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Quoted: Horse paste is nasty. Get 1% sterile solution, the injectable kind. 1cc / 110 lbs Put it in a shot glass with some orange juice or something. Gulp it down. Skip a day Do it again. Done. I’ve been giving this to a bunch of people in Mexico and it seems to be working. View Quote @samuse does the agrimectin (which is what I have, the injectable fluid) have Closantel in it? |
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Quoted: Well the fda says it's not safe... Though three billion doses have been given to humans for parasites..... View Quote Of course they do... We have people getting it "off label" for Covid here and it's no miracle cure, but they're coming through it seemingly ok. It's also impossible to find (the human RX version) at multiple wholesalers now, so.... |
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Quoted: We had ordered some of the 12mg Ivermectin tablets for humans from Indian several weeks ago. It just came in. They look kind of nasty to me, not sure we got legit ones, but will keep them in reserve and will take immediately if I show symptoms if I cant get US made ones. View Quote To each his own, but I'd rather have American horse paste than Indian man-pills. YMMV. |
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Quoted: To each his own, but I'd rather have American horse paste than Indian man-pills. YMMV. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: We had ordered some of the 12mg Ivermectin tablets for humans from Indian several weeks ago. It just came in. They look kind of nasty to me, not sure we got legit ones, but will keep them in reserve and will take immediately if I show symptoms if I cant get US made ones. To each his own, but I'd rather have American horse paste than Indian man-pills. YMMV. |
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No offense, well maybe some offense. Your anecdotal experience is just that...your experience. Who’s to say without Ivermectin you would have just done fine. This is why “randomized controlled” trials are done. Hell I’d even take an observational study, Your experience “may” have been the same without Ivermectin.
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Quoted: No offense, well maybe some offense. Your anecdotal experience is just that...your experience. Who’s to say without Ivermectin you would have just done fine. This is why “randomized controlled” trials are done. Hell I’d even take an observational study, Your experience “may” have been the same without Ivermectin. View Quote A 10 second internet search yielded these. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(20)30464-8/fulltext https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04668469 Ivermectin apparently is known for reducing viral load of multiple viruses so it is not a surprise it would reduce covid symptoms. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7521351/ |
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adjective: anecdotal (of an account) not necessarily true or reliable, because based on personal accounts rather than facts or research. "while there was much anecdotal evidence there was little hard fact" @NVGunner Not sure if you’re addressing me, but I’ll take the bait. I agree with you to some degree; however, how do you or anyone else explain the energy boost you get (I got) a few to 8 hours after taking Ivermectin? Do the Covid folks that do not take Ivermectin get spurts of energy, multiple times after taking anything, and feel great during the middle of the disease? If you know of one, please provide a link! I did my research and made my decision. I’m not an advocate of taking wacky shit for ailments, you can keep your Colloidal Silver. Oh, and I take no offense because I give a rats butt what you think. My high school days are over guy. The information I posted about my experience is worth exactly what you paid for it. |
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Quoted: No offense, well maybe some offense. Your anecdotal experience is just that...your experience. Who’s to say without Ivermectin you would have just done fine. This is why “randomized controlled” trials are done. Hell I’d even take an observational study, Your experience “may” have been the same without Ivermectin. View Quote Steps in to thread Doesn't read thread Literally just spouts whatever comes into his brain https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/FLCCC-Ivermectin-in-the-prophylaxis-and-treatment-of-COVID-19.pdf https://ivmmeta.com/ |
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Quoted: Horse paste is nasty. Get 1% sterile solution, the injectable kind. 1cc / 110 lbs Put it in a shot glass with some orange juice or something. Gulp it down. Skip a day Do it again. Done. I've been giving this to a bunch of people in Mexico and it seems to be working. View Quote |
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Quoted: I wondered if the injectable could be taken orally. Good to know. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Horse paste is nasty. Get 1% sterile solution, the injectable kind. 1cc / 110 lbs Put it in a shot glass with some orange juice or something. Gulp it down. Skip a day Do it again. Done. I've been giving this to a bunch of people in Mexico and it seems to be working. |
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Quoted: We had ordered some of the 12mg Ivermectin tablets for humans from Indian several weeks ago. It just came in. They look kind of nasty to me, not sure we got legit ones, but will keep them in reserve and will take immediately if I show symptoms if I cant get US made ones. View Quote How do they look nasty? I went the India route as well. Just looks like a wide flat pill. I've taken it twice about a month apart. Once to test because I don't want to take something I've never had before when I'm actually sick that I might have a reaction to. Second time was when I felt like crap and had a fever that ended up being a tooth issue. No adverse effects. The pill itself dissolves really quick. Yeah, I also wish it was made in the USA too. |
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Quoted: How do they look nasty? I went the India route as well. Just looks like a wide flat pill. I've taken it twice about a month apart. Once to test because I don't want to take something I've never had before when I'm actually sick that I might have a reaction to. Second time was when I felt like crap and had a fever that ended up being a tooth issue. No adverse effects. The pill itself dissolves really quick. Yeah, I also wish it was made in the USA too. View Quote How long did the India route take? Ordered a month ago still haven't received my order. |
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Has anyone determined if the horse paste from TS has closantel in it? The label only lists the active ingredient.
