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Link Posted: 10/14/2009 11:38:23 AM EDT
[#1]



Quoted:


It's infuriating what this administration is doing to our country. Where is it going to stop?


It won't, it's just going to keep getting worse as more and more socialism is shoved down our throats.

 
Link Posted: 10/14/2009 11:41:22 AM EDT
[#2]
damn, a scrap trucker just schooled everyone on .gov math.  





not saying you aren't smart or ragging on your profession.  You would just think this sort of scenario would have been caught long before it was presented to you for analysis.  FAIL so full of FAIL.
Link Posted: 10/14/2009 11:45:40 AM EDT
[#3]
The Chinese will return all of that scrap one day, just like Japan did in WWII.
Link Posted: 10/14/2009 11:48:59 AM EDT
[#4]
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I drive a `95 honda civic with 200k miles.  I would gladly have paid cash of $2250 for the .gov's $4500 give-away.

This is infuriating.


Mines a '94.  It would not have qualified, nor would I have taken advantage if it did.  Its mind boggling.
Link Posted: 10/14/2009 11:50:29 AM EDT
[#5]
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Every single one of those is in better condition (and much newer) than any of my vehicles.


Same here.

Our government at fail.

Link Posted: 10/14/2009 11:50:40 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
Look at all that created wealth.  When I get home I'm going to put $20 in my left pocket, take it out, put it in my right pocket and see how much money I have.



incorrect.

Take that $20 our of your left pocket, cut it in half.  Throw one half away and then put the other half in your right pocket.
Link Posted: 10/14/2009 11:56:00 AM EDT
[#7]
Everything the government does is a big stinking pile of shit.
Link Posted: 10/14/2009 11:58:21 AM EDT
[#8]
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I asked a few questions,

They cannot sell the whole vehicle, but can sell all/any parts, except engine, (which is useless, anyway)
 


Define, "whole vehicle".

If they just take the engine out of it, then they could sell that, correct??



This is from the guy at my local bone yard (I spend a lot of time there) the engine block cannot be sold except for scrap, accessories on engine can be sold, the rest of the drive-train may be sold, but not as a whole.  Everything else except the frame may be sold for re-use, but the engine block and frame are condemned and may not be re-used or sold for any purpose other than recycled metal.  After 6 months the remainder MUST be crushed on-site and proof of destruction MUST be provided to the Secretary of State.
Link Posted: 10/14/2009 11:59:49 AM EDT
[#9]
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now do they pour a mixture to kill the engine so people don't cheat?


This has to be done at the dealer before they can even apply for the money.
Link Posted: 10/14/2009 12:02:03 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
I asked a few questions,

They cannot sell the whole vehicle, but can sell all/any parts, except engine, (which is useless, anyway)
 


Define, "whole vehicle".

If they just take the engine out of it, then they could sell that, correct??



And if so where do I find a list of places that have them?


This place has 500 of them here.
Link Posted: 10/14/2009 12:03:45 PM EDT
[#11]
fucking mOron.  I did not do the cash for clunkers, I'd rather keep my 94 4x4 burb (runs great); But those Jeeps would have been great grocery getters for the wife and me.  WTF?!? mOron!!
Link Posted: 10/14/2009 12:04:10 PM EDT
[#12]
Link Posted: 10/14/2009 12:08:24 PM EDT
[#13]
Another fricken joke at the expense of the taxpayers, courtesy of our strong central Federal government.
Link Posted: 10/14/2009 12:08:33 PM EDT
[#14]
what a waste (the cars and the money)
Link Posted: 10/14/2009 12:13:01 PM EDT
[#15]
the really sad part of this is that the people who voted for him, think it was a good deal, economically speaking that is, and a GREAT deal for the environment.

fucking retards

TXL
Link Posted: 10/14/2009 12:13:52 PM EDT
[#16]
Link Posted: 10/14/2009 12:16:43 PM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
Most of those are newer and nicer than my daily driver.

ETA: is there a list of locations with those cars available?  I'm sure there are plenty of usable parts on them.


