[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Stay safe Memphis, TN. Tyre Nichols Murder. Update: Officers charged. Video released. (Page 9 of 27)
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So this is what happens when diversity hiring goes too far. Those cops acted like a bunch of gang members. Straight up field goal kicking the poor guy, then holding him up while others take their turn beating him. On Fox now is some NYC cop basically covering for them - saying they need better trainingand tactics? WTF. TBL is out of control. Dude was scared for his life when he got pulled out of the car and probably was right to run away. That isn't resisting, that is running from a gang of murderers. I partially defend Chauvin and said he was overcharged. I definitely defended potter. I said all cops in Uvalde should spend their lives in prison. These assholes should be there too. |
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Quoted: That's absolutely clear. All the stuff before 4:11 I don't believe he's actually cuffed yet. But man he took a lot of hits. No effort at all to ground him and keep him there. |
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Quoted: They weren't even trying to cuff him, just beat him (in the pole cam video). They even let him up and one point, then held him up while he got hit. They cops in the first video were doing an extremely poor job of it, but it looked like their goal was to get him in cuffs. I think they WERE trying to cuff him but were so poorly trained and out of shape the only thing they knew how to do was use MORE force. This is the fruit of incredibly bad training. It absolutely didn't have to go like this. |
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Quoted: It took a lot of effort and a lot of time to get him cuffed. Like an AMAZING amount of effort and time. What I don't see here are hits after he's cuffed. Actually yeah, a guy runs up after he's finally cuffed and sort of kicks him. It doesn't matter when he was actually cuffed. He clearly wasn't fighting them. It appears they actually brought him to his feet and took turns beatign the fuck out of him while he stumbled and they held him up. He wasn't resisting them at all that I saw. I hope they fry. |
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There is nothing in that video that would be construed as reasonable or normal. Some times force is necessary. But they took it all the way to WorldStar Level 11. What would be fair now is for them to be judged by a jury made up of nothing but cops. Quickest verdict ever. |
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Quoted: Well, that was straight up murder. Don't understand why the city has to burn, those responsible were fired and arrested for murder. Destroy the city, make sure no decent person wants to work for the police department, just so they can end up with more stuff like this. Yep. |
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Quoted: If the cop in video #1 at 10:07 ("I hope they stomp his ass") is one of the guys who kicks him, EVEN MORE Fucked up! Quoted: Quoted: That's absolutely clear. All the stuff before 4:11 I don't believe he's actually cuffed yet. But man he took a lot of hits. No effort at all to ground him and keep him there. Yeah that guy signed his own order of conviction right there. |
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My first thoughts: Why the hell did it take so long for 5 big dudes to get that skinny little guy into cuffs? Man they sure peppered the spray the crap out of each other Once they had him up in the pole video those punches probably did him (and them) in Even once they got him cuffed he was just sitting on the ground leaning on the car for a long time with a lot of them (more than 5) just standing around) In summary, those cops sure didn't look like they knew what they were doing. |
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Quoted: Agree with you 100%. The arrest was legit... he was clearly resisting on the ground.. where it went out of damn control is when you literally start head kicking him, etc. I think headkicks like that on a downed opponent, are illegal in the damn UFC.. Quoted: Quoted: As many might know i have not been an advocate for cops, but Nichols DID RESIST, he ran and resisted again. He definitely deserved to be arrested and charged. BUT............. Those cops were completely out of control. I could not see any training be applied. The one cop punching a handcuffed man in the head probably killed Nichols. The cops do deserve to be charged. I dont believe the cops have ever been trained. How the fuck can 5 220-240 lb grown men not restrain that skinny dope head? DAMN! Agree with you 100%. The arrest was legit... he was clearly resisting on the ground.. where it went out of damn control is when you literally start head kicking him, etc. I think headkicks like that on a downed opponent, are illegal in the damn UFC.. I wouldn't even assume the arrest was legit at this point. Is there video from the two who initiated contact on the traffic stop? All I saw was video from the third cop who approached the stop. |
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Quoted: They weren't even trying to cuff him, just beat him (in the pole cam video). They even let him up and one point, then held him up while he got hit. They cops in the first video were doing an extremely poor job of it, but it looked like their goal was to get him in cuffs. To me, that’s a parallel with King There were enough cops to just swarm and cuff In both cases , they OC’d and beat. Was there a car chase? They seemed to gave him blocked with multiple cars and aggressively pulled from the car; the bodycams cop had his gun out Those cops need more cardio. That dude outran them What a fucking cluster. Releasing the video in segments, with no context or time progression, is going to incite problems |
