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Link Posted: 2/2/2016 11:36:33 AM EDT
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Doesn't the logic of this completely go against the old logic for busing?
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Logic?  You mean like the electronic cigarette?
Link Posted: 2/2/2016 11:36:40 AM EDT
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water fountains too??
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This is a great idea!
Amazed that this has never been done before...
Link Posted: 2/2/2016 11:36:55 AM EDT
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Racism will never die.



Apparently no one wants it to.



Without racism, you have personal accountability.



Growing up's tough.
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there's a lot of money to be made on racism.

 
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hoping that black males will graduate at a higher rate if they spend more time with one another





Just like the ‘hood.
Link Posted: 2/2/2016 11:44:03 AM EDT
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Can someone define "white person" and "black person" for me?  Where is the line.  

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What ever definition that properly keeps the Irish and Italians from being considered "white" works for me.

Link Posted: 2/2/2016 11:44:06 AM EDT
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Don’t they already have highly segregated “dorms” throughout the country?  The are called penitentiaries.  How is that working out?
Link Posted: 2/2/2016 11:47:55 AM EDT
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Place holder while I respond.

You seem to have inferred something that wasn't or at least was not intended to be implied.  The nation is predominantly white.  Most professions employ predominantly white people.  It's best for a black person or any minority in the US to simply accept this. Come across a person (of any race) that is explicitly racist or otherwise discriminatory? I mean hey, we're obviously far from being a "post-racial" society...fuck them, keep pushing. Implicitly racist? Fuck them, keep pushing. It's certainly true that a person will generally perform better in an environment in which they're comfortable, but being surrounded by white people and expected to perform just as well shouldn't make you uncomfortable.  That is currently the norm and will be for at least 3-5 more decades.    
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As a black man, this is dumb as rocks.  We are born into a predominantly white nation, which is run by predominantly white people (and 50% of FBHO).  It's best that you learn to work your way through and hopefully excel in this still very white nation.  Just as asking for a "white history" month I s completely retarded, so is asking for a dorm for black males.  This shit better be some form of structured study.  Consider me "triggered."



So what is this power that is a barrier for you, that you have to "learn to work your way through and hopefully excel in this still very white nation" - I'm generally curious.
"Power" comes from jobs, right? Someone who doesn't work, doesn't really affect shit. If you wanted an entire workforce that was 50/50 (ignoring the other minorities), you would have a country of ~150 million white people unemployed, and that would be assuming that 100% of blacks were employed. Would that make it a non-white nation? Sounds terrific for everyone...
If you are going to call the US a white nation, you need to acknowledge that it is simply because of population numbers.
So yeah, it's a "white nation" if you want that to be the lens you look at things through.
But that's also why the good intentions crowd has put laws into place that specifically help anyone who isn't white (in the areas that matter most and can be affected by law, such as education and occupation).
These laws have made a lot of people weaker, that's just what lower standards and expectations do.
I agree with you, this type of shit (in the OP) is in the same vein of good intentions and will not actually make them stronger.

PS
- I don't want a white history month, I just want American history. Not selective history, just history.



Place holder while I respond.

You seem to have inferred something that wasn't or at least was not intended to be implied.  The nation is predominantly white.  Most professions employ predominantly white people.  It's best for a black person or any minority in the US to simply accept this. Come across a person (of any race) that is explicitly racist or otherwise discriminatory? I mean hey, we're obviously far from being a "post-racial" society...fuck them, keep pushing. Implicitly racist? Fuck them, keep pushing. It's certainly true that a person will generally perform better in an environment in which they're comfortable, but being surrounded by white people and expected to perform just as well shouldn't make you uncomfortable.  That is currently the norm and will be for at least 3-5 more decades.    


Gotcha. I'm on your page now. I apologize for my misunderstanding of what you were saying, some of those particular words must be triggers.
I'm genuinely curious how you feel about some of these things (I know the kind of guy (you) who can hang around here isn't reflective of the average guy on the street, but still - you have a unique perspective on things)

Do you feel that since most professions employ predominately white people, that is a disadvantage or hindrance for blacks?
Do you think a business, located in a town with 90% whites should be forced to employ 50% minorities, or should it reflect it's local community demographics, or should it simply be burdened with evidencing that it's hiring process is based solely on skills?
Can you empathize with whites who are not afforded scholarships and denied jobs because of their race?

I've been called racial slurs by blacks, entirely unprovoked at that. I have never called anyone a racial slur. For me to be harassed with racially charged comments, I would receive no sympathy from a lot of people these days simply because... I can not be a victim because I'm white. There is even a notable portion of society now that thinks I deserve that treatment, merely by affiliation to my skin color - my "privilege." Do you think there is any legitimacy in that?

