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7/11/2019 11:08:57 AM EDT
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In other words, if it flops it will confirm their confirmation bias and completely justify their worldview.

Men aren't afraid of strong female leads. Ellen Ripley was a perfect example of that. She was strong, tough, and still human without pushing the GURL POWER narrative at the expense of the male supporting cast.
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You said it better than I did.
7/11/2019 11:09:43 AM EDT
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They know the film is in trouble. They’re already building their case about how it’s not their fault when it bombs.
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Pretty sure this nails it.
7/11/2019 11:10:01 AM EDT
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Sounds like they are prepping it for bad reviews.

Bad review = misogynist.
7/11/2019 11:12:35 AM EDT
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Virtue Signaling is not an economically viable business strategy.

And like Ghostbusters fem edition, people will be shamed as misogynists for not wanting to go see this drek.
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Depends on the industry.

For stuff we have no choice but to buy (necessities) like razors like with the whole Gilette ad nonsense- it is irrelevant because people will still buy your shit.

Wheaties is going to put some idiot on their boxes and I'll be shocked if that disgusting freak female soccer player isnt on the boxes starting next week.  So for her, the virtue signalling was a major success.  I dont think kids in the last few decades have cared who is on their boxes, but an empty orange box wouldnt stand out so they have to put somebody on there.

But with movies or other 100% want instead of need type products, ya the market is still highly indifferent to politics.  But even the most vapid normy will avoid being harangued about this kind of crap by simply avoiding the movie in the first place
7/11/2019 11:13:52 AM EDT
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"Because Terminator" hasn't been a compelling reason to watch one of these movies in a long, long time.
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Truth.  I was still in diapers the last time a Terminator movie was good.
7/11/2019 11:14:15 AM EDT
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She was good in Halt and Catch Fire
7/11/2019 11:15:31 AM EDT
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Annihilation wasn't an all womyn are awesome or men suck movie, the chick squad went just as psycho as the all male squad.  Portman's character won me over with her literally unflinching mag dump down the throat of the mutant alligator, attempted rescue scene, zombie bear scene, and how she pressed on through escalating scary weirdness to reach the lighthouse.  She was realistically tough in that movie.
7/11/2019 11:15:49 AM EDT
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Hopefully the money they don't make will scare the fuck out of them.
7/11/2019 11:18:45 AM EDT
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It's good that he doesn't care about my opinion of the movie because I wasn't going to see it anyway.
7/11/2019 11:19:19 AM EDT
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Major movie franchises such as "Ghostbusters" and "Star Wars" have been targeted by PEOPLE WHO ENJOY GOOD MOVIES in recent years for PUTTING OUT SHITTY MOVIES FOR THE PURPOSE OF FURTHERING DUMB SJW AGENDAS AT THE COST OF MAKING ACTUAL GOOD FILMS.
7/11/2019 11:19:22 AM EDT
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There were some complaints about her size, about how a robot little girl is no more a match against a large robot dude than their flesh and blood counterparts, which is fair.  But Summer Glau played the part well with a disturbing lack of emotion and, since Glau was a skilled ballet (and several other forms) dancer for many years, a machine-like precision and speed of movement.  Also she was an attractive woman dressed and made up as an attractive woman and she and the writers didn't try to make men feel like shit for appreciating her looks, so she's cool with me.
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I mean there's no reason a Killer Robot couldn't look like Girl Bugs Bunny, but generally in films action heroes and villians are mostly portrayed as imposting/intimidating. Would we watch Aliens if the creatures were killer tribbles? The weird unclear gendered super soldier from the future seems pretty obviously to be generated by "wokeness", rather than plot, which makes it a distraction.

My wife asked to go see Wonder Woman. While the third act was weak I thought the second act where Wonder Woman and the commandos are engaged in military conflict were excellent. Wonder Woman jumped out of the trenches, standing in a hail of machinegun fire and advancing to attack was a great movie scene.  But this just looks like Hollywood just being too weirdo for the rest of the US. I bet this flops in China
7/11/2019 11:21:34 AM EDT
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It does not seem to have dawned on them that mostly men go to see a Terminator movie. Once it's discovered that it's a SJW fest it will tank big time. I suspect that is already the case.

It's like when I went and saw Avengers End Game and that revamped Capt. Marvel bitch showed-up at the beginning there was a audible groan that went up from the the men in the packed theater. Thank goodness she had other things to do and did not have to see her narrow-ass again till almost at the end.
7/11/2019 11:22:08 AM EDT
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With a strong female protagonist, there must be an evil, white male Terminator to kill. Kill the patriarchy! Gurll Powah!

D*mmit, I wish they'd just tell a good story without an infusion of SJW & feminism.  It's OK if Sarah Conner is tough but don't John look like a helpless idjit.
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Close, bad terminator is an American citizen, but he's Hispanic.  Gabriel Luna

7/11/2019 11:22:43 AM EDT
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LOL.  should have casted Summer Glau for it.
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^ I'd pay to see that.
7/11/2019 11:23:29 AM EDT
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so is that a dude or a lady in the wife beater?
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I thought she looked great in Blade Runner 2049.

