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Posted: 3/24/2023 9:25:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Also, there was no 2A coalition.  They had people on the list of members who didn't even know about it. 
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Posted: 3/24/2023 9:27:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They had people on the list of members who didn't even know about it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Also, there was no 2A coalition. They had people on the list of members who didn't even know about it. It is as if I pulled 100 random Arfcommer and said they're all part of the .40 S&W Caliber Club Board of Trustee. |
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Posted: 3/24/2023 9:47:40 AM EDT
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I'll probably go to the convention.
I always try to make it when it's in Indianapolis or Louisville. Trump spoke last time it was in Indy. |
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Posted: 3/24/2023 9:50:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I can fully understand no weapons by rando street Joe when he walks up to POTUS. So do I but I wonder if all the people criticizing DeSantis for not letting people carry guns at his rally will be fair and do the same to Trump. |
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Posted: 3/24/2023 9:50:57 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/24/2023 9:52:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And then he enabled more gun control than Obama. He supports bump stock bans, red flag laws and raising the age to own a gun to 21. He was no friend of the 2nd Amendment and it's sad he's allowed to go up there and act like he was. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: He wouldn't be there to read the list if he hadn't defeated Hillary Clinton in an election victory that everyone thought was impossible.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6Oczyk6nCwI often criticize Trumps actions on guns as well but I really really hate the comparison to Obama. Obama was far far worse he just didn't have the ability to get anything done he would have if he could have. He made that clear after Sandy Hook. Seems like a lot of people here forgot that. |
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Posted: 3/24/2023 9:55:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So do I but I wonder if all the people criticizing DeSantis for not letting people carry guns at his rally will be fair and do the same to Trump. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I can fully understand no weapons by rando street Joe when he walks up to POTUS. So do I but I wonder if all the people criticizing DeSantis for not letting people carry guns at his rally will be fair and do the same to Trump. The USSS by Federal Law has the authority to declare gun free zones on their own whim as a matter of National Security. Florida Law does not allow FDLE (State LE tasked with protecting the Governor) to do such. The DeSantis Campaign, as a private organization under State Law can declare a gun free zone as a condition for entering their venues/events. The issue was and is that the DeSantis Campaign was declaring locations to be gun free zones; but shifting the blame to FDLE when FDLE can't do that by law. At no point with Trump, has there been any blame shifting. It is out in the open that it is the USSS declaring venues to be gun free zones per Federal Law and not the Trump campaign. |
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Posted: 3/24/2023 9:56:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I often criticize Trumps actions on guns as well but I really really hate the comparison to Obama. Obama was far far worse he just didn't have the ability to get anything done he would have if he could have. He made that clear after Sandy Hook. Seems like a lot of people here forgot that. Ask yourself this: what is worse? Wanting to do something and not getting it done, or having the ability to do anything you want and getting nothing done. Trump is a conman and its amazing fools (not directed at you) still defend him. |
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Posted: 3/24/2023 10:16:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's a "Task Force" now. https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/04/27/donald-trump-jr-launches-second-amendment-task-force-to-fight-the-left Oh for fucks sake…. Do you think he’ll actually notify the members of coalition this time around?
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Posted: 3/24/2023 10:18:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL. And there will be a lot that will eagerly swallow what he’s spewing. Ayup. One shouldn’t wonder why this country is circling the drain. |
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Posted: 3/24/2023 10:19:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Great. He can go on about how awesome he was for the 2nd amendment. Better than the current potato in chief. |
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Posted: 3/24/2023 10:23:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Better than the current potato in chief.  He was, quite literally, one of if not the most destructive presidents in regards to the 2A. Red Flag laws “Take the guns first. Due process later!” and encouraging a gun accessory to be classified as a machine-gun. |
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Posted: 3/24/2023 10:25:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And then he enabled more gun control than Obama. He supports bump stock bans, red flag laws and raising the age to own a gun to 21. He was no friend of the 2nd Amendment and it's sad he's allowed to go up there and act like he was. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: He wouldn't be there to read the list if he hadn't defeated Hillary Clinton in an election victory that everyone thought was impossible. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6Oczyk6nCwHe also banned the import of VEPR’s. |
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Posted: 3/24/2023 10:26:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's a "Task Force" now. https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/04/27/donald-trump-jr-launches-second-amendment-task-force-to-fight-the-left Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Is this where he announces another Second Amendment Coalition? It's a "Task Force" now. https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/04/27/donald-trump-jr-launches-second-amendment-task-force-to-fight-the-left 
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Posted: 3/24/2023 10:30:31 AM EDT
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Trump needs to just fade away into the sunset.......this is getting ridiculous.
