[ARCHIVED THREAD] - This thread is for complaining about and/or discussing the new YLYL rules (Page 5 of 6)
|
Quoted: Yeah, I found out today it's ok for somone to post a picture that looks like dildos, but posting an picture of a pidgeon w/ a fake tiny strap-on will get you a warning.....  Quoted: Quoted: Been trying to hang with the new thread but its awful. The dad jokes are lame and theres no spirit in it anymore. Ive heard a lot of people over the years complain about how arfcoms changed and I never really saw what they were talking about. Now Im beginning to. If they really wanted to keep both sides happy they could have put this in team. But I think they keep it in general population to keep team exclusive with low trafffic. Oh well. I wondered 10-15yrs ago when or if I'd ever question my continued use of this site. This certainly isnt the line in the sand, but when they start censoring/scrubbing breaking news and political threads that'll be it for me. Did you try using a goose instead? It's okay to make sexual goose jokes. |
|
Quoted: Thats a narrowminded indictment. Just like anything else, sense of humor evolves/changes as people mature and shaped by life experiences. Especially since humor is largly based on life experience. What was funny to me 20yrs ago is pretty damn meh nowadays. Quoted: Quoted: You’ve become so jaded that unless it is super edgy it isn’t funny? Sadly, that speaks more about your character than it does anything else. Thats a narrowminded indictment. Just like anything else, sense of humor evolves/changes as people mature and shaped by life experiences. Especially since humor is largly based on life experience. What was funny to me 20yrs ago is pretty damn meh nowadays. Again, this has been covered a thousand times. The old YLYL threads were all massive headaches for mods and staff as they required constant monitoring. A small handful of members continually pushed the boundaries of decency and the CoC which brought unwelcomed attention to the site. Posts about beastiality. Necrophilia, sex with children etc were becoming more and more frequent which pushed the line of acceptability further and further in the eyes of new members. It also fostered a level of hostility to anyone who didn’t like that kind of humor which drove many long time members away. Many of the very members you all use as examples when citing “this place sucks, none of the good guys are here anymore.” Guess what, y’all pushed them out. For the first time in my 17 years here we are seeing requests to close accounts from long time, valued members, not because of over moderation, but because the overall tone of the site has become toxic. They could no longer post without a full page of snark, eff bomb last being leveled at them etc. GD and YLYL especially has become a third world cesspool where clicques of edge lords feel they are in charge and they post whatever they want and attack members with impunity. YLYL is but a small part of turning that around. We want a site the way it used to be where members were family and we call come here, hang out and BS, have laughs and good time but also learn and share our experiences without being attacked mercilessly. Before y’all start the endless calls for “ban the offenders,” we did and continue to do so. BUT, every time we did there would be ire and rage and “free so and so” Posts and avatars for weeks. Many of you are going to bitch and moan no matter what. We are damned if we do, damned if we don’t. So we are doing. We are cleaning up messes that have been left to fester for far too long. And it is working. Long time members are coming back and thanking us for making this a site they feel comfortable being part of again. We have a long way to go, many of the things we do will never affect you or be noticed by the masses. But we are doing them. The question that remains is, do you want to be part of the problem or the solution? |
|
Quoted: The question that remains is, do you want to be part of the problem or the solution? WTH you yelling about? I never posted that garbage and never said I approve. However theres nothing wrong with edgy/dark humor and it isnt indicative of a bad character. Thats horsehit. Hell you've got "$20 is $20" in your sigline with a Bible verse directly above it. You're barkin up the wrong tree with that tl;dr wall of text. |
|
Quoted: WTH you yelling about? I never posted that garbage and never said I approve. Theres nothing wrong with edgy/dark humor and it isnt indicative of a bad character. Thats horsehit. You're barkin up the wrong tree with that tl;dr wall of text. Quoted: Quoted: The question that remains is, do you want to be part of the problem or the solution? WTH you yelling about? I never posted that garbage and never said I approve. Theres nothing wrong with edgy/dark humor and it isnt indicative of a bad character. Thats horsehit. You're barkin up the wrong tree with that tl;dr wall of text. You people are acting like the threads were shut down because someone flew juuuuuuust a bit too close to the sun. Not the case. They didn't step over the line. They jumped over it like an Olympic-hopeful female Italian long jumper and then had the unmitigated gall to accuse everyone else of having a sandy vag. |
|
