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Posted: 12/27/2015 2:36:17 PM EDT
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“We’ll lower premiums by up to $2,500 for a typical family per year. We’ll do it by the end of my first term as president of the United States”
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Posted: 12/27/2015 2:36:24 PM EDT
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As a retention NCO in the reserves I just shake my head and chuckle at the snot nosed e4s who think they know it all and are getting out of the reserves as soon as they piss away their gi bill. At 40 yo I have transfered my gi bill to my kid, an using army tuition assistance to cover whatever school I want and am using tricare for $ 200 a month and saving $300 a month over what my city job offers. I'll be in the reserves until I qualify for tricare without it.
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Posted: 12/27/2015 2:51:14 PM EDT
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As a retention NCO in the reserves I just shake my head and chuckle at the snot nosed e4s who think they know it all and are getting out of the reserves as soon as they piss away their gi bill. At 40 yo I have transfered my gi bill to my kid, an using army tuition assistance to cover whatever school I want and am using tricare for $ 200 a month and saving $300 a month over what my city job offers. I'll be in the reserves until I qualify for tricare without it. Very good plan. I would love it if I could have done this. I work in civil service so I was not eligible for tri-care reserve select. I will qualify for the retiree Tricare when I turn 60. So at least I got that going for me. My special needs son, and my wife have some health issues, so I have to have health insurance. If I were single, I would just use the VA since I qualify to be treated there due to my 70% disability rating. |
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Posted: 12/27/2015 2:52:25 PM EDT
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For many; Obama care is medical insurance without medical care; the biggest scam ever perpetrated.
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Posted: 12/27/2015 2:59:19 PM EDT
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I kept my health care when I retired. My wife's insurance is fucked up. The local hospital is in network but none of the doctors are. It literally pays for nothing. Fuck you nobama and fuck every goddamned democRAT.
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Posted: 12/27/2015 2:59:50 PM EDT
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Afordable !
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Posted: 12/27/2015 3:07:28 PM EDT
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Yep, starting the first of the year I won't have health insurance
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Posted: 12/27/2015 3:10:15 PM EDT
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Maybe find a new job? The hospital my wife works at pays all of her insurance and my policy through my employer costs me around 200 a month for myself and two kids. I would. It's $50 a month for BCBS for my family with my wife employer. |
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Posted: 12/27/2015 3:21:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't play their game: Liberty Health Share This Dr. is very knowledgeable, teaches you how to go outside the system and get the same or better healthcare. DR Elaina George Hope this helps. Good luck , thats alot of cheddar to be paying out. I've heard about that. Is it really a good option? |
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Posted: 12/27/2015 3:27:28 PM EDT
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That right there burns my fucking ass. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Truth right here. My cousin has 2 kids by a prison dweller and she is a beautician that does nails. Probably brings in 20k per year. Gets housing assistance, heating assistance, electrical, ebt, and federal medical assistance. Lives very well and kids have no needs. She used to get a 10k tax return every year. Paid in under $100 for the year in federal tax. That right there burns my fucking ass. Yup, blatant income redistribution |
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Posted: 12/27/2015 3:27:56 PM EDT
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Not trying to sound all "black-helicopter-and-tin-foil-hat", but if something like Obamacare doesn't cause enough responsible people in this country to literally move toward overthrowing this government, then we are truly sunk as a free people. Many would argue that we gave that up long ago on other matters, but anyone with half a brain should see that this administration and just about all of this congress are hellbent on destroying this country and all its values. Man...I sound like a neckbeard goober making a statement like that, but...
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Posted: 12/27/2015 3:30:37 PM EDT
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it is working as designed.
