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Posted: 8/27/2020 2:51:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Excellent post. The kid is probably gonna get loved tenderly by the govt, but has the govt been doing their job, it would have never escalated to this. ^this. After hearing from the Law & Order types for so long that "It's the LAW" and MUST be observed to a fault, they are ultimately responsible and as guilty as the Democrat Mayors and Governors for these deaths and the loss of people's livelyhood that have paid taxes for their salaries. |
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Posted: 8/27/2020 2:51:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As far as I am aware, there is no evidence of BLM hiring or paying them. |
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Posted: 8/27/2020 2:52:16 PM EDT
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Excellent writeup.
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Posted: 8/27/2020 2:52:40 PM EDT
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Good job OP
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Posted: 8/27/2020 2:52:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Excellent post. The kid is probably gonna get loved tenderly by the govt, but has the govt been doing their job, it would have never escalated to this. As evidenced in LE ignoring any lawlessness by the "protected class" but johnny-on-the-spot with MRAPS and patrol vehicles standing by to swoop in when a good guy acts in self defense. All part of the plan by TPTB. |
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Posted: 8/27/2020 2:53:36 PM EDT
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Bravo.
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Posted: 8/27/2020 2:54:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As evidenced in LE ignoring any lawlessness by the "protected class" but johnny-on-the-spot with MRAPS and patrol vehicles standing by to swoop in when a good guy acts in self defense. All part of the plan by TPTB. |
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Posted: 8/27/2020 2:54:39 PM EDT
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Holy cow brother, this is solid, great job! GREAT JOB! I say STICKY THIS! (Of course I have no say but I can try anyway).
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Posted: 8/27/2020 2:54:56 PM EDT
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Really nice job!
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Posted: 8/27/2020 2:55:09 PM EDT
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What kind of fucking god awful nation do we live in?
Say you're at home, like the McClusky's. Rioters, looters moving down the street, setting fire to vehicles, homes, home invasions, etc. Finally, they reach your door. You shoot a couple of them, and they retreat. Suddenly, you're under arrest for 1st degree murder, the looters return, and finish the job, leaving nothing behind but a smoldering heap of wood, brick, porcelain tile, and granite slabs. What the fucking fuck? This god damn should be the shot heart around the world. No one should have let him been taken into custody, period. "Thin blue line" my ass. I'm getting tired of all of the police support when they do nothing but squelch OUR rights while the rioters and looters run rampant. Oh, maybe the police do protect THEIR precinct building or THEIR courthouse. Big fucking deal. |
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Posted: 8/27/2020 2:55:28 PM EDT
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I imagine there was a good reason why the police had to sign an affidavit and arrest immediately, rather than conduct a thorough investigation and present to a grand jury... let them decide
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Posted: 8/27/2020 2:56:16 PM EDT
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Great post, I read about half of it, will read the rest when I get home from work.
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Posted: 8/27/2020 2:56:42 PM EDT
[#13]
Excellent write up. Thank you.
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Posted: 8/27/2020 2:57:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @Austrian Log out and log back in. Ah, above and beyond the call. Thanks. |
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Posted: 8/27/2020 3:01:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ah, above and beyond the call. Thanks. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: @Austrian Log out and log back in. Ah, above and beyond the call. Thanks.  Love the avatar! |
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Posted: 8/27/2020 3:01:34 PM EDT
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Thanks for post.
Specific laws weird me out but this is so clear: “A person who engages in unlawful conduct of a type likely to provoke others to attack him or her and thereby does provoke an attack is not entitled to claim the privilege of self-defence against such attack, except when the attack which ensues is of a type causing the person engaging in the unlawful conduct to reasonably believe that he or she is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm. In such a case, the person engaging in the unlawful conduct is privileged to act in self-defence, but the person is not privileged to resort to the use of force intended or likely to cause death to the person's assailant unless the person reasonably believes he or she has exhausted every other reasonable means to escape from or otherwise avoid death or great bodily harm at the hands of his or her assailant." The behavior of this 17 year old have absolutely stunned me at every turn. His actions under duress appear to be both moral and legal, and his accuracy, weapons retention, etc all illustrate a nearly perfect action at each juncture. I do not think I have ever seen such competence in any self defense shooting caught on video to date. |
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Posted: 8/27/2020 3:04:13 PM EDT
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Excellent job.