Now, I’m just sad.
7/11/2019 11:23:52 AM EDT
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I see Hollywood is doubling down on stupid again...that always works out the way they want it to.
7/11/2019 11:24:04 AM EDT
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Did they say that when Aliens came out?
7/11/2019 11:25:22 AM EDT
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They should remake Magic Mike with an all female cast instead.
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or  50 Shades of Grey
7/11/2019 11:25:55 AM EDT
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Larson posted a photo of herself on Instagram on July 8 in Jedi robes with a lightsaber while standing in a tunnel that looks straight out of the Death Star. Larson also captioned the image “The category is: JEDI REALNESS.”Attached File
7/11/2019 11:26:26 AM EDT
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Funny thing is, all the women I know aren't falling for this kind of pandering from Hollywood.

Listened to a bunch making fun of Captain Marvel the other day. They don't like being hit over the head with insincere "empowerment" movies.
7/11/2019 11:27:47 AM EDT
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7/11/2019 11:28:08 AM EDT
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I don’t care who they cast for what role.

However......

If you’re entire goal is to make some sort of statement by reinventing a franchise and marginalizing those who came before then you’ll get not one thin dime from me and I’ll chuckle when your film bombs.
7/11/2019 11:28:29 AM EDT
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Nope.  That would be sufficient for me to write off the whole series.
7/11/2019 11:29:06 AM EDT
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so is that a dude or a lady in the wife beater?
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My question as well....
7/11/2019 11:29:58 AM EDT
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Larson posted a photo of herself on Instagram on July 8 in Jedi robes with a lightsaber while standing in a tunnel that looks straight out of the Death Star. Larson also captioned the image “The category is: JEDI REALNESS.”https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/459941/8AC20B97-EFA0-47FF-AC8C-F3BA1B5E7183_jpeg-1012020.JPG
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Knowing Disney, she'll show up as a time traveling Captain Marvel.
Gotta get those crossover bucks!
7/11/2019 11:31:30 AM EDT
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I guess you could argue that a futuristic android cyborg whatever thingie doesn't need muscle mass, ....
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I'm not their target demo, which is fine.  And have fun, because in a post apocalyptic world setting, muscle mass isn't important?

As to Linda Hamilton, they did an outstanding job of showing a strong female lead in a credible execution of the story.  In this version, I have every confidence they will Crounching Tiger Hidden Dragon level ignore things like relative mass and physics, and it will probably suck.  But maybe not - if it's a good story delivered in a credible manner worthy of Linda Hamilton, it could be great
I guess you could argue that a futuristic android cyborg whatever thingie doesn't need muscle mass, ....
true. Go back and watch Mad Max, he wasn't a strapping strong dude, he just refused to say "I quit."

...if the film franchise wasn't built around a bodybuilder playing a killer robot
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7/11/2019 11:32:03 AM EDT
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Terminator: Dark Fate Will Scare Men (and Ticket Buyers Off)
7/11/2019 11:32:31 AM EDT
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I liked movies with tough hot chicks as lead characters...until they politicized them.
7/11/2019 11:34:33 AM EDT
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That. Was. TERRIBLE.

Holy shit that was bad.
7/11/2019 11:34:43 AM EDT
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you can't ghostbuster yourself.

That's the chan's job.
7/11/2019 11:34:49 AM EDT
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sarah conner kicked ass in SPITE of being a woman.. not because she was a woman. Pretending women can do everything better than men, even fight wars where endurance, and brute physical strength rule the day is beyond retarded. I think woman can do almost anything they want to do, if they want it bad enough, and they can do MOST things as well as a man if they really try. However they will never be able to do everything physically as well as a man, and its stupid to pretend otherwise. IMHO it just gives them a false sense of whats real,
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sarah conner kicked ass in SPITE of being a woman.. not because she was a woman. Pretending women can do everything better than men, even fight wars where endurance, and brute physical strength rule the day is beyond retarded. I think woman can do almost anything they want to do, if they want it bad enough, and they can do MOST things as well as a man if they really try. However they will never be able to do everything physically as well as a man, and its stupid to pretend otherwise. IMHO it just gives them a false sense of whats real,
outstanding post (with slight edit).

like the high school female who demanded to be able to quarter back a high school male football team. She fought the school in court for the ability to play, and the schools man reason for fighting against her playing was they feared she would be physically hurt playing with boys. she won the right to play after a court fight.

a few months later she was all busted up physically, with permanent life long injuries... and was suing the school because.... they didnt fully explain how dangerous it was for a female to be playing high school football with males was.
more info? I'd like to read up on that.
7/11/2019 11:35:23 AM EDT
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It's all so confusing.
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NAILED IT!!
7/11/2019 11:36:34 AM EDT
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It looks like basically the same movie they've already done over and over to me
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The Sarah Connor Chronicles was the most different in terms of telling a story and the bitches cancelled it at Fox.  Even ditching a chunk of the first season.  The story was basically Rogue/Woke Terminators plotting their own survival separate from Skynets continued and failed attempts.
7/11/2019 11:36:34 AM EDT
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I DON"T CARE ABOUT ANY OF THIS .... they create their own outrage out of nothing !!!!