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Posted: 3/24/2023 10:33:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh for fucks sake…. Do you think he’ll actually notify the members of coalition this time around? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It's a "Task Force" now. https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/04/27/donald-trump-jr-launches-second-amendment-task-force-to-fight-the-left Oh for fucks sake…. Do you think he’ll actually notify the members of coalition this time around? No shit. It just proves it was baseless rhetoric to rile the washed peasants up to vote. Just like the ‘lock her up’ chants. I think it’s a shame him and other politicians take advantage of the common man like that. It’s quite sad really. |
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Posted: 3/24/2023 10:34:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Better than the current potato in chief. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Great. He can go on about how awesome he was for the 2nd amendment. Better than the current potato in chief. |
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Posted: 3/24/2023 10:36:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No shit. It just proves it was baseless rhetoric to rile the washed peasants up to vote. Just like the 'lock her up' chants. I think it's a shame him and other politicians take advantage of the common man like that. It's quite sad really. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: It's a "Task Force" now. https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/04/27/donald-trump-jr-launches-second-amendment-task-force-to-fight-the-left Oh for fucks sake . Do you think he'll actually notify the members of coalition this time around? No shit. It just proves it was baseless rhetoric to rile the washed peasants up to vote. Just like the 'lock her up' chants. I think it's a shame him and other politicians take advantage of the common man like that. It's quite sad really. Our government and its officials are the symptoms of the disease. The disease is the apathy of the common citizen their will unwillingness to educate themselves on all things political and civil. The Founders vested in us the ultimately authority and the people throughout the decades have willingly given it up to the state. |
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Posted: 3/24/2023 10:38:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Biden is literally using the roadmap that Trump laid out for gun control. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Great. He can go on about how awesome he was for the 2nd amendment. Better than the current potato in chief. Yea but now daddy .gov isn’t sending out checks and people can be evicted and have to pay their utility bills 
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Posted: 3/24/2023 10:42:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think it js a shame that the common citizen allows themselves to ba taken advantage of. Our government and its officials are the symptoms of the disease. The disease is the apathy of the common citizen their will unwillingness to educate themselves on all things political and civil. The Founders vested in us the ultimately authority and the people throughout the decades have willingly given it up to the state. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It's a "Task Force" now. https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/04/27/donald-trump-jr-launches-second-amendment-task-force-to-fight-the-left Oh for fucks sake . Do you think he'll actually notify the members of coalition this time around? No shit. It just proves it was baseless rhetoric to rile the washed peasants up to vote. Just like the 'lock her up' chants. I think it's a shame him and other politicians take advantage of the common man like that. It's quite sad really. Our government and its officials are the symptoms of the disease. The disease is the apathy of the common citizen their will unwillingness to educate themselves on all things political and civil. The Founders vested in us the ultimately authority and the people throughout the decades have willingly given it up to the state. Absolutely. And we are talking about 90% + of the US voting block. Personal responsibility is another big one. It’s amazing how the majority of Americans think voting is a HUGE responsibility… yet that responsibility magically stops once they leave the booth. It’s astonishing and peak apathy. |
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Posted: 3/24/2023 10:42:55 AM EDT
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What day
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Posted: 3/24/2023 10:46:18 AM EDT
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It occurs to me that Trump and the NRA are about equal in their effectivity on gun control.