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Posted: 8/27/2020 3:04:56 PM EDT
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@Austrian
Great post! See the twitter link below of the 1st shooting. Scroll down to the post that starts with At 23:19. It appears that someone fired a handgun in the air just prior to the first shooting. Kyle may have thought he was getting shot at and spun around to shoot back at the attacker. https://mobile.twitter.com/trbrtc/status/1298840777251008512?fbclid=IwAR1tSMaalTXl7cKMGMxlrOFrPQYKTmcqahvxAzAd8Y3jyVKNrmDoFCE28uQ |
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Posted: 8/27/2020 3:05:30 PM EDT
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After throwing everything the state has at him.... the kid will walk. In this case the process will be the punishment.
Good shooting, Tex. I want him on my side. Evidently he can keep his cool under pressure and making his shots count instead of completely panicking and blasting away like “well trained” police do. I know, “muh magazine capacity. It appears that many people blast away two or three or maybe 5-8 or maybe 10-12 hoping they’ll get lucky instead of “taking time to aim” because if they miss they have 10-15 more for backup, then they can take time to aim. |
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Posted: 8/27/2020 3:05:32 PM EDT
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Great write up. The only thing I will disagree with is that Lefty already had his gun out when he feigned surrender. He drew after realizing that Rittenhouse was clearing a malfunction. Muzzle is pointed to the ground in the picture just before he took a round in the bicep and another picture not included in this analysis show the moment of impact where the muzzle of the pistol is pointed just the left of Rittenhouse's head.
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Posted: 8/27/2020 3:05:52 PM EDT
[#21]
Good read & good AAR.
Thanks for posting this. |
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Posted: 8/27/2020 3:06:42 PM EDT
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Good work. I don't much about juries up in Wisconsin. But, that kid would be getting a Grand Jury no bill, a medal, and a free meal at Applebee's down here for that shooting.
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Posted: 8/27/2020 3:07:28 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/27/2020 3:09:35 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/27/2020 3:11:25 PM EDT
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Outstanding AAR Austrian!
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Posted: 8/27/2020 3:12:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Jesus. Tagged for after my nap. 
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Posted: 8/27/2020 3:15:32 PM EDT
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Some leftist clown I used to consider a friend was talking about this like the guy opened up on a group of peaceful demonstrators.
I hope this kid walks free. |
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Posted: 8/27/2020 3:16:04 PM EDT
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Hmm good summary, but I'm gonna have to wait till Paul Harrell makes a video to know for sure.
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Posted: 8/27/2020 3:16:27 PM EDT
[#29]
Thanks for taking the time to make this post.
I hope things work out for the young man. |
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Posted: 8/27/2020 3:18:25 PM EDT
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Lefties seem to forget that the Police exist to protect the criminal as much as to protect the law abiding.
They want no police? Do they really expect citizens to simply stand by and let a lifetime of work go up in flames? |
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Posted: 8/27/2020 3:21:04 PM EDT
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tldr
  Good to see you posting |
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Posted: 8/27/2020 3:21:16 PM EDT
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This should be a tacked thread. Unfortunately, nobody reads tacked threads.
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Posted: 8/27/2020 3:21:42 PM EDT
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It appears we have forgotten the TTP’s of antifa in their past confrontations, that they will attempt to separate out people from other groups to attack. Antifa trains to do thatI believe that is what happened to Rittenhouse.