Quoted: WTH you yelling about? I never posted that garbage and never said I approve. However theres nothing wrong with edgy/dark humor and it isnt indicative of a bad character. Thats horsehit. Hell you've got "$20 is $20" in your sigline with a Bible verse directly above it. You're barkin up the wrong tree with that tl;dr wall of text. Quoted: Quoted: The question that remains is, do you want to be part of the problem or the solution? WTH you yelling about? I never posted that garbage and never said I approve. However theres nothing wrong with edgy/dark humor and it isnt indicative of a bad character. Thats horsehit. Hell you've got "$20 is $20" in your sigline with a Bible verse directly above it. You're barkin up the wrong tree with that tl;dr wall of text. You came to me with the questions, I didn't knock on your door. I answered with the truth and a solid answer, you can't be bothered to read it as it is too long. Entirely YOUR issues, not mine. So it appears, you are barking up MY TREE and I can guarantee it is the wrong damn tree for you to piss on. Now, if you want to discuss the issues, I am happy to. NOWHERE did I EVER say "you did this" or "you did that." I made general comments as to the overall tone and demeanor of posters in ALL of the previous iterations of the YLYL threads. Again, do you want to continue shitting in threads or be part of the solution? Yes, I am asking YOU DIRECTLY NOW THAT YOU HAVE SHIT IN THIS ONE by calling me out. 
|
|
Quoted: So it appears, you are barking up MY TREE and I can guarantee it is the wrong damn tree for you to piss on. Again, do you want to continue shitting in threads or be part of the solution? Yes, I am asking YOU DIRECTLY NOW THAT YOU HAVE SHIT IN THIS ONE by calling me out. Is overreacting the new mod intervention style? I didnt know you guys threatened members now. Apparently you dont know what barking up the wrong tree means. |
|
Quoted: Is overreacting the new mod intervention style? I didnt know you guys threatened members now. Apparently you dont know what barking up the wrong tree means. Quoted: Quoted: So it appears, you are barking up MY TREE and I can guarantee it is the wrong damn tree for you to piss on. Again, do you want to continue shitting in threads or be part of the solution? Yes, I am asking YOU DIRECTLY NOW THAT YOU HAVE SHIT IN THIS ONE by calling me out. Is overreacting the new mod intervention style? I didnt know you guys threatened members now. Apparently you dont know what barking up the wrong tree means. Apparently you don't want to discuss the issue, you just want to cast aspersions and run away. That is fine. No overreaction here, I directly responded to your snarky "TL:DR" reply with the same aplomb and finesse that you asked. |
|
Quoted: Really? Sounded like you were cocking the hammer and threatening to abuse your power. I didnt realize you were a mod. I'll save any discussions/complaints to share with members. --click-- Quoted: Quoted: No overreaction here Really? Sounded like you were cocking the hammer and threatening to abuse your power. I didnt realize you were a mod. I'll save any discussions/complaints to share with members. --click-- No, just growing weary of people looking to bitch and moan about things and not bothering to read the answers to the questions asked. |
|
I still don't understand why you can't just ban offenders. And yes I've heard the reasons, which are just excuses, don't have the time to moderate? Don't be a moderator. I was a bit reluctant to renew my current membership because of this same shit going on last summer/fall. Now it seems the "line" is being kept intentionally vague, and that's bullshit. I'll ride this year out and become a freeloader and waster of resources, but I'm not paying for this shit anymore. |
|
Quoted: I still don't understand why you can't just ban offenders. And yes I've heard the reasons, which are just excuses, don't have the time to moderate? Don't be a moderator. I was a bit reluctant to renew my current membership because of this same shit going on last summer/fall. Now it seems the "line" is being kept intentionally vague, and that's bullshit. I'll ride this year out and become a freeloader and waster of resources, but I'm not paying for this shit anymore. They can, have, and do ban offenders. The line is only vague if you are some kind of low-functioning autist. |
|
Quoted: They can, have, and do ban offenders. The line is only vague if you are some kind of low-functioning autist. See, implying I'm a low functioning autist is a personal attack, which is a violation of the COC. How clear is that line gonna be now? Do you expect a warning or even a ban? |
|
Quoted: I still don't understand why you can't just ban offenders. And yes I've heard the reasons, which are just excuses, don't have the time to moderate? Don't be a moderator. I was a bit reluctant to renew my current membership because of this same shit going on last summer/fall. Now it seems the "line" is being kept intentionally vague, and that's bullshit. I'll ride this year out and become a freeloader and waster of resources, but I'm not paying for this shit anymore. See my wall of text several posts back. It explains everything. Again, people want to complain without reading the responses of why and how. I get it, people gotta vent. But the short answer is, we are banning the offenders. But we aren't allowing the edgy stuff, PERIOD. That stuff is done. It's not hard. DK_Prof laid it out pretty simply. I've noticed, most people complaining haven't posted in the new YLYL thread. Many complain about it sucking, but haven't contributed. Thats no different than bitching about Joe Biden when you didn't get off your ass and vote.