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Posted: 3/24/2023 10:46:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Better than the current potato in chief. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Great. He can go on about how awesome he was for the 2nd amendment. Better than the current potato in chief. So are the other 319,999,998 American citizens. What makes your particular golden calf better? |
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Posted: 3/24/2023 10:48:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't engage the Trump fanatic. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'd like to thank Trump's 2nd Amendment coalition for getting the job done. I look forward to the day he speaks at the GOA convention.  https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/406502/scotus-1--9050f554fe905bc522e74d540723b8-2755400.JPG Getting what done? Also, there was no 2A coalition. Trump's 2A coalition of SCOTUS SUPERHEROES and their Bruen decision outperformed anything a bunch of slack jawed faggot country singers and b-list celebrities could do. 
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Posted: 3/24/2023 10:48:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't engage the Trump fanatic. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'd like to thank Trump's 2nd Amendment coalition for getting the job done. I look forward to the day he speaks at the GOA convention. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/406502/scotus-1--9050f554fe905bc522e74d540723b8-2755400.JPG Getting what done? Also, there was no 2A coalition. DeSantis's boot heals just got 2 inches higher! |
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Posted: 3/24/2023 10:49:26 AM EDT
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I'll take "What are two things that I used to support, but no longer do?" for $500, Alex.
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Posted: 3/24/2023 10:51:42 AM EDT
[#27]
Can Trump just go away?
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Posted: 3/24/2023 10:52:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can Trump just go away? No. People don’t think malignant narcissist be like they are but they do. |
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Posted: 3/24/2023 11:11:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He was, quite literally, one of if not the most destructive presidents in regards to the 2A. Red Flag laws "Take the guns first. Due process later!" and encouraging a gun accessory to be classified as a machine-gun. |
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Posted: 3/24/2023 11:19:33 AM EDT
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The one and only reason I voted for Trump during the election was to get better judges on the SCOTUS. We wouldn’t have the Bruen decision 6-3 for RKBA if Hilary was in the White House instead of Donald.
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Posted: 3/24/2023 11:21:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't forget he supported changing the age to buy an Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: He was, quite literally, one of if not the most destructive presidents in regards to the 2A. Red Flag laws "Take the guns first. Due process later!" and encouraging a gun accessory to be classified as a machine-gun. |
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Posted: 3/24/2023 11:22:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The one and only reason I voted for Trump during the election was to get better judges on the SCOTUS. We wouldn’t have the Bruen decision 6-3 for RKBA if Hilary was in the White House instead of Donald. While bruen was a great decision… it’s not the be all end all many make it out to be imho. At the end of the day, courts will not save us from an ever growing and encroaching government that we the people continue to vote for. Two of the three trump (federalist society) scotus pics are marginal at best. |
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Posted: 3/24/2023 11:25:32 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't forget he supported changing the age to buy an AR to 21. Yep Fuck him |
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Posted: 3/24/2023 11:34:16 AM EDT
[#34]
FDJT
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Posted: 3/24/2023 11:58:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: While bruen was a great decision… it’s not the be all end all many make it out to be imho. At the end of the day, courts will not save us from an ever growing and encroaching government that we the people continue to vote for. Two of the three trump (federalist society) scotus pics are marginal at best. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The one and only reason I voted for Trump during the election was to get better judges on the SCOTUS. We wouldn’t have the Bruen decision 6-3 for RKBA if Hilary was in the White House instead of Donald. While bruen was a great decision… it’s not the be all end all many make it out to be imho. At the end of the day, courts will not save us from an ever growing and encroaching government that we the people continue to vote for. Two of the three trump (federalist society) scotus pics are marginal at best. I get the sentiment, but look, you have to play the hand you're dealt not the hand you wished you had. Would you prefer three more judges like left wing whack job KBJ instead? That's the choice we had. No thanks. I'll take a moderate conservative over a left-wing true believer any day. I'll vote for FDJT again if he's the nominee but I'd really rather he wasn't. I don't care what FDJT says about bump stocks, red flag laws, age limits, or whatever. I care about the SCOTUS and other federal court appointments. By the time a law gets passed it's pretty much a done deal and a signature is just about guaranteed. The whole bump stock situation is terrible, and yes, it's his responsibility 100%. But what did you expect him to do instead? Tell the American public not only should they remain legal we should allow sale of machine guns and ammunition in vending machines? Sure. Politicians don't stay in office by pissing off a large percentage of the public. He valued staying in office more than our rights. Big surprise there. |
