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9/20/2018 1:31:57 AM EDT
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SHout out to superdrag67, nice meeting you, briefly, thank you for the parts! Most appreciated, sir!
9/20/2018 1:48:32 AM EDT
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Quoted:  SHout out to superdrag67, nice meeting you, briefly, thank you for the parts! Most appreciated, sir!
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Pics, we wants pics of the parts.  This inspires others to give parts, b/c they makes the mistake of mentioning these threads to their wives, who see an opportunity to cleans the house...
9/20/2018 2:14:09 AM EDT
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@backbencher

Is there any rules against Glock frames / lower receivers?
9/20/2018 2:23:40 AM EDT
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If the FCS well or holes have been drilled or milled, it'll have to go through an FFL, no?
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I was thinking of the older versions from 10+ years ago that weren't nearly as completed as current ones, and there were lots more mistakes made.   I think your right that additional correct work  means it is a legal receiver.   What about if the additional work was done incorrectly and must be repaired?  I'm trying to do a really cheap build.   The local FFLs are another $25 per transfer.
9/20/2018 9:20:23 AM EDT
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Is there any rules against Glock frames / lower receivers?
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Since this is targeted towards noobs, and I've already spun the parts off into a separate thread, I think that would unnecessarily complicate things.  If you have one or more to give away, I would suggest copying my OP, modifying it as you like, and starting your own thread.  I'm building a 26 on a Poly 80 frame, so I would welcome a thread like that.
9/20/2018 9:32:43 AM EDT
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Quoted:  I was thinking of the older versions from 10+ years ago that weren't nearly as completed as current ones, and there were lots more mistakes made.   I think your right that additional correct work  means it is a legal receiver.   What about if the additional work was done incorrectly and must be repaired?  I'm trying to do a really cheap build.   The local FFLs are another $25 per transfer.
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That sucks.  I would think, however, BATFE will view an 80% lower w/ any part of the FCS pocket milled, correct trigger or hammer pin holes drilled, or a correct safety hole drilled as a Title 1 firearm - or manufacturers would be producing lowers w/ that stuff already drilled.

EP Armory has some very inexpensive plastic 80% lowers, and before you scoff, they are very easily reinforced with this:

https://www.opticsplanet.com/vism-ar-blastar-thumbhole.html



It may be a wash w/ a regular aluminum 80% by the time you pay $30 for the thumbhole stock, however.

The least expensive way to get a LOT of lowers:

http://ar15mold.com/



In the Fruity Ghost thread, someone figured out what 2-part epoxy they're reselling, and it was calculated a lower could be poured for as little as $7.
9/20/2018 9:38:26 AM EDT
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That sucks.  I would think, however, BATFE will view an 80% lower w/ any part of the FCS pocket milled, correct trigger or hammer pin holes drilled, or a correct safety hole drilled as a Title 1 firearm - or manufacturers would be producing lowers w/ that stuff already drilled.

EP Armory has some very inexpensive plastic 80% lowers, and before you scoff, they are very easily reinforced with this:

https://www.opticsplanet.com/vism-ar-blastar-thumbhole.html

https://op1.0ps.us/978-550-ffffff/opplanet-vism-ar-blastar-thumbhole-stock-black-vkarstk.jpg

It may be a wash w/ a regular aluminum 80% by the time you pay $30 for the thumbhole stock, however.

The least expensive way to get a LOT of lowers:

http://ar15mold.com/

https://cdn3.bigcommerce.com/s-hdcm5x0o/product_images/theme_images/freedom15_ar15mold.com_102115_2910x1245_970_415__21622.jpg?t=1474433880

In the Fruity Ghost thread, someone figured out what 2-part epoxy they're reselling, and it was calculated a lower could be poured for as little as $7.
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Iirc they even slapped some manufacturer that was simply marking the spots to be drilled. I think there was another that had a raised spot where the 3rd hole would be and they ruled them machine guns.
9/20/2018 10:44:32 AM EDT
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Quoted:  Iirc they even slapped some manufacturer that was simply marking the spots to be drilled. I think there was another that had a raised spot where the 3rd hole would be and they ruled them machine guns.
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EP Armory had an integral jig, where the trigger & hammer holes were marked w/ small raised nubs.  BATFE raided them and their largest distributor; ultimately, EP Armory brought out their 2nd version, with no nubs, but offer an adhesive paper jig.

