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Posted: 2/14/2017 3:21:36 PM EDT
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Who in their right fucking mind thinks a global centralized planned economy would work?
These people are dangerous and need to be removed from power. |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 3:23:04 PM EDT
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Where does she mention capitalism?
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Posted: 2/14/2017 3:23:29 PM EDT
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Trump needs to pull us out of the UN, stop all of our funds going to the UN and give them 1 year to GTFO of the US.
Fuck the UN. |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 3:24:31 PM EDT
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They've slipped up before and admitted its not about the environment at all:
https://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/item/8623-un-official-admits-cap-and-trade-is-wealth-redistribution During an interview with Germany’s NZZ Online Sunday, UN official Ottmar Edenhofer declared, “We redistribute de facto the world’s wealth by climate policy.” The interview went as follows: (NZZ AM SONNTAG): The new thing about your proposal for a Global Deal is the stress on the importance of development policy for climate policy. Until now, many think of aid when they hear development policies. (OTTMAR EDENHOFER, UN IPCC OFFICIAL): That will change immediately if global emission rights are distributed. If this happens, on a per capital basis, then Africa will be the big winner, and huge amounts of money will flow there. This will have enormous implications for development policy. And it will raise the question if these countries can deal responsibly with so much money at all. |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 3:27:19 PM EDT
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Back before Glenn Beck was a complete nutter, he exposed Van Jones for stating the same thing. The Green Movement was about redistribution of wealth.
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Posted: 2/14/2017 3:27:20 PM EDT
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Where does she mention capitalism? How willfully obtuse can a person be you ask? This, this much right here. |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 3:29:12 PM EDT
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Where does she mention capitalism? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Where does she mention capitalism? Christiana Figueres quote “This is the first time in the history of mankind that we are setting ourselves the task of intentionally, within a defined period of time, to change the economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the Industrial Revolution.” Investors.com reminds Figueres that the only economic model in the last 150 years that has ever worked at all is capitalism. The evidence is prima facie: From a feudal order that lasted a thousand years, produced zero growth and kept workdays long and lifespans short, the countries that have embraced free-market capitalism have enjoyed a system in which output has increased 70-fold, work days have been halved and lifespans doubled. |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 3:29:47 PM EDT
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Back before Glenn Beck was a complete nutter, he exposed Van Jones for stating the same thing. The Green Movement was about redistribution of wealth. |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 3:30:36 PM EDT
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Where does she mention capitalism? Christiana Figueres quote “This is the first time in the history of mankind that we are setting ourselves the task of intentionally, within a defined period of time, to change the economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the Industrial Revolution.” Investors.com reminds Figueres that the only economic model in the last 150 years that has ever worked at all is capitalism. The evidence is prima facie: From a feudal order that lasted a thousand years, produced zero growth and kept workdays long and lifespans short, the countries that have embraced free-market capitalism have enjoyed a system in which output has increased 70-fold, work days have been halved and lifespans doubled. So she never mentions it. |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 3:32:17 PM EDT
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How willfully obtuse can a person be you ask? This, this much right here. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Where does she mention capitalism? How willfully obtuse can a person be you ask? This, this much right here. You do realize that there are a myriad of ways that statement can be interpreted, and that in terms of development studies such a statement does not preclude a capitalistic economic model, right? 
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Posted: 2/14/2017 3:32:39 PM EDT
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It doesn't do much good to leave a lot of the world behind. But helping them help themselves does not mean we have to suffer equally.