I know, what a sweet plan!
Link Posted: 10/14/2009 12:19:44 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
the really sad part of this is that the people who voted for him, think it was a good deal, economically speaking that is, and a GREAT deal for the environment.

fucking retards

TXL


Yup, this pisses me off the most!


full retards
Link Posted: 10/14/2009 12:22:36 PM EDT
[#19]
I was just thinking, Stimulus II will probably have another, BIGGER, Cash for Clunkers.
Link Posted: 10/14/2009 12:24:08 PM EDT
[#20]
My car is 19 years old but got too good of mileage and was too old to get the $$
Link Posted: 10/14/2009 12:24:44 PM EDT
[#21]
There's a LOT of nice Jeeps there.

This whole program still makes me mad as a motherfucker.
Link Posted: 10/14/2009 12:25:11 PM EDT
[#22]
All of those are nicer than what I drive! WTF???
Link Posted: 10/14/2009 12:25:37 PM EDT
[#23]



Damn!  I'll take that Cherokee!


Link Posted: 10/14/2009 12:32:12 PM EDT
[#24]
Those cars are better than the car I drive. Fuckers!
Link Posted: 10/14/2009 12:33:16 PM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
That idiot Obama is doing to the economy what that press does to those vehicles.


Congress too. All those bastards need to go.
Link Posted: 10/14/2009 12:37:37 PM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
http://alpinetools.net/misc/photos/clunkers/clunker-09s.jpg


Damn!  I'll take that Cherokee!




Yea I know! Thats like NEW.
Link Posted: 10/14/2009 12:38:01 PM EDT
[#27]
holy shit those are nicer than what i drive.  I'd kill for one of those, and i'd probably pay more than 4500 for one of the really nice ones.

stupid cocks in congress...
Link Posted: 10/14/2009 12:40:04 PM EDT
[#28]
History will regard that "program" as one of the greatest boondoggles ever.
Link Posted: 10/14/2009 12:42:13 PM EDT
[#29]



Quoted:



Quoted:

the really sad part of this is that the people who voted for him, think it was a good deal, economically speaking that is, and a GREAT deal for the environment.



fucking retards



TXL




Yup, this pisses me off the most!






full retards


Cars for clunkers did more for Japanese companies than american.



In the long run, it probably screwed the american companies because most those cars turned in (besides being practically all american) would have still be on the road for several more years. The manufacturers could have made some money on OEM replacement parts for those cars (and yes I know there are many places you can get replacement parts). Plus now that these are being parted out, that adds to the blow.



 
Link Posted: 10/14/2009 12:43:40 PM EDT
[#30]
So the determination is that we can't go and buy the whole thing less engine, and then put a new engine in the car and register it? Damn, I was hoping to get a vehicle on the cheap out of this.
Link Posted: 10/14/2009 12:49:22 PM EDT
[#31]
Quoted:
the really sad part of this is that the people who voted for him, think it was a good deal, economically speaking that is, and a GREAT deal for the environment.

fucking retards

TXL


Lets see how happy they are when they get to pay taxes on the $4500 next year because it's considered income...
Link Posted: 10/14/2009 1:09:03 PM EDT
[#32]
The sad part is that a lot of folks who can't afford a new car could get a lot of use out of some of these 'clunkers'.

Link Posted: 10/14/2009 1:09:59 PM EDT
[#33]



Quoted:


The sad part is that a lot of folks who can't afford a new car could get a lot of use out of some of these 'clunkers'.





Yup



 
Link Posted: 10/14/2009 1:15:05 PM EDT
[#34]
Quoted:
those are some decent jeeps

dumbshits could have sold them for more than $4500 easy


No kidding...will be looking at getting rid of my wrangler next year (there will be many tears over this...) and looking at getting a GC Limited with the V8. Those, used ('07) are fetching 22k plus.

*sigh*
Link Posted: 10/14/2009 1:17:46 PM EDT
[#35]



Quoted:


We are have the dumbest country leader in the world.


