[ARCHIVED THREAD] - SIG “ The P320. It ends today.” (Page 84 of 142)
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Quoted: You’re not seeing the utility in the design… just imagine it, there you are in the kitchen, preparing your signature lasagna and need to grate some Parmesan…. just unholster your new Sig and go to work! The angle and taper of the serrations is optimized for peak grating ability as confirmed by our operators operating operationally in our state of the art food preparation lab. Cutting edge tech. |
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The going price will be reduced to $299 before dealers rid themselves of their P320 stock. |
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Quoted: At least it uses p320 mags. Thats a plus. That's a big deal for 320 owners. There weren't enough 250s produced to absorb all the 320 mags on the market, and there's only a few multi-mag Gen 2 SUB2000s at distributors left. 320 owners have a path away from the 320 now. |
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Quoted: The angle and taper of the serrations is optimized for peak grating ability as confirmed by our operators operating operationally in our state of the art food preparation lab. Cutting edge tech. Quoted: Quoted: You're not seeing the utility in the design just imagine it, there you are in the kitchen, preparing your signature lasagna and need to grate some Parmesan . just unholster your new Sig and go to work! The angle and taper of the serrations is optimized for peak grating ability as confirmed by our operators operating operationally in our state of the art food preparation lab. Cutting edge tech. Remember 20 years ago when "carry melt" was popular, and it's pretty much the opposite of this? |
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Quoted: You're not Down with the Signess?  There's a lot of Down's there, that's for sure. Quoted: Remember 20 years ago when "carry melt" was popular, and it's pretty much the opposite of this? Does it make me an automatic boomer to still want a hard chromed 1911 with a carry melt? |
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Quoted:  It actually stands for Get Tourniquets Ordered. Quoted: Quoted: Does that stand for: GheTtO ? Because… damn…. Anyhow, the VPD report was interesting. So glad I never got on the Sig bandwagon, and we never approved the new models for the agency. Sig was certainly trying hard to sell them when they first came out, doing free shoots, offering deals, etc… It actually stands for Get Tourniquets Ordered. |
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Quoted: At least it uses p320 mags. Thats a plus. I just don't want to buy another Sig until this gets worked out. Think Sig would be willing to trade 2 for 1? |
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Quoted: Well, since I have a bunch of 320 magazines that would at least be a good use of them while we try to get that pistol sorted, if it can be. I just don't want to buy another Sig until this gets worked out. Think Sig would be willing to trade 2 for 1? Quoted: Quoted: At least it uses p320 mags. Thats a plus. Well, since I have a bunch of 320 magazines that would at least be a good use of them while we try to get that pistol sorted, if it can be. I just don't want to buy another Sig until this gets worked out. Think Sig would be willing to trade 2 for 1? That I doubt. |
Sig sudo-threatens cops Sig is run by bad people |
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Straight up: FUCK SIG I'm so glad that I sold my P365 a long time ago. Ain't buying anything from the fucks again. |
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Quoted: Basically the rough edges smoothed out on compact/sub compact guns? Pepperidge farm remembers. Quoted: Quoted: Remember 20 years ago when "carry melt" was popular, and it's pretty much the opposite of this? Basically the rough edges smoothed out on compact/sub compact guns? Pepperidge farm remembers. Clark Custom "Meltdown". |
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Quoted: Over/under on Sig going it's up? Well, a half hour ago I received a phone call from a guy at SIG telling me he was my new account manager. Seems that SIG is making an end run around distributors and hitting up dealers direct. "I can get stuff for you when the distributors cant"  They have to be hurting for business, otherwise they wouldn't bother with a little kitchen table FFL. |
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Quoted: Well, a half hour ago I received a phone call from a guy at SIG telling me he was my new account manager. Seems that SIG is making an end run around distributors and hitting up dealers direct. "I can get stuff for you when the distributors cant" They have to be hurting for business, otherwise they wouldn't bother with a little kitchen table FFL. Quoted: Quoted: Over/under on Sig going it's up? Well, a half hour ago I received a phone call from a guy at SIG telling me he was my new account manager. Seems that SIG is making an end run around distributors and hitting up dealers direct. "I can get stuff for you when the distributors cant" They have to be hurting for business, otherwise they wouldn't bother with a little kitchen table FFL. Wow! Yer in the big time now, Tom! Congrats!