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Posted: 3/24/2023 12:02:15 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryLololololol. Tread harder daddy. Lololololol |
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Posted: 3/24/2023 12:07:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I get the sentiment, but look, you have to play the hand you're dealt not the hand you wished you had. Would you prefer three more judges like left wing whack job KBJ instead? That's the choice we had. No thanks. I'll take a moderate conservative over a left-wing true believer any day. I'll vote for FDJT again if he's the nominee but I'd really rather he wasn't. I don't care what FDJT says about bump stocks, red flag laws, age limits, or whatever. I care about the SCOTUS and other federal court appointments. By the time a law gets passed it's pretty much a done deal and a signature is just about guaranteed. The whole bump stock situation is terrible, and yes, it's his responsibility 100%. But what did you expect him to do instead? Tell the American public not only should they remain legal we should allow sale of machine guns and ammunition in vending machines? Sure. Politicians don't stay in office by pissing off a large percentage of the public. He valued staying in office more than our rights. Big surprise there. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: The one and only reason I voted for Trump during the election was to get better judges on the SCOTUS. We wouldn’t have the Bruen decision 6-3 for RKBA if Hilary was in the White House instead of Donald. While bruen was a great decision… it’s not the be all end all many make it out to be imho. At the end of the day, courts will not save us from an ever growing and encroaching government that we the people continue to vote for. Two of the three trump (federalist society) scotus pics are marginal at best. I get the sentiment, but look, you have to play the hand you're dealt not the hand you wished you had. Would you prefer three more judges like left wing whack job KBJ instead? That's the choice we had. No thanks. I'll take a moderate conservative over a left-wing true believer any day. I'll vote for FDJT again if he's the nominee but I'd really rather he wasn't. I don't care what FDJT says about bump stocks, red flag laws, age limits, or whatever. I care about the SCOTUS and other federal court appointments. By the time a law gets passed it's pretty much a done deal and a signature is just about guaranteed. The whole bump stock situation is terrible, and yes, it's his responsibility 100%. But what did you expect him to do instead? Tell the American public not only should they remain legal we should allow sale of machine guns and ammunition in vending machines? Sure. Politicians don't stay in office by pissing off a large percentage of the public. He valued staying in office more than our rights. Big surprise there. The courts won’t save this country bro… especially placing people on the courts who helped write the patriot act. Trumps admin was a net loss as have all the other admins before his in the last 100+ years. Continuing to elect the Biden’s, Clinton’s, bush’s, Obama’s and Trumps of the world will always equal a larger government and more BoR erosion. Our country is suffering the death of 1000 cuts and it’s because we continue to elect charlatans. |
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Posted: 3/24/2023 12:07:37 PM EDT
[#38]
Last time I went to Indy for the NRA show, Alabama played.
I'd rather see that. |
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Posted: 3/24/2023 12:23:17 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Great. He can go on about how awesome he was for the 2nd amendment. What has NRA done lately? |
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Posted: 3/24/2023 12:32:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The courts won’t save this country bro… especially placing people on the courts who helped write the patriot act. Trumps admin was a net loss as have all the other admins before his in the last 100+ years. Continuing to elect the Biden’s, Clinton’s, bush’s, Obama’s and Trumps of the world will always equal a larger government and more BoR erosion. Our country is suffering the death of 1000 cuts and it’s because we continue to elect charlatans. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The one and only reason I voted for Trump during the election was to get better judges on the SCOTUS. We wouldn’t have the Bruen decision 6-3 for RKBA if Hilary was in the White House instead of Donald. While bruen was a great decision… it’s not the be all end all many make it out to be imho. At the end of the day, courts will not save us from an ever growing and encroaching government that we the people continue to vote for. Two of the three trump (federalist society) scotus pics are marginal at best. I get the sentiment, but look, you have to play the hand you're dealt not the hand you wished you had. Would you prefer three more judges like left wing whack job KBJ instead? That's the choice we had. No thanks. I'll take a moderate conservative over a left-wing true believer any day. I'll vote for FDJT again if he's the nominee but I'd really rather he wasn't. I don't care what FDJT says about bump stocks, red flag laws, age limits, or whatever. I care