Fixed it



 
Link Posted: 10/14/2009 1:20:22 PM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
The sad part is that a lot of folks who can't afford a new car could get a lot of use out of some of these 'clunkers'.



Those people should use public transportation! <Edited by Barack Obama>
Link Posted: 10/14/2009 1:24:43 PM EDT
[#37]
Those Jeep GC's look like they are in better shape than my GC!!!!!!
Link Posted: 10/14/2009 1:36:16 PM EDT
[#38]
Quoted:
<Edited by Barack Obama> [/span][/span]


NOOOO!!!!!!!


You have any idea what you just started?
Link Posted: 10/14/2009 1:39:23 PM EDT
[#39]
Goddamn fucking liberal hypocrits!!! I wish they would just go to hell and die!!
Link Posted: 10/14/2009 1:50:33 PM EDT
[#40]
Quoted:
Those Jeep GC's look like they are in better shape than my GC!!!!!!


The latest year I saw in the bone yard was '03, I've heard of '05s, but not seen any.
Link Posted: 10/14/2009 3:26:58 PM EDT
[#41]
Quoted:
destruction of wealth on an epic level!!!!


+1.

Plus, turning all those paid for cars into new $25-40K loans that people now have to make payments on.

Personally speaking, a number of those cars pictured are better than my (paid for) car.

Oh well.

Fuck Barack Obama.

John
Link Posted: 10/14/2009 3:30:30 PM EDT
[#42]
this is epic fail.
Link Posted: 10/14/2009 3:30:39 PM EDT
[#43]
Quoted:
Look at all that created wealth.  When I get home I'm going to put $20 in my left pocket, take it out, put it in my right pocket and see how much money I have.



I tried that already and lost $20

Link Posted: 10/14/2009 3:36:53 PM EDT
[#44]
This is absolutely infuriating!!! I am seething over seeing this. The fucktards in Washington talked people out of their good, domestic vehicles and talked them into trading them for less than they're worth for a piece of shit "gas saving" foreign built plastic wrapped tin can. How many great trail rigs could be built out of those things.



It's time to vote out EVERYONE in Washington. Time to start the fuck over. The assholes in Washington are out of their fucking minds.
Link Posted: 10/14/2009 3:38:40 PM EDT
[#45]
Every one of those appeared in better condition then the cars some of my family drives
Link Posted: 10/14/2009 3:47:56 PM EDT
[#46]
Disgusting to see cars that could have fulfilled a starved market for quality inexpensive used cars, not to mention the secondary parts market that won't get those pristine parts. The goobermind could have not killed the engines and sold those vehicles to other countries around the world and we could have made a decent amount of $$$.

Just shows how our Gov't isn't qualified to handle used cars, much less our Healtcare.


FUCK OBAMA AND THE USELESS GOVERNMENT!
Link Posted: 10/14/2009 3:49:38 PM EDT
[#47]
This is what happens when government goes full retard.
Link Posted: 10/14/2009 3:49:58 PM EDT
[#48]
This makes me fucking sick.
Link Posted: 10/14/2009 3:50:09 PM EDT
[#49]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Most of those are newer and nicer than my daily driver.

ETA: is there a list of locations with those cars available?  I'm sure there are plenty of usable parts on them.

Just contact your local junk yard. These clunkers are everywhere.
This yard is in Podunk NH, and they had 800.
Ask around, and start bargaining, 'cause they all  gotta go in 180 days.

 


Wait! I thought the parts wouldn't be available to the secondary market? or is this "under the table" since there are no VIN#'s assosciated with parts?
Link Posted: 10/14/2009 3:51:07 PM EDT
[#50]



Quoted:



Quoted:

the really sad part of this is that the people who voted for him, think it was a good deal, economically speaking that is, and a GREAT deal for the environment.



fucking retards



TXL




Lets see how happy they are when they get to pay taxes on the $4500 next year because it's considered income...
IIRC,  it's the DEALER who has to pay the tax on the $4500, not the buyer.

Once again, put the screws to the "evil small business ".
 
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