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Posted: 7/1/2015 4:21:49 PM EDT
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I will be riding by there Friday morning on the way to WV.
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Posted: 7/1/2015 4:53:28 PM EDT
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Does that Truck Driver get drug tested automatically too? Drug tested automatically? You betcha 
They will be going over his log book with a very fine tooth comb. DOT will be going over the truck with same comb. Driver will probably lose his job and license is on the hook. 
Companys ins will probably be dropping them after they pay for this fiasco. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:00:34 PM EDT
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So it was obviously the truck driver's fault? Since it's a commercial vehicle, Pretty much how they look at it.
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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:03:52 PM EDT
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And the trucker was supposed to take the outerbelt around the city since he's carrying HC, but he ignored it...so i guess it's extra fines for him
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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:37:59 PM EDT
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trucking company is losing money on that load.
The taxpayers may get a free overpass. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:43:16 PM EDT
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I got stuck for a bit on 71 today because a truck rolled over. Looked like it was on fire. Then there was a single car accident on 750. Interesting day on the road.
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Posted: 7/1/2015 6:30:49 PM EDT
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And the trucker was supposed to take the outerbelt around the city since he's carrying HC, but he ignored it...so i guess it's extra fines for him Unless he was delivering somewhere inside 270, then he's legit. OSP will also have his cell records pulled to see if he was talking or texting. I was supposed to take 70 to 270 south this morning, our shop I'd over there... I called them and told them to bring the material to me, I wasn't going to get stuck in that shit all morning. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 10:17:48 PM EDT
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One of the news reported ODOT already has a plan to reopen all lanes 70 WB and use that roadway for 2 lanes WB and 2 lanes EB while the whole EB bridge is repaired. Will suck but better than a total closure.
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Posted: 7/1/2015 11:41:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: One of the news reported ODOT already has a plan to reopen all lanes 70 WB and use that roadway for 2 lanes WB and 2 lanes EB while the whole EB bridge is repaired. Will suck but better than a total closure. live view |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 11:55:38 PM EDT
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Company and insurance is on the hook for the bridge costs.
So they're going to build a new bridge asap, as they'll get fined daily for the bridge being damaged and the traffic back ups. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 11:58:05 PM EDT
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Kind of makes me curious what that overpass will cost to replace.
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Posted: 7/2/2015 12:21:45 AM EDT
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Kind of makes me curious what that overpass will cost to replace. My company hauls hazmat, we are licensed and have the equipment to haul ethanol but I don't. We haul alot of gasoline and diesel however, along with mostly lubricants and some anti freeze. We are also the first team hazmat responders to a large area of NE Ohio for tanker roll overs. The last one we responded to was at i680 & 711 by pass in Youngstown, a sharp curve roll over. It took out 3 light poles and shut down i680 for about 7 hours. They lost 4500ish gallons of gasoline. We were able to evacuate the rest out. My bill to the company, just for evacuation, consultant and storage fees was $60,000 ish dollars. The gas they lost did get in the sewer system and detonated 3 houses in down town Youngstown, along with causing a few blocks of evacuation. Plus the road damage and clean up. I believe, their over all bill was 1.3-1.5 million. Depending on self insured or what company they use (only 4 major hazmat insurance companies. We rotate yearly), they'll max out their insurance at 10-12 million. Which, will ironically probably be the fines + repair cost bid according to the state. It all depends on what sort of daily fines the company gets hit with. The bridge will certainly cost 5-8 million to repair. If not more. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 12:25:49 AM EDT
