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Posted: 5/22/2014 10:28:39 AM EDT
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My BIL has one and is very happy with it. I shot it a couple of times and it seems nice for the money. YMMV My friends broke on the second shot. When he got it back from being repaired, it lasted a whopping 4 bullets. |
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Posted: 5/22/2014 10:30:32 AM EDT
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My dad bought one and the trigger pull was awful long and hard.
It also had a funny feeling recoil. He traded it. |
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Posted: 5/22/2014 10:44:59 AM EDT
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Do you know the weight of the gun with an empty magazine?? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Do you know the weight of the gun with an empty magazine?? 15 ounces. Also,that gun range gave me a deja vu.
I *think* I may have been there?? Can you give where it is located? Golden Triangle Gun Club, Beaumont, Texas. |
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Posted: 5/22/2014 10:46:51 AM EDT
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My dad bought one and the trigger pull was awful long and hard. It also had a funny feeling recoil. He traded it. It is indeed long, but not nearly as hard as the KelTec. Their information says 9 pound trigger pull. But it is smooth. |
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Posted: 5/22/2014 10:59:37 AM EDT
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Maybe the CPX2 has resolved some issues.
The CPX1 was my first pistol and I still have it because I like people enough to not sell it to them. Keep in mind they have a lifetime warranty and will send you parts if something breaks or you can send it to them for a fix. With that being said here is what happened with my CPX1 First time shooting the external safety kept engaging. I get on the forum and they say to file it down. Worked good and then broke. Skyy has a block off piece now but I just took it out as its not really needed with the heavy trigger. The mag release kept getting bumped as I shot it releasing the mag halfway and having a FTF. File down some. fixed. Front sight popped off. I bought some for a P11 and they work great. I used epoxy to glue them in. The front sight is plastic with two pegs that slide down into the slide. No more issues. One of my mags split at the seam from being loaded over time. I tig welded it back and they sent me a new mag anyway. No problems since with either other than a little rust. The recoil spring and guide rod were one piece on mine. The guide rod cap had a tiny threaded rod that went into the rod. It backed out while shooting one day and bent. I straightened it and put it back in but it eventually broke. They sent me one out. No problems since but I don't even bother shooting it anymore. 
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Posted: 5/22/2014 11:02:09 AM EDT
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Are these made in Turkey, O_P? What I know about the brand could be written on a matchbook cover with a grease pencil in capital letters  Made in FL. I think it is a guy that used to work for KelTec irc.
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Posted: 5/22/2014 11:03:48 AM EDT
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Eh- I think that I'll keep my P-11.
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Posted: 5/22/2014 11:05:22 AM EDT
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I'd be interested in reliability with Gold Dot and HST as the gun is likely to appeal more as a defensive piece than a range toy. [/img] Despite my other problems my 1st gen ran gold dots with zero malfunctions. Looks to be the same barrel and mags. |
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Posted: 5/22/2014 11:20:32 AM EDT
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UPLULA is a great loader.
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Posted: 5/22/2014 11:21:38 AM EDT
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Good review O_P.
If nothing else, I think you sold me on that slick little magazine loader.  But the pistol sure is temping (once it's on the MD handgun roster  )
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Posted: 5/22/2014 11:36:09 AM EDT
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UPLULA is a great loader. It impressed me.
I usually don't have any problems loading mags, but these were very stiff. The UpLULA was a little slow to work, but it made it easy as could be. |
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Posted: 5/22/2014 11:39:23 AM EDT
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Saved for later, pic server is banned here
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Posted: 5/22/2014 11:45:28 AM EDT
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Saved for later, pic server is banned here It's up on my site. 