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Quoted: I think they WERE trying to cuff him but were so poorly trained and out of shape the only thing they knew how to do was use MORE force. This is the fruit of incredibly bad training. It absolutely didn't have to go like this. BULLSHIT. I'm sick of the poor training excuses. That happens every time cops fuck up. There is no training that says don't hold up a suspect and take turns beating on him or fucking punting him while he is on the ground. IT IS NOT A FUCKING TRAINING ISSUE, STOP SAYING IT IS. It is a culture problem. |
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Quoted: The Vimeo links are working, or were. Quoted: Quoted: Any working video links? If you have a decent video downloading plugin it can grab the videos from the vimeo link ... just ... slloooooowwwwwlllyyyy. Their servers are likely hammered. |
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Quoted: There is nothing in that video that would be construed as reasonable or normal. Some times force is necessary. But they took it all the way to WorldStar Level 11. What would be fair now is for them to be judged by a jury made up of nothing but cops. Quickest verdict ever. You are correct. They would all be found not guilty. 0 for 5, plus plenty of others later on scene. It's not just one bad apple - see Uvalde. |
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Quoted: It doesn't matter when he was actually cuffed. He clearly wasn't fighting them. It appears they actually brought him to his feet and took turns beatign the fuck out of him while he stumbled and they held him up. He wasn't resisting them at all that I saw. I hope they fry. They didn't "bring" him to his feet. They allowed him to get his legs underneath himself and build a house. The same way he got away the first time. Oh he was definitely resisting. But is this excessive force? 100% Yes it is. |
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Quoted: BULLSHIT. I'm sick of the poor training excuses. That happens every time cops fuck up. There is no training that says don't hold up a suspect and take turns beating on him or fucking punting him while he is on the ground. IT IS NOT A FUCKING TRAINING ISSUE, STOP SAYING IT IS. It is a culture problem. Quoted: Quoted: I think they WERE trying to cuff him but were so poorly trained and out of shape the only thing they knew how to do was use MORE force. This is the fruit of incredibly bad training. It absolutely didn't have to go like this. BULLSHIT. I'm sick of the poor training excuses. That happens every time cops fuck up. There is no training that says don't hold up a suspect and take turns beating on him or fucking punting him while he is on the ground. IT IS NOT A FUCKING TRAINING ISSUE, STOP SAYING IT IS. It is a culture problem. Nailed it. Oh I wasn’t trained proper so I just kick the dude in the head until he dies right? |
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Quoted: The most unprofessional bunch of scumbags you'll ever see, I don't blame him one bit for running. |
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Quoted: BULLSHIT. I'm sick of the poor training excuses. That happens every time cops fuck up. There is no training that says don't hold up a suspect and take turns beating on him or fucking punting him while he is on the ground. IT IS NOT A FUCKING TRAINING ISSUE, STOP SAYING IT IS. It is a culture problem. If you think those cops are sufficiently trained in how to get control of a resisting person, you don't know what you're talking about. There's plenty of excessive force here, and there's also massive training failure. |
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Quoted: They didn't "bring" him to his feet. They allowed him to get his legs underneath himself and build a house. The same way he got away the first time. Oh he was definitely resisting. But is this excessive force? 100% Yes it is. Quoted: Quoted: It doesn't matter when he was actually cuffed. He clearly wasn't fighting them. It appears they actually brought him to his feet and took turns beatign the fuck out of him while he stumbled and they held him up. He wasn't resisting them at all that I saw. I hope they fry. They didn't "bring" him to his feet. They allowed him to get his legs underneath himself and build a house. The same way he got away the first time. Oh he was definitely resisting. But is this excessive force? 100% Yes it is. @fargo007 Apparently you watched a different video than me, lets just agree to disagree...... |
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Quoted: They didn't "bring" him to his feet. They allowed him to get his legs underneath himself and build a house. The same way he got away the first time. Oh he was definitely resisting. But is this excessive force? 100% Yes it is. What you call resisting I call fighting for his life. Every single second of every video so far is fucked. Imagine if that was you stopped in traffic like that and getting pulled out of your car after not doing anything wrong. After the first taze/mace I would fucking bolt too. |
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Quoted: In Louisville, they came close. Shot a black business owner, but I dont think he was BLM type. Quoted: Quoted: Has the national guard ever physically mixed it up with any of these BLM or Antifa idiots? In Louisville, they came close. Shot a black business owner, but I dont think he was BLM type. How that incident happened. https://lawandcrime.com/crime/fired-louisville-cop-admits-to-excessive-force-shooting-woman-with-pepper-ball-before-bbq-restaurant-owners-death/ |
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Quoted: I still hold the Chief responsible, FoxNews has someone on now praising her for standing up. Buck stops with her... A page or so ago, someone mentioned she specifically picked the applicants for the Scorpion Task Force. If that is true... she should burn as well. |