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Quoted: I didn't see anything that said it was not in the paste from TS. The ingredients list only lists the active ingredient. View Quote And the only active ingredient on the list is ivermectin, right? I absolutely agree that it's important to be 1000% sure that what you are taking contains only the desirable active ingredient and nothing else. I apologize if I implied otherwise or implied that it wasn't important. It is. Closantel can be very dangerous in humans. But nobody has found any evidence whatsoever to even hint that the 1.87% horse paste might contain any active ingredient other than plain old ivermectin. |
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My wife's family has used it a number of times in Bolivia. My BIL is a doctor in Bolivia and prescribes it regularly. It works but it is based on your weight, so the dosage has to be correct.
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Quoted: My wife's family has used it a number of times in Bolivia. My BIL is a doctor and prescribes it regularly. It works but it is based on your weight, so the dosage has to be correct. View Quote Fortunately the horse paste has weight markers that translate to humans! Each notch was 50lbs on mine. |
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Quoted: Fortunately the horse paste has weight markers that translate to humans! Each notch was 50lbs on mine. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: My wife's family has used it a number of times in Bolivia. My BIL is a doctor and prescribes it regularly. It works but it is based on your weight, so the dosage has to be correct. Fortunately the horse paste has weight markers that translate to humans! Each notch was 50lbs on mine. |
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FYI, I have seen several questions about extra ingredients. I called Durvet after looking at their website yesterday. I asked if their yellow boxed 1.87 Apple paste contained any closantel. The tech that called me back said that it does NOT contain closantel as a active ingredient. It contains Ivermectin and Apple flavoring. It obviously is combined with the carrier gel paste, whatever that is. The gel has no active ingredient if that makes sense.
They were pretty responsive if you want to check for yourself. Their phone number is listed at the bottom of their website and someone actually answered the phone. I left a message yesterday for the technical department, and this am I received a call from a guy (in this country) that sounded very educated on the topic. This paste sounds to me like the best route to get pretty clean Ivermectin. Please don’t accept my research as an attempt to deliver you facts or convince you to take the TSC paste. That’s on you! You must do your own research and come to your own conclusion. I’m convinced it’s the cleanest way to get Ivermectin, minus the Apple flavoring, in the U.S. I picked up 5 more tubes on Monday at TSC. Update to OP with this ^ |
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@migrapilot Been following along the thread as it has developed, not every post/page, but most. So... the wife gets up with a headache this morning. She NEVER has a headache. I get suspicious. I go to our rental warehouses to check on things as I do everyday, I start getting a headache. As soon as I return home I get a yellow box tube out, throw a piece of light rye into the toaster and yummy. Didn't taste bad at all. Treatment #1 about 2pm est.