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Posted: 8/27/2020 3:21:44 PM EDT
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You missed that in the initial shooting, before Rittenhouse fires, one of his pursuers fires a handgun in the air, in Rittenhouse's direction. He did not fire the first shot.
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Posted: 8/27/2020 3:22:54 PM EDT
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Nice analysis
Couple of notes (maybe already mention) In engagement one, as the New York Times analysis shows, someone closer to the street fired a handgun first, into the air as Short Bald guys is closing in. I think that also had an influence on the immanent danger Kyle perceived. I also read where Kyle left the car source lot and allies (maybe to help someone) and was prohibited from returning by police, this setting him up for being alone. |
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Posted: 8/27/2020 3:24:35 PM EDT
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Stellar analysis, bro! I appreciate the legal analysis part of it more than anything.
I was listening to something this morning and they were reporting that Grosskreutz's wound severed enough of the ligaments in his arm that he couldn't release his grip on his pistol. I found that to be rather....humerous.  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/27/2020 3:24:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lefties seem to forget that the Police exist to protect the criminal as much as to protect the law abiding. They want no police? Do they really expect citizens to simply stand by and let a lifetime of work go up in flames? Yes and yes. |
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Posted: 8/27/2020 3:27:09 PM EDT
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That is some damn fine reasoning sir, and I hope the judge/jury read it the same way. I didn't think the criminal possession could be overridden to make a case for lawful self defense, but written the way you state it, it seems it might given a favorable venue for the trial/grand jury. However, i am no legal scholar by a large margin. Thank you for the clear and concise analysis, sir.
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Posted: 8/27/2020 3:27:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You missed that in the initial shooting, before Rittenhouse fires, one of his pursuers fires a handgun in the air, in Rittenhouse's direction. He did not fire the first shot.
Wouldn’t it be interesting to learn that the “Paramedic” fired his weapon into the air? |
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Posted: 8/27/2020 3:31:01 PM EDT
[#40]
Great work!
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Posted: 8/27/2020 3:31:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nice analysis. Anyone who's viewed all the footage unbiased can see that he was definitely acting in self-defense. The problem is that I'm also pretty sure they'll use the unlawful possession/carry and the travel across state lines (even though the actual distance is fairly short) to bind this kid up. Based on the DA's record, it seems a high probability that he'll try to twist those into some indicator of 'intent'. Those laws make a interesting 2nd amendment case... Why do minors not have 2nd amendment rights? The certainly have all the others... |
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Posted: 8/27/2020 3:31:58 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is a long post but I suspect worth the read. So, tag for later. Same |
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Posted: 8/27/2020 3:32:52 PM EDT
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Phenomenal write up OP. Really strong work.
A word to the regards who pre judged: learn from the last 30+ events that have taken place where the "right" side individual has been defamed and lambasted in the media only to have the videos come out later to show they were right. You know who you are. |
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Posted: 8/27/2020 3:33:49 PM EDT
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Reading this makes me feel like I won the lottery... wait what? Seriously good read OP!! |
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Posted: 8/27/2020 3:34:05 PM EDT
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Was Stumpy's sidearm confiscated by responding officers? If so, should be an easy check if it was fired, and down by one...
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Posted: 8/27/2020 3:35:47 PM EDT
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Unless I missed it what style of sling was he using that allowed him to keep weapon retention? From what you said this made a big difference
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Posted: 8/27/2020 3:36:03 PM EDT
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I'm glad to see someone took the time to put it all together.
Thanks, OP. |
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Posted: 8/27/2020 3:36:59 PM EDT
[#48]
Scanned through, reading in a few.
3 good shoots. I would've been dropping everything that moved at the initial location because my fat ass doesn't run. The kid did stellar. You couldn't ask for more. I hope the aftermath pans out the way it should. |
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Posted: 8/27/2020 3:38:34 PM EDT
[#49]
@Austrian, Outstanding work!!
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Posted: 8/27/2020 3:40:16 PM EDT
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Thanks for a great post, will be going back and reading again.
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