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Posted: 9/8/2013 9:33:41 AM EDT
[#1]
So what, each movie has set piece scenes that defy reality. In Temple of Doom he jumps out of a fracking Trimotor using an inflatable raft ... WITH TWO ADDITIONAL PEOPLE.
Also, when Indy punches someone it's louder than a Schmeisser. Fact. It's a movie. One of the greatest of all time. If they'd handled the final act of Crystal Skull better I'd have enjoyed it more too. It just got so ... Defocused, for lack of a better term. IMHO with better management and creative writing they could have done a dozen movies. The milieu is so rich for ideas. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 9:34:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You guys are so stupid. That's not how it happened. Aquaman gave him a ride on a porpose. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Never explained in the movie, but in the comic he hung onto the periscope. I know U-Boats mostly traveled on the surface, but, wow. Anyway, still a fantastic movie. K That is what I figured. Subs back then always traveled on the surface except when getting close to striking a target. I always figured that Indy rode on top of the sub while it was surfaced. The nazis believed Indy was dead, as the merchant ship captain said. Foolishly, they believed him and didnt take precautions. You guys are so stupid. That's not how it happened. Aquaman gave him a ride on a porpose. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 9:35:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If he and his father both drank from the holy grail why is his father dead? |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 9:35:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So what, each movie has set piece scenes that defy reality. In Temple of Doom he jumps out of a fracking Trimotor using an inflatable raft ... WITH TWO ADDITIONAL PEOPLE. Also, when Indy punches someone it's louder than a Schmeisser. Fact. It's a movie. One of the greatest of all time. If they'd handled the final act of Crystal Skull better I'd have enjoyed it more too. It just got so ... Defocused, for lack of a better term. IMHO with better management and creative writing they could have done a dozen movies. The milieu is so rich for ideas. People have jumped out of airplanes without a chute, and lived.
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Posted: 9/8/2013 9:37:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: An intensive porpoise? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Never explained in the movie, but in the comic he hung onto the periscope. I know U-Boats mostly traveled on the surface, but, wow. Anyway, still a fantastic movie. K That is what I figured. Subs back then always traveled on the surface except when getting close to striking a target. I always figured that Indy rode on top of the sub while it was surfaced. The nazis believed Indy was dead, as the merchant ship captain said. Foolishly, they believed him and didnt take precautions. You guys are so stupid. That's not how it happened. Aquaman gave him a ride on a porpose. Well it clearly wasn't an accident. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 9:42:41 AM EDT
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He left the sanctuary. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If he and his father both drank from the holy grail why is his father dead? Because the Grail went past the great seal. If the grail stayed, they would have had extremely long lives like the knights who protected it. The one knight stayed to protect it, but it wasn't necessary to stay there which is noted in the book that chronicled the knights story. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 9:42:51 AM EDT
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He left the sanctuary. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If he and his father both drank from the holy grail why is his father dead? You just couldn't take the cup from it, the power was to work even if you left. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 9:48:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If he and his father both drank from the holy grail why is his father dead? Because they chose poorly, Duh. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 9:54:36 AM EDT
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If he and his father both drank from the holy grail why is his father dead? got to drink out of it everyday - the knight aged but was still alive due to his daily dose out of the Trinity shot glass. Indy played it like he was smart but he simply perused the glasses till he came across the one with fresh water at the bottom. The Last Supper wasn't a BYO "Cup" it was hosted. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 11:35:52 AM EDT
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People have jumped out of airplanes without a chute, and lived. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So what, each movie has set piece scenes that defy reality. In Temple of Doom he jumps out of a fracking Trimotor using an inflatable raft ... WITH TWO ADDITIONAL PEOPLE. Also, when Indy punches someone it's louder than a Schmeisser. Fact. It's a movie. One of the greatest of all time. If they'd handled the final act of Crystal Skull better I'd have enjoyed it more too. It just got so ... Defocused, for lack of a better term. IMHO with better management and creative writing they could have done a dozen movies. The milieu is so rich for ideas. People have jumped out of airplanes without a chute, and lived. Sure - who cares, it's a movie. He also got smashed in the face with the mirror and just rubbed his jaw (no broken jaw, no concussion) and used a whip to cross chasms (and unlashed it, to use again- ever try that?) It's a movie. I don't watch movies to see things that **I** could do. 
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Posted: 9/8/2013 11:45:16 AM EDT
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Why didn't the Nazis have lookouts posted on the sub after they took the Ark from the merchant ship? Stop it right here and now. It's a movie. It is a COOL movie. Stop ruining a good movie by finding holes in the plot. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 12:00:33 PM EDT
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"An army that carries the Ark before it... is invincible."