about the SCOTUS and other federal court appointments. By the time a law gets passed it's pretty much a done deal and a signature is just about guaranteed. The whole bump stock situation is terrible, and yes, it's his responsibility 100%. But what did you expect him to do instead? Tell the American public not only should they remain legal we should allow sale of machine guns and ammunition in vending machines? Sure. Politicians don't stay in office by pissing off a large percentage of the public. He valued staying in office more than our rights. Big surprise there. The courts won’t save this country bro… especially placing people on the courts who helped write the patriot act. Trumps admin was a net loss as have all the other admins before his in the last 100+ years. Continuing to elect the Biden’s, Clinton’s, bush’s, Obama’s and Trumps of the world will always equal a larger government and more BoR erosion. Our country is suffering the death of 1000 cuts and it’s because we continue to elect charlatans. Yeah, I get it, even SCOTUS Chief Justice Roberts has said "Don't expect the courts to save you". I care about the SCOTUS since they have the most immediate effect on issues I care about the most. Your mileage may vary. Saving the country, if that's even possible, is our job, not any branch of the government. This is why conservative lose, they want a savior to do the heavy lifting. Every whacky leftist I know is an activist, very few conservatives I know are activists. Yeah, "because they're working" is partly true, but we can do a lot more than wait for a savior. I've said it in another thread, and I'll say it again here. Nations are just another ecosystem, with predators and prey, competition/war over resources, different population groups rise and fall in power influence wealth education etc. There's no permanent saving this or any country, it's always a work in progress, always new threats and constraints. That's life. |
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Posted: 3/24/2023 12:37:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So do I but I wonder if all the people criticizing DeSantis for not letting people carry guns at his rally will be fair and do the same to Trump. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I can fully understand no weapons by rando street Joe when he walks up to POTUS. So do I but I wonder if all the people criticizing DeSantis for not letting people carry guns at his rally will be fair and do the same to Trump.  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/24/2023 12:39:28 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What has NRA done lately? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Great. He can go on about how awesome he was for the 2nd amendment. What has NRA done lately? Not much imho but they were behind bruen right? Either way.. FNRA and FDJT |
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Posted: 3/24/2023 12:40:57 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Better than the current potato in chief. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Great. He can go on about how awesome he was for the 2nd amendment. Better than the current potato in chief. That's a John Fetterman level statement.
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Posted: 3/24/2023 12:41:25 PM EDT
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It would be funny if he called out WLP and told him to resign for the good of the Assn. Probably not, but I can always hope.
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Posted: 3/24/2023 12:41:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I can fully understand no weapons by rando street Joe when he walks up to POTUS. So do I but I wonder if all the people criticizing DeSantis for not letting people carry guns at his rally will be fair and do the same to Trump. |
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Posted: 3/24/2023 12:42:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not much imho but they were behind bruen right? Either way.. FNRA and FDJT NRA-ILA yeah, Bruen The NRA itself is a shell and hasn’t done shit in years. FWLP @Honda4828 |
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Posted: 3/24/2023 12:43:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Biden is literally using the roadmap that Trump laid out for gun control. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Great. He can go on about how awesome he was for the 2nd amendment. Better than the current potato in chief. Why does it seem like every time some one raises a legitimate bitch about Trump, we inevitably will get a "What about/Better than Biden" comment? This isn't about Biden. |
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Posted: 3/24/2023 12:46:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why does it seem like every time some one raises a legitimate bitch about Trump, we inevitably will get a "What about/Better than Biden" comment? This isn't about Biden. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Great. He can go on about how awesome he was for the 2nd amendment. Better than the current potato in chief. Why does it seem like every time some one raises a legitimate bitch about Trump, we inevitably will get a "What about/Better than Biden" comment? This isn't about Biden. It all comes down to the abuse of the Administrative Procedure Act of 1946. Trump did it first. |
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Posted: 3/24/2023 12:49:43 PM EDT
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the old adages of 'actions speak louder than words' and 'the company you keep' has a lot going for them.
I want to believe; but 'I am disappoint'. |
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Posted: 3/24/2023 12:53:48 PM EDT
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