|
|
Quoted: No, just growing weary of people looking to bitch and moan about things and not bothering to read the answers to the questions asked. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: No overreaction here Really? Sounded like you were cocking the hammer and threatening to abuse your power. I didnt realize you were a mod. I'll save any discussions/complaints to share with members. --click-- No, just growing weary of people looking to bitch and moan about things and not bothering to read the answers to the questions asked. You and a couple of other mods definitely handle this topic with greater hostility, condescension and disdain towards the membership than others do. Maybe if you didn't use the terminology or phrasing that has been demonstrated repeatedly, people wouldn't be as agitated. I'd argue that some of the stuff said is deliberate to elicit a negative response, which is against CoC. If it isn't deliberate, then you just sound angry and demeaning. Just my opinion, but I've seen the same wording used by multiple mods and it always starts another argument. |
|
Quoted: See, implying I'm a low functioning autist is a personal attack, which is a violation of the COC. How clear is that line gonna be now? Do you expect a warning or even a ban? Quoted: Quoted: They can, have, and do ban offenders. The line is only vague if you are some kind of low-functioning autist. See, implying I'm a low functioning autist is a personal attack, which is a violation of the COC. How clear is that line gonna be now? Do you expect a warning or even a ban? Calling you a low-functioning autist would be a personal attack. Implying that anyone that cannot figure out how to adult in an adult setting may be a low-functioning autist would not be a personal attack. At that point it is no longer my problem if you choose to self-identify. |
|
Quoted: See my wall of text several posts back. It explains everything. Again, people want to complain without reading the responses of why and how. I get it, people gotta vent. But the short answer is, we are banning the offenders. But we aren't allowing the edgy stuff, PERIOD. That stuff is done. It's not hard. DK_Prof laid it out pretty simply. I've noticed, most people complaining haven't posted in the new YLYL thread. Many complain about it sucking, but haven't contributed. Thats no different than bitching about Joe Biden when you didn't get off your ass and vote. I'm sure more than a few people won't post in that thread for fear of whatever they post resulting in a warning or ban. I'm sure several folks have stopped or greatly reduced posting in general for fear of reprisal. |
|
Quoted: You and a couple of other mods definitely handle this topic with greater hostility, condescension and disdain towards the membership than others do. Maybe if you didn't use the terminology or phrasing that has been demonstrated repeatedly, people wouldn't be as agitated. I'd argue that some of the stuff said is deliberate to elicit a negative response, which is against CoC. If it isn't deliberate, then you just sound angry and demeaning. Just my opinion, but I've seen the same wording used by multiple mods and it always starts another argument. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: No overreaction here Really? Sounded like you were cocking the hammer and threatening to abuse your power. I didnt realize you were a mod. I'll save any discussions/complaints to share with members. --click-- No, just growing weary of people looking to bitch and moan about things and not bothering to read the answers to the questions asked. You and a couple of other mods definitely handle this topic with greater hostility, condescension and disdain towards the membership than others do. Maybe if you didn't use the terminology or phrasing that has been demonstrated repeatedly, people wouldn't be as agitated. I'd argue that some of the stuff said is deliberate to elicit a negative response, which is against CoC. If it isn't deliberate, then you just sound angry and demeaning. Just my opinion, but I've seen the same wording used by multiple mods and it always starts another argument. How many ways would you like me to explain it so it hits home? How many times can we answer the same thing, over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over to infinity... every day, both here, in IM and email? Again, many don't want the answer. Many don't want a solution. Many just want to bitch, moan and gripe. Ok, that's fine. I don't take it personally, but when the same answer is posted ad nauseam and people 1) don't read it, 2) don't believe it if they do read it and 3) Read it, understand it and BM&G anyway, it get's old. But that is part of the job. I am not responsible for how you or anyone else interprets what I say. I try to be as clear as a spring day in these threads. If people take offense or feel threatened, that is on them. I don't recall ever having issued a warning to someone for expressing their opinion in a discussion. My motto in most everything I do is "you can disagree without being disagreeable." If more people adopted that philosophy, we wouldn't have the issues we do. 