An anodizer had taken in engraved retro lowers made from 80%, with engraved marks at the 3rd Hole of Happiness, and a BATFE agent seized them.
9/20/2018 12:51:11 PM EDT
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EP Armory had an integral jig, where the trigger & hammer holes were marked w/ small raised nubs.  BATFE raided them and their largest distributor; ultimately, EP Armory brought out their 2nd version, with no nubs, but offer an adhesive paper jig.

An anodizer had taken in engraved retro lowers made from 80%, with engraved marks at the 3rd Hole of Happiness, and a BATFE agent seized them.
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I had the details a little jumbled, but those were the cases I was thinking of.
9/20/2018 2:17:44 PM EDT
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I'm really looking for an older 6061 alloy lower.  Want to do some welding on it, and if my welding doesn't work,  I won't have ruined anything but a previously messed up 80%er,   There is a gunshow coming up that should have something I can experiment with.
9/20/2018 5:45:39 PM EDT
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I think someone is still putting out a 6061 80% lower.  Did you look @ the 80% lowers thread in the DIY forum?
9/21/2018 5:06:19 AM EDT
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I'm really looking for an older 6061 alloy lower.  Want to do some welding on it, and if my welding doesn't work,  I won't have ruined anything but a previously messed up 80%er,   There is a gunshow coming up that should have something I can experiment with.
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Any welding on T6 tempered aluminum will probably be hot enough to remove the tempering.  This will weaken the part and make it more susceptible to stretching under load.

On a lower this may not be too big of an issue since there’s not a lot of strain on them, just something to be aware of since most lowers are 6061-T6 or 7075-T6.
9/21/2018 5:21:55 AM EDT
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I was thinking of beefing up a few areas and extending the right side and rear side of the magwell, so I could change mags while keeping both eyes on a threat.   Just an idea I've had in the back of my mind for years, and want to try it while I still have access to a welder.   I found two sellers of 6061 lowers but they are a little pricey for my application.
9/21/2018 5:30:46 AM EDT
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What's the arfom approved resizing dookikey? My phone isn't potato enough, or I am too much potato.
9/21/2018 11:25:12 AM EDT
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Try setting your camera to a lower resolution.
9/21/2018 11:37:38 AM EDT
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I was thinking of beefing up a few areas and extending the right side and rear side of the magwell, so I could change mags while keeping both eyes on a threat.   Just an idea I've had in the back of my mind for years, and want to try it while I still have access to a welder.   I found two sellers of 6061 lowers but they are a little pricey for my application.
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Might try refining your idea in steel 1st.  The FlatSpot has steel 80% flats you weld or braze together.
9/21/2018 12:16:59 PM EDT
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Was finally able to pick up the lower last night.

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And it’s all together.

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9/21/2018 12:21:47 PM EDT
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Outstanding!  Ladies and Gentlemen, this is how you do it.
9/21/2018 2:56:37 PM EDT
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Might try refining your idea in steel 1st.  The FlatSpot has steel 80% flats you weld or braze together.
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I looked at those.   Seems like you'd need to be a very skilled TIG welder with a nice machine, to prevent the heat from pulling parts out of alignment.   I'd give one a try but it would probably have a 50/50 chance of success, and I need to get my build done in 3 weeks.
9/21/2018 3:09:02 PM EDT
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Several have been done here.  Perhaps the nicest one was a brazed one.  It's mild steel - if it's not in perfect alignment, you hit it w/ a hammer til it is.

