2005 5:46:15 PM EDT
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Ya know MrKrink, people really don't want to know the truth. They are far more comfortable in their little imaginary worlds where everything is just as it appears to be.
I hated WM when I competed against them but given the same opportunities and considering the pressure large companies and their CEOs are put under from stockholders and Wall Street, I can't say I wouldn't do what they have done. I would do so, though, knowing full well I was going to Hell. Since nobody here knows who I am and my confidentiality agreement has expired (not really) I can tell you WM and Sams are tough negotiators but they both pale in comparison to Costco. Costco is heartless and brutal. They all illegally put the powerless, hard working small businessman and his life's savings in constant jeopardy and often out of business. And through seemingly innocent sounding scams like MAP cost the average consumer thousands of dollars a year. Do people really believe WM, Sams, Costco etc. don't make huge margins? Do they grow like kudzu with smoke and mirrors? Are all those wealthiest people in the world not really Waltons? Oh, oh, I forgot. WM has a great, state of the art distribution system. That's it!  Well, after that diatribe MrKrink it's just you and me. And let me add, you, my friend, are wise beyond your years.
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Posted: 10/11/2005 10:47:52 PM EDT
[#49]
go spend a week in Bentonville with some of the wholesalers/manufactures that meet in all those little cubicle "offices" Wal-Mart uses to negotiate with vendors & see who dictates the price |
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Posted: 10/11/2005 10:51:20 PM EDT
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The last time I was at Wal-Mart everything I bought was from an american owned company but everything was made overseas.
Is that Wal-Marts fault? I don't think so |
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