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Posted: 1/14/2021 9:31:48 AM EDT
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My 87 y/o parents, both had Covid in October, got the Moderna shot yesterday.
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Posted: 1/14/2021 9:32:21 AM EDT
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"All of the sudden" lol.
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Posted: 1/14/2021 9:33:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's NOT a vaccine. It's a new experimental biological agent Vid of Head of ER Dr explaining how dangerous this new thing is  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFntHpk1uokDoes it hurt to be so brilliant? |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 9:35:01 AM EDT
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LOL at the people that think the vaccine is going to make government let thing go back to normal.
The only that will happen is when we stop doing what the government says. |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 9:35:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you guys seriously believe there's a conspiracy at play with covid vaccines? I think taking a rushed vaccine would probably be worse than getting the chinaflu. |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 9:35:57 AM EDT
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If you are past reproductive age and 60+ or full of co morbidities then take it.
Leave the rest of humanity alone. |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 9:36:45 AM EDT
[#7]
If the vaccine works, why do vaccinated people still have to wear masks?
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Posted: 1/14/2021 9:38:17 AM EDT
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Arfcom antivaxxer: No one should coerce or force me to get vaccinated.
Also Arfcom antivaxxer: We should ridicule our 80 year old parents for wanting the vaccine due to unknown long term effects and we think it will make them sterile. |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 9:40:00 AM EDT
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I don't give a shit who gets it, I'm not. If you want the shot then more power to you and I hope you have a good outcome just don't try and push it on me. I had Covid and really didn't notice it until I got tested as it was extremely mild so I will just take my chances with reinfection.
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Posted: 1/14/2021 9:40:08 AM EDT
[#10]
Damn there is a lot of stupid advice in this thread.
This place needs a purge. 
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Posted: 1/14/2021 9:41:45 AM EDT
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OP, clearly your father moved from emotional thinking (the ARFCOM way), to critical thinking (the adult way).
Perhaps, you can learn from your father.
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Posted: 1/14/2021 9:44:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you are past reproductive age and 60+ or full of co morbidities then take it. Leave the rest of humanity alone. It's completely logical. And you get to benefit without doing a thing. |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 9:49:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Old people dont care about long term effects or sperm counts. They just want to enjoy life before they die. This |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 9:51:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If the vaccine works, why do vaccinated people still have to wear masks? When large numbers of people stop getting sick either from previous exposure or the vaccine working, then people will quit wearing masks. |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 9:51:10 AM EDT
[#15]
for someone that age it actually makes a lot of sense for them to get it
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Posted: 1/14/2021 9:52:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you guys seriously believe there's a conspiracy at play with covid vaccines? conspiracy?? china developed the bat virus to get the game rolling, gates designed the nanobots, china manufactured them, fauci designed the vaccination protocols to get everyone to have the vax, bezos deployed thousands of satellites that the chinese will use to control the 5g towers verizon and att have been building like crazy. once enough folks are vaxed, the signal will go out from the satellites and the nanobots will subvert the vaccinated people and make them love communism, homosexuality, biden, kamchatka harris, AOC, bernie, and the chinese communist party. once enough folks have been subjugated, the us government will petition the un to have america become a chinese protectorate, and the chinese military will cross the canadian border in their millions to bring oriental order to the hapless citizens of this nation. chinese communism, wet markets with diseased bats and pangolins coming to a location near you, praise allah!  |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 10:23:35 AM EDT
[#17]
My 87 yo Dad getting his "shot".
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Posted: 1/14/2021 10:30:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, the FDA requires extensive tests on all such things. That many times takes a few years before they will approve it. This thing was rushed out in less than one year. Who knows what the long term effects really are? 80 year olds don't buy green bananas. |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 10:36:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Young Arfcom says the virus only kills old people so we should open the economy up. Young Arfcom says old people shouldn't get the shot because reasons. A lot of people on arfcom are either irrational or just plain horribly self centered Get both? |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 10:39:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Perhaps, the naysayers have zero trust in the .gov , msm and big pharma. Do the .gov, msm and big pharma have any history of misleading the public? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Young Arfcom says the virus only kills old people so we should open the economy up. Young Arfcom says old people shouldn't get the shot because reasons. A lot of people on arfcom are either irrational or just plain horribly self centered Perhaps, the naysayers have zero trust in the .gov , msm and big pharma. Do the .gov, msm and big pharma have any history of misleading the public? Being skeptical of anything .gov. MSM, big pharma, or any other kind of corporation says is prudent. Yet some of the same people seem exceptionally eager to believe unverified and often unverifiable stuff that they read on the Internet or saw in a video online. |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 10:43:21 AM EDT
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Imagine the late night ads from law firms ten years from now, "Did you or a loved one receive the C19 vaccine and suffer one of these permanent debilitating side effects?" I'll pass on a C19 vaccine and I know a good handful of elderly folks who are not going to get it!