http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/edu171.htm |
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Posted: 5/22/2014 11:49:12 AM EDT
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It is indeed long, but not nearly as hard as the KelTec. Their information says 9 pound trigger pull. But it is smooth. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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My dad bought one and the trigger pull was awful long and hard. It also had a funny feeling recoil. He traded it. It is indeed long, but not nearly as hard as the KelTec. Their information says 9 pound trigger pull. But it is smooth. After reading this I decided to drop by the local fun store over the lunch hour. Just so happened that they had one. Trigger on this one felt like it lightened up a bit as you pulled it. It was long & heavy but there wasn't any grit to it. I also played with an LC9 while I was there. It had a great trigger compared to the SCCY IMO. |
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Posted: 5/22/2014 11:56:03 AM EDT
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I also played with an LC9 while I was there. It had a great trigger compared to the SCCY IMO. I've got an LC9 myself, and other than the looong pull the trigger is great, feels light, it's consistent through the pull, and is smooth. |
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Posted: 5/22/2014 12:06:59 PM EDT
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I've got an LC9 myself, and other than the looong pull the trigger is great, feels light, it's consistent through the pull, and is smooth. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I also played with an LC9 while I was there. It had a great trigger compared to the SCCY IMO. I've got an LC9 myself, and other than the looong pull the trigger is great, feels light, it's consistent through the pull, and is smooth. I've kind of been kicking around getting something smaller for summer carry. The LC9 may just be the ticket. |
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Posted: 5/22/2014 12:09:29 PM EDT
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I picked up a Skyy(gen 1) at a gun show for 125 a few years back because it was the only gun that would fit my wife's baby hands in a double stack. I called the company asking about purchasing more magazines and they asked me for my serial number. I gave it and they told me to send it in for replacement. I did so for free and got a spanking new SS Gen2 in the mail a week later.
We went out and shot a good 200 rounds of wwb(100 rounds) and some reloaded JHP(100 rounds) that I had through it. Ran flawlessly but it was too snappy for my wife's weak wrists and small hands. She ended up with a G26 but from personal experience I wouldn't kick the Cpx2 out of bed for eating crackers. The controls are real close together and I suggest NOT getting the external safety model. At the end of the day, it put rounds down range accurately and the rest is personal taste. ETA: If your gun is marked Skyy, call the company and they will trade it out for a new gun and you don't have to worry about offloading a sub par piece. Hell, you might even like the new one. The replacement is the result of a lawsuit from the vodka company from what I hear. |
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Posted: 5/22/2014 12:11:47 PM EDT
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Thanks for the info. I think AIM has/had them and considered buying one... Maybe I will next time.
Cheers |
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Posted: 5/22/2014 12:14:31 PM EDT
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BOOM!
Looks like I will be buying one for $259 at AIM Linky: http://www.aimsurplus.com/catalog.aspx?groupid=3&name=Pistols |
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Posted: 5/22/2014 12:18:30 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/22/2014 12:32:11 PM EDT
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BOOM! Looks like I will be buying one for $259 at AIM Linky: http://www.aimsurplus.com/catalog.aspx?groupid=3&name=Pistols That looks like a good price. |
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Posted: 5/22/2014 1:39:13 PM EDT
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Good review O_P. If nothing else, I think you sold me on that slick little magazine loader. But the pistol sure is temping (once it's on the MD handgun roster )It's not bad for the money.
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Posted: 5/22/2014 4:57:55 PM EDT
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Hickock 45 had over 500+ rounds through one. (an early gun) He wasn't impressed.
I had an early P11 that I wanted to like so badly. I just couldn't get on target with it. Are they new models any better? |
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Posted: 5/22/2014 5:45:17 PM EDT
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Hickock 45 had over 500+ rounds through one. (an early gun) He wasn't impressed.  http://youtu.be/vTgFs-m59RY
I had an early P11 that I wanted to like so badly. I just couldn't get on target with it. Are they new models any better? Old Hickock sure looks like he has fun. He and I need to get together sometime.
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Posted: 5/22/2014 5:55:12 PM EDT
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Old Hickock sure looks like he has fun. He and I need to get together sometime.
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Hickock 45 had over 500+ rounds through one. (an early gun) He wasn't impressed. http://youtu.be/vTgFs-m59RY
I had an early P11 that I wanted to like so badly. I just couldn't get on target with it. Are they new models any better? Old Hickock sure looks like he has fun. He and I need to get together sometime.
Amen! AN epic meeting if there ever was one.