I'm trying to solder one together, no luck yet.
9/24/2018 6:25:08 PM EDT
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I wish. But I'm slowly getting the tools and parts together. Requested pic of parts so far will be forthcoming shortly.
9/24/2018 7:32:46 PM EDT
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Requested pic. Can't do much until I get the drill and 9/64th drill bit, (nobody within 100 miles of me carries a number 27 bit, this is as close as I can get), and hog out the detent hole for the safety selector. Only thing I can do it put in the buffer tube and maybe the bolt stop/mag release. FCG will have to wait. Need BCG, gas block and sights, I think is all that left - carbine length gas tube inbound. Is there supposed to be something holding the barrel in place? Yes, super stupid question indeed, but I have zero knowledge.



Sorry I am moving so much slower than everyone else.
9/24/2018 9:53:34 PM EDT
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You can just hold the bbl in place, should work fine.  

No, actually your rail probably came w/ the bbl nut it will clamp to.  Just unscrew the rail from the upper, stick the bbl in, and then screw the rail back down, you'll see how it goes.  For final assembly, you might want some lithium grease btwn the bbl & the upper.
9/26/2018 4:49:23 PM EDT
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Moved
9/26/2018 5:37:02 PM EDT
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Quoted:  Can ship out an A2 Fixed stock kit if anyone is in need.

Swapped out the A2 butt plate (with the C1 butt plate) to add to the Cav C1 stock.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/hj4ule6h3z42wr2/IMG_0806.jpg?raw=1
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Thanks for showing the love to this thread, but we've already moved the parts over here:

https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/2146304_That-Every-Man-Be-Armed-Free-AR-parts-Please-contribute-your-old-parts-1st-rifle-Pg-3-.html
9/28/2018 4:13:39 AM EDT
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That sucks.  I would think, however, BATFE will view an 80% lower w/ any part of the FCS pocket milled, correct trigger or hammer pin holes drilled, or a correct safety hole drilled as a Title 1 firearm - or manufacturers would be producing lowers w/ that stuff already drilled.

EP Armory has some very inexpensive plastic 80% lowers, and before you scoff, they are very easily reinforced with this:

https://www.opticsplanet.com/vism-ar-blastar-thumbhole.html

https://op1.0ps.us/978-550-ffffff/opplanet-vism-ar-blastar-thumbhole-stock-black-vkarstk.jpg

It may be a wash w/ a regular aluminum 80% by the time you pay $30 for the thumbhole stock, however.

The least expensive way to get a LOT of lowers:

http://ar15mold.com/

https://cdn3.bigcommerce.com/s-hdcm5x0o/product_images/theme_images/freedom15_ar15mold.com_102115_2910x1245_970_415__21622.jpg?t=1474433880

In the Fruity Ghost thread, someone figured out what 2-part epoxy they're reselling, and it was calculated a lower could be poured for as little as $7.
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Don't suppose you have a link to that thread?
9/28/2018 5:48:06 AM EDT
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You can just hold the bbl in place, should work fine.  

No, actually your rail probably came w/ the bbl nut it will clamp to.  Just unscrew the rail from the upper, stick the bbl in, and then screw the rail back down, you'll see how it goes.  For final assembly, you might want some lithium grease btwn the bbl & the upper.
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It did indeed, my bad.  Barrel temporary in place prior to torque/final assembly, gas tube came in, ordering BCG this weekend. Toolcraft.
9/28/2018 8:05:01 AM EDT
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Give me a bit, barely awake.  Boris of shovel AK and Iron Glock fame.
10/3/2018 12:51:16 PM EDT
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I think this is the one:

https://www.ar15.com/forums/AR-15/-ARCHIVED-THREAD-ar15mold-com-any-reviews-yet-/4-688907/?page=3
10/3/2018 5:42:28 PM EDT
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My apologies - this is the Fruity Ghost thread:

https://www.ar15.com/forums/ar-15/Fruity_Ghost___DIY_100s_of_ARs_cheaper__faster__gentler_/4-676733/
10/17/2018 6:14:57 PM EDT
[#31]
Almost done. More pics in the Parts thread.