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Quoted: @migrapilot Been following along the thread as it has developed, not every post/page, but most. So... the wife gets up with a headache this morning. She NEVER has a headache. I get suspicious. I go to our rental warehouses to check on things as I do everyday, I start getting a headache. As soon as I return home I get a yellow box tube out, throw a piece of light rye into the toaster and yummy. Didn't taste bad at all. Treatment #1 about 2pm est. YMMV View Quote She just gutted it out. Her symptoms were not to bad. I took the paste as soon as she popped positive and so far no symptoms for me. |
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............She just gutted it out.
Yea, mine is kinda the same. Years ago when we were young her brother, when he would get sick, would just go to bed for however long it would take to get over it, sweat it out. She's kinda like that. She was a nurse for a lot of years also. |
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Quoted: @migrapilot Been following along the thread as it has developed, not every post/page, but most. So... the wife gets up with a headache this morning. She NEVER has a headache. I get suspicious. I go to our rental warehouses to check on things as I do everyday, I start getting a headache. As soon as I return home I get a yellow box tube out, throw a piece of light rye into the toaster and yummy. Didn't taste bad at all. Treatment #1 about 2pm est. YMMV View Quote @Steve307SD I’ll be very interested to learn how your journey goes. I cannot relate at this point since I felt like sheet for my first dose. If I could have dosed at the headache stage, well, that might have changed things... FWIW, I firmly believe the Ivermectin interferes with viral replication. This disease damages red blood cells. The sooner you can mitigate the damage to your red blood cells, the better off you you’ll be. |
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Quoted: How long did the India route take? Ordered a month ago still haven't received my order. View Quote I ordered back in the fall. Got it in about a 6 weeks. If you went through Reliable they should have a tracking number on your order. Paste that number in here: https://tools.usps.com/ The info on the Reliable site might say it's been delivered but that means Germany or something. They kinda suck with that. |
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Quoted: I ordered back in the fall. Got it in about a 6 weeks. If you went through Reliable they should have a tracking number on your order. Paste that number in here: https://tools.usps.com/ The info on the Reliable site might say it's been delivered but that means Germany or something. They kinda suck with that. View Quote I used Safe GP. Tracking through EMS and USPS haven't updated since it left Mumbai on Jan 2. Guess I have about 2-3 more weeks. I have paste if I end up needing it. |
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I ordered from the Chemist-who-is-open-24/7...
So, hung up in Germany, I guess. Have paste, so not worried. I should have ordered last fall. I do have chloroquine tabs, too. Not Hydroxy. |
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@migrapilot I am following the protocol listed here: https://www.evms.edu/media/evms_public/departments/internal_medicine/Marik-Covid-Protocol-Summary.pdf
Taking first dose on 1/27 and second on 1/29 is the plan, all in a preventive measure approach. Then four weeks later. My first day was uneventful. Slept really well last night, woke up feeling very energetic, short term memory seemed to be very good this morning, I struggle sometimes with this, 67yo. BL... so far so good. I am also doing the vitamins and zinc as well, follow the protocol. HOWEVER..... I would like to get the hydroxychloroquine 200mg tabs. I am weak in the knowledge of how to make that happen with out a script or how to get a script online. Somebody please school me. Thanks, |
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Tractor supply also sells Bimectin (ivermectin 1.87%) paste. It looks identical to the Durvet ivermectin paste but is sold under brand/product Bimeda/Bimectin and the box is blue colored I sent Bimeda an email asking about other potentially unwanted ingredients in the Bimectin. This is the reply from their customer service.. xxx, Thank you for your message with regards to Bimectin Paste. Bimeda's Bimectin Paste does not contain any salicylanilides, or closantel. Please let us know if we can be of further assistance. Best regards, Heather Bray | Customer Service Bimeda, Inc. One Tower Lane, Suite 2250, Oakbrook Terrace, IL 60181 T 630.928.0361 | D 630.908.4545 | F 630.928.0362 [email protected]| www.bimeda.com |