|
|
Quoted: See my wall of text several posts back. It explains everything. Again, people want to complain without reading the responses of why and how. I get it, people gotta vent. But the short answer is, we are banning the offenders. But we aren't allowing the edgy stuff, PERIOD. That stuff is done. It's not hard. DK_Prof laid it out pretty simply. I've noticed, most people complaining haven't posted in the new YLYL thread. Many complain about it sucking, but haven't contributed. Thats no different than bitching about Joe Biden when you didn't get off your ass and vote. I've read the whys and hows and I still say its bullshit. You guys say edgy is gone, but remain gray about where the actual edge is. If you were to enforce the coc 100% as written, the poster 4 up from yours would be at least warned and the post removed because it's a personal attack, but that's not gonna happen . Name calling doesn't bother me, and I don't care what dude thinks but it is illustrative of my point. Yes, the new ylyl thread does suck, vanilla as fuck. No, I have not contributed to the new thread, because again, what is "edgy" is subjective to the mod on duty. |
|
Quoted: Calling you a low-functioning autist would be a personal attack. Implying that anyone that cannot figure out how to adult in an adult setting may be a low-functioning autist would not be a personal attack. At that point it is no longer my problem if you choose to self-identify. So, you totally missed my point. |
|
Quoted: I'm sure more than a few people won't post in that thread for fear of whatever they post resulting in a warning or ban. I'm sure several folks have stopped or greatly reduced posting in general for fear of reprisal. Quoted: Quoted: See my wall of text several posts back. It explains everything. Again, people want to complain without reading the responses of why and how. I get it, people gotta vent. But the short answer is, we are banning the offenders. But we aren't allowing the edgy stuff, PERIOD. That stuff is done. It's not hard. DK_Prof laid it out pretty simply. I've noticed, most people complaining haven't posted in the new YLYL thread. Many complain about it sucking, but haven't contributed. Thats no different than bitching about Joe Biden when you didn't get off your ass and vote. I'm sure more than a few people won't post in that thread for fear of whatever they post resulting in a warning or ban. I'm sure several folks have stopped or greatly reduced posting in general for fear of reprisal. that is a valid point, and DK_Prof clearly outline what is acceptable and what isn't. If in doubt, don't post it or ask a mod or staffer for an opinion. Either way, how is it so many people can't find ANYTHING on the vast internet that is funny that doesn't involve pornography, necrophilia, Nazism and anti-semitism, racism etc... you know, all those things that have been against the CoC since day 1 on ARFCOM? Y'all are your own worst enemies in this situation. You complain about "this thread sucks" yet you don't contribute to the YLYL because you simply can't find anything funny that isn't a CoC Violation. That is sad. |
|
Quoted: So, you totally missed my point. Quoted: Quoted: Calling you a low-functioning autist would be a personal attack. Implying that anyone that cannot figure out how to adult in an adult setting may be a low-functioning autist would not be a personal attack. At that point it is no longer my problem if you choose to self-identify. So, you totally missed my point. Your point wasn't nearly as deep and profound as you think it is. |
|
Quoted: I've read the whys and hows and I still say its bullshit. You guys say edgy is gone, but remain gray about where the actual edge is. If you were to enforce the coc 100% as written, the poster 4 up from yours would be at least warned and the post removed because it's a personal attack, but that's not gonna happen . Name calling doesn't bother me, and I don't care what dude thinks but it is illustrative of my point. Yes, the new ylyl thread does suck, vanilla as fuck. No, I have not contributed to the new thread, because again, what is "edgy" is subjective to the mod on duty. Quoted: Quoted: See my wall of text several posts back. It explains everything. Again, people want to complain without reading the responses of why and how. I get it, people gotta vent. But the short answer is, we are banning the offenders. But we aren't allowing the edgy stuff, PERIOD. That stuff is done. It's not hard. DK_Prof laid it out pretty simply. I've noticed, most people complaining haven't posted in the new YLYL thread. Many complain about it sucking, but haven't contributed. Thats no different than bitching about Joe Biden when you didn't get off your ass and vote. I've read the whys and hows and I still say its bullshit. You guys say edgy is gone, but remain gray about where the actual edge is. If you were to enforce the coc 100% as written, the poster 4 up from yours would be at least warned and the post