10/17/2018 6:57:58 PM EDT
[#32]
Woot!
10/17/2018 7:08:36 PM EDT
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Edit: now I want to cast a 100% ‘cutaway’ AR out of clear resin. Clone every part but pins and springs in resin. It won’t be finctional, but it would be a neat conversation piece and tech show off bit.

@Boris_Build any thoughts?  
10/17/2018 7:45:26 PM EDT
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@armoredman Sights inbound?
10/17/2018 7:46:59 PM EDT
[#35]
Cool thread. I need to build one with my son. He would love it
10/17/2018 9:19:23 PM EDT
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Not yet that I'm aware of, looking to scrape the pantry to buy something in a month or so.
10/17/2018 10:32:51 PM EDT
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Not yet that I'm aware of, looking to scrape the pantry to buy something in a month or so.
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Slide in my DMs, homie.
10/18/2018 12:43:13 AM EDT
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Edit: now I want to cast a 100% ‘cutaway’ AR out of clear resin. Clone every part but pins and springs in resin. It won’t be finctional, but it would be a neat conversation piece and tech show off bit.

@Boris_Build any thoughts?  
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Probably will get hold of him faster through NE Shooters Forum.

http://www.ar15mold.com sells a Delrin mold.
10/18/2018 1:33:38 AM EDT
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Not yet that I'm aware of, looking to scrape the pantry to buy something in a month or so.
Slide in my DMs, homie.
PM sent, thank you.
10/18/2018 2:12:21 AM EDT
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Probably will get hold of him faster through NE Shooters Forum.

http://www.ar15mold.com sells a Delrin mold.
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Edit: now I want to cast a 100% ‘cutaway’ AR out of clear resin. Clone every part but pins and springs in resin. It won’t be finctional, but it would be a neat conversation piece and tech show off bit.

@Boris_Build any thoughts?  
Probably will get hold of him faster through NE Shooters Forum.

http://www.ar15mold.com sells a Delrin mold.
Fair enough

It’ll probably be a good long while before I get the money, space, supplies, and time to do this anyhow.  If I do it, it’ll be pressure cast with different lightly tinted batches of Clearcast 7000.  That way even if the ‘trainer’ is fully assembled, you’ll be able to see the different parts because of slight color differences and whatnot.  But it’s on my list of stuff to do.  Plus it’ll be a hell of a conversation piece.  An entire non-functional but mechanically identical copy of an AR and all.  Rubber Duckie Mk II maybe.
10/18/2018 1:06:18 PM EDT
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There's already someone making a clear polymer lower.  I don't think it carries their usual warranty.  Probably best in a thumbhole stock.
10/31/2018 12:46:32 AM EDT
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Completed, but not yet working right. Might be the poly lower, might be the barrel/chamber, don't know. I know the flat wire spring got rid of the SPROIIIIINNNNNGGG.



Going to go back to the guy who built it when he has free time again. But build is done within 3 months.
11/6/2018 5:50:50 PM EDT
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I was talking to my son-in-law the other day and it looks like he had to sell the AR lower I gave him to his stepfather to help pay bills without building the rifle. I can't afford to buy him another right at this juncture due to financial woes of my own, although I can pony up a mess of spare parts (those that I haven't been giving away in the other threads, anyway).

He's a good kid, but has health issues that don't allow him to work any kind of scheduled job. Makes what he can with side jobs, but it's never enough.

This would be his only rifle.

My daughter is set. Some of you may remember the infamous leopard print AR I built her some years ago when I was slightly more flush.
11/6/2018 11:11:48 PM EDT
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Success! Posted already in the parts thread, but I wanted it to be here as well, since this is where it started. :)

https://youtu.be/R0HQwI6Af_w

A huge thank you to everyone involved, most kind and generous of you!!!
11/7/2018 12:52:41 AM EDT
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Quoted:  Success! Posted already in the parts thread, but I wanted it to be here as well, since this is where it started. :)

https://youtu.be/R0HQwI6Af_w

A huge thank you to everyone involved, most kind and generous of you!!!
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