Thanks man
Link Posted: 2/2/2016 11:48:47 AM EDT
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But I thought segregation was only done by us evil white racist southerners, this is in the heart of Yankeeland.  Is the north now the new south?
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Yeah.

Sounds like the return of Jim Crow.


But I thought segregation was only done by us evil white racist southerners, this is in the heart of Yankeeland.  Is the north now the new south?


It has always been what it accuses others of. The provincialism and chauvinism of
the Oberland's informative class knows no bounds
Link Posted: 2/2/2016 11:58:21 AM EDT
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And the wheels on the bus go round and round.

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Until the rims are repossessed.
Link Posted: 2/2/2016 12:36:55 PM EDT
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Until the rims are repossessed.
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And the wheels on the bus go round and round.


Until the rims are repossessed.


You win the interwebs for the rest of the day.  Rule it wisely.  
Link Posted: 2/2/2016 2:54:02 PM EDT
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Gotcha. I'm on your page now. I apologize for my misunderstanding of what you were saying, some of those particular words must be triggers.
I'm genuinely curious how you feel about some of these things (I know the kind of guy (you) who can hang around here isn't reflective of the average guy on the street, but still - you have a unique perspective on things)

Do you feel that since most professions employ predominately white people, that is a disadvantage or hindrance for blacks?  Generally speaking, no. The exception being that there can and almost certainly are instances in which a form of confirmation bias creeps in. Similar to the thought processes behind the way some venture capitalists look for the next start-up to invest in....or when I see a white barber...that isn't on a military base.
Do you think a business, located in a town with 90% whites should be forced to employ 50% minorities, or should it reflect it's local community demographics, or should it simply be burdened with evidencing that it's hiring process is based solely on skills?  The hiring process should simply be based on skill or perceived skill as indicated by resume; however assuming the candidate pool is representative of the community, the employee demographics should approach the relative diversity of the community.
Can you empathize with whites who are not afforded scholarships and denied jobs because of their race? If they have reasonable proof of that being the case.  I know it happens, and I don't agree with it.  At the same time, I question how frequently it does actually happen.  I suspect it's not as rampant as some would think, but more so than it should be.  Same goes for the other way around.

I've been called racial slurs by blacks, entirely unprovoked at that. I have never called anyone a racial slur. For me to be harassed with racially charged comments, I would receive no sympathy from a lot of people these days simply because... I can not be a victim because I'm white. There is even a notable portion of society now that thinks I deserve that treatment, merely by affiliation to my skin color - my "privilege." Do you think there is any legitimacy in that?

This one I would say is/ can be a bit more complicated to answer.  I don't know you or your background/family history.  What I can say...

I don't subscribe to the belief that blacks can't be racist.  

I don't subscribe to the belief that white people should feel guilty for being white.

No human should ultimately be judged by their race.  Race is no more than our inherently human (not necessarily humane) way of separating ourselves. Race is neither deserving of pride nor of shame. However given the unique history of this nation, it cannot be argued that there are lasting effects of the undoubted racism of our past. Insert 1 million word essay here...



Thanks man
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Link Posted: 2/2/2016 7:42:46 PM EDT
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Gotcha. I'm on your page now. I apologize for my misunderstanding of what you were saying, some of those particular words must be triggers.
I'm genuinely curious how you feel about some of these things (I know the kind of guy (you) who can hang around here isn't reflective of the average guy on the street, but still - you have a unique perspective on things)

Do you feel that since most professions employ predominately white people, that is a disadvantage or hindrance for blacks?  Generally speaking, no. The exception being that there can and almost certainly are instances in which a form of confirmation bias creeps in. Similar to the thought processes behind the way some venture capitalists look for the next start-up to invest in....or when I see a white barber...that isn't on a military base.
Do you think a business, located in a town with 90% whites should be forced to employ 50% minorities, or should it reflect it's local community demographics, or should it simply be burdened with evidencing that it's hiring process is based solely on skills?  The hiring process should simply be based on skill or perceived skill as indicated by resume; however assuming the candidate pool is representative of the community, the employee demographics should approach the relative diversity of the community.
Can you empathize with whites who are not afforded scholarships and denied jobs because of their race? If they have reasonable proof of that being the case.  I know it happens, and I don't agree with it.  At the same time, I question how frequently it does actually happen.  I suspect it's not as rampant as some would think, but more so than it should be.  Same goes for the other way around.

I've been called racial slurs by blacks, entirely unprovoked at that. I have never called anyone a racial slur. For me to be harassed with racially charged comments, I would receive no sympathy from a lot of people these days simply because... I can not be a victim because I'm white. There is even a notable portion of society now that thinks I deserve that treatment, merely by affiliation to my skin color - my "privilege." Do you think there is any legitimacy in that?