removed because it's a personal attack, but that's not gonna happen . Name calling doesn't bother me, and I don't care what dude thinks but it is illustrative of my point. Yes, the new ylyl thread does suck, vanilla as fuck. No, I have not contributed to the new thread, because again, what is "edgy" is subjective to the mod on duty. During the great brouhaha that followed the banning of ylyl threads, it was suggested ad nauseum to nominate a new mod, of which they would only have mod powers for ylyl threads. Single mod continuity. IIRC several prominent and respected old timers volunteered for that position. That would have been the best approach imho. But of course in classic fashion that suggestion wasn't even given a cursory consideration. |
|
Quoted: Your point wasn't nearly as deep and profound as you think it is. No, its not deep or profound, It's overt hypocrisy and just plain laziness. Most read this thread title as "This thread is for complaining about and/or discussing the new YLYL rules", but somehow you got "Lets snarkily white knight arfcoms new enforcement policies" But whatever, you can keep trying to insult me, I give a fuck what you think. |
|
Quoted: No, its not deep or profound, It's overt hypocrisy and just plain laziness. Most read this thread title as "This thread is for complaining about and/or discussing the new YLYL rules", but somehow you got "Lets snarkily white knight arfcoms new enforcement policies" But whatever, you can keep trying to insult me, I give a fuck what you think. Quoted: Quoted: Your point wasn't nearly as deep and profound as you think it is. No, its not deep or profound, It's overt hypocrisy and just plain laziness. Most read this thread title as "This thread is for complaining about and/or discussing the new YLYL rules", but somehow you got "Lets snarkily white knight arfcoms new enforcement policies" But whatever, you can keep trying to insult me, I give a fuck what you think. Discussion occasionally involves opposing viewpoints. Since you apparently don't give a fuck about those that run counter to your own you are obviously here to bitch, not discuss. |
|
Quoted: How many ways would you like me to explain it so it hits home? How many times can we answer the same thing, over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over to infinity... every day, both here, in IM and email? Again, many don't want the answer. Many don't want a solution. Many just want to bitch, moan and gripe. Ok, that's fine. I don't take it personally, but when the same answer is posted ad nauseam and people 1) don't read it, 2) don't believe it if they do read it and 3) Read it, understand it and BM&G anyway, it get's old. But that is part of the job. I am not responsible for how you or anyone else interprets what I say. I try to be as clear as a spring day in these threads. If people take offense or feel threatened, that is on them. I don't recall ever having issued a warning to someone for expressing their opinion in a discussion. My motto in most everything I do is "you can disagree without being disagreeable." If more people adopted that philosophy, we wouldn't have the issues we do. If only that were applied instead of censoring and editing everyone, there wouldn't be an issue. |
|
Quoted: that is a valid point, and DK_Prof clearly outline what is acceptable and what isn't. If in doubt, don't post it or ask a mod or staffer for an opinion. Either way, how is it so many people can't find ANYTHING on the vast internet that is funny that doesn't involve pornography, necrophilia, Nazism and anti-semitism, racism etc... you know, all those things that have been against the CoC since day 1 on ARFCOM? Y'all are your own worst enemies in this situation. You complain about "this thread sucks" yet you don't contribute to the YLYL because you simply can't find anything funny that isn't a CoC Violation. That is sad. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: See my wall of text several posts back. It explains everything. Again, people want to complain without reading the responses of why and how. I get it, people gotta vent. But the short answer is, we are banning the offenders. But we aren't allowing the edgy stuff, PERIOD. That stuff is done. It's not hard. DK_Prof laid it out pretty simply. I've noticed, most people complaining haven't posted in the new YLYL thread. Many complain about it sucking, but haven't contributed. Thats no different than bitching about Joe Biden when you didn't get off your ass and vote. I'm sure more than a few people won't post in that thread for fear of whatever they post resulting in a warning or ban. I'm sure several folks have stopped or greatly reduced posting in general for fear of reprisal. that is a valid point, and DK_Prof clearly outline what is acceptable and what isn't. If in doubt, don't post it or ask a mod or staffer for an opinion. Either way, how is it so many people can't find ANYTHING on the vast internet that is funny that doesn't involve pornography, necrophilia, Nazism and anti-semitism, racism etc... you know, all those things that have been against the CoC since day 1 on ARFCOM? Y'all are your own worst enemies in this situation. You complain about "this thread sucks" yet you don't contribute to the YLYL because you simply can't find anything funny that isn't a CoC Violation. That is sad. Subjective application makes it difficult to trust any meme being posted as acceptable. There's always going to be someone that will find offense with anything. It's better to not post and avoid the thread. I post in this one because as I said previously, I believe this one will actually be more entertaining than the other one. |