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Why would he be fined by the EPA for Ethanol? The trucking company will have to pay for cleanup costs and damages. The driver will probably be ticketed. Ethanol is miscible, you don't want to get it in the water. In some ways, worse than gas or diesel, which you can absorb or boom. The Ohio EPA will only fine the company if they fail to take appropriate measures. Having an accident isn't necessarily a crime, failing to promptly and properly report and respond to a spill is a crime. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 12:26:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My company hauls hazmat, we are licensed and have the equipment to haul ethanol but I don't. We haul alot of gasoline and diesel however, along with mostly lubricants and some anti freeze. We are also the first team hazmat responders to a large area of NE Ohio for tanker roll overs. The last one we responded to was at i680 & 711 by pass in Youngstown, a sharp curve roll over. It took out 3 light poles and shut down i680 for about 7 hours. They lost 4500ish gallons of gasoline. We were able to evacuate the rest out. My bill to the company, just for evacuation, consultant and storage fees was $60,000 ish dollars. The gas they lost did get in the sewer system and detonated 3 houses in down town Youngstown, along with causing a few blocks of evacuation. Plus the road damage and clean up. I believe, their over all bill was 1.3-1.5 million. Depending on self insured or what company they use (only 4 major hazmat insurance companies. We rotate yearly), they'll max out their insurance at 10-12 million. Which, will ironically probably be the fines + repair cost bid according to the state. It all depends on what sort of daily fines the company gets hit with. The bridge will certainly cost 5-8 million to repair. If not more. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Kind of makes me curious what that overpass will cost to replace. My company hauls hazmat, we are licensed and have the equipment to haul ethanol but I don't. We haul alot of gasoline and diesel however, along with mostly lubricants and some anti freeze. We are also the first team hazmat responders to a large area of NE Ohio for tanker roll overs. The last one we responded to was at i680 & 711 by pass in Youngstown, a sharp curve roll over. It took out 3 light poles and shut down i680 for about 7 hours. They lost 4500ish gallons of gasoline. We were able to evacuate the rest out. My bill to the company, just for evacuation, consultant and storage fees was $60,000 ish dollars. The gas they lost did get in the sewer system and detonated 3 houses in down town Youngstown, along with causing a few blocks of evacuation. Plus the road damage and clean up. I believe, their over all bill was 1.3-1.5 million. Depending on self insured or what company they use (only 4 major hazmat insurance companies. We rotate yearly), they'll max out their insurance at 10-12 million. Which, will ironically probably be the fines + repair cost bid according to the state. It all depends on what sort of daily fines the company gets hit with. The bridge will certainly cost 5-8 million to repair. If not more. so you accept AmEx?  |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 12:28:06 AM EDT
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so you accept AmEx?
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Kind of makes me curious what that overpass will cost to replace. My company hauls hazmat, we are licensed and have the equipment to haul ethanol but I don't. We haul alot of gasoline and diesel however, along with mostly lubricants and some anti freeze. We are also the first team hazmat responders to a large area of NE Ohio for tanker roll overs. The last one we responded to was at i680 & 711 by pass in Youngstown, a sharp curve roll over. It took out 3 light poles and shut down i680 for about 7 hours. They lost 4500ish gallons of gasoline. We were able to evacuate the rest out. My bill to the company, just for evacuation, consultant and storage fees was $60,000 ish dollars. The gas they lost did get in the sewer system and detonated 3 houses in down town Youngstown, along with causing a few blocks of evacuation. Plus the road damage and clean up. I believe, their over all bill was 1.3-1.5 million. Depending on self insured or what company they use (only 4 major hazmat insurance companies. We rotate yearly), they'll max out their insurance at 10-12 million. Which, will ironically probably be the fines + repair cost bid according to the state. It all depends on what sort of daily fines the company gets hit with. The bridge will certainly cost 5-8 million to repair. If not more. so you accept AmEx?
Ironically they did pay us with an American express card. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 12:28:14 AM EDT
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And the trucker was supposed to take the outerbelt around the city since he's carrying HC, but he ignored it...so i guess it's extra fines for him Flammable but not really Hazardous. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 12:30:34 AM EDT
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0/10 overcooked. Bad dinner
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Posted: 7/2/2015 5:34:38 AM EDT
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Flammable but not really Hazardous. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And the trucker was supposed to take the outerbelt around the city since he's carrying HC, but he ignored it...so i guess it's extra fines for him Flammable but not really Hazardous. Flammable is pretty damn hazardous. Pretty sure that if it's placarded, it's supposed to stay on the HC routes unless they have a local delivery. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 5:45:50 AM EDT
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My buddy does insurance work for propane trucks. That's going to cost their company big time.