This one I would say is/ can be a bit more complicated to answer.  I don't know you or your background/family history.  What I can say...

I don't subscribe to the belief that blacks can't be racist.  

I don't subscribe to the belief that white people should feel guilty for being white.

No human should ultimately be judged by their race.  Race is no more than our inherently human (not necessarily humane) way of separating ourselves. Race is neither deserving of pride nor of shame. However given the unique history of this nation, it cannot be argued that there are lasting effects of the undoubted racism of our past. Insert 1 million word essay here...



Thanks man



thanks for taking the time
and for your responses...
Link Posted: 2/2/2016 7:45:09 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/2/2016 7:52:27 PM EDT
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Will they have separate drinking fountains?
Link Posted: 2/2/2016 8:05:51 PM EDT
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Any benefit that is racially based I challenge any system to deny to me. If I can self identify I will self identify.
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This.

 



I'm a Syrian-Mexican Transgender Lesbian.




Bitches.
Link Posted: 2/2/2016 8:08:19 PM EDT
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Hope they post "Rape Free Zone" signs all around the building.  
Link Posted: 2/2/2016 8:11:18 PM EDT
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Well if they also have an option for black only teachers and black only classes, then shit, they won't have to look at whitey hardly at all.
Link Posted: 2/2/2016 8:13:53 PM EDT
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You just cannot make this shit up.
Wish I was insanely rich so I could donate money so a "Whites Only" dorm could be constructed.
I 'd just love to see the hate.
Link Posted: 2/2/2016 8:17:17 PM EDT
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Well if they also have an option for black only teachers and black only classes, then shit, they won't have to look at whitey hardly at all.
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All black graduations too, but the attendance will be very low.

 
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Segregated dorms for males 'who identify as Black' coming to UConn

The University of Connecticut is hoping that black males will graduate at a higher rate if they spend more time with one another, and is building a new residence hall to facilitate just that.

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"It is a space for African American men to, one, come together, and validate their experiences that they may have on campus," he explained. "Number two, it's also a space where they can have conversation and also talk with individuals who come from the same background who share the same experience."
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Sounds like a space to foster/nurture racism to me.

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what a load of a crock of shit.the liberal mind is unstable.
Link Posted: 2/2/2016 8:20:31 PM EDT
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All black graduations too, but the attendance will be very low.  
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Well if they also have an option for black only teachers and black only classes, then shit, they won't have to look at whitey hardly at all.
All black graduations too, but the attendance will be very low.  

Just like the number of their fathers in attendance at graduation...very low
Link Posted: 2/2/2016 9:09:35 PM EDT
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It's racist to oppose segregation.
Link Posted: 2/2/2016 9:18:47 PM EDT
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They should all self-identify as retarded
Link Posted: 2/2/2016 9:19:11 PM EDT
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We should all use the same bathroom, cause feels.
Link Posted: 2/2/2016 9:20:05 PM EDT
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I didn't read the thread.

However,all black dorms is bullshit.
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I identify as a black male college student. If I have any issues in that dorm, I'm suing UConn.
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The guys in that dorm would be very nice to you.
Link Posted: 2/2/2016 9:23:55 PM EDT
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Lol
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hoping that black males will graduate at a higher rate if they spend more time with one another






this
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That totally works in the projects.
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Link Posted: 2/2/2016 9:34:05 PM EDT
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And we come full circle.
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I self identify as a sorority slut.  I want to live in the sluttiest sorority house on campus.
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I self identify as a sorority slut.  I want to live in the sluttiest sorority house on campus.
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I'm sure they can find some frat boys to treat you like the slut you self identify as.
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This. I thought they were supposed to graduate at a higher rate because of "diversity" (being around white kids). I guess that didn't work so we're going to try anti-diversity now?
Link Posted: 2/2/2016 11:03:27 PM EDT
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So are they gonna have white dorms now? This is out of . This is a lawsuit waiting to happen...
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I know the irony is killing me.
Link Posted: 2/2/2016 11:14:24 PM EDT
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It's racist to oppose segregation.
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It's racist to oppose segregation.

This.

"The white portion of the University of Connecticut is probably not ready for it," he speculated. "You have people who are going to go against it because they are just racist and they see this as a form of segregation or that we’re getting better things than they are."


The puppetry major just turned a couple hundred years of history on its head. Now you're a racist if you oppose segregation. The correct and socially-acceptable position is to support separate housing based on (self-identified) race.
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I'm sure the graduation rate will some.
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Separate but equal?
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Came here to post the same thing (except ending in a period rather than a question mark).
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Until the rims are repossessed.
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And the wheels on the bus go round and round.


Until the rims are repossessed.

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