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Quoted: @migrapilot I am following the protocol listed here: https://www.evms.edu/media/evms_public/departments/internal_medicine/Marik-Covid-Protocol-Summary.pdf Taking first dose on 1/27 and second on 1/29 is the plan, all in a preventive measure approach. Then four weeks later. My first day was uneventful. Slept really well last night, woke up feeling very energetic, short term memory seemed to be very good this morning, I struggle sometimes with this, 67yo. BL... so far so good. I am also doing the vitamins and zinc as well, follow the protocol. HOWEVER..... I would like to get the hydroxychloroquine 200mg tabs. I am weak in the knowledge of how to make that happen with out a script or how to get a script online. Somebody please school me. Thanks, View Quote @Steve307SD Thanks for posting. The HCQ seems promising, better even, or at least in league with Iver. If you learn anything revealing on HCQ, please post. |
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Quoted: @migrapilot /all. Tractor supply also sells Bimectin (ivermectin 1.87%) paste. It looks identical to the Durvet ivermectin paste but is sold under brand/product Bimeda/Bimectin and the box is blue colored I sent Bimeda an email asking about other potentially unwanted ingredients in the Bimectin. This is the reply from their customer service.. xxx, Thank you for your message with regards to Bimectin Paste. Bimeda's Bimectin Paste does not contain any salicylanilides, or closantel. Please let us know if we can be of further assistance. Best regards, Heather Bray | Customer Service Bimeda, Inc. One Tower Lane, Suite 2250, Oakbrook Terrace, IL 60181 T 630.928.0361 | D 630.908.4545 | F 630.928.0362 [email protected]| www.bimeda.com View Quote @PowerShot Thanks for this information! Another source of clean Ivermectin...very good to know! |
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Quoted: @migrapilot /all. Tractor supply also sells Bimectin (ivermectin 1.87%) paste. It looks identical to the Durvet ivermectin paste but is sold under brand/product Bimeda/Bimectin and the box is blue colored I sent Bimeda an email asking about other potentially unwanted ingredients in the Bimectin. This is the reply from their customer service.. xxx, Thank you for your message with regards to Bimectin Paste. Bimeda's Bimectin Paste does not contain any salicylanilides, or closantel. Please let us know if we can be of further assistance. Best regards, Heather Bray | Customer Service Bimeda, Inc. One Tower Lane, Suite 2250, Oakbrook Terrace, IL 60181 T 630.928.0361 | D 630.908.4545 | F 630.928.0362 [email protected]| www.bimeda.com View Quote The brand at my local Tractor Supply is Farnam ivermectin 1.87% paste. But I bet they are all made in the same factory. |
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Quoted: The brand at my local Tractor Supply is Farnam ivermectin 1.87% paste. But I bet they are all made in the same factory. View Quote @compulynx, according to the search results on the NIH website, you are correct in your assumption, many are made by the same manufacturer (your example is manufactured by Med-pharmex .. Here is what I found for the brands and products... Only a few actual manufacturers of the ivermectin paste Sold under different brand labels https://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed/search.cfm?query=ivermectin&searchdb=all&labeltype=all&sortby=rel&audience=consumer&page=1&pagesize=200 1.87% ivermectin paste Manufacturer: MED-PHARMEX, INC Brands/product: Med-pharmex Covetrus - ivermectin paste AgriLabs - Agri-mectin Vetone - Vetrimec paste Farnam - IverCare 1.87% paste Manufacturer: Bimeda-MTC Brands/products: Bimeda - Bimectin ivermectin paste Durvet - ivermectin 1.87% paste Durvet - Duramectin Jeffers -ivermectin 1.87% paste Manufacturer: Merial, inc products: zimecterin 1.87% paste |
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Ivermectin 1% taken with juice, lemonade, coffee decreases its effectiveness.
