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Posted: 3/28/2012 8:48:49 AM EDT
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I like Mustangs.
There's no fucking way I'm paying 6 figures for one, though 
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Posted: 3/28/2012 8:54:35 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/28/2012 8:56:01 AM EDT
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You have to admit. The car's front end makes it look happy.
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Posted: 3/28/2012 9:03:54 AM EDT
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This has to be especially embarrassing for Carroll Shelby. He has an impeccable record of being on the up and up. Roger that. He's one of the best real men in the auto business. Staying tuned for epic ass chewing he'll probably be giving the guy who authorized that crap. |
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Posted: 3/28/2012 9:07:15 AM EDT
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Ford has always been a fraud in the performance department. Why is this news?
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Posted: 3/28/2012 9:07:33 AM EDT
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I saw Road and Track's video of that supposedly 1,000 HP Shelby going around the track...it didn't look like a 1,000 HP car. They also neglected to show anything like 1/4 mile times, etc...which makes me wonder. If they're really putting 1,000 HP out of that thing (at the flywheel or rear wheels...doesn't matter which, really) and it's really fast as a result, you'd think they'd put that sucker on a drag strip and show it monstering the 1/4 mile with some insane time. Or they'd show it ripping the tires off the rim driving around the track. Can a Mustang that isn't a dedicated drag car even handle 1,000 HP in any useful way? Somehow I'm thinking that this is just another absurd entry in an absurd run to get a higher HP figure out there because you're hoping to sell to suckers. Shelby Inc seems to be jumping the shark. Maybe that's just my perception....but 80 grand for a Super Snake is a tad much. i wouldn't think a 1000hp mustang would be a very fun drive around town on a saturday night. |
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Posted: 3/28/2012 9:10:44 AM EDT
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I'm surprised this hasn't made it to photoshop disasters yet.
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Posted: 3/28/2012 9:14:31 AM EDT
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The marketing guy watched The Fast and the Stupidest too many times.
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Posted: 3/28/2012 9:25:32 AM EDT
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A limited production of Shelby 1000s will be built, each numbered and documented. The post-title package for the Shelby 1000 starts at $149,995, not including the base GT500. A completed Shelby 1000 is expected to be approximately $200,000. http://www.automedia.com/Blog/ImageGallery/3554572f-defc-4e19-98e8-3f0ab1e1cf45/Large/Shelby-1000-GT500-1.jpeg Call me crazy, but if I had $200K to blow on a car, it's not gonna be a mustang, even if it has Shelby's name on it. If I had 200K to blow on a car... I'd have gotten this one And yes... I WOULD drive it. .... while blasting this from the speakers. (note who played John Adams and you'll see why I picked it). 
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Posted: 3/28/2012 9:28:26 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/28/2012 9:36:46 AM EDT
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This has to be especially embarrassing for Carroll Shelby. He has an impeccable record of being on the up and up. Roger that. He's one of the best real men in the auto business. Staying tuned for epic ass chewing he'll probably be giving the guy who authorized that crap. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Seriously, are you going to tell us how he and Henessey are just misunderstood? The man has described himself as a snake-oil salesman, and has revealed how he always lied to Ford about how much his projects would cost, because "once he got the contract, they'd pay no matter what". And, of course, the Series 1 was totally on the up-and-up, he never sued everyone he could over names like "Cobra" which he had sold the rights too, and the charity's he was connected to never were investigated for financial irregularities.
Edit: Or screwing AC over hugely, trying to sue a variety of companies who had the legal right to build continuation and clone Cobras, raping Toyota on the 2000GT, and claiming credit for something he didn't even invent? |
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Posted: 3/28/2012 9:44:09 AM EDT
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Quoted: Ford has always been a fraud in the performance department. Why is this news?  |
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Posted: 3/28/2012 9:51:21 AM EDT
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All of the super models do it... They use photoshop to make themselves look meaner? not meaner, just leaner. |
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Posted: 3/28/2012 9:52:35 AM EDT
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This has to be especially embarrassing for Carroll Shelby. He has an impeccable record of being on the up and up. Roger that. He's one of the best real men in the auto business. Staying tuned for epic ass chewing he'll probably be giving the guy who authorized that crap. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Seriously, are you going to tell us how he and Henessey are just misunderstood? The man has described himself as a snake-oil salesman, and has revealed how he always lied to Ford about how much his projects would cost, because "once he got the contract, they'd pay no matter what". And, of course, the Series 1 was totally on the up-and-up, he never sued everyone he could over names like "Cobra" which he had sold the rights too, and the charity's he was connected to never were investigated for financial irregularities.