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Posted: 9/8/2013 3:51:31 PM EDT
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"An army that carries the Ark before it... is invincible." As long as they don't open it up and look inside. 
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Posted: 9/8/2013 4:42:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If he and his father both drank from the holy grail why is his father dead? |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 4:45:03 PM EDT
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Also, the rocket launcher Indy threatens to blow up the Ark with is some kind of RPG that wouldn't exist for at least another decade.
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Posted: 9/8/2013 4:47:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As long as they don't open it up and look inside. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: "An army that carries the Ark before it... is invincible." As long as they don't open it up and look inside. I think that was supposed to be explicitly mentioned in that scene, too, but they cut that out for some reason. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 4:54:12 PM EDT
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Also, the rocket launcher Indy threatens to blow up the Ark with is some kind of RPG that wouldn't exist for at least another decade. Look up German Panzerfaust. Think German bazooka. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 5:01:32 PM EDT
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I think that was supposed to be explicitly mentioned in that scene, too, but they cut that out for some reason. Here's a page with a list of the deleted scenes: http://www.indianajones.de/indy1/texte/deleted.php Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 5:09:00 PM EDT
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Older members, help my memory...
I swear that when the movie first came out there was a shot of Indy and the coed when Marcus visited. Marcus even gives a sly glance over to the girl. I swear that there was also a scene where it showed Indy tying himself to the periscope of the sub using his whip. Damn why do they have to keep fucking up good movies 10-15 years later with PC editing. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 5:10:28 PM EDT
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Because it's a movie. THE answer |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 5:17:09 PM EDT
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Indy should've failed when stepping on the lettered stones as he solved the riddle. Anyone know why?
Because the answer was "Jehovah" Only the letter 'J' hadn't been invented yet and people were using the letter 'I' instead. So the answer should've been "Iehovah" and there wouldn't have been a "J" step. (There was no "U" either. People used "V" at the time instead.) |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 5:20:43 PM EDT
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I stopped caring after the raft scene in the Temple of Doom.
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Posted: 9/8/2013 5:27:29 PM EDT
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Those U-Boats were diesel/electric. They ran on batteries when submerged, which was slow, so they tended to run on the surface using the diesel unless spotted by a plane. Plus, it's a movie. Yes, but while they were surfaced, didn't they always had a watch on station on the conning tower, for aircraft and such? Someone would have noticed Jones, unless he hid under the gun deck. And yeah, it's a movie. eta - already mentioned. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 5:32:35 PM EDT
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If he and his father both drank from the holy grail why is his father dead? The immortality conferred upon those who drink from The Holy Grail is only effective within the area of confines designated by the seal and the Grail itself cannot be taken beyond those confines into the outside world. Had Indy or his dad remained within the areaof the seal as did the ancient knight, they too would have remained immortal. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 5:35:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/8/2013 5:39:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Best answer you'll get. Better question: Where did Indie learn to swim faster than a submarine? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Because it's a movie. Best answer you'll get. Better question: Where did Indie learn to swim faster than a submarine? |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 5:43:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Look up German Panzerfaust. Think German bazooka. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Also, the rocket launcher Indy threatens to blow up the Ark with is some kind of RPG that wouldn't exist for at least another decade. Look up German Panzerfaust. Think German bazooka. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 5:45:39 PM EDT
[#28]
I wish they would get Nick Cage to search for the Ark in that giant warehouse. It would be a national treasure to say the least.
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Posted: 9/8/2013 5:46:38 PM EDT
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That's not a Panzerfaust. Not that the Panzerfaust existed back then, anyway, but that's not what that is. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Also, the rocket launcher Indy threatens to blow up the Ark with is some kind of RPG that wouldn't exist for at least another decade. Look up German Panzerfaust. Think German bazooka. Yeah, you're right. From IMFDB "RPG-2 (mocked up as a German anti-tank rocket launcher) Near the climax of the film, Indiana Jones (Harrison Ford) points a shoulder-fired anti-tank weapon at the ark while it is being transported by Belloq and the Germans. The weapon was custom made for the production by the movie's armorer, Simon Atherton, who has stated that the weapon is actually a Chinese Type 56 copy of the Soviet RPG-2 made to look like a WWII-era German anti-tank weapon. The launcher w also appears to be outfitted with a shoulder grip similar to an M9 Bazooka's. The Germans had no such rocket launching weapons in 1936 (when the movie takes place); both the Panzerschreck and Panzerfaust would be developed later, during the war. As such, this launcher can be looked at as a handy plot contrivance." |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 5:46:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Look up German Panzerfaust. Think German bazooka. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Also, the rocket launcher Indy threatens to blow up the Ark with is some kind of RPG that wouldn't exist for at least another decade. Look up German Panzerfaust. Think German bazooka. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 5:54:47 PM EDT
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Well, they had ONE. Thanks, Indy.  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Germans didn't have a prop-driven flying wing aircraft either. Well, they had ONE. Thanks, Indy. The Indiana Jones flying wing was based on a real plane, though. ETA: Beaten to it...... 