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Posted: 1/14/2021 10:45:08 AM EDT
[#22]
I’m 75 do you have another glass. Please
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Posted: 1/14/2021 10:45:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Third post nails it. Who's paying for all of those expensive ads? |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 10:47:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If the vaccine works, why do vaccinated people still have to wear masks? It's recommended, because it has not yet been proved that a person who has immunity from being vaccinated is unlikely to spread the virus around anyway. It's conceivable that a vaccinated person could get a low-level infection with no noticeable symptoms and be a walking virus factory. Or not. It just hasn't been proved. With older vaccines like the ones for polio, smallpox, measles, mumps, rubella, etc. it has been proved that a vaccinated person is unlikely to be a spreader. Also, 95% effectiveness is exceptional but that still leaves 1 person in 20 who can still get sick with COVID-19 in spite of being vaccinated. Time will tell. The masks will go away eventually just as they did with the Spanish Flu. |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 10:50:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What about the rest of the population? You guys will be crying while I seed the country because of your sterility. Willy is virile. Ask me how I know. Strong swimmers. 
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Posted: 1/14/2021 10:52:29 AM EDT
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He's 80, do you seriously think he gives a fuck about the potential side effects? When you don't have much of your life left you sure as fuck don't want to spend it confined to the house if there are other options!
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Posted: 1/14/2021 10:53:42 AM EDT
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If I was 80, I might take it depending on the status of my health. Being 80 provides for a lot more risk on its own. I’d also probably have time on my hands to research other treatments. I hope I am doing ok and reach 80. Tell your Dad you love him.
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Posted: 1/14/2021 10:54:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If the vaccine works, why do vaccinated people still have to wear masks? THIS |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 10:54:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My father, who is also 80, wants the shot asap. Same here but my pops is 78 |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 10:56:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They want their lives to get back to normal. Mine want it as well. They are ready to get back to living what's left of their lives. And if it happens to kill them, that's God's plan. That's their exact words. That’s the dumbest fucking rationale I think I’ve heard thus far regarding this horse shit. Why the fuck don’t they feel that way about the actual illness then?? |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 10:56:25 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't trust anything the gov wants me to get. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Do you guys seriously believe there's a conspiracy at play with covid vaccines? I don't trust anything the gov wants me to get. Including the last two helicopter monies? |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 10:58:24 AM EDT
[#32]
My parents got vaxxed a few days ago now. No side effects. Some of y'all have gone full schizo.
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Posted: 1/14/2021 11:00:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's recommended, because it has not yet been proved that a person who has immunity from being vaccinated is unlikely to spread the virus around anyway. It's conceivable that a vaccinated person could get a low-level infection with no noticeable symptoms and be a walking virus factory. Or not. It just hasn't been proved. With older vaccines like the ones for polio, smallpox, measles, mumps, rubella, etc. it has been proved that a vaccinated person is unlikely to be a spreader. Also, 95% effectiveness is exceptional but that still leaves 1 person in 20 who can still get sick with COVID-19 in spite of being vaccinated. Time will tell. The masks will go away eventually just as they did with the Spanish Flu. Quote HistoryQuoted: It's recommended, because it has not yet been proved that a person who has immunity from being vaccinated is unlikely to spread the virus around anyway. It's conceivable that a vaccinated person could get a low-level infection with no noticeable symptoms and be a walking virus factory. Or not. It just hasn't been proved. With older vaccines like the ones for polio, smallpox, measles, mumps, rubella, etc. it has been proved that a vaccinated person is unlikely to be a spreader. Also, 95% effectiveness is exceptional but that still leaves 1 person in 20 who can still get sick with COVID-19 in spite of being vaccinated. Time will tell. The masks will go away eventually just as they did with the Spanish Flu. https://www.history.com/topics/world-war-i/1918-flu-pandemic With no cure for the flu, many doctors prescribed medication that they felt would alleviate symptoms… including aspirin, which had been trademarked by Bayer in 1899—a patent that expired in 1917, meaning new companies were able to produce the drug during the Spanish Flu epidemic Medical professionals advised patients to take up to 30 grams per day, a dose now known to be toxic. (For comparison’s sake, the medical consensus today is that doses above four grams are unsafe.) Symptoms of aspirin poisoning include hyperventilation and pulmonary edema, or the buildup of fluid in the lungs, and it’s now believed that many of the October deaths were actually caused or hastened by aspirin poisoning. |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 11:01:44 AM EDT
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They’re scared. I’ve noticed this from some of my older relatives too. I’m personally anti covid shot because I don’t think covid is a danger to me. But if I were 80, that would change the risk calculations and I’d consider it.