Edit: Or screwing AC over hugely, trying to sue a variety of companies who had the legal right to build continuation and clone Cobras, raping Toyota on the 2000GT, and claiming credit for something he didn't even invent? I beg your pardon. I am not an industry insider. I was basing my opinion on how people I know who have dealt with him and like him describe him. I guess I didn't have all the facts. I'll look more into it. |
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Posted: 3/28/2012 9:54:30 AM EDT
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I saw Road and Track's video of that supposedly 1,000 HP Shelby going around the track...it didn't look like a 1,000 HP car. They also neglected to show anything like 1/4 mile times, etc...which makes me wonder. If they're really putting 1,000 HP out of that thing (at the flywheel or rear wheels...doesn't matter which, really) and it's really fast as a result, you'd think they'd put that sucker on a drag strip and show it monstering the 1/4 mile with some insane time. Or they'd show it ripping the tires off the rim driving around the track. Can a Mustang that isn't a dedicated drag car even handle 1,000 HP in any useful way? Somehow I'm thinking that this is just another absurd entry in an absurd run to get a higher HP figure out there because you're hoping to sell to suckers. Shelby Inc seems to be jumping the shark. Maybe that's just my perception....but 80 grand for a Super Snake is a tad much. Cars like that spend most of the quarter mile just trying to get traction while they get eaten alive by a 4000lb GT-R with AWD..Make the strip 1/2 mile along and maybe this Mustang can stretch its legs |
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Posted: 3/28/2012 9:55:02 AM EDT
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Shelby Inc seems to be jumping the shark. It did that decades ago: http://www.themotoringenthusiastjournal.com/photo_gallery/images/hot%20hatch/86GLHS.jpg There have been Omni's rolling around the street races that were really fast
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Posted: 3/28/2012 9:56:45 AM EDT
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Quoted: except that block lasts 1-2 passes at tht power levelQuoted: Quoted: Maybe it's 1000hp at 9,500rpm? If so, they're getting close to the level of most "turbo hondas".......in japan. ...but can the motor take a whole lot of that without exploding? That's the thing about all those "turbo hondas"...they blow those suckers up pretty regularly. Strapping 1,000 HP worth of boost to a motor that's originally designed to handle 500 at the most doesn't always work out so good. Yes, if you build it properly. Chevrolets' LSX is rated to 2500hp.  |
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Posted: 3/28/2012 10:00:03 AM EDT
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This has to be especially embarrassing for Carroll Shelby. He has an impeccable record of being on the up and up. Roger that. He's one of the best real men in the auto business. Staying tuned for epic ass chewing he'll probably be giving the guy who authorized that crap. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Seriously, are you going to tell us how he and Henessey are just misunderstood? The man has described himself as a snake-oil salesman, and has revealed how he always lied to Ford about how much his projects would cost, because "once he got the contract, they'd pay no matter what". And, of course, the Series 1 was totally on the up-and-up, he never sued everyone he could over names like "Cobra" which he had sold the rights too, and the charity's he was connected to never were investigated for financial irregularities.