/sermon. |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 3:33:32 PM EDT
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So she never mentions it. Lol. You so silly CTR. |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 3:34:25 PM EDT
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You do realize that there are a myriad of ways that statement can be interpreted, and that in terms of development studies such a statement does not preclude a capitalistic economic model, right? Please enlighten us all as to what other economic model she could possibly be referring to. |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 3:37:03 PM EDT
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You do realize that there are a myriad of ways that statement can be interpreted, and that in terms of development studies such a statement does not preclude a capitalistic economic model, right? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Where does she mention capitalism? How willfully obtuse can a person be you ask? This, this much right here. You do realize that there are a myriad of ways that statement can be interpreted, and that in terms of development studies such a statement does not preclude a capitalistic economic model, right? I'm curious to hear you try to spin this into something other than what it is so... Go ahead, dazzle me. |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 3:37:58 PM EDT
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Please enlighten us all as to what other economic model she could possibly be referring to. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You do realize that there are a myriad of ways that statement can be interpreted, and that in terms of development studies such a statement does not preclude a capitalistic economic model, right? Please enlighten us all as to what other economic model she could possibly be referring to. Sustainable development. China and India being the prime examples of economic development with deleterious environmental side effects (assuming you ascribe to such theories). China's development is at best quasi-capitalism. |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 3:43:43 PM EDT
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I first read that story a few years ago.
Is ZeroHedge hard up for news? Passing off old news as breaking developments? |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 3:48:30 PM EDT
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Sustainable development. China and India being the prime examples of economic development with deleterious environmental side effects (assuming you ascribe to such theories). China's development is at best quasi-capitalism. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You do realize that there are a myriad of ways that statement can be interpreted, and that in terms of development studies such a statement does not preclude a capitalistic economic model, right? Please enlighten us all as to what other economic model she could possibly be referring to. Sustainable development. China and India being the prime examples of economic development with deleterious environmental side effects (assuming you ascribe to such theories). China's development is at best quasi-capitalism. When did those countries start their industrial revolutions? It wasn't 150 years ago. She's talking about the West. |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 3:49:56 PM EDT
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Sustainable development. China and India being the prime examples of economic development with deleterious environmental side effects (assuming you ascribe to such theories). China's development is at best quasi-capitalism. She was talking about a model that was 150 years old. China's model is as old as the collapse of communism in the late '80s. |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 3:51:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/14/2017 3:51:42 PM EDT
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Sustainable development. China and India being the prime examples of economic development with deleterious environmental side effects (assuming you ascribe to such theories). China's development is at best quasi-capitalism. And the UN's plan for sustainable development is Agenda 21 which includes plans for increased borderless control to NGO's and wealth redistribution. |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 3:51:54 PM EDT
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It's the watermelon effect, green on the outside, red on the inside.
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Posted: 2/14/2017 3:52:42 PM EDT
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Who in their right fucking mind thinks a global centralized planned economy would work? These people are dangerous and need to be removed from power. Would work at doing what? The goal is not to benefit the majority of people. It's absolute control and eventually massive reduction in population. We're talking global slavery. |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 3:53:29 PM EDT
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She was talking about a model that was 150 years old. China's model is as old as the collapse of communism in the late '80s. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sustainable development. China and India being the prime examples of economic development with deleterious environmental side effects (assuming you ascribe to such theories). China's development is at best quasi-capitalism. She was talking about a model that was 150 years old. China's model is as old as the collapse of communism in the late '80s. Notice I said examples.
In their mind the industrial development model we used and Europe used was unsustainable, especially now that more economies are being industrialized. Again, sustainable development and capitalism are not mutually exclusive, and is probably what she is referring to. |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 3:54:03 PM EDT
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Also, the UN isn't going to control China's economy. They likely won't have much say with Indian's, either.
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Posted: 2/14/2017 3:55:22 PM EDT
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And the UN's plan for sustainable development is Agenda 21 which includes plans for increased borderless control to NGO's and wealth redistribution. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sustainable development. China and India being the prime examples of economic development with deleterious environmental side effects (assuming you ascribe to such theories). China's development is at best quasi-capitalism. And the UN's plan for sustainable development is Agenda 21 which includes plans for increased borderless control to NGO's and wealth redistribution. What part of Agenda 21 is binding? |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 3:55:48 PM EDT
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Also, the UN isn't going to control China's economy. They likely won't have much say with Indian's, either. Yup. China has a nationalized economy. |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 3:56:16 PM EDT
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Also, the UN isn't going to control China's economy. They likely won't have much say with Indian's, either. So what's all of the concern then? |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 3:57:13 PM EDT
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The Green Movement was about redistribution of wealth. That doesn't capture the whole of it. They're against capitalism and in favor of socialism, which entails a lot more than just tax rates. |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 3:58:47 PM EDT
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What part of Agenda 21 is binding? How does it have to be binding if you've bought up politicians all the way down to the local level? This is the problem with NGOs. |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 3:59:02 PM EDT
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lol. That's not what she said at all.
