You Russia lovers have no idea what "divide and conquer" means. lol

Stopped clock and whatnot

I guess you never heard of the Paris Commune. I get it, European history is no longer taught in US schools.

Muhammed replaced Marx sometime ago.

“Nations have no permanent friends or allies, they only have permanent interests.”
----Lord Palmerston

Yep, my family left tha shithole for a reason...

I certainly wouldn't go so far to say that "I have more in common with the average rural Russian than the average urban American".

However, I will say that conservatives have many parallels with Russians.  Some examples:

Believe in low taxes
Believe in the right to self defense
Opposed to generous welfare (believe it's ok that people have to work to eat)
More pro-gun than Western Europeans
Opposed to most progressive social policies (gay rights, feminism, etc.)
Opposed to unlimited immigration (though Russia does have immigrant problems)
More skeptical about global warming (this is certainly not absolute, though)
Believe that government is corrupt and can't be trusted
Believe in having a strong military (theirs is not that strong but it is a much bigger priority than for Western Europe)
Not as concerned with environmentalism

That's what I can think of off the top of my head but I'm sure there's many more.

There are more Commies in Berkley these days then Moscow.

They are nothing but the Boogieman that this country still needs for some odd reason.

We are pulling down statues of the men who made this country, they are putting them up.

Lol no. Read some Nietzsche if you want to understand the rise of nihilistic totalitarianism in the 20th century, he called it decades before it started to happen.

Same shit happened all over the world, hell it's happening here now.

I wonder what you guys make of Putin's affiliation with the orthodox church.

Fookin' Russians!! How dare they not self-destroy like us?

Wtf, Russia is NOT first world except in areas of a small number of cities, nothing like US.   Average rural Russian life is fucking hard as shit

FVP!

The "Russia lovers" are openly marching in our cities demanding $15 an hour and flying the hammer and sickle.
Im sitting on my porch under an American flag watching rabbits forage for mesquite beans. I know who my countrymen are. I know what divide and conquer means. I know segments of this land have grown soft and disillusioned and we are ripe for communism to take hold. Ill resist it with every fiber of my being, but Russia doesn't concern me, and I doubt I concern Ivan.

Who won out, professor?

Most of the urban US is basically Mexico at this point. So no question that it is nothing like the US.

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And especially Putin. Fuck all communists and their sympathizers.

No one ever said they were not there. But it’s OK with you guys!

And this is also true. Russia is not the greatest threat to our liberties right now.

Oh man! I'm really showcasing all the Russia lovers, America haters! It's like I don't even need serious detective work.

Granted, Nicholas II was a little weak bitch. Gave up almost immediately and with little fight. Should have followed the French example and massacred the shit out of them.

But fortunately, communism never came to the culturally enriched and vibrant lands of Mexico and Guatemala. Thank God for that.

But they are......those who think like them.....are them.

No.

Cite even one Nietzsche qoute promoting government's dominance over the individual.

One. It don't exist.

actually vladimir putin is a deeply nationalistic authoritarian "president" who acts in a way that he believes is consistent with upholding and expanding russia's influence in the world. he has no desire to recreate the soviet union but rather a russian empire of sorts. in fact most of the oligarchical guard of the soviet union are long gone, replaced by putin's friends and collaborators. he isn't a communist. to label him as one is to have a fundamental lack of understanding of his political convictions or goals.

i don't like putin, i don't admire him. but i most certainly do not "hate" him because he's doing the same thing for his people that many of our leaders believe we ought to be doing for our own. if you are a russian president, you aren't going to be doing anything for the russian people by being subservient to the western world's demands. you and i might not like what putin does but you and i most certainly would do what putin is doing if we were russians and considered ourselves russian patriots in the way we consider ourselves american patriots now. that is the perspective that i look at the russian situation from.

we have a belief in america, a pervasive, expensive, snobbish, false and unbelievably arrogant belief, that we are the gatekeepers of the free world and as such we must act like the world's police. we aren't, and we shouldn't. once you frame the argument that way and abandon the idea of "spreading democracy" you might begin to understand why russia acts the way it does and why they don't particularly like us anymore than we like them.

i don't think we should help russia, or become their friends, but i also think that the mainstream media and the democratic party's view of russia is dangerous, hysterical, and bordering on mental illness. the fact that you have people like congressman adam schiff suggesting that russians propagate our 2nd amendment to get us to kill each other or that russians hacked vote totals when that is disputed by a super majority of state secretaries, speaks volumes about their ability to reason and their current state of mind. if russia keeps you up at night and you don't work in intelligence, than you need to see a specialist and i would recommend you seek medical help.