12K deductible is not health insurance. the democrats effectively pulled low cost insurance to make a mandatory single payer system a reality. thank a democrat- often and with severe language. |
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Posted: 12/27/2015 3:47:26 PM EDT
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I've heard about that. Is it really a good option? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Don't play their game: Liberty Health Share This Dr. is very knowledgeable, teaches you how to go outside the system and get the same or better healthcare. DR Elaina George Hope this helps. Good luck , thats alot of cheddar to be paying out. I've heard about that. Is it really a good option? Yes, you get better deals, cause its the same as paying cash,which means the prices you pay are less. Your choice of whatever doctor hospital you want. No networks, denial of care or"we don't pay for that " Down side, which really isn't is gotta pay out pocket if it's less than a grand for the treatment. But really considering what the OP is going thru, this is a way better option. It's worth looking it over and comparing. And its all about freedom of choice. |
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Posted: 12/27/2015 3:54:47 PM EDT
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The Obamacare changes doubled my premiums, and more-than-doubled our OOP limit for the family.
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Posted: 12/27/2015 3:54:51 PM EDT
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Yes, you get better deals, cause its the same as paying cash,which means the prices you pay are less. Your choice of whatever doctor hospital you want. No networks, denial of care or"we don't pay for that " Down side, which really isn't is gotta pay out pocket if it's less than a grand for the treatment. But really considering what the OP is going thru, this is a way better option. It's worth looking it over and comparing. And its all about freedom of choice. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Don't play their game: Liberty Health Share This Dr. is very knowledgeable, teaches you how to go outside the system and get the same or better healthcare. DR Elaina George Hope this helps. Good luck , thats alot of cheddar to be paying out. I've heard about that. Is it really a good option? Yes, you get better deals, cause its the same as paying cash,which means the prices you pay are less. Your choice of whatever doctor hospital you want. No networks, denial of care or"we don't pay for that " Down side, which really isn't is gotta pay out pocket if it's less than a grand for the treatment. But really considering what the OP is going thru, this is a way better option. It's worth looking it over and comparing. And its all about freedom of choice. Just the monthly cost of my son's medical supplies is almost $9,000 a month. His 24 hour home health nursing care costs over $30,000 a month. Luckily, this is all covered by insurance after the $12,000 max out of pocket is met. It's either what I have now or quit my job and go on welfare and get Medicaid, and we all know how deplorable that is. |
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Posted: 12/27/2015 3:58:26 PM EDT
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All to get 3-4% of the people without health insurance free insurance.
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Posted: 12/27/2015 3:58:35 PM EDT
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We got hammered too. We're going to have a sit down in January and figure out what we're going to do. Health insurance premiums have become our #1 expense.
I think the .gov is at a loss as to what to do. They can't push single payer through and they can't fix Obamacare. I also think that they don't give a fuck about anyone but themselves. |
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Posted: 12/27/2015 3:58:55 PM EDT
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I used to have a $500 deductible and $160 per month and I could go to any doctor or hospital. Now it's $7500 deductible, $345 a month and have to be in network. I rarely go to the doctor. I take no meds. So when I do, nothing is covered because of the deductible. In fact, I get nothing for paying more. In fact, I and millions of others have lost the excellent healthcare we once had. I'm in the same boat. I only pay $270 a month (for now) and have a $6000 deductible. I rarely go to the doc and no meds. It sucks paying for nothing. 
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Posted: 12/27/2015 4:25:06 PM EDT
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Socialism is great for the leeches....right Bernie? Does anyone here really believe the gutless, corrupt, pos, obunghole ass kissing dems AND repubs in D. C. give a fat flying fuck unless they get camera time? If you do, you need to take off your rose colored glasses. Bunch of piss colored, lop eared fucksticks who care about one thing...themselves! Their Cadillac plans are a "fuck you" to all who actually pay their fucking salaries. I can't believe a shit load of those traitorous fucks have not been eliminated.