Might be best bioavailability if just taken with water Orange juice decreases the oral bioavailability of ivermectin in healthy volunteers. 2003 Annual Meeting of the American Society for Clinical Pharmacology and Therapeutics. Washington (USA), 2–5 April, 2003. Finally, ivermectin (150 µg/kg) was administered to 16 individuals with water or orange juice (750 ml). Orange juice decreased AUC (15.7 ng·d·ml-1) and C max (20.7 ng·ml-1) (water: 33.8 ng·ml-1; 24.3 ng·d·ml-1), possibly because fruit juices and constituents are potent inhibitors of certain drug transporters (14). Always an option for the beer drinkers... In healthy volunteers administered ivermectin orally (150 µg/kg), plasma levels were significantly higher when coadministered with 750 ml of beer than with 750 ml of water; the plasma concentrations were significantly higher in patients who drank beer (66.3, 109, and 97.2 ng/ml at 1, 3 and 4 h, respectively) vs. those who drank water (44.0, 67.5, and 58.7 ng/ml, respectively, P?<?0.01 at each time point) (36). The Pharmacokinetics and Interactions of Ivermectin in Humans |
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Doctor Radio (Sirius XM) said take it early as there is little scientific proof of its efficacy. In vitro results scaled to human level would be toxic
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Quoted: Doctor Radio (Sirius XM) said take it early as there is little scientific proof of its efficacy. In vitro results scaled to human level would be toxic View Quote @nightstalker ???? Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance The Efficacy of Ivermectin Against COVID-19 Eastern Virginia Medical School EVMS protocol found to be highly effective in damping down the hyper-inflammatory cytokine “storm” National Institutes of Health 165 Studies found for: IVERMECTIN NIH Ivermectin studies in humans The data shows the ability of the drug Ivermectin to prevent COVID-19, to keep those with early symptoms from progressing to the hyper-inflammatory phase of the disease, and even to help critically ill patients recover. Dr. Kory testified that Ivermectin is effectively a “miracle drug” against COVID-19 and called upon the government’s medical authorities—the NIH, CDC, and FDA—to urgently review the latest data and then issue guidelines for physicians, nurse-practitioners, and physician assistants to prescribe Ivermectin for COVID-19. |
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Quoted: @nightstalker ???? Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance The Efficacy of Ivermectin Against COVID-19 Eastern Virginia Medical School EVMS protocol found to be highly effective in damping down the hyper-inflammatory cytokine “storm” National Institutes of Health 165 Studies found for: IVERMECTIN NIH Ivermectin studies in humans The data shows the ability of the drug Ivermectin to prevent COVID-19, to keep those with early symptoms from progressing to the hyper-inflammatory phase of the disease, and even to help critically ill patients recover. Dr. Kory testified that Ivermectin is effectively a “miracle drug” against COVID-19 and called upon the government’s medical authorities—the NIH, CDC, and FDA—to urgently review the latest data and then issue guidelines for physicians, nurse-practitioners, and physician assistants to prescribe Ivermectin for COVID-19. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Doctor Radio (Sirius XM) said take it early as there is little scientific proof of its efficacy. In vitro results scaled to human level would be toxic @nightstalker ???? Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance The Efficacy of Ivermectin Against COVID-19 Eastern Virginia Medical School EVMS protocol found to be highly effective in damping down the hyper-inflammatory cytokine “storm” National Institutes of Health 165 Studies found for: IVERMECTIN NIH Ivermectin studies in humans The data shows the ability of the drug Ivermectin to prevent COVID-19, to keep those with early symptoms from progressing to the hyper-inflammatory phase of the disease, and even to help critically ill patients recover. Dr. Kory testified that Ivermectin is effectively a “miracle drug” against COVID-19 and called upon the government’s medical authorities—the NIH, CDC, and FDA—to urgently review the latest data and then issue guidelines for physicians, nurse-practitioners, and physician assistants to prescribe Ivermectin for COVID-19. Hard to do in depth on radio and they did say they’d like to talk to the proponent of this. They explained briefly what the main use was and that at some level would be toxic. |
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Quoted: Your local farm store, or even online. Rural King, Tractor Supply, most county farmer's co-ops that sell vet/animal supplies. Amazon sells it but it's kinda high there. View Quote The Tractor supply store I went to had it in 2 aisles, and larger quantities were locked up in a sliding glass cabinet. The other aisle had several of the $3 tubes. |
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Quoted: The brand at my local Tractor Supply is Farnam ivermectin 1.87% paste. But I bet they are all made in the same factory. https://media.tractorsupply.com/is/image/TractorSupplyCompany/5023493?$456$ View Quote My Tractor Supply only had one brand in stock. It was Horse Health 1.87% apple flavored Ivermectin Dist. by Farnam. |
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