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Posted: 12/26/2022 7:41:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That always irks me too. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You know what’s bothered me about it? The security guard tells McClane to type the name into the computer. Finds his wife. Security guard tells him they’re the only ones left in the building. Seriously? Couldn’t have just told him that the party was on the 30th floor?  That always irks me too. It's legitimate. Had to see if his story checked out before he just gave some stranger access to the building. |
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Posted: 12/26/2022 7:57:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: While we're doing this... McClane listens to entire conversations in German, gets good views of their weapons, but tells Al he thinks the terrorists might be European because of... their clothes and cigarettes? And that conference table... bulletproof enough to protect McClane for its entire length, but then he shoots up through it with no issue? Engineered wood is weird like that. Marco was firing through the laminate side. McClane wasn't. |
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Posted: 12/26/2022 8:24:41 AM EDT
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all good points..
one thing i dont get is the swat team wearing beanies. didnt they have helmets or something in the late 80’s? also when they are making their way to the building they are all flagging each other and one dude almost incapacitated by a rose bush. i dont think lapd swat has ever been that keystone. was the point of this movie to show nypd superiority over lapd? |
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Posted: 12/26/2022 8:38:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What bothered me is the amount of continuity error is in the time it takes after the explosion for the Agent Johnson's ignited helicopter to then fall from the building. Blows up and then many minutes later falls down??? At 2:40 the roof blows and takes out the chopper. Bruce Willis has time for that intense scene where he clings to the fire hose, and it nearly pulls him down and out a window. Minutes later at 3:49 in the video when Bruce is at the party floor with the fountains, the Chopper finally falls off the roof, blowing some windows inward with a blast he has to dodge. Sure took a long time for the chopper to fall a few feet.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGhuJkAFdX4I agree, but also, what the hell happened to the second chopper? Two are clearly seen flying low up the street to the rooftop scene:  Attached FileDid the second one just disappear, or did it land to deliver emergency donuts to the cops on the ground? 
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Posted: 12/26/2022 8:51:17 AM EDT
[#5]
How did Urkel not fuck it up for his neighbor?
Kharn |
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Posted: 12/26/2022 9:11:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Couldn't break the glass and walk through the openings? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I didn't understand the point of the "car." It drove up the steps and just sat there while Hans's crew put two rockets into it. It deployed no reinforcement troops, crashed down no doors/barriers or provided any support gunfire. Yes. If it hadn't been shot, what exactly was it going to do? Why not at least attempt entry through the garage? I believe the terrorists welded the doors shut and chain doors sealed down the main entry ways, they need to ram thru the doors Couldn't break the glass and walk through the openings? That's another question. Armed guys run up to the (wholly conspicuous and totally without cover OR concealment) front doors to the building, find that their key card doesn't work, and make the entirely tactical decision to break out the oxy-acetylene torch rather than just schiess dem pfenster? I mean, busting out the glass would require new glass be installed. Burning the entire door lock out of the frame would necessitate replacing both doors in their entirety, not to mention taking a million times longer, and exposing the guys to unfriendly fire for a million more minutes than was absolutely needed. I should have been the tactical leader on the ground. The entire situation would have been resolved differently. |
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Posted: 12/26/2022 9:18:23 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/26/2022 9:21:54 AM EDT
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Quote Historyi turned 70 in october and still am troubled that i worked my college deferment and got passed over for the draft. found out later my dad, WWII vet was considering getting me to canada to keep me out. it bothers me wondering about the guy who went in my place. and now, knowing what stupidity put us there and what a waste it all was just makes me angry |
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Posted: 12/26/2022 9:47:30 AM EDT
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A little synchronicity:
In the 1986 film, The Money Pit, Alexander Godunov plays a composer and when we first see him on screen, he is composing Beethoven's "Ode to Joy".  Attached FileThe same song plays when the Nakatomi vault finally opens. |
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Posted: 12/26/2022 9:57:06 AM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: While we're doing this... McClane listens to entire conversations in German, gets good views of their weapons, but tells Al he thinks the terrorists might be European because of... their clothes and cigarettes? And that conference table... bulletproof enough to protect McClane for its entire length, but then he shoots up through it with no issue? Marco was shooting through the table, missing McClane but driving him to the end. |
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Posted: 12/26/2022 10:29:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That doesn’t bother me at all. Clearly two different trucks…it’s entirely believable that they parked the ambulance truck earlier (perhaps just hour earlier) on some other pretense, then backed into the loading dock at “go time” in the other truck. Quote HistoryQuoted: That doesn’t bother me at all. Clearly two different trucks…it’s entirely believable that they parked the ambulance truck earlier (perhaps just hour earlier) on some other pretense, then backed into the loading dock at “go time” in the other truck. Mayhew? |
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Posted: 12/26/2022 11:31:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A little synchronicity: In the 1986 film, The Money Pit, Alexander Godunov plays a composer and when we first see him on screen, he is composing Beethoven's "Ode to Joy". https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/4019/319C83D3-0437-413A-96AB-531C5130E01B_jpe-2649329.JPG The same song plays when the Nakatomi vault finally opens. I think the word you're looking for here is... conductor. |
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Posted: 12/26/2022 11:38:55 AM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You know what’s bothered me about it? The security guard tells McClane to type the name into the computer. Finds his wife. Security guard tells him they’re the only ones left in the building. Seriously? Couldn’t have just told him that the party was on the 30th floor? He needed to look for her as holly mclane to establish that she’s gone back to her maiden name in LA |
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Posted: 12/26/2022 4:48:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: all good points.. one thing i dont get is the swat team wearing beanies. didnt they have helmets or something in the late 80’s? also when they are making their way to the building they are all flagging each other and one dude almost incapacitated by a rose bush. i dont think lapd swat has ever been that keystone. was the point of this movie to show nypd superiority over lapd? That guy with the rose bush  "OUCH" 
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Posted: 12/26/2022 9:41:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think the word you're looking for here is... conductor. Oh please. What's this got to do with trains? |
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Posted: 12/26/2022 9:55:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh please. What's this got to do with trains? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I think the word you're looking for here is... conductor. Oh please. What's this got to do with trains?  