  
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Posted: 12/27/2015 4:27:33 PM EDT
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it is working as designed. 12K deductible is not health insurance. the democrats effectively pulled low cost insurance to make a mandatory single payer system a reality. thank a democrat- often and with severe language a large blunt object. Fixed it for you. |
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Posted: 12/27/2015 4:51:39 PM EDT
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Part of the social engineering by the left. people on welfare get all that for free. Working people are forced to pay a lot for each child. Working people decide they can't afford kids. welfare recipients breed unchecked. And what is the result? There is part of that 'fundamental change' that obama promised. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's shit like this that's another reason we never had any kids. The nation is lost and I'm running as light as possible to the end. Part of the social engineering by the left. people on welfare get all that for free. Working people are forced to pay a lot for each child. Working people decide they can't afford kids. welfare recipients breed unchecked. And what is the result? There is part of that 'fundamental change' that obama promised. Bingo. Designed to grow the FSA. and FBHO! |
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Posted: 12/27/2015 5:09:12 PM EDT
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Just the monthly cost of my son's medical supplies is almost $9,000 a month. His 24 hour home health nursing care costs over $30,000 a month. Luckily, this is all covered by insurance after the $12,000 max out of pocket is met. It's either what I have now or quit my job and go on welfare and get Medicaid, and we all know how deplorable that is. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Don't play their game: Liberty Health Share This Dr. is very knowledgeable, teaches you how to go outside the system and get the same or better healthcare. DR Elaina George Hope this helps. Good luck , thats alot of cheddar to be paying out. I've heard about that. Is it really a good option? Yes, you get better deals, cause its the same as paying cash,which means the prices you pay are less. Your choice of whatever doctor hospital you want. No networks, denial of care or"we don't pay for that " Down side, which really isn't is gotta pay out pocket if it's less than a grand for the treatment. But really considering what the OP is going thru, this is a way better option. It's worth looking it over and comparing. And its all about freedom of choice. Just the monthly cost of my son's medical supplies is almost $9,000 a month. His 24 hour home health nursing care costs over $30,000 a month. Luckily, this is all covered by insurance after the $12,000 max out of pocket is met. It's either what I have now or quit my job and go on welfare and get Medicaid, and we all know how deplorable that is. It sounds like you are still making out 100x better then most others. At least you spend enough to actually start to use the insurance unlike a huge percentage that pays in the entire year and never comes close to covering the OOP cost so insurance picks up absolutely nothing. That is not to detract from your sons condition, I'm sure you'd much rather have a healthy son. |
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Posted: 12/27/2015 5:13:49 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/27/2015 5:14:33 PM EDT
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Mine went up $6,700/year.
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Posted: 12/27/2015 5:15:42 PM EDT
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It's shit like this that's another reason we never had any kids. The nation is lost and I'm running as light as possible to the end. |
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Posted: 12/27/2015 5:22:50 PM EDT
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I kept my health care when I retired. My wife's insurance is fucked up. The local hospital is in network but none of the doctors are. It literally pays for nothing. Fuck you nobama and fuck every goddamned democRAT. While I agree that FBHO and the commiecrats, you should also fuck most of the Republicans who have done absolutely nothing to repeal the ACA. |
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Posted: 12/27/2015 5:24:04 PM EDT
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This year I got a 25% increase in coverage.
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Posted: 12/27/2015 5:24:15 PM EDT
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What pisses me off is that before Obamacare, I could've gotten insurance for me and my wife for about $150 a month. After, it's at least $450 a month for both of us.
Now I can't afford it so I just continue to go without. Aint that something. |
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Posted: 12/27/2015 5:35:59 PM EDT
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What pisses me off is that before Obamacare, I could've gotten insurance for me and my wife for about $150 a month. After, it's at least $450 a month for both of us. Now I can't afford it so I just continue to go without. Aint that something. You can't afford 450 a month but you can afford a gun/shooting habit  .
I wouldn't be happy with 450 a month either but compared to many that's cheap. Mines really cheap and I feel blessed, in 13 more years when I retire It will be lifelong and part of my pension package. Many of you guys should look in into working with the state or government. Lower salaries but the low cost insurance might be better off in the long run. |
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Posted: 12/27/2015 5:37:10 PM EDT
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It makes you want to punch a liberal dead in the face doesn't it?