ETA- and he talks real tough about not giving a fuck .... we'll see how much he cares after all the earnings are tabulated
7/11/2019 11:37:42 AM EDT
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Close, bad terminator is an American citizen, but he's Hispanic.  Gabriel Luna

https://img.cinemablend.com/filter:scale/quill/c/0/6/9/8/b/c0698b5c4fe09f0f6be1325c02b5d05882de2980.jpg?mw=600
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With a strong female protagonist, there must be an evil, white male Terminator to kill. Kill the patriarchy! Gurll Powah!

D*mmit, I wish they'd just tell a good story without an infusion of SJW & feminism.  It's OK if Sarah Conner is tough but don't John look like a helpless idjit.
Close, bad terminator is an American citizen, but he's Hispanic.  Gabriel Luna

https://img.cinemablend.com/filter:scale/quill/c/0/6/9/8/b/c0698b5c4fe09f0f6be1325c02b5d05882de2980.jpg?mw=600
No, that's Ghost Rider aka Robbie Reyes. See when he's in his human form he's Robbie but when he's in his non-on-fire skeleton mode he's Ghost Rider.
7/11/2019 11:38:25 AM EDT
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Uh, what the hell.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dylann_Roof

7/11/2019 11:39:36 AM EDT
[#38]
Do! Not! Want!

7/11/2019 11:39:54 AM EDT
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Geez, at this point I'm rooting for Skynet.
7/11/2019 11:40:18 AM EDT
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I just watched the trailer, and while some of it did seem insanely cringey, some of it seemed pretty good.  I guess time will tell.  I mean, I'm not going to allow this movie to make me break my successful "not going to see movies in a theater" streak, but it might be halfway decent and halfway shitty.   Hell, maybe I just coined the phrase of the decade.  "Shiticent."  Half shitty, half decent.
7/11/2019 11:40:21 AM EDT
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No two movies are better proof that white dudes are fine with woman as leading characters in action movies than Terminator 1 and 2. How many millions of times as the photo of Sarah Connors cleaning a rifle been posted here? But an all girl cast? What next, a Terminator in a cartoon rabbit's body?

Is the movie set in South America? Seems like an all hispanic cast outside of two of the main characters
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Well all of these movies take place in southern california...
7/11/2019 11:41:12 AM EDT
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So are the trailers cgi of that actress's head on a skinny dude? Are breasts, which appear normal in other photos, taped down?
7/11/2019 11:46:20 AM EDT
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Annihilation wasn't an all womyn are awesome or men suck movie, the chick squad went just as psycho as the all male squad.  Portman's character won me over with her literally unflinching mag dump down the throat of the mutant alligator, attempted rescue scene, zombie bear scene, and how she pressed on through escalating scary weirdness to reach the lighthouse.  She was realistically tough in that movie.
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Annihilation wasn't an all womyn are awesome or men suck movie, the chick squad went just as psycho as the all male squad.  Portman's character won me over with her literally unflinching mag dump down the throat of the mutant alligator, attempted rescue scene, zombie bear scene, and how she pressed on through escalating scary weirdness to reach the lighthouse.  She was realistically tough in that movie.
And she got .308 mags to work in a 5.56. Props.
7/11/2019 11:49:35 AM EDT
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Killing Terminators, 24/7, except on their heavy flow days.
7/11/2019 11:53:05 AM EDT
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Some may remember her from Blade Runner 2049.

7/11/2019 11:57:02 AM EDT
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That Miller whoever sounds like a moron who gets his/her ideas on life and how people think out of a fortune cookie...
7/11/2019 11:58:22 AM EDT
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I question if Tim Miller has ever even seen the first two Terminator movies.  Sarah has always been super-tough (for about 20 years, "tough chick main characters" was basically her and Ripley).  She starts out the first one as a semi-ditzy waitress who gets targeted by a future AI, not because of who she is, but who her son will be.  By the end of the movie, she's the one who survives and finishes off the Terminator.  The second movie has her as Commando (dysfunctional) Mom, having taught her son guerilla warfare and terrorism.

Yes, they may have gay'ed it up for this new installment....but not because Sarah is now some "empowered" woman.  She had already been that since the 80's.

Non-story.  Hope the new movie isn't crap.
7/11/2019 12:07:55 PM EDT
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Really enjoyed her in The Martian.

Now I can't unsee it.

7/11/2019 12:16:06 PM EDT
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Good grief!

First Justin Beeber now this.

Fuck you Canadia!
7/11/2019 12:20:43 PM EDT
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I think that guy plays soccer for the US women’s team.

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