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Posted: 5/22/2014 6:11:35 PM EDT
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So the criteria for liking this pistol.. They sent one.... You compared it to a Keltec... You shot a few boxes thru it... it worked.... Am I missing anything? You could do the same with a Lorcin and pretty much get the same results... Yea, I know, I could do my own, but your the one who reviewed it, and you made a recommendation... you have been here 11 years. Seriously? Old Painless gives some of the best reviews I have read, he lays it out good bad and ugly, with all kinds of his tests and reviews. I don't see him saying it was the best of anything. I put more stock in his reviews then I do any magazine reviews. I swear more and more of ARFCOM is trying to become confrontational just so they can see themselves argue on the internet. |
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Posted: 5/23/2014 2:49:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, that was the criteria for liking it. Look man, not everyone had $500 to spend on a pistol. It is nice to get some sort of review for guns like this, even if they are anecdotal. It beats nothing. I don't see Old-Painless saying this is the best buy one can make for a small 9mm. He just said it worked for him. Maybe try not to read so much between the lines that isn't there next time? By the way, you COULD do your own review, but I don't know who the fuck you are. I put a lot more stock in O_P's assessment than yours. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So the criteria for liking this pistol.. They sent one.... You compared it to a Keltec... You shot a few boxes thru it... it worked.... Am I missing anything? You could do the same with a Lorcin and pretty much get the same results... Yea, I know, I could do my own, but your the one who reviewed it, and you made a recommendation... Yeah, that was the criteria for liking it. Look man, not everyone had $500 to spend on a pistol. It is nice to get some sort of review for guns like this, even if they are anecdotal. It beats nothing. I don't see Old-Painless saying this is the best buy one can make for a small 9mm. He just said it worked for him. Maybe try not to read so much between the lines that isn't there next time? By the way, you COULD do your own review, but I don't know who the fuck you are. I put a lot more stock in O_P's assessment than yours. Well said! OP has done more for random people than you'll ever do harv.
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Posted: 5/23/2014 4:17:10 AM EDT
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you have been here 11 years. Seriously? Old Painless gives some of the best reviews I have read, he lays it out good bad and ugly, with all kinds of his tests and reviews. I don't see him saying it was the best of anything. I put more stock in his reviews then I do any magazine reviews. I swear more and more of ARFCOM is trying to become confrontational just so they can see themselves argue on the internet. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So the criteria for liking this pistol.. They sent one.... You compared it to a Keltec... You shot a few boxes thru it... it worked.... Am I missing anything? You could do the same with a Lorcin and pretty much get the same results... Yea, I know, I could do my own, but your the one who reviewed it, and you made a recommendation... you have been here 11 years. Seriously? Old Painless gives some of the best reviews I have read, he lays it out good bad and ugly, with all kinds of his tests and reviews. I don't see him saying it was the best of anything. I put more stock in his reviews then I do any magazine reviews. I swear more and more of ARFCOM is trying to become confrontational just so they can see themselves argue on the internet. I having nothing against him, but you all treat him like he's Underwriters Laboratories.... I'm sorry if I didn't think his review was that stellar... but then again, I take my advice from subject matter experts in there field, not Hobbyist's who play with stuff in there back yard. If that makes me a dick, so be it. He basically shot a few boxes thru a gun and said, Not bad... and he titled it an evaluation. If that's all you need to decide on if a handgun is suitable for CCW (which is all this gun would be good for) then have at it. That's the problem with the internet.. anyone can be an expert as long as they have a camera and YouTube... Apparently everybody's internet favorite Hickok had the opposite opinion... so who do I listen to???? Who was correct in there evaluation??? at least he shot 500 rds thru it... I'm done here... |
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Posted: 5/23/2014 4:30:38 AM EDT
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Thanks again, Professor O_P
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Posted: 5/23/2014 5:48:56 AM EDT
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I'm done here... Thank You, Jesus. |
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Posted: 5/23/2014 8:42:54 AM EDT
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I having nothing against him, but you all treat him like he's Underwriters Laboratories.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
