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Posted: 1/7/2021 12:46:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: With all due respect, Trump doesn't even come close to representing true conservative values, other than maybe some social issues. That's the lunacy of it. They didn't need to become Trumpers, they just needed to use him to get ANYTHING THOSE LYING FUCKING SHITBAGS CLAIMED TO WANT TO DO done. Instead 4 years of jack and shit including two in control of both houses. They did manage to spend a shit ton of money we don't have and expand government reach though. You know, the opposite of all that shit they lie about supporting. ETA: The shitbags need ousting. Even if we loose in the short term. Walking away and giving up does not mean that politics stops impacting you. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 12:59:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's the lunacy of it. They didn't need to become Trumpers, they just needed to use him to get ANYTHING THOSE LYING FUCKING SHITBAGS CLAIMED TO WANT TO DO done. Instead 4 years of jack and shit including two in control of both houses. They did manage to spend a shit ton of money we don't have and expand government reach though. You know, the opposite of all that shit they lie about supporting. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: With all due respect, Trump doesn't even come close to representing true conservative values, other than maybe some social issues. That's the lunacy of it. They didn't need to become Trumpers, they just needed to use him to get ANYTHING THOSE LYING FUCKING SHITBAGS CLAIMED TO WANT TO DO done. Instead 4 years of jack and shit including two in control of both houses. They did manage to spend a shit ton of money we don't have and expand government reach though. You know, the opposite of all that shit they lie about supporting. the last true conservative to occupy the WH was Reagan and the best he managed to do was cut the rate at which gov't grew. the gov't grew every year but one under Reagan, that's because he had Tip O'Neil to contend with and no line item veto. trump was populist, not a conservative. he had Paul Ryan and then Nancy Pelosi to contend with and no line item veto. you fellas who are holding out for another true conservative again, better not hold your breath. you'll also need a true conservative speaker and true conservative senate majority leader in power at the same time to get spending under control to the level you want. you know that ain't happening - right? |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 1:00:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Swamp is deep Feed them all to the gators. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 1:00:18 PM EDT
[#4]
I'm writing in Bill Burr from now on.
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Posted: 1/7/2021 1:10:15 PM EDT
[#5]
It's time the Republican and Democratic parties went the way of the Federalists. Neither one works for the people anymore. I don't think Trump is the answer, but more non-career politicians might be.
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Posted: 1/7/2021 1:13:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm writing in Also pre or post Operation Cinder Bill Burr? 
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Posted: 1/7/2021 1:13:32 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Doesn’t matter to me, I’m never voting again. I refuse to STOP voting. Make the bastards have to create yet ONE MORE fraudulent vote to counter mine. Not voting is the WORST thing you can do. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 1:13:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's time the Republican and Democratic parties went the way of the Federalists. Neither one works for the people anymore. I don't think Trump is the answer, but more non-career politicians might be. Good Luck with that. - R. Perot, TX. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 1:16:46 PM EDT
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it was done a long time ago
some are just discovering what they were being told for a long time, but they chose to ignore it, because 'muh party' |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 1:18:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I feel the same way, but the socialists are salivating at the thought of us all sitting them out. It just makes the fraud easier. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Doesn't matter to me, I'm never voting again. I'm with him. They can blow me. I feel the same way, but the socialists are salivating at the thought of us all sitting them out. It just makes the fraud easier. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 1:21:15 PM EDT
[#11]
I did two things the day I turned 18, I registered for the draft, and registered as a R.
Today, after 50 years, I changed my political party. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em and eat them from inside. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 1:25:23 PM EDT
[#12]
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Posted: 1/7/2021 1:26:29 PM EDT
[#13]
Seriously considering switching affiliation to Democrat just to throw a wrench in their works...
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Posted: 1/7/2021 1:27:59 PM EDT
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Yesterday the Republican Party walked away from 80 Million America First voters. Who the 80 million support going forward will be largely up to one man. Trump is now the King Maker.
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Posted: 1/7/2021 1:32:10 PM EDT
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The republican’ts are fucking worthless cunts. Kind of like the NRA. I think they are happiest $$ when they are on the ropes.