|
Quoted: During the great brouhaha that followed the banning of ylyl threads, it was suggested ad nauseum to nominate a new mod, of which they would only have mod powers for ylyl threads. Single mod continuity. IIRC several prominent and respected old timers volunteered for that position. That would have been the best approach imho. But of course in classic fashion that suggestion wasn't even given a cursory consideration. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: See my wall of text several posts back. It explains everything. Again, people want to complain without reading the responses of why and how. I get it, people gotta vent. But the short answer is, we are banning the offenders. But we aren't allowing the edgy stuff, PERIOD. That stuff is done. It's not hard. DK_Prof laid it out pretty simply. I've noticed, most people complaining haven't posted in the new YLYL thread. Many complain about it sucking, but haven't contributed. Thats no different than bitching about Joe Biden when you didn't get off your ass and vote. I've read the whys and hows and I still say its bullshit. You guys say edgy is gone, but remain gray about where the actual edge is. If you were to enforce the coc 100% as written, the poster 4 up from yours would be at least warned and the post removed because it's a personal attack, but that's not gonna happen . Name calling doesn't bother me, and I don't care what dude thinks but it is illustrative of my point. Yes, the new ylyl thread does suck, vanilla as fuck. No, I have not contributed to the new thread, because again, what is "edgy" is subjective to the mod on duty. During the great brouhaha that followed the banning of ylyl threads, it was suggested ad nauseum to nominate a new mod, of which they would only have mod powers for ylyl threads. Single mod continuity. IIRC several prominent and respected old timers volunteered for that position. That would have been the best approach imho. But of course in classic fashion that suggestion wasn't even given a cursory consideration. That request was heard and granted. DK_Prof is the boss in the YLYL threads. Mods and staff can step in as he can't be online 24/7, but generally we defer to him. |
|
Quoted: Read the title again, real slow this time. Quoted: Quoted: Discussion occasionally involves opposing viewpoints. Since you apparently don't give a fuck about those that run counter to your own you are obviously here to bitch, not discuss. Read the title again, real slow this time. This thread is for complaining about and/or discussing the new YLYL rules Your turn Sport. |
|
Quoted: Subjective application makes it difficult to trust any meme being posted as acceptable. There's always going to be someone that will find offense with anything. It's better to not post and avoid the thread. I post in this one because as I said previously, I believe this one will actually be more entertaining than the other one. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: See my wall of text several posts back. It explains everything. Again, people want to complain without reading the responses of why and how. I get it, people gotta vent. But the short answer is, we are banning the offenders. But we aren't allowing the edgy stuff, PERIOD. That stuff is done. It's not hard. DK_Prof laid it out pretty simply. I've noticed, most people complaining haven't posted in the new YLYL thread. Many complain about it sucking, but haven't contributed. Thats no different than bitching about Joe Biden when you didn't get off your ass and vote. I'm sure more than a few people won't post in that thread for fear of whatever they post resulting in a warning or ban. I'm sure several folks have stopped or greatly reduced posting in general for fear of reprisal. that is a valid point, and DK_Prof clearly outline what is acceptable and what isn't. If in doubt, don't post it or ask a mod or staffer for an opinion. Either way, how is it so many people can't find ANYTHING on the vast internet that is funny that doesn't involve pornography, necrophilia, Nazism and anti-semitism, racism etc... you know, all those things that have been against the CoC since day 1 on ARFCOM? Y'all are your own worst enemies in this situation. You complain about "this thread sucks" yet you don't contribute to