Edit: Or screwing AC over hugely, trying to sue a variety of companies who had the legal right to build continuation and clone Cobras, raping Toyota on the 2000GT, and claiming credit for something he didn't even invent? I beg your pardon. I am not an industry insider. I was basing my opinion on how people I know who have dealt with him and like him describe him. I guess I didn't have all the facts. I'll look more into it. He's an interesting character, to say the least, and one responsible for a lot of the positive perception of Ford as performance cars in Europe, and to some degree here. Ford obviously thought he was worth the trouble, as did Chrysler, but as he has gotten older, his projects have gotten more and more questionable. There are some excellent books on Shelby-American, I'd recommend this one, as it was written before Shelby went sue-happy, and has some interesting interviews and pictures. http://www.amazon.com/Shelbys-Wildlife-Cobras-Mustangs-Dodges/dp/0879382570/ref=sr_1_12?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1332957855&sr=1-12 |
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Posted: 3/28/2012 10:01:11 AM EDT
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Shelby Inc seems to be jumping the shark. It did that decades ago: http://www.themotoringenthusiastjournal.com/photo_gallery/images/hot%20hatch/86GLHS.jpg lol...I'd love to have one of those to play with. |
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Posted: 3/28/2012 10:02:11 AM EDT
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Ford has always been a fraud in the performance department. Why is this news? This is not Ford...it is Shelby |
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Posted: 3/29/2012 7:10:51 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: A limited production of Shelby 1000s will be built, each numbered and documented. The post-title package for the Shelby 1000 starts at $149,995, not including the base GT500. A completed Shelby 1000 is expected to be approximately $200,000. http://www.automedia.com/Blog/ImageGallery/3554572f-defc-4e19-98e8-3f0ab1e1cf45/Large/Shelby-1000-GT500-1.jpeg Call me crazy, but if I had $200K to blow on a car, it's not gonna be a mustang, even if it has Shelby's name on it. You're right. Anyone who buys one of these most likely has millions of dollars to spend on cars. They are just getting this one because it's a new addition to the collection. I mean, how many damn Ferraris can one collector own? I'd buy a $200K Mustang just to say I did it. To each there own and all, but I've just never considered the Mustang to be that sort of collectable vehicle. ETA: Even if I had 10 million to blow on cars, I would not be buying a $200K mustang. |
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Posted: 3/29/2012 7:25:17 AM EDT
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$200k on a Mustang? GTFO
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Posted: 3/29/2012 7:58:59 AM EDT
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Quoted:except that block lasts 1-2 passes at tht power level
Stock block, yes. LSX block, no LSX won't last forever at that power level but neither will the rotating assembly/valvetrain used to get out there into outlaw 10.5 land. Only thing that can hang in there for any length of time would be the aluminum hemi stuff from the alcohol classes. |
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Posted: 3/29/2012 8:04:59 AM EDT
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This has to be especially embarrassing for Carroll Shelby. He has an impeccable record of being on the up and up. I don't know much about him except it seems I remember he stuck it to Enzo a little way back when, so I'm asking because I don't know the answer: were you being sarcastic? Jane Actually, Enzo pissed off Henry Ford II (Hank The Deuce) and he used Shelby and then later, John Wyer to beat them at their own game. Ford wanted to buy Ferrari, but wanted to retain some control over their money and Ferrari said "No way, we must remain totally independent".. Ford said "Goodbye", and the rest is history. |
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Posted: 3/29/2012 11:13:23 AM EDT
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A limited production of Shelby 1000s will be built, each numbered and documented. The post-title package for the Shelby 1000 starts at $149,995, not including the base GT500. A completed Shelby 1000 is expected to be approximately $200,000. http://www.automedia.com/Blog/ImageGallery/3554572f-defc-4e19-98e8-3f0ab1e1cf45/Large/Shelby-1000-GT500-1.jpeg Call me crazy, but if I had $200K to blow on a car, it's not gonna be a mustang, even if it has Shelby's name on it. You're right. Anyone who buys one of these most likely has millions of dollars to spend on cars. They are just getting this one because it's a new addition to the collection. I mean, how many damn Ferraris can one collector own? I'd buy a $200K Mustang just to say I did it. To each there own and all, but I've just never considered the Mustang to be that sort of collectable vehicle. ETA: Even if I had 10 million to blow on cars, I would not be buying a $200K mustang. I don't think they are traditionally considered collectible...but this is a limited run. Did they say how many were going to be made? |
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Posted: 3/29/2012 11:20:23 AM EDT
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I hope Top Gear (UK) gets ahold of one...and then talk about how shitty it is (price-wise) compared to an Italian supercar.