All the objections conservatives had about Obamacare, and all the propaganda and lies they came back with. But were the stupid ones right? |
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Posted: 12/27/2015 5:39:56 PM EDT
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It was never meant to work for us. It was meant to collapse the system and have total government control of the health care rationing system. Most of us AREN'T meant to be able to receive the same level of health care and insurance coverage we were once accustomed to, when this was still a great and good country. Especially if you aren't of the right political affiliation, or right sort of job. The pie is only so big, and is clearly incapable of ever growing any bigger. So it must be rationed. And some of you, or your loved ones will have to die unnecessarily early and perhaps painful deaths. It is for the good of the ruling elite in the land. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Damn. You did get hit hard. My plan through my employer only went up like 7% this year (36% last year). It's not working and it's got to be fixed. For the handful that it is helping, 2x as many are probably in your position. It was never meant to work for us. It was meant to collapse the system and have total government control of the health care rationing system. Most of us AREN'T meant to be able to receive the same level of health care and insurance coverage we were once accustomed to, when this was still a great and good country. Especially if you aren't of the right political affiliation, or right sort of job. The pie is only so big, and is clearly incapable of ever growing any bigger. So it must be rationed. And some of you, or your loved ones will have to die unnecessarily early and perhaps painful deaths. It is for the good of the ruling elite in the land. The left want everyone to become dependents and this is how they plan to do it. Only the very wealthy or the unemployeed poor will be able to "make things work". Everyone else will not be able to afford children without the "help" of the state. |
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Posted: 12/27/2015 5:45:40 PM EDT
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as sad as this is, its the smartest thing i read on here in a long time.
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It's shit like this that's another reason we never had any kids. The nation is lost and I'm running as light as possible to the end. |
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Posted: 12/27/2015 5:50:38 PM EDT
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LOL, Yup.. thats how its designed.glad people are seeing it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
For many; Obama care is medical insurance without medical care; the biggest scam ever perpetrated. |
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Posted: 12/27/2015 5:51:48 PM EDT
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Quoted: I got hit with a pretty big fuck you from my health insurance company during open enrollment last month. My out of pocket max for the year went up from $4,000 to $12,000. My premium went from $410 month for a family of three to $750 month. We now have a $75 co-pay on office visits and that is up from $25. Our coverage is the same, I think. I don't see how we are going to afford this new fuck you with our special needs son. It looks like 100% of my take home pay, after cost of living expenses is fucking gone. Total cost for our health care will be $1,812.50 per month not including office visits. Fuck me sideways. I do not see how anyone can afford an extra $2,000 a month just for healthcare. This situation is as fucked as fucked can get. Now, if I decide to do without health insurance, I cannot afford to pay out of pocket for my son's healthcare needs, and the IRS will just tax me the penalty for not having health insurance. It is a fucked if you do fucked if you don't ass raping. This Obamacare scam cannot continue. Once single payer takes over, health care will take a straight up nosedive in quality and availability. When does the shooting start? Is anyone getting bent over as bad as this? |
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Posted: 12/27/2015 5:51:58 PM EDT
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its the people that pull the puppet strings that are the problem. the politicans are just the pitch men.
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it is working as designed. 12K deductible is not health insurance. the democrats effectively pulled low cost insurance to make a mandatory single payer system a reality. thank a democrat- often and with severe language. |
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Posted: 12/27/2015 5:52:30 PM EDT
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It's shit like this that's another reason we never had any kids. The nation is lost and I'm running as light as possible to the end. I have a two year old son and a three year old son along with a wife with chronic health issues. My employer provided health insurance is great but I dread opening every letter I get from them. I'm just waiting for THE letter. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 12/27/2015 5:59:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: While I am not getting bent over the barrel I do know a few that are. My mother is paying about $8K a year for just her. |
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Posted: 12/27/2015 6:02:50 PM EDT
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If you think health care is expensive wait until it's free.
Free for the low life leaches of society the will only bread more leaches that is! |
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Posted: 12/27/2015 6:03:12 PM EDT
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And the IRS is now going to revoke your passport if you don't pay your Obamacare fines...
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Posted: 12/27/2015 6:03:21 PM EDT
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That's the way communism works
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Posted: 12/27/2015 6:03:47 PM EDT
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Our Representatives really need to be taken out back and flogged for hours. Then thrown in salt water. Fuck em all. They got their so-called landslide and did zilch with it. It's "1994's Contract With America" redux. |
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Posted: 12/27/2015 6:10:23 PM EDT
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Pay or wait for the IRS stormtroopers.