the YLYL because you simply can't find anything funny that isn't a CoC Violation. That is sad. Subjective application makes it difficult to trust any meme being posted as acceptable. There's always going to be someone that will find offense with anything. It's better to not post and avoid the thread. I post in this one because as I said previously, I believe this one will actually be more entertaining than the other one. It has to be subjective by the very nature of it. THere is no other way to do it unless we go to the Facebook and twitter style of auto censorship and account bombing. That is an option, moderators would be replaced with algorithms that scan millions of posts an hour looking for infractions and banning the offender. I don't see that as a viable option, if you think what we have now sucks, that would really suck. |
|
Quoted: This thread is for complaining about and/or discussing the new YLYL rules Your turn Sport. I'm sorry you're having such a hard time with this, it's almost like you just don't see things you don't want to see. com·plain /k?m'plan/ verb 1. express dissatisfaction or annoyance about something. "local authorities complained that they lacked sufficient resources" "I came here to express my opinion, because that's what here is for" But you insist on arguing with me, that's weird. |
|
Quoted: I'm sorry you're having such a hard time with this, it's almost like you just don't see things you don't want to see. com·plain /k?m'plan/ verb 1. express dissatisfaction or annoyance about something. "local authorities complained that they lacked sufficient resources" "I came here to express my opinion, because that's what here is for" But you insist on arguing with me, that's weird. Quoted: Quoted: This thread is for complaining about and/or discussing the new YLYL rules Your turn Sport. I'm sorry you're having such a hard time with this, it's almost like you just don't see things you don't want to see. com·plain /k?m'plan/ verb 1. express dissatisfaction or annoyance about something. "local authorities complained that they lacked sufficient resources" "I came here to express my opinion, because that's what here is for" But you insist on arguing with me, that's weird. discussion noun dis·?cus·?sion | \ di-'sk?-sh?n \ Kids Definition of discussion : conversation for the purpose of understanding or debating a question or subject |
|
Quoted: It has to be subjective by the very nature of it. THere is no other way to do it unless we go to the Facebook and twitter style of auto censorship and account bombing. That is an option, moderators would be replaced with algorithms that scan millions of posts an hour looking for infractions and banning the offender. I don't see that as a viable option, if you think what we have now sucks, that would really suck. But to his point, both of those things lead to the same place. An algorithm that auto bans or posters not posting because no one will make a definitive call net you the same result. I will be reluctant to post anything while I'm a paid member, which makes being a paid member a lot less attractive. |
|
Quoted: Now you're being intentionally obtuse, find somebody else to flirt with. Quoted: Quoted: discussion noun dis·?cus·?sion | \ di-'sk?-sh?n Kids Definition of discussion : conversation for the purpose of understanding or debating a question or subject Now you're being intentionally obtuse, find somebody else to flirt with. Man, I even used the kids definition. No wonder you struggle with the discussion side of this. |
|
Quoted: Man, I even used the kids definition. No wonder you struggle with the discussion side of this. If you insist, It's not enough to just understand the words, it's their context when placed together. and/or phrase of and either or both of two stated possibilities. "audio and/or video components" Neither mutually inclusive or exclusive. |
|
Quoted: If you insist, It's not enough to just understand the words, it's their context when placed together. and/or phrase of and either or both of two stated possibilities. "audio and/or video components" Neither mutually inclusive or exclusive. Quoted: Quoted: Man, I even used the kids definition. No wonder you struggle with the discussion side of this. If you insist, It's not enough to just understand the words, it's their context when placed together. and/or phrase of and either or both of two stated possibilities. "audio and/or video components" Neither mutually inclusive or exclusive. You will note that one of the first things I pointed out was your umbrage at the discussion portion of that and/or. |
|
Quoted: I don't wants lots of discussion and suggestions or complaints in the YLYL thread, because that should ONLY be fun stuff. Link to YLYL thread I am talking about: https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/You-Laugh-You-Lose-Official-Thread-READ-THE-OP-BEFORE-POSTING-/5-2438676/?r=91865030&page=1&anc=91865030#i91865030 I expected more from a professor with tenure. |