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Posted: 1/7/2021 1:34:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I swear, some of you people just giving up on politics after a loss would have given up after the first shot fired at Lexington Green in 1775. HARDEN THE FUCK UP. The Dems claim 2000, 2004 and 2016 were 'stolen' from them. Did they ever give up? No. So any of you quitters have less spine then your average democrat, which is pathetic considering how much shit we talk about them here. Now is not the time to cry and retreat. I agree brother. I fought terror against 3 different terror groups. I am not going to let the Commies put me in the corner with a pacifier. People saying the Republicans are gone were saying that when Clinton was Elected too. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 1:40:03 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I agree brother. I fought terror against 3 different terror groups. I am not going to let the Commies put me in the corner with a pacifier. People saying the Republicans are gone were saying that when Clinton was Elected too. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I swear, some of you people just giving up on politics after a loss would have given up after the first shot fired at Lexington Green in 1775. HARDEN THE FUCK UP. The Dems claim 2000, 2004 and 2016 were 'stolen' from them. Did they ever give up? No. So any of you quitters have less spine then your average democrat, which is pathetic considering how much shit we talk about them here. Now is not the time to cry and retreat. I agree brother. I fought terror against 3 different terror groups. I am not going to let the Commies put me in the corner with a pacifier. People saying the Republicans are gone were saying that when Clinton was Elected too. I don't think it's about a "loss".. its about what got us to this point and what has been/is taking place. America is getting fucked hard and they're not being so discrete about it anymore. Only a few politicians are keeping true to their oath's. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 1:41:20 PM EDT
[#18]
As a Colorado voter, my vote doesn't count except for local issues. Dems own the cities, voting mechanism and media.
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Posted: 1/7/2021 1:45:21 PM EDT
[#19]
Every so often something happens and someone comes along and posts a thread title like this.
Today is a new day and the party is still here. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 1:47:14 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Every so often something happens and someone comes along and posts a thread title like this. Today is a new day and the party is still here. Ask me how I know you aren't real good at looking down the road to see what's coming. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 1:49:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I did two things the day I turned 18, I registered for the draft, and registered as a R. Today, after 50 years, I changed my political party. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em and eat them from inside. I registered for the draft and bought a semi auto center fire rifle and all the ammo I could afford... That was my 18th birth day tip of my hat to this great nation. Even back then, I thought that almost all the politicians where crooks. The real strength in this country and what makes it so great is THE PEOPLE. WE THE PEOPLE. Not some rulers. If you trace back there family trees you will see a lot of them have ruled for generations, are related to both sides (there are no D and R it's all a shame, to make you think there's a choice)... and as you trace lines back, you will find a bunch of our ruling families are the old kings and queens of Europe. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 1:54:35 PM EDT
[#22]
The republican party does not get to walk away from this. I say this as a lifelong conservative.
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Posted: 1/7/2021 2:00:09 PM EDT
[#23]
When/if a true conservative steps up to the plate he could have more support than Trump. That person has not stepped up, yet. I truly believe the repubs will not support another Romney or McCain. This is good as the dems have proven they will continue to support this type of candidate, Biden being the proof. The unfortunate part is it is unlikely states will do anything to make voting honest.
I would really like to see some repubs removed from office over the next few years. Georgia needs to recall the governor to start with. It’s unfortunate we can’t recall US Senators. There needs to be a lot of pressure and money to vote these guys out. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 2:02:16 PM EDT
[#24]
They REFUSE to learn to FIGHT! Trump has tried for 5 years now, but they refuse to FIGHT for their voters!
While the GOPe bends over backwards to reach across the aisle, the Dems are looking for the earliest opportunity to stick a spoon shank in their necks. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 2:13:27 PM EDT
[#25]
I am changing my registration to democrat so I can vote for the dumbest candidate they have. Ya know like Biden.
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Posted: 1/7/2021 2:19:07 PM EDT
[#26]
I'm not sure swapping parties is the right way to protest. Folks in CA did about the same thing and it fragged the party and never regained. The end result is just as important.