I having nothing against him, but you all treat him like he's Underwriters Laboratories.... No we don't. But that assessment combined with other research makes a difference. I think you are presuming a lot if you think that people would make a buy decision based on one review. Why would you think that? Why must you insist on creating some sort of strawman? At no point did O_P style himself as the end all/be all for gun reviews. He's a trust worthy source but he's never pretended to be the ONLY source. O_P's assessment is what it is. He didn't tell us all to run out and buy one immediately. He didn't misrepresent anything. The only one that has done that here is you. WTF is your malfunction? Quoted:
That's the problem with the internet.. anyone can be an expert as long as they have a camera and YouTube... Apparently everybody's internet favorite Hickok had the opposite opinion... so who do I listen to???? Who was correct in there evaluation??? at least he shot 500 rds thru it... Who the fuck said you had to listen to anybody? Who the fuck said that certain reviewers had to agree with one another? Finally, who is saying that an internet reviewer is the only source that one goes to for information? Not a damn soul except for you. You want to complain about the reviews made by others? Ok. Where's your fucking review? |
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Posted: 5/23/2014 11:57:46 AM EDT
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That's the problem with the internet.. anyone can be an expert as long as they have a camera and YouTube... Apparently everybody's internet favorite Hickok had the opposite opinion... so who do I listen to???? Who was correct in there evaluation??? at least he shot 500 rds thru it... Harv, did you watch Hickok's review? He said many of the same things at O_P, and had many positive things to say about the pistol, Including "It feels very well made" and "appears to be a quality gun" @20:00 in the review. But with a month's shooting and almost 600 rounds he also noted issues. Like the pistol seemed to ammo sensitive, which contributed to the logged failures (two of which are shown in the video using ARMSCOR ammo). But even Hickok noted in his review " don't use any ONE source for info on the gun, and the great thing about the 'net is you can get data from a variety of sources to get a variety of impressions." IMHO it doesn't look like a bad gun, especially if you find ammo it likes. It's thicker than say an LC9, which means it's no 'pocket pistol'; but it holds more than the LC9 and I'll bet it's wider grip means it's more comfortable to shoot a string. It's not Glock, but not everyone has the money for a Glock or Sig. |
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Posted: 5/23/2014 1:04:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I having nothing against him, but you all treat him like he's Underwriters Laboratories.... I'm sorry if I didn't think his review was that stellar... but then again, I take my advice from subject matter experts in there field, not Hobbyist's who play with stuff in there back yard. If that makes me a dick, so be it. He basically shot a few boxes thru a gun and said, Not bad... and he titled it an evaluation. If that's all you need to decide on if a handgun is suitable for CCW (which is all this gun would be good for) then have at it. That's the problem with the internet.. anyone can be an expert as long as they have a camera and YouTube... Apparently everybody's internet favorite Hickok had the opposite opinion... so who do I listen to???? Who was correct in there evaluation??? at least he shot 500 rds thru it... I'm done here... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: So the criteria for liking this pistol.. They sent one.... You compared it to a Keltec... You shot a few boxes thru it... it worked.... Am I missing anything? You could do the same with a Lorcin and pretty much get the same results... Yea, I know, I could do my own, but your the one who reviewed it, and you made a recommendation... you have been here 11 years. Seriously? Old Painless gives some of the best reviews I have read, he lays it out good bad and ugly, with all kinds of his tests and reviews. I don't see him saying it was the best of anything. I put more stock in his reviews then I do any magazine reviews. I swear more and more of ARFCOM is trying to become confrontational just so they can see themselves argue on the internet. I having nothing against him, but you all treat him like he's Underwriters Laboratories.... I'm sorry if I didn't think his review was that stellar... but then again, I take my advice from subject matter experts in there field, not Hobbyist's who play with stuff in there back yard. If that makes me a dick, so be it. He basically shot a few boxes thru a gun and said, Not bad... and he titled it an evaluation. If that's all you need to decide on if a handgun is suitable for CCW (which is all this gun would be good for) then have at it. That's the problem with the internet.. anyone can be an expert as long as they have a camera and YouTube... Apparently everybody's internet favorite Hickok had the opposite opinion... so who do I listen to???? Who was correct in there evaluation??? at least he shot 500 rds thru it... I'm done here... Good day, Sir.
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