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Posted: 2/14/2017 3:59:55 PM EDT
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So what's all of the concern then? Control of Western economies, like the US in particular. Most countries can sign something like Kyoto and then cheat on it. The US won't. Which is why it was important to avoid it. As we are seeing, there is wide pushback to the globalist agenda driven by the UN, the EU, and the Democratic party. They are not getting what they want so easily. |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 4:00:17 PM EDT
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They've slipped up before and admitted its not about the environment at all: https://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/item/8623-un-official-admits-cap-and-trade-is-wealth-redistribution During an interview with Germany’s NZZ Online Sunday, UN official Ottmar Edenhofer declared, “We redistribute de facto the world’s wealth by climate policy.” The interview went as follows: (NZZ AM SONNTAG): The new thing about your proposal for a Global Deal is the stress on the importance of development policy for climate policy. Until now, many think of aid when they hear development policies. (OTTMAR EDENHOFER, UN IPCC OFFICIAL): That will change immediately if global emission rights are distributed. If this happens, on a per capital basis, then Africa will be the big winner, and huge amounts of money will flow there. This will have enormous implications for development policy. And it will raise the question if these countries can deal responsibly with so much money at all. Do you know what NZZ stands for? |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 4:00:28 PM EDT
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Who in their right fucking mind thinks a global centralized planned economy would work? These people are dangerous and need to be removed from power. It absolutely would work--for the people doing the planning, at least. Which would be people like this. |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 4:01:48 PM EDT
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As with most everything liberals/commies say....you have to read between the lines to get at what they really mean.
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Posted: 2/14/2017 4:02:28 PM EDT
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Yup. China has a nationalized economy. China is going to do what it wants within it's abilities. It isn't going to comply with international agreements in order to virtue signal. |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 4:04:15 PM EDT
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Notice I said examples.
In their mind the industrial development model we used and Europe used was unsustainable, especially now that more economies are being industrialized. Again, sustainable development and capitalism are not mutually exclusive, and is probably what she is referring to. Being willfully blind is a sad thing 
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Posted: 2/14/2017 4:04:50 PM EDT
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Control of Western economies, like the US in particular. Most countries can sign something like Kyoto and then cheat on it. The US won't. Which is why it was important to avoid it. As we are seeing, there is wide pushback to the globalist agenda driven by the UN, the EU, and the Democratic party. They are not getting what they want so easily. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So what's all of the concern then? Control of Western economies, like the US in particular. Most countries can sign something like Kyoto and then cheat on it. The US won't. Which is why it was important to avoid it. As we are seeing, there is wide pushback to the globalist agenda driven by the UN, the EU, and the Democratic party. They are not getting what they want so easily. Which is why the US will never sign Kyoto. None of which really addresses the above article. People are reading into the statement what they want, in order to fit it within their retarded fear of a tremendously weak and impotent organization. |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 4:06:06 PM EDT
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Being willfully blind is a sad thing Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Notice I said examples.
In their mind the industrial development model we used and Europe used was unsustainable, especially now that more economies are being industrialized. Again, sustainable development and capitalism are not mutually exclusive, and is probably what she is referring to. Being willfully blind is a sad thing Irrational fear, and a lack of sound reasoning is equally sad.