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Posted: 9/8/2013 5:57:29 PM EDT
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Quote History That is a panzerfaust. This is a panzerschreck:  Those are the Wehrmacht's only man portable anti-tank rockets. Neither one remotely resembles the RPG Indiana Jones is holding in that scene. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 6:01:25 PM EDT
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My favorite one was the Last Crusade with Allison Doody.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSo54jGTYlM http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0233145/ |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 6:02:03 PM EDT
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As long as they don't open it up and look inside. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"An army that carries the Ark before it... is invincible." As long as they don't open it up and look inside. If you think about it, had Indy stayed home, the movie would have ended exactly the same way. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 6:02:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/32/Panzerfaust_helsinki.jpg/640px-Panzerfaust_helsinki.jpg That is a panzerfaust. This is a panzerschreck: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c9/Bundesarchiv_Bild_101I-671-7483-29%2C_Reichsgebiet%2C_Soldat_mit_Panzerabwehrwaffe.jpg Those are the Wehrmacht's only man portable anti-tank rockets. Neither one remotely resembles the RPG Indiana Jones is holding in that scene. Quote HistoryQuoted: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/32/Panzerfaust_helsinki.jpg/640px-Panzerfaust_helsinki.jpg That is a panzerfaust. This is a panzerschreck: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c9/Bundesarchiv_Bild_101I-671-7483-29%2C_Reichsgebiet%2C_Soldat_mit_Panzerabwehrwaffe.jpg Those are the Wehrmacht's only man portable anti-tank rockets. Neither one remotely resembles the RPG Indiana Jones is holding in that scene. Yea I know that, that's why I put up those pics because everyone knows that's an RPG-2 in that scene. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 6:12:45 PM EDT
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If you think about it, had Indy stayed home, the movie would have ended exactly the same way. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"An army that carries the Ark before it... is invincible." As long as they don't open it up and look inside. If you think about it, had Indy stayed home, the movie would have ended exactly the same way. LoL Well, except the Ark would of stayed in German hands. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 6:17:44 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/8/2013 6:19:05 PM EDT
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Older members, help my memory... I swear that when the movie first came out there was a shot of Indy and the coed when Marcus visited. Marcus even gives a sly glance over to the girl. I swear that there was also a scene where it showed Indy tying himself to the periscope of the sub using his whip. Damn why do they have to keep fucking up good movies 10-15 years later with PC editing. I saw it when it first came out and many times since. Never saw the co-ed in his house or him tying himself to the periscope. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 6:28:03 PM EDT
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LoL Well, except the Ark would of stayed in German hands. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"An army that carries the Ark before it... is invincible." As long as they don't open it up and look inside. If you think about it, had Indy stayed home, the movie would have ended exactly the same way. LoL Well, except the Ark would of stayed in German hands. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile If they found it after digging up the desert. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 6:33:59 PM EDT
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Panzerfausts weren't developed until 1942 or 43. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Also, the rocket launcher Indy threatens to blow up the Ark with is some kind of RPG that wouldn't exist for at least another decade. Look up German Panzerfaust. Think German bazooka. Also, according to IMFDB, the MP40 machine guns wouldn't have existed in 1936. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 6:40:01 PM EDT
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If they found it after digging up the desert. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you think about it, had Indy stayed home, the movie would have ended exactly the same way. LoL Well, except the Ark would of stayed in German hands. If they found it after digging up the desert. Without Indy's interference they would have gotten the complete headpiece for the staff and gotten the correct location. Then again, didn't they follow Indy to find Marion? Screw it...
