If you posted that all you needed was a hand full of gold to get what you need wtshtf ..would you expect to hear someones opinion as to why that would be a bad choice as your only plan? What about if you advised  your fellow forum members to run to the bank at the 1st sign of problems and pull out 50% of your money? What if you advised them to not buy easily obtained items ,because they will always be there. Would you not expect someone to question your opinion? Or would you just expect people to follow your views and idea's?



your idea that questioning someones opinion is "shitting"  on them is flawed.

It would be similar to you reading a thread where a poster says red is the best color and when 5 posters reply blue is,,you post that they are dog piling the red poster.....because its his post.......
like i said WAY above, arguing what if's and opinion is a lost war on both ends....



Facts are out there, they just take effort to look for. Something that is seriously lacking in many preppers  these days which is ironic since no one wants to be a "sheep"
 

The way I look at it, you shouldn't JUST do what ferfal, or ANYONE says.  The survival mindset, when distilled to it's purest form, is being prepared for the broadest range of bad circumstances that your budget will allow.  

SHTF can mean many things, and basic prepping can help you in many of them.  SHTF for me and my family could mean me breaking my back in a car accident and being bedridden for 6 months.  Basic preps, like extra food, valuable non-cash items such as gold/silver, a secondary (paid off) place to live, all can take the financial strain off my family and bring us through to the other side safely.  In a general economic collapse, those same items will serve the same purpose, and along with a few others items such as firearms and ammunition, you are broadening the scope of situations you can handle.

It's Argentina not Mogudishu.  

Precious metal has no value if there is no fiat money to buy it.

 

The only person I know from there is from the internet.

This is exactly the reason that the collapse was so notable.  It was nearly instant.  The banking system was not set up to react.  Everything went down in a massive chain reaction.  If it had occurred over a longer period of time, it would not have been so extreme and would have appeared only as a standard latin-american business cycle.

 

How did people do business before fiat money?  Of course they have value in the absence of fiat money.  They can be bartered and used just like any other good or service.

I've been saying this for years. Way too much significance is put on the long arm when things go bad. Folks your not parading around with your AR's, AK's and shotguns, it ain't happening.

but it aint cool to show off your #10's of food or buckets of rice or to brag that your debt free.

Ive have said it before 100 times that so many people over look the mundane day to day things that will get ya before collapse,zombie, cuban paratrooper with russian advisers....





as to long guns.

There always seems to be an abundance of pictures floating around the web of people guarding their possessions with long arms when a disaster happens.



Now some dolt goes and slaps on his complete multicamed condor gear battle rattle,snags up his carbine and goes walking down the road to patrol his "hood" when the power has only been out for 2 days has bigger issues that need to be addressed by someone with a white lab coat and note pad.

comparing stupid vs using commonsense and using it for a reason why you shouldn't is faulted.

In the book, yes precious metals were discussed.  He had a gold necklace and would snip off bits for payment.  Let me get the book.....



Damn, can't find it.  I know I didn't throw it out



 

QFT.  



And that walk down St. Martin Ave. is fantastic at the end of the working day when everyone emerges from the buildings.





 

"Toilet paper, the new world currency for the next 100 years."

+1

If it helps illustrate, my wife bought mi son a silver eagle for him yesterday, 170 Argentine pesos. He’s 8. We explained him that at this rate he would be buying a single piece of candy with 100 pesos soon. And its not the first time this has happened here. I remember paying for sandwiches with 10.000 buck bills (Plan Austral). In fact, I’ll be doing a youtube video soon about something funny regarding hyper inflation. Ah, guess you had to be there.



It is however, a very nice way to throw crap at someone he doesn’t even know without even explaining why. Not that I would care, I don’t know who this guy is.
I’ve been participating in forums for too long and I’m too old to bother with each "gentleman"  that has an ax to grind. If I replied to every nutcase online that has issues I’d never get anything done (been there, wasted enough time, wont do it again) , and I prefer to spend my time doing something productive, like writing something I know people would appreciate.  
If you think I’m full of it, that I lie, that Glocks suck or whatever I wrote that offended you, then call 911 and say “FerFAL is lying on the internet!!! I want him arrested right now!!”
Last time I was in Texas, May 2010, I met with each and every person that was close enough. In fact, I waited with a fellow Arfcomer in Collage Station to meet with other guys. Not one showed up but we had a couple beers and played arcade Buck hunting for a while.
Anyone that thinks I’m a 40 year old living in my moms basement can check with Halffast, I had the pleasure of meeting him face to face, and Hunter223 actually lives here too in Argentina. He’s a moderator here and we talked for a while over the phone. (If you’re reading this man, I have some spare time later this week so we can go grab a bite or something, even better come to TEA this Friday, its getting much better lately. Even found a couple,  “like minded individuals”… )



Then how do you explain thousands of years of gold and silver being used as currency and form of wealth before fiat currency even existed??
The richest people in the world are currently buying entire gold and silver mines, and they are not exactly known for their financial stupidity.



Ah… our most valuable “asset” ...
Meeting with a couple guys visiting Argentina on Tuesday. Listen, anyone heading this way feel free to send me an email, we’ll go get beer, coffee, whatever.


FerFAL

This thread has my eyes tearing up a bit.  

I just found a Ektachrome slide of a stray German Shepherd that probably saved me from being jumped and robbed by 4 "youths" late one night in El Calafate.  The dog seemed to know them pretty well, and he clearly wasn't their friend.  I ended up tying a rope to him so he wouldn't wander off if I fell asleep.  I regret not trying to figure out a way to take the dog home with me to the States.

Even though I had two ice axes clearly visible on one of my packs, one of the "youths" pulled out a knife when he was about 20 feet away from me.  Enter the dog.  'Nough said.

I miss that dog.

Too bad, sounds like a good dog to have.
FerFAL

Dial 911 lol...

Just when I think there's no hope for you Protus, you turn around and write a genius post like the one above......

lol



i wish the constant where are you in idaho emails would stop  I mean if you see palm tree's and no snow in Jan....i aint in idaho But it goes to show how one joke lends itself to life its own.