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Posted: 12/27/2022 10:05:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That guy with the rose bush "OUCH" Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: all good points.. one thing i dont get is the swat team wearing beanies. didnt they have helmets or something in the late 80's? also when they are making their way to the building they are all flagging each other and one dude almost incapacitated by a rose bush. i dont think lapd swat has ever been that keystone. was the point of this movie to show nypd superiority over lapd? That guy with the rose bush "OUCH" I've always wondered if that was done on purpose for the movie for him to say ouch or if that was just something which occurred in real life that his hand hit the thorn and he said ouch while they were filming. |
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Posted: 12/27/2022 10:20:50 AM EDT
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What bothers me is their total lack of aiming. Would have been a much faster takeover and shut down of McLane if they used their sights while shooting at him.
Also, what’s with Karl’s dramatic presentation of his pistol. From the sky to eye level every time. Other than that I think everything else in the movie is dead on accurate. |
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Posted: 12/27/2022 10:21:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've always wondered if that was done on purpose for the movie for him to say ouch or if that was just something which occurred in real life that his hand hit the thorn and he said ouch while they were filming. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: all good points.. one thing i dont get is the swat team wearing beanies. didnt they have helmets or something in the late 80's? also when they are making their way to the building they are all flagging each other and one dude almost incapacitated by a rose bush. i dont think lapd swat has ever been that keystone. was the point of this movie to show nypd superiority over lapd? That guy with the rose bush "OUCH" I've always wondered if that was done on purpose for the movie for him to say ouch or if that was just something which occurred in real life that his hand hit the thorn and he said ouch while they were filming. Same here, I want to think is is the latter and it just worked and was kept. But... why even have him miked? |
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Posted: 12/27/2022 10:45:21 AM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What bothers me is their total lack of aiming. Would have been a much faster takeover and shut down of McLane if they used their sights while shooting at him. Also, what’s with Karl’s dramatic presentation of his pistol. From the sky to eye level every time. Other than that I think everything else in the movie is dead on accurate. Nobody aimed in the 80s. Look at any action movie from that time. Aiming was for pussies. |
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Posted: 12/27/2022 4:04:54 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Same here, I want to think is is the latter and it just worked and was kept. But... why even have him miked? Wouldn’t have to be; if it was spontaneous and they decided to keep it, they could’ve dubbed his voice in afterwards to match his reaction. But who knows either way |
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Posted: 12/27/2022 4:09:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It is a Christmas movie. The whole thing is about family and self sacrifice. What's not more Christmas than that. Also the first scene with Argile is about Christmas, and so is the last scene. The whole film is full of Christmas themes and events. Final argument. Is Home Alone a Christmas movie or a movie during Christmas? Case closed.  Home Alone is Die Hard for kids. |
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Posted: 12/27/2022 4:18:14 PM EDT
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Quoted: I'm still trying to understand the Christmas movie/movie during Christmas debate. So you're saying you're part of the problem? |
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Posted: 12/27/2022 4:19:04 PM EDT
[#24]
We're gonna need some more FBI guys
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Posted: 12/27/2022 4:27:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The radios in all the die hard movies have me going nuts. yea, ignore that there all kenwood ham radios I have huge issues with the so called CB communicators with ultra stubby antennas. John is on the roof calling police on CH 9, While hans was also on Ch 9 and heard it, so that means they're all on ch 9 lol wut? Al also has a CB in his police car and yells over the radio and Hans is talking to his crew on the same channel after talking to john, but there was a moment when he pressed some buttons appearing to change channels to Theo but earlier on theo is listening to john and the police in Die Hard 2 hes using an 800mhz cell phone to listen to VHF AM air band. Its got a six digit readout! That could be a million combinations. lol yea, the frequencies on the ham radio. They supposedly took out their radios, they can receive but cannot transmit LOL. In Die Hard 3 it was a little better, with no so many cell phones talking to radios User name checks out, I think...? I wish I had the Simpsons geeks xylophone meme handy! |