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Quoted: Well, a half hour ago I received a phone call from a guy at SIG telling me he was my new account manager. Seems that SIG is making an end run around distributors and hitting up dealers direct. "I can get stuff for you when the distributors cant" They have to be hurting for business, otherwise they wouldn't bother with a little kitchen table FFL. Quoted: Quoted: Over/under on Sig going it's up? Well, a half hour ago I received a phone call from a guy at SIG telling me he was my new account manager. Seems that SIG is making an end run around distributors and hitting up dealers direct. "I can get stuff for you when the distributors cant" They have to be hurting for business, otherwise they wouldn't bother with a little kitchen table FFL. Just told this to a gunshow buddy, and his FFL just got the same call. |
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Quoted: Well, a half hour ago I received a phone call from a guy at SIG telling me he was my new account manager. Seems that SIG is making an end run around distributors and hitting up dealers direct. "I can get stuff for you when the distributors cant" They have to be hurting for business, otherwise they wouldn't bother with a little kitchen table FFL. Quoted: Quoted: Over/under on Sig going it's up? Well, a half hour ago I received a phone call from a guy at SIG telling me he was my new account manager. Seems that SIG is making an end run around distributors and hitting up dealers direct. "I can get stuff for you when the distributors cant" They have to be hurting for business, otherwise they wouldn't bother with a little kitchen table FFL. There seems to be a lot of fire sales going around on 320s from many online sites trying to offload their stock. |
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Quoted: Straight up: FUCK SIG I'm so glad that I sold my P365 a long time ago. Ain't buying anything from the fucks again. Quoted: FUCK SIG I'm so glad that I sold my P365 a long time ago. Ain't buying anything from the fucks again. I have a 320 because that’s what we are issued, and I like to practice. I have my 365 because the little fucker shoots. About 5000 rounds and zero malfs. Accurate as fuck. I can make about 7 guns out of my parts. Shot it side by side with my CR920XP yesterday and it was still more accurate. I just use Armory Craft +10% trigger return springs and change them out regularly. |
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Quoted: There seems to be a lot of fire sales going around on 320s from many online sites trying to offload their stock. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Over/under on Sig going it's up? Well, a half hour ago I received a phone call from a guy at SIG telling me he was my new account manager. Seems that SIG is making an end run around distributors and hitting up dealers direct. "I can get stuff for you when the distributors cant" They have to be hurting for business, otherwise they wouldn't bother with a little kitchen table FFL. There seems to be a lot of fire sales going around on 320s from many online sites trying to offload their stock. I sold my one and only p320 not because I personally had issues it’s more the principle of the matter. I think Sig has some really cool products and designs , but they have put profit over safety on this one. Ron Cohen should step down at this point. |
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Quoted: I sold my one and only p320 not because I personally had issues it’s more the principle of the matter. I think Sig has some really cool products and designs , but they have put profit over safety on this one. [b]Ron Cohen should step down at this point.[b] Step down? That MFer, the entire C-suite, and their legal team needs to be indicted. |
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Quoted: Step down? That MFer, the entire C-suite, and their legal team needs to be indicted. Quoted: Quoted: I sold my one and only p320 not because I personally had issues it’s more the principle of the matter. I think Sig has some really cool products and designs , but they have put profit over safety on this one. [b]Ron Cohen should step down at this point.[b] Step down? That MFer, the entire C-suite, and their legal team needs to be indicted. Theyll jump ship just in time to go torpedo another brand amazing how far sig has fallen |
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Quoted: Step down? That MFer, the entire C-suite, and their legal team needs to be indicted. Quoted: Quoted: I sold my one and only p320 not because I personally had issues it’s more the principle of the matter. I think Sig has some really cool products and designs , but they have put profit over safety on this one. [b]Ron Cohen should step down at this point.[b] Step down? That MFer, the entire C-suite, and their legal team needs to be indicted. You’re probably not wrong. |
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Ben in this is saying he's hearing that the people who are dropping the sig from their departments are getting - my words here - threatening nastygrams. For everyone who didn't watch yet. |
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Quoted: Ben in this is saying he's hearing that the people who are dropping the sig from their departments are getting - my words here - threatening nastygrams. For everyone who didn't watch yet. Quoted: For everyone who didn't watch yet. That tracks since they've tried AROCKing members here. |