The commies who are here are a more immediate threat than the commies over there. We should not lose sight of the danger they pose, obviously, but we are facing some serious short term issues right now.

I agree but who would support these people.....in todays terms?

I was fine, and agree, with all of this - until you didn't mention China, and didn't give statistics on just how much each one of out 'patriot' ARFcom members gives them each year to buy cheap goods.

Ideological restraints kept Russian information operations pretty much restricted to the Left for decades. The removal of these means they have unrestrained opportunities to successfully target both these days. Fostering and propping up their old allies on the Left, while simultaneously appealing to the Right by using those very Leftist groups as strawmen examples of what Western freedoms, unchecked, let happen.

In this very thread, we see how hilariously well these messages resonate with the useful idiots crowd.

FWIW my quarrel is with Putin and his merry band of shitbirds. I have no quarrel with average Russians unless they have one with me...which I'm not aware of either way.

Quoted for posterity. Does OP really think that the average Russian citizen wants him dead? Everyone just wants to get through the day.

They do have a quarrel with you. Since over 90% support that PIECE OF SHIT.

Thank you for admitting you're wrong.

You have more class than a Russian.  I apologize for that not being much of a compliment.  A lateral at best. Loss of yardage likely.

Nietzsche didn't promote the supremacy of the state over the individual, as far as I know, but he did accurately predict it.

That merry band of shitbirds is supported by the people, revolution is no stranger to the russian people. Time to wake up.

That must be why dirty commies keep trying to escape to the West.

uh... yeah... because they are patriots (russian patriots) and putin is their president.

you... you do realize that large, nationalistic groups of people tend to support their own leaders, right?

that's like saying we have an inherent quarrel with russia because we support trump instead of putin. it's mind-boggling that you would type that, really...

If it wasn't for politicians I truly believe that Russians and Americans would make a hell of a team. Russians and Americans are very similar people in some ways. I'm a proud American and a proud Russian. I love America and it's constitution. I despise communism and SJWs. My first vote as a citizen was for Trump.

I'm sorry that you think I should die a horrible painful death.

So Im a communist useful idiot for seeing the modern American left as communist useful idiots?
Go fuck yourself.

in the (admittedly limited) experience i've had with russians, i've never met one who just hated me because i'm american.

we have more in common, as a people, than we think.

i guess irreconcilable differences with our governments will permanently keep us apart.

Is that a legit 90% or is that the typical dictator got 90% of the "vote" support.

Based on everything I've heard you say thus far on this forum you are an amateur or professional agent of russia. I'm going to make sure everyone knows it to too whenever the opportunity arises. You're buddy bland85 is similar except less talented and/or an idiot.

QFT.  Our greatest enemies are within.  Look at what Hitlery did in starting the "muh russia" sh*t on Donald Magnus.  She and Soros funded Antifa(ct).

Besides, that corrupt nation Russia is only a threat via the vulnerable petro-dollar.

Its funny how the Russians finally figured out that their propaganda works just as well on that derpy segment of the American "right" as it did on the left.

Add in the GD tweenager retard accounts that believe everything they see on YouTube and you get the ball gargler posts.

Where the hell did you get that 90% support statistic, the trustworthy Russian media?

i don't think russia isn't a global rival but whenever you see someone call putin a communist it's usually a clue to ignore everything else they have to say because they don't know what the fuck they're talking about.

he's a nationalist, an opportunist, a careerist, all of this to be sure, but not a communist.

Is this the nation state version of the Stockholm Syndrome?