I do not have any advice, just thinking out loud. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 2:25:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't think it's about a "loss".. its about what got us to this point and what has been/is taking place. America is getting fucked hard and they're not being so discrete about it anymore. Only a few politicians are keeping true to their oath's. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I swear, some of you people just giving up on politics after a loss would have given up after the first shot fired at Lexington Green in 1775. HARDEN THE FUCK UP. The Dems claim 2000, 2004 and 2016 were 'stolen' from them. Did they ever give up? No. So any of you quitters have less spine then your average democrat, which is pathetic considering how much shit we talk about them here. Now is not the time to cry and retreat. I agree brother. I fought terror against 3 different terror groups. I am not going to let the Commies put me in the corner with a pacifier. People saying the Republicans are gone were saying that when Clinton was Elected too. I don't think it's about a "loss".. its about what got us to this point and what has been/is taking place. America is getting fucked hard and they're not being so discrete about it anymore. Only a few politicians are keeping true to their oath's. That's one thing that distinguishes the left from us. They don't quit when they lose, even when they feel like they were cheated. They redouble their efforts. That's what I find so disgusting about the attitude running rampant here. We fancy ourselves "patriots"; we revere the founding fathers and people that fought to create this country against huge odds and many disappointments. And yet so many here are tucking their tails after one loss. You people need to re-read some Thomas Paine and regain a bit of perspective: THESE are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph... |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 2:42:09 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And the way to get the change we want is not by taking your ball and going home in a huff. That's one thing that distinguishes the left from us. They don't quit when they lose, even when they feel like they were cheated. They redouble their efforts. That's what I find so disgusting about the attitude running rampant here. We fancy ourselves "patriots"; we revere the founding fathers and people that fought to create this country against huge odds and many disappointments. And yet so many here are tucking their tails after one loss. You people need to re-read some Thomas Paine and regain a bit of perspective: THESE are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph... Dude they called us all criminals, unruly mob, and insurrectionists. They turned on us yesterday. Not the other way around. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 3:33:04 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Doesn't matter to me, I'm never voting again. Agree. The vote of the people no longer count. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 4:00:10 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Dude they called us all criminals, unruly mob, and insurrectionists. They turned on us yesterday. Not the other way around. Yeah, well... Y'all are reacting as though all those people really believe the narrative that the election was stolen, maybe some still do. Most never did. They were willing to see if anything came of any challenges, willing to go along with POTUS, and most important willing to play to the base that does believe the narrative for political gain. Then people died storming the Capitol. Guys like Graham who played both sides should resign in disgrace anyway. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 4:06:47 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And the way to get the change we want is not by taking your ball and going home in a huff. That's one thing that distinguishes the left from us. They don't quit when they lose, even when they feel like they were cheated. They redouble their efforts. That's what I find so disgusting about the attitude running rampant here. We fancy ourselves "patriots"; we revere the founding fathers and people that fought to create this country against huge odds and many disappointments. And yet so many here are tucking their tails after one loss. You people need to re-read some Thomas Paine and regain a bit of perspective: THESE are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph... Oh, please... The deck is stacked, the game is rigged, and your beloved Republican Party is the other side of the same corrupt, cynical, statist coin. They sold out their grassroots supporters yesterday, and in doing so, consigned themselves to the dustbin of history. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 4:08:44 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh, please... The deck is stacked, the game is rigged, and your beloved Republican Party is the other side of the same corrupt, cynical, statist coin. They sold out their grassroots supporters yesterday, and in doing so, consigned themselves to the dustbin of history. 
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Posted: 1/7/2021 4:10:00 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, well... Y'all are reacting as though all those people really believe the narrative that the election was stolen, maybe some still do. Most never did. They were willing to see if anything came of any challenges, willing to go along with POTUS, and most important willing to play to the base that does believe the narrative for political gain. Then people died storming the Capitol. Guys like Graham who played both sides should resign in disgrace anyway. 
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Posted: 1/7/2021 4:12:27 PM EDT
[#34]
I'm 52. I've always voted and I've always voted republican. I'm not gonna piss away my time playing charades and lying to myself anymore.
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Posted: 1/7/2021 4:14:52 PM EDT
[#35]
Quoted: Those disengaging from the political process are abandoning the battlefield. The reason the left is winning is because they don't give up after a loss. But apparently a lot of people on arfcom do. I'm not giving up on the political process. What I'm doing is giving up on Republicans. I'm now an Independent. Candidates will no longer get my vote just because they have an "R" after their name on the ballot. They're going to have to do something for me and prove themselves to me. Here in Alabama, we've got a "Republican" governor who is doing her best to act like a statist demoncrat. We've been under an emergency order since March, and forced to wear masks since July, and all its done is hurt businesses and divided people. That isn't a true Republican. And, I'm going to be speaking and do my best to organize like minded individuals. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 4:26:44 PM EDT
[#36]
The Democrats are playing Hitler in an armed Society.
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Posted: 1/7/2021 4:29:24 PM EDT
[#37]
One Bright spot is that if Pedo Biden implements his policies then he will starve most of the Democrats.
But with the Chinese Cheating Machine, he doesn't need them anyway. 
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Posted: 1/7/2021 4:33:30 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh, please... The deck is stacked, the game is rigged, and your beloved Republican Party is the other side of the same corrupt, cynical, statist coin. They sold out their grassroots supporters yesterday, and in doing so, consigned themselves to the dustbin of history. I have to agree 
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Posted: 1/7/2021 4:58:02 PM EDT
[#39]
I have probably voted for the last time. I feel like voting again would be just going through the motions, playing along with the left's sham. Because elections are a sham. There will never be a free and fair election again. I have also voted for my last Republican. If there should one day be a third party that will actually stand for conservative principles, and it's elected members should actually act like they believe those principles, I might consider voting for them. But my wife and I changed our party affiliation to independent. And we do not intend to vote Republican again, nor do we associate with the feckless, cowardly principles of the Republican party.
The Republican party is dead to me. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 5:15:24 PM EDT
[#40]
It doesn’t matter what party you are.