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Posted: 12/27/2015 6:10:26 PM EDT
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Obamacare is going as planned.
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Posted: 12/27/2015 6:15:31 PM EDT
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Wtf
Damn that's bad. How the fuck do people who voted Obama get hit with things like this and still vote for that party? Not an nhs fan but things like this make it look brilliant. |
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Posted: 12/27/2015 6:18:44 PM EDT
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I really don't understand how some people are getting porked like this and actually able to afford it. My wife is a state employee and her single person blue cross blue shield plan costs her about $20.00 per month. I work for a large corporation and pay about $80.00 monthly for similar coverage. Yes we have large deductibles, but the coverage is OK. My oldest is active duty .mil and the younger is in college. His student health plan, also blue cross blue shield costs about $100.00 per month. It is a much better plan with low deductibles and co-pays. The individual coverages are cheaper for us by far compared to any family plan. I honestly dont know anybody who has benefitted from Obama care or who has been porked to the point where they pay myr effort insurance than their mortgage... I'm sure most folks are esomewhere in the middle with extreme cases on either end... Health insurance and health care in general has sucked long before Obama and it will continue to suck after he is gone and someone "fixes" it...
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Posted: 12/27/2015 6:22:59 PM EDT
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If you think health care is expensive wait until it's free. Free for the low life leaches of society the will only bread more leaches that is! It already is free for the low leaches. |
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Posted: 12/27/2015 6:25:20 PM EDT
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as smart as this is, its the saddest thing i read on here in a long time. Quote HistoryQuoted:
as smart as this is, its the saddest thing i read on here in a long time. Quoted:
It's shit like this that's another reason we never had any kids. The nation is lost and I'm running as light as possible to the end. FTFY |
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Posted: 12/27/2015 6:29:11 PM EDT
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I have a FSA relative who loved his Obama Care, until he found out what a $7,000 decuctable was.
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Posted: 12/27/2015 6:29:54 PM EDT
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I got hit with a pretty big fuck you from my health insurance company during open enrollment last month. My out of pocket max for the year went up from $4,000 to $12,000. My premium went from $410 month for a family of three to $750 month. We now have a $75 co-pay on office visits and that is up from $25. Our coverage is the same, I think. I don't see how we are going to afford this new fuck you with our special needs son. It looks like 100% of my take home pay, after cost of living expenses is fucking gone. Total cost for our health care will be $1,812.50 per month not including office visits. Fuck me sideways. I do not see how anyone can afford an extra $2,000 a month just for healthcare. This situation is as fucked as fucked can get. Now, if I decide to do without health insurance, I cannot afford to pay out of pocket for my son's healthcare needs, and the IRS will just tax me the penalty for not having health insurance. It is a fucked if you do fucked if you don't ass raping. This Obamacare scam cannot continue. Once single payer takes over, health care will take a straight up nosedive in quality and availability. When does the shooting start? Is anyone getting bent over as bad as this? well you need to get out and protest....and vote them out of office and call them, and a few other things I can't remember right now. GD says it works with the gun bans all the time...... no, what needs to be done here in the US sadly won't ever happen. now be a good little subject and pay your bill and stop complaining..... 
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Posted: 12/27/2015 6:34:10 PM EDT
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You can't afford 450 a month but you can afford a gun/shooting habit .
I wouldn't be happy with 450 a month either but compared to many that's cheap. Mines really cheap and I feel blessed, in 13 more years when I retire It will be lifelong and part of my pension package. Many of you guys should look in into working with the state or government. Lower salaries but the low cost insurance might be better off in the long run. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What pisses me off is that before Obamacare, I could've gotten insurance for me and my wife for about $150 a month. After, it's at least $450 a month for both of us. Now I can't afford it so I just continue to go without. Aint that something. You can't afford 450 a month but you can afford a gun/shooting habit .
I wouldn't be happy with 450 a month either but compared to many that's cheap. Mines really cheap and I feel blessed, in 13 more years when I retire It will be lifelong and part of my pension package. Many of you guys should look in into working with the state or government. Lower salaries but the low cost insurance might be better off in the long run. This can depend on where you live. In many rural areas this is not the case. |
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