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Posted: 3/29/2012 11:27:48 AM EDT
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This has to be especially embarrassing for Carroll Shelby. He has an impeccable record of being on the up and up. I don't know much about him except it seems I remember he stuck it to Enzo a little way back when, so I'm asking because I don't know the answer: were you being sarcastic? Actually, Enzo pissed off Henry Ford II (Hank The Deuce) and he used Shelby and then later, John Wyer to beat them at their own game. Ford wanted to buy Ferrari, but wanted to retain some control over their money and Ferrari said "No way, we must remain totally independent".. Ford said "Goodbye", and the rest is history. Thanks, I'd forgotten the details, if indeed I ever knew them.
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Posted: 3/29/2012 11:43:36 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Shelby Inc seems to be jumping the shark. It did that decades ago: http://www.themotoringenthusiastjournal.com/photo_gallery/images/hot%20hatch/86GLHS.jpg That was one of his favorite cars 
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Posted: 3/29/2012 11:50:26 AM EDT
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Quoted: Ford has always been a fraud in the performance department. Why is this news? This has nothing to do with Ford. |
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Posted: 3/29/2012 12:10:49 PM EDT
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This has to be especially embarrassing for Carroll Shelby. He has an impeccable record of being on the up and up. I don't know much about him except it seems I remember he stuck it to Enzo a little way back when, so I'm asking because I don't know the answer: were you being sarcastic? Jane lol, yes. He has been involved with several "scams" over the years. The worst one I can think of was when he "found' several dozen or so original cobra chassis in his shop in the 1990s... Supposedly he had built them in the 1960s and forgot about them. Anyway he sold them as original cobras for hundreds of thousands of dollars. Turns out that he had them made up just a year or so before and set them out in the rain to rust them. The stuff he does with his heart foundation is great, but I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him. |
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Posted: 3/29/2012 12:16:03 PM EDT
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i don't care if they shopped it or not. a thousand HP mustang is a thousand HP mustang. Fastest car in the trailer park
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Posted: 3/29/2012 12:19:42 PM EDT
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Why would you want to make people think putting your foot down would raise the front of the car off the ground and remove your ability to steer? That is not something I'd think would be a selling point...
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Posted: 3/29/2012 12:23:16 PM EDT
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It is not a 1000hp Mustang. It's a 1000hp smoke machine.
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Posted: 3/29/2012 12:29:15 PM EDT
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I hope Top Gear (UK) gets ahold of one...and then talk about how shitty it is (price-wise) compared to an Italian supercar. And they would be right. |
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Posted: 3/29/2012 12:30:32 PM EDT
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Quoted: Why would you want to make people think putting your foot down would raise the front of the car off the ground and remove your ability to steer? That is not something I'd think would be a selling point... At the drags, its a sign of power, at the stop light, its a sign of doucheness. |
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Posted: 3/29/2012 12:33:22 PM EDT
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they My dog could have done a better job  You have a better dog than mine. I came home and he was trying to correct the white balance on some scans and royally screwing up. "Bad doggie!" I said. "No biscuit for you!" Good call. My dog keeps talking about "gray balance" and I'm all "Silly dog, you can't correct colors, you are color blind" and she's all "GO KILL PEOPLE" and I'm all "That's not funny, stop saying that!" |
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Posted: 3/29/2012 12:40:08 PM EDT
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Motor will be fine if it's done right. I've helped get numbers like that out of mod motors in the past with good and lasting results. Thats because the 4v motors (especially the 03/04 cobra motors) are built like tanks. The heads flow like a champ, bottom end is solid, and hellion already made a turbo kit back in 05/06 to put a turbo on a stock 03/04 cobra and make 1000hp Stock cobra engines were strong, but not that strong. Most stock cobra internals can handle 600-650 hp semi reliably. Many people thought that because they have forged internals they can run absurd amounts of boost, and most of those 800rwhp cobras blew the engine within 2000 miles of use. Not all forged internals are the same quality, if you want a 1000 rwhp cobra, prepare to open your wallet and your engine. My spoiled friend found that out the hard way. He parents bought him the car, he bought the kenne bell and paid for it to be tuned/dyno'd. A few thousand miles later, his parents were paying for a new engine. |
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Posted: 3/29/2012 12:44:14 PM EDT
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except that block lasts 1-2 passes at tht power level
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Maybe it's 1000hp at 9,500rpm? If so, they're getting close to the level of most "turbo hondas".......in japan. ...but can the motor take a whole lot of that without exploding? That's the thing about all those "turbo hondas"...they blow those suckers up pretty regularly. Strapping 1,000 HP worth of boost to a motor that's originally designed to handle 500 at the most doesn't always work out so good. Yes, if you build it properly. Chevrolets' LSX is rated to 2500hp. LSx blocks are stupidly strong. They can handle almost all the power you can throw at them. |
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Posted: 3/29/2012 12:49:09 PM EDT
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That would only be funnier if it was a front wheel drive.