okay, the Ark wouldn't have been in US hands at the end then.  Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 6:46:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Without Indy's interference they would have gotten the complete headpiece for the staff and gotten the correct location. Then again, didn't they follow Indy to find Marion? Screw it... okay, the Ark wouldn't have been in US hands at the end then. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: If you think about it, had Indy stayed home, the movie would have ended exactly the same way. LoL Well, except the Ark would of stayed in German hands. If they found it after digging up the desert. Without Indy's interference they would have gotten the complete headpiece for the staff and gotten the correct location. Then again, didn't they follow Indy to find Marion? Screw it... okay, the Ark wouldn't have been in US hands at the end then. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 6:46:41 PM EDT
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You guys are so stupid. That's not how it happened. Aquaman gave him a ride on a porpose. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Never explained in the movie, but in the comic he hung onto the periscope. I know U-Boats mostly traveled on the surface, but, wow. Anyway, still a fantastic movie. K That is what I figured. Subs back then always traveled on the surface except when getting close to striking a target. I always figured that Indy rode on top of the sub while it was surfaced. The nazis believed Indy was dead, as the merchant ship captain said. Foolishly, they believed him and didnt take precautions. You guys are so stupid. That's not how it happened. Aquaman gave him a ride on a porpose. [Captain Jack Sparrow] Sea Turtles Mate [/Captain Jack Sparrow] |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 6:51:33 PM EDT
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IIRC, NONE of the guns featured in that movie could have been seen then. I doubt a submarine crew would have 98ks' within months of possible first production. Same with Indy's Hi Power, I doubt he got a first production run of it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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P-38's,MP-40's in 36. Deutsche afrika korps 3 years before the start of the war but still an awesome movie. IIRC, NONE of the guns featured in that movie could have been seen then. I doubt a submarine crew would have 98ks' within months of possible first production. Same with Indy's Hi Power, I doubt he got a first production run of it. I like the straight bolt RC 98Ks the wermacht is armed with. Atleast the grail guards have correct looking turked mausers. The P38 thing always bothered me. I know its a movie but at least try to be half ass correct. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 6:52:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sure - who cares, it's a movie. He also got smashed in the face with the mirror and just rubbed his jaw (no broken jaw, no concussion) and used a whip to cross chasms (and unlashed it, to use again- ever try that?) It's a movie. I don't watch movies to see things that **I** could do. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: So what, each movie has set piece scenes that defy reality. In Temple of Doom he jumps out of a fracking Trimotor using an inflatable raft ... WITH TWO ADDITIONAL PEOPLE. Also, when Indy punches someone it's louder than a Schmeisser. Fact. It's a movie. One of the greatest of all time. If they'd handled the final act of Crystal Skull better I'd have enjoyed it more too. It just got so ... Defocused, for lack of a better term. IMHO with better management and creative writing they could have done a dozen movies. The milieu is so rich for ideas. People have jumped out of airplanes without a chute, and lived. Sure - who cares, it's a movie. He also got smashed in the face with the mirror and just rubbed his jaw (no broken jaw, no concussion) and used a whip to cross chasms (and unlashed it, to use again- ever try that?) It's a movie. I don't watch movies to see things that **I** could do. Just sayin... that the whole jumping out of a plane with a inflatable raft and landing on the side of a mountain and nobody dieing is not all that far fetched. I mean, it's very improbable. But numerous people have survived jumping out of airplanes without having a parachute. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 6:54:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And that's actually in the Bible. You can't touch it, either. Notice how careful Indy and Sallah are when they're taking it out of the pit. I think that was supposed to be explicitly mentioned in that scene, too, but they cut that out for some reason. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: "An army that carries the Ark before it... is invincible." As long as they don't open it up and look inside. I think that was supposed to be explicitly mentioned in that scene, too, but they cut that out for some reason. Would have been anti-climatic for the audience had they known way earlier in the movie that all you had to do, was just not look at it. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 7:04:39 PM EDT
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Why didn't the Nazis have lookouts posted on the sub after they took the Ark from the merchant ship? NM
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Posted: 9/8/2013 9:24:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Would have been anti-climatic for the audience had they known way earlier in the movie that all you had to do, was just not look at it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: "An army that carries the Ark before it... is invincible." As long as they don't open it up and look inside. I think that was supposed to be explicitly mentioned in that scene, too, but they cut that out for some reason. Would have been anti-climatic for the audience had they known way earlier in the movie that all you had to do, was just not look at it. |
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Posted: 9/10/2013 7:14:15 PM EDT
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I have read that the scene where the crowd parts and the big is swinging the broadsword around was improvised.
It was supposed to be a long drawn out scene with the whip and the sword. Ford was suffering from dysentary and improvised the scene 'cause he had to go. 
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Posted: 9/10/2013 7:39:35 PM EDT
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Quoted: Why didn't the Nazis have lookouts posted on the sub after they took the Ark from the merchant ship? Because they knew Tom Selleck wasn't playing the part of Indy and didn't really fear that libtard Han Solo. |
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