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Quoted: That tracks since they've tried AROCKing members here. Quoted: Quoted: For everyone who didn't watch yet. That tracks since they've tried AROCKing members here. Sig is their own worst enemy. At the end of the day the consumers and LEO both have learned more about the design and don't trust it. There was a post I remember that was basically saying their design is like carrying a 1911 cocked with the safety off and the grip safety disabled. The typical LEO has a holster that lessens the chance of injury by a unplanned discharge. The typical CC guy will shoot their femoral artery or private parts. This isn't just a P320 issue. There are many who feel like Sig has made their customers Beta testers on multiple platforms over the years. I assume they are monitoring this tread so they should take a hard look at the overall picture of their own making. |
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Quoted: Surely Glock, HK and dozens of others are lining up to interview him. Sadly, DelTon and Sccy died at their own hands. Quoted: Quoted: Ron Cohen should step down at this point. Surely Glock, HK and dozens of others are lining up to interview him. Sadly, DelTon and Sccy died at their own hands. "We can fix him"...or stall long enough for our own golden parachutes to deploy. He'll land softly, wherever. Another BIG company. |
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Quoted: You’re probably not wrong. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I sold my one and only p320 not because I personally had issues it’s more the principle of the matter. I think Sig has some really cool products and designs , but they have put profit over safety on this one. [b]Ron Cohen should step down at this point.[b] Step down? That MFer, the entire C-suite, and their legal team needs to be indicted. You’re probably not wrong. Technically, he was convicted in a German court for evading export controls. I’d love to know the depth of graft and bribery behind the scenes because given their public PR missteps, it has to be epic. |
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Quoted: Sig is their own worst enemy. At the end of the day the consumers and LEO both have learned more about the design and don't trust it. There was a post I remember that was basically saying their design is like carrying a 1911 cocked with the safety off and the grip safety disabled. The typical LEO has a holster that lessens the chance of injury by a unplanned discharge. The typical CC guy will shoot their femoral artery or private parts. This isn't just a P320 issue. There are many who feel like Sig has made their customers Beta testers on multiple platforms over the years. I assume they are monitoring this tread so they should take a hard look at the overall picture of their own making. A cocked and unlocked 1911 with the grip safety disabled would imo still be safer. |
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Quoted: Agreed, because least it won't go off without a trigger pull. I would have specified Series 80 with the firing pin block, but we know from Sigs own testing that the P320 FPB may not be effective, or may be marginal at best. Because the 1911 sear and hammer are fixed in the same steel frame rather than split between the frame and slide as on a striker fired gun it is probably fair to say that a Series 70 FCG with both safeties disengaged is also safer. |
 Slagging GBRS and Sig Have not watched. |
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Looks like Chicago PD just jumped on the ban wagon. Chicago PD 320 |
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Female SRO officer in california at blaker kinder JR hs, her holstered firearm discharged. Non life threatening injury to her leg, transported to hospital, incident under investigation. No details. He says he's been told the officer was videoed with her dominant hand on a backpack when the discharge happened. |
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Quoted: Female SRO officer in california at blaker kinder JR hs, her holstered firearm discharged. Non life threatening injury to her leg, transported to hospital, incident under investigation. No details. He says he's been told the officer was videod with her hand on a backpack when the discharge happened. Quoted: Non life threatening injury to her leg, transported to hospital, incident under investigation. No details. He says he's been told the officer was videod with her hand on a backpack when the discharge happened. Drawstring! Lipstick! Not seated properly!
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Quoted: Drawstring! Lipstick! Not seated properly! Quoted: Quoted: Non life threatening injury to her leg, transported to hospital, incident under investigation. No details. He says he's been told the officer was videod with her hand on a backpack when the discharge happened. "dog mauls ch..." "Oh it was a pitbull, wasn't it?" .... *record guess* and a few days later: Oh look still holding at over (high percentage) correct guesses." They're effectively the "My pit babies haven't harmed anyone, they'd never do that!" of the gun world right now. |
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Quoted: Forgot the keys. Also handcuffs & tourniquet straps. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Drawstring! Lipstick! Not seated properly! ??????? Forgot the keys. Also handcuffs & tourniquet straps. |