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Posted: 3/29/2012 12:56:36 PM EDT
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They should have at least made it look cool.
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Posted: 3/29/2012 1:02:02 PM EDT
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backwards bullets in the mag? |
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Posted: 3/29/2012 8:05:27 PM EDT
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Meh.....
Build a M809 that can burn donuts in a IHOP parking lot and I'll be interested. |
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Posted: 3/29/2012 8:21:17 PM EDT
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I painted one of these at work yesterday. THe stripes were a bitch. Motor sounds nice though. I think it has 700 + horsepower or something.
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Posted: 3/29/2012 8:33:27 PM EDT
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You have to be fucking stupid to buy into their game
You can get a new Gt500 and just do a bit of add ons for say ummm 10K more and be right around 1000HP anyway
The factory power packages past the Cobra have always been stupid And yeah that car wont do shit without alot of other stuff done, anything over 500Hp is pretty much useless in a street car. and just to add to this, If I spend $200K on a Mustang, it better cover the 1/4 in about 7seconds and at over 200MPH and win me $5000 a weekend |
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Posted: 3/29/2012 8:41:46 PM EDT
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Very true. My daily is just over 500 and it's kind of crazy to drive, if it rains forget about it! Paying 200k for a Ford is the equivalent to buying 1000hp swamp land in Florida.
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You have to be fucking stupid to buy into their game You can get a new Gt500 and just do a bit of add ons for say ummm 10K more and be right around 1000HP anyway
The factory power packages past the Cobra have always been stupid And yeah that car wont do shit without alot of other stuff done, anything over 500Hp is pretty much useless in a street car. |
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Posted: 3/29/2012 9:05:23 PM EDT
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Shelby Inc seems to be jumping the shark. It did that decades ago: http://www.themotoringenthusiastjournal.com/photo_gallery/images/hot%20hatch/86GLHS.jpg That was a damn fast car in it's day. Check out the December '86 issue of Hot Rod magazine. It spanked a not stock GT350 on a track. The standard non turbo GLH Omni would run right with an Iroc Camaro in '84 and the turbo and intercooled turbos were much faster. |
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Posted: 3/29/2012 10:08:43 PM EDT
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I drive a 500 HP car around on the weekends, and I don't see how 1,000 HP is street-able, or even able to get to the ground on a car that is made to be driven for any amount of time or distance. Unless it is a gutless turd down low.
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Posted: 3/29/2012 10:11:30 PM EDT
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I drive a 500 HP car around on the weekends, and I don't see how 1,000 HP is street-able, or even able to get to the ground on a car that is made to be driven for any amount of time or distance. Unless it is a gutless turd down low. +1 650hp max |
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Posted: 3/29/2012 10:15:12 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Shelby Inc seems to be jumping the shark. It did that decades ago: http://www.themotoringenthusiastjournal.com/photo_gallery/images/hot%20hatch/86GLHS.jpg Fuck you, a GLH-S was my first car and it was an absolute blast. |
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Posted: 3/29/2012 11:09:57 PM EDT
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Maybe it's 1000hp at 9,500rpm? If so, they're getting close to the level of most "turbo hondas".......in japan. ...but can the motor take a whole lot of that without exploding? That's the thing about all those "turbo hondas"...they blow those suckers up pretty regularly. Strapping 1,000 HP worth of boost to a motor that's originally designed to handle 500 at the most doesn't always work out so good. Yes, if you build it properly. Chevrolets' LSX is rated to 2500hp. LSx blocks are stupidly strong. They can handle almost all the power you can throw at them. Well, if it's pumpin out 2500 hp, you best not be standin too close to it. 
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