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Posted: 12/27/2022 4:45:03 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So what was the point of having theo drill thru the locks? Why didn't they just blow up the power lines to the vault or wait out till then FBI shut it down? Wasn't Hans knowing that the fbi would shut down the power? I know I know, its a movie were tearing apart Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: The vault scene interesting too. If it loses power it opens up on the last lock? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/440308/magnets-magnets-make-a-meme-1-nu9zrb7lv4-2649257.JPG Specifically, electromagnets. Without power, they don't work. So what was the point of having theo drill thru the locks? Why didn't they just blow up the power lines to the vault or wait out till then FBI shut it down? Wasn't Hans knowing that the fbi would shut down the power? I know I know, its a movie were tearing apart Jane you ignorant slut! First locks were mechanical. Final lock was electromagnetic |
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Posted: 12/27/2022 4:47:44 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: all good points.. one thing i dont get is the swat team wearing beanies. didnt they have helmets or something in the late 80’s? also when they are making their way to the building they are all flagging each other and one dude almost incapacitated by a rose bush. i dont think lapd swat has ever been that keystone. was the point of this movie to show nypd superiority over lapd? The Rose bush gag made me giggle. Watched it just last night with my 15YO son who’s never seen it before but always wanted to as he’s seen references on Rick & Morty! |
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Posted: 12/27/2022 4:49:23 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: A little synchronicity: In the 1986 film, The Money Pit, Alexander Godunov plays a composer and when we first see him on screen, he is composing Beethoven's "Ode to Joy". https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/4019/319C83D3-0437-413A-96AB-531C5130E01B_jpe-2649329.JPG The same song plays when the Nakatomi vault finally opens. You and I can be friends |
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Posted: 12/27/2022 4:50:19 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Marco was shooting through the table, missing McClane but driving him to the end. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: While we're doing this... McClane listens to entire conversations in German, gets good views of their weapons, but tells Al he thinks the terrorists might be European because of... their clothes and cigarettes? And that conference table... bulletproof enough to protect McClane for its entire length, but then he shoots up through it with no issue? Marco was shooting through the table, missing McClane but driving him to the end. This was a classic 80s scene of hundreds of shots missing the good guy. |
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Posted: 12/27/2022 4:52:10 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You know what's bothered me about it? The security guard tells McClane to type the name into the computer. Finds his wife. Security guard tells him they're the only ones left in the building. Seriously? Couldn't have just told him that the party was on the 30th floor? |
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Posted: 12/27/2022 4:58:14 PM EDT
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Watched it (again for the ~87th time since the 80s) with my 15YO who’s always wanted to see it based on pop culture references like from Rick & Morty. Love watching 80s classics with my kids because they always bring me a new perspective.
What stood out on this viewing with Toad Jr was Hans Grubers “acting” as a lost hostage to fool McLane. Alan Rickman played this so well on-screen that my son blinked and questioned “isn’t that the bad guy?”. Toad Jr wasn’t 100% sure. I had to pause and also explain that Rickman played Snape in Harry Potter. Alan Rickman absolutely knocks it out of the park in this film. RIP. |
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Posted: 12/27/2022 5:03:13 PM EDT
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All I know is I don't care what Bruce Willis says.
IT IS A CHRISTMAS MOVIE. |
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Posted: 12/27/2022 5:07:51 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: A little synchronicity: In the 1986 film, The Money Pit, Alexander Godunov plays a composer and when we first see him on screen, he is composing Beethoven's "Ode to Joy". https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/4019/319C83D3-0437-413A-96AB-531C5130E01B_jpe-2649329.JPG The same song plays when the Nakatomi vault finally opens. He was Amish in Witness |
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Posted: 12/27/2022 5:08:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: All I know is I don't care what Bruce Willis says. IT IS A CHRISTMAS MOVIE.  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/27/2022 5:14:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The vault scene interesting too. If it loses power it opens up on the last lock? Bruh….electromagnetic seal. Without no electro there is no seal. |
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Posted: 12/27/2022 5:17:55 PM EDT
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Hmm in terms of the music.....
"Let it snow" really isn't a Christmas song - it's a "winter" song. Same thing with "Jingle Bells" and "Winter Wonderland". And Beethoven's 9th also isn't a Christmas song. Honestly, "Christmas in Hollis" is the only actual Christmas song in the whole movie!!!!! |
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Posted: 12/28/2022 12:46:44 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Home Alone is Die Hard for kids. It's a tribute by Hughes to a movie he loves.  Home Alone is a Remake of Die Hard — All the Facts Explained |
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Posted: 12/28/2022 7:25:30 AM EDT
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