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Posted: 7/2/2015 5:46:30 AM EDT
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i was afraid of that, it's going to be a PITA detour, i wonder if that trucking company will have to pay for a new bridge? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That bridge is toast. Commuters in that area are about to get bent over. i was afraid of that, it's going to be a PITA detour, i wonder if that trucking company will have to pay for a new bridge? Their insurance company will. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 5:49:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ethanol can't melt steel beams  |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 7:51:18 AM EDT
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My company hauls hazmat, we are licensed and have the equipment to haul ethanol but I don't. We haul alot of gasoline and diesel however, along with mostly lubricants and some anti freeze. We are also the first team hazmat responders to a large area of NE Ohio for tanker roll overs. The last one we responded to was at i680 & 711 by pass in Youngstown, a sharp curve roll over. It took out 3 light poles and shut down i680 for about 7 hours. They lost 4500ish gallons of gasoline. We were able to evacuate the rest out. My bill to the company, just for evacuation, consultant and storage fees was $60,000 ish dollars. The gas they lost did get in the sewer system and detonated 3 houses in down town Youngstown, along with causing a few blocks of evacuation. Plus the road damage and clean up. I believe, their over all bill was 1.3-1.5 million. Depending on self insured or what company they use (only 4 major hazmat insurance companies. We rotate yearly), they'll max out their insurance at 10-12 million. Which, will ironically probably be the fines + repair cost bid according to the state. It all depends on what sort of daily fines the company gets hit with. The bridge will certainly cost 5-8 million to repair. If not more. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Kind of makes me curious what that overpass will cost to replace. My company hauls hazmat, we are licensed and have the equipment to haul ethanol but I don't. We haul alot of gasoline and diesel however, along with mostly lubricants and some anti freeze. We are also the first team hazmat responders to a large area of NE Ohio for tanker roll overs. The last one we responded to was at i680 & 711 by pass in Youngstown, a sharp curve roll over. It took out 3 light poles and shut down i680 for about 7 hours. They lost 4500ish gallons of gasoline. We were able to evacuate the rest out. My bill to the company, just for evacuation, consultant and storage fees was $60,000 ish dollars. The gas they lost did get in the sewer system and detonated 3 houses in down town Youngstown, along with causing a few blocks of evacuation. Plus the road damage and clean up. I believe, their over all bill was 1.3-1.5 million. Depending on self insured or what company they use (only 4 major hazmat insurance companies. We rotate yearly), they'll max out their insurance at 10-12 million. Which, will ironically probably be the fines + repair cost bid according to the state. It all depends on what sort of daily fines the company gets hit with. The bridge will certainly cost 5-8 million to repair. If not more. You work for Lyden? |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 7:57:13 AM EDT
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Hoax.
Fuel cant burn steel, dood. I heard it on the internet and shit. That looks 'chopped
And billed for clean up cost? You mean bridge demo and rebuild? LOL. Hope that company has rad insurance. They're gonna need it. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 8:13:20 AM EDT
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Trucks roll over all the time on that ramp to 270 North off of I-70. Rapid slow down to a 25 mph curve that really is 25 mph or you go over. I bet at least 5 to 6 rollovers there per year. I used to live in Columbus . If anybody is to be fined it should be the state for building a ramp that has obvious issues. These guys drive for a living , that ramp must provide some unexpected rollover opportunities |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 9:16:33 AM EDT
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Fuck ethanol - most hypocrite fuel ever
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Posted: 7/2/2015 2:20:21 PM EDT
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I used to live in Columbus . If anybody is to be fined it should be the state for building a ramp that has obvious issues. These guys drive for a living , that ramp must provide some unexpected rollover opportunities Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Trucks roll over all the time on that ramp to 270 North off of I-70. Rapid slow down to a 25 mph curve that really is 25 mph or you go over. I bet at least 5 to 6 rollovers there per year. I used to live in Columbus . If anybody is to be fined it should be the state for building a ramp that has obvious issues. These guys drive for a living , that ramp must provide some unexpected rollover opportunities Actually, it was one of the new ramps (from I70WB to I270SB). Not nearly the tight turn that the one you're thinking about is. |
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