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Posted: 1/14/2021 11:03:21 AM EDT
[#35]
I am going to have to take it because I am old and have always been prone to those types of viral diseases.......that said, even I am a bit skeptical.
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Posted: 1/14/2021 11:16:41 AM EDT
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Quoted: Goes from saying "There is no way in hell that I will take that commie Covid shot" to "I can't wait to get it!". What is happening to our people?... I'm 80 also and had the first Pfizer shot last Wednesday. We refer to it as "risk/reward evaluation". If it helps to understand, I'm old enough to remember this: 
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Posted: 1/14/2021 11:17:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's the dumbest fucking rationale I think I've heard thus far regarding this horse shit. Why the fuck don't they feel that way about the actual illness then?? The virus kills a lot of people their age and the vaccine does not and phase three test results are encouraging for providing protection to people over 65. |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 11:22:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No different than any other virus. But since we agree on the exploitation of the COVID virus, would you not then recognize that if the virus itself was exploited for various ends, the vaccine would then also lend itself to being exploited? After all it wouldn't be the first time fear was preyed upon for person, financial, or political gain. And anyone with 80 years of life experience should recognize that fear is far more dangerous than any virus Exactly. I'm 71 going on 72. I'm not taking the vaccine. My wife had to get it because she works in one of Wolf's dead zones. AKA a retirement home. Since she got it her legs ache. They didn't before. It's been over 2 weeks now. And why would I believe anything this govt. has to say. We've been played by experts right from the start. If I die from the Chinese flu, so be it. Fate is the hunter. At my age I could die from anything. Diseases have no favorites. The kill indiscriminately. Now they are dividing people who smoke from non smokers. The latest tactic is telling everyone that smokers will get the vaccine before other people. What a great way to have another 2 groups of people hating each other. We are being played. Wise up. Just like the maskers vs. the non maskers. More people tp hate. It's been a brilliant plan. The other day my wife gave me one of the new masks that she has to wear at the home. I had to take it of as I could hardly breath with it on. I might as well have been wearing a gag. |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 11:22:21 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: a |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 11:23:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm 80 also and had the first Pfizer shot last Wednesday. We refer to it as "risk/reward evaluation". If it helps to understand, I'm old enough to remember this: https://historyscoop.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/iron-lung-1.jpg A lot of people old enough to remember that, took their kids to get the polio vaccine who lived on to argue their parents in their 80's shouldn't get the COVID vaccine. |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 11:24:22 AM EDT
[#41]
My 93yr old FIL in nursing home flip flopped too.
Got it this Monday. He did have 2 roommates die since April. Might have helped his decision a bit. |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 11:28:16 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/14/2021 11:33:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My pulmonologist told me to get the shot.....i'm still thinking about it. Well, if you have a pulmonologist you should probably get the shot. |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 11:37:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My 87 y/o parents, both had Covid in October, got the Moderna shot yesterday. Let me quote myself, update. Dad has temp of 102° this morning. Fuck covid and the shot! |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 11:41:45 AM EDT
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wait till they start zombie like attacks on those who refuse to go along with the programming...
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Posted: 1/14/2021 11:48:50 AM EDT
[#46]
Remember...
Most people in GD have advance degrees in FB and Reddit... as opposed to those goofy scientist making a vaccine with countless hours of university study
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Posted: 1/14/2021 11:52:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Let me quote myself, update. Dad has temp of 102° this morning. Fuck covid and the shot! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: My 87 y/o parents, both had Covid in October, got the Moderna shot yesterday. Let me quote myself, update. Dad has temp of 102° this morning. Fuck covid and the shot! Sounds like he has the flu. |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 12:00:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: THIS Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If the vaccine works, why do vaccinated people still have to wear masks? THIS Because business owners can't tell by looking at you if you've had the shot??? |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 1:53:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 90% of polio infected people had no symptoms. My FiL was one of the 10% 1. Polio never killed more than a few thousand people in a year in the U.S., and maybe 20k a year had any long lasting effects. COVID, even if you completely don't trust the data, is worse. Back in May, someone here in GD said they'd believe 10% of the U.S. death toll. That would be close to 40k right now. 2. We overreacted to polio big time, and rushed out a very unsafe vaccine. Hopefully we've learned from that. |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 2:34:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Let me quote myself, update. Dad has temp of 102° this morning. Fuck covid and the shot! Prayers! |
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