The machines are set to Democrat. Unplanned excessive votes for non-Democrats just require a two-hour or so short break for ‘adjustment’. Vote—or don’t vote—however you want. The outcome was already determined. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 5:33:29 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And the way to get the change we want is not by taking your ball and going home in a huff. That's one thing that distinguishes the left from us. They don't quit when they lose, even when they feel like they were cheated. They redouble their efforts. That's what I find so disgusting about the attitude running rampant here. We fancy ourselves "patriots"; we revere the founding fathers and people that fought to create this country against huge odds and many disappointments. And yet so many here are tucking their tails after one loss. You people need to re-read some Thomas Paine and regain a bit of perspective: THESE are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph... I'm not sure what your point is with that particular quote, and I know that you're NOT advocating that course of action. I mean, it wouldn't bother me if you were, but I'm thinking you should quote Gandhi or something.  We're telling the Republican backstabbers to F off because they're completely useless, except for padding their own bank accounts. They may have their fiefdoms regardless, but we don't have to lend credibility to them by playing their game. Voting for Republicans is a futile act, because they have made it well known that the only thing we're good for is the fruits of our labor, which are used to prop up a patronage-based social/corporate welfare state, with a little skimming off the top through influence peddling and kickbacks. They let us know that we need to stay in our lanes while they lord over us. Look at them scramble for the chance to disassociate themselves from their constituents yesterday, calling them names that they never had the guts to call leftists! Screw them. Let the few honorable ones leave and form another party. Really... we act as if we elect these people anyway. We don't anymore. I don't understand how anyone can even use the word "vote" anymore, with regards to the Federal Government. What the hell is that, put your thing in the machine and then let the computer or some wretched human being delete it or dilute it with lies? Everyone is making money and the middle class are paying the bills. They're doing exactly what tyrannies do. You're either "in", or you're "out". If you're out, and bend the knee they'll let you keep some of what you work for, if you decide to work, that is. Otherwise, they'll enslave you to entitlement programs like they've done with the blacks, and keep you uneducated so that you don't know you're cattle. Every Republican who didn't stand up to tyranny is clamoring for some of that incumbent job security, hoping they're "selected" the next time around. I can't foresee myself voting for a Republican again. I won't lend credibility to that. TL;DR: Nope. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 5:46:25 PM EDT
[#42]
Most o GD would vote for Romney again if he were the nominee and chastise those who wouldn't with all kinds of BS excuses.
 You guys are so full of shit. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 7:26:18 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The Democrats are playing Hitler in an armed Society. And so far it's working out astonishingly well for them. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 7:36:15 PM EDT
[#44]
Pretty much. Until yesterday, I would have walked through a fire to get most of them elected. But after those absolutely spineless, cowardly statements that all of them made denouncing our outrage, I'm done with them. I literally have no use for voting at this point. They have contributed to the dismantling of my trust in the election system, as well as government as a whole. And I simply don't believe that they represent my values or beliefs at this point, or that they have the slightest clue about how pissed off millions of us are.
I cant really think of a single conservative politician who would earn my vote at this point. All of them - top to bottom - shit the bed yesterday. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 7:40:39 PM EDT
[#45]
LOL at quoting Thomas Paine and saying "We need to redouble our efforts to work WITHIN THE SYSTEM!" in the same breath.
Thomas Paine leads directly to this: 
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Posted: 1/7/2021 7:42:26 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Pretty much. Until yesterday, I would have walked through a fire to get most of them elected. But after those absolutely spineless, cowardly statements that all of them made denouncing our outrage, I'm done with them. I literally have no use for voting at this point. They have contributed to the dismantling of my trust in the election system, as well as government as a whole. And I simply don't believe that they represent my values or beliefs at this point, or that they have the slightest clue about how pissed off millions of us are. I cant really think of a single conservative politician who would earn my vote at this point. All of them - top to bottom - shit the bed yesterday. Here's the thing though: Republicans in Congress identify more with the Democrats in Congress than they identify with you or me. Their priority of loyalty is to Party first, then to their house of Congress, then Congress as a whole, then the Federal government, then waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay over there is We The People and waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay over there beyond that is the Constitution. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 7:45:57 PM EDT
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I'm going to remember this thread when at least half the quitters tell me I have to vote for the republican. Maybe I will, if I like him. The next time the RNC calls me while I'm home I'm going to answer. I never do. They are going to get an ear full. This election was fraudulent and most of them did nothing to stop it.
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Posted: 1/7/2021 7:50:16 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: At this rate, Texas going blue in 2024 would not surprise me You can bank on it. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 7:50:37 PM EDT
[#49]
I agree, fuck the establishment pukes. They suck will never get my vote again.
China if you want to invade Taiwan now is the time. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 7:51:52 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It was done when they nominated Trump and let him wreck the party. Don't fret. You can go back now. |
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