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Posted: 2/14/2017 4:06:16 PM EDT
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Who in their right fucking mind thinks a global centralized planned economy would work? These people are dangerous and need to be removed from power. |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 4:13:10 PM EDT
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Which is why the US will never sign Kyoto. None of which really addresses the above article. People are reading into the statement what they want, in order to fit it within their retarded fear of a tremendously weak and impotent organization. It isn't weak and impotent when you have world leaders like Obama and Merkel who are willing to sign on to the agenda. We have all see how the elites have handled immigration and the resulting disasters. We have seen advanced countries hobble themselves by trying to use "green energy". |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 4:14:43 PM EDT
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So she never mentions it. Hmmm??????????? |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 4:15:27 PM EDT
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So what's all of the concern then? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Also, the UN isn't going to control China's economy. They likely won't have much say with Indian's, either. So what's all of the concern then? That you're doing a shit job trying to spin the article, and now ignore those who have already proven your argument to be pure shit. |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 4:16:23 PM EDT
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Sustainable development. China and India being the prime examples of economic development with deleterious environmental side effects (assuming you ascribe to such theories). China's development is at best quasi-capitalism. |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 4:17:13 PM EDT
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That doesn't capture the whole of it. They're against capitalism and in favor of socialism, which entails a lot more than just tax rates. I don't think that is exactly true. They want to control the economy and plan it. They somewhat grasp the failures of socialism. Their economic plans are more in line with fascism: government control but mostly private companies, which will have more freedom of action than you would find under true communism. The goal of the left is control. |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 4:19:04 PM EDT
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Zerohedge.
Lol. |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 4:26:37 PM EDT
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Irrational fear, and a lack of sound reasoning is equally sad. “This is the first time in the history of mankind that we are setting ourselves the task of intentionally, within a defined period of time, to change the economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the Industrial Revolution.” Leaving capitalism, communism, and socialism out of it: it is clear she is talking about political elites changing the economic development model. Is she part of a weak organization? Perhaps, but then why is she talking about such changes? The basic fact that seems to elude you is that the West in large measure has fallen for some key, destructive ideas pushed by political elites. Hence the creation of the UN, EU, the push for open borders and the push to tax carbon and move towards energy sources that may never be able to provide energy to power advanced societies. They have pushed very far into a place that is "emperor has no clothes" territory. Pushback has taken the form of Trump, Britexit, the Italian "No!" vote, and will probably ramp up as the elites double down and the self inflicted disasters continue. |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 4:31:12 PM EDT
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“This is the first time in the history of mankind that we are setting ourselves the task of intentionally, within a defined period of time, to change the economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the Industrial Revolution.” Leaving capitalism, communism, and socialism out of it: it is clear she is talking about political elites changing the economic development model. Is she part of a weak organization? Perhaps, but then why is she talking about such changes? The basic fact that seems to elude you is that the West in large measure has fallen for some key, destructive ideas pushed by political elites. Hence the creation of the UN, EU, the push for open borders and the push to tax carbon and move towards energy sources that may never be able to provide energy to power advanced societies. They have pushed very far into a place that is "emperor has no clothes" territory. Pushback has taken the form of Trump, Britexit, the Italian "No!" vote, and will probably ramp up as the elites double down and the self inflicted disasters continue. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Irrational fear, and a lack of sound reasoning is equally sad. “This is the first time in the history of mankind that we are setting ourselves the task of intentionally, within a defined period of time, to change the economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the Industrial Revolution.” Leaving capitalism, communism, and socialism out of it: it is clear she is talking about political elites changing the economic development model. Is she part of a weak organization? Perhaps, but then why is she talking about such changes? The basic fact that seems to elude you is that the West in large measure has fallen for some key, destructive ideas pushed by political elites. Hence the creation of the UN, EU, the push for open borders and the push to tax carbon and move towards energy sources that may never be able to provide energy to power advanced societies. They have pushed very far into a place that is "emperor has no clothes" territory. Pushback has taken the form of Trump, Britexit, the Italian "No!" vote, and will probably ramp up as the elites double down and the self inflicted disasters continue. He knows exactly what she means, he's just playing dumb because he agrees with it. |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 5:36:12 PM EDT
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Irrational fear, and a lack of sound reasoning is equally sad. Have you read Wikileaks? Wikileaks shows globalists agenda, global warming is the medium to achieve it. |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 6:21:56 PM EDT
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Who in their right fucking mind thinks a global centralized planned economy would work? These people are dangerous and need to be removed from power. The mentally ill liberals is who! |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 6:29:21 PM EDT
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In before someone tells us Climate Change is manmade.
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