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Posted: 8/28/2004 6:56:02 AM EDT

[#1]

Cop: "We're going down to the station, its bath time, you smelly hippy!"
Hippy: "NOOOOO!!!!!!!!"

Kharn

Posted: 8/28/2004 8:02:18 AM EDT

[#2]

Anyone throwing rocks or bottles in these riots should be shot dead on sight.
If anyone were to throw rocks or bottles at my head or at the face of cop walking his beat would be committing aggravated assault or even assault with a deadly weapon - deadly force should be used in self-defense. Even more so in a mob situation.

Anyone destroying private property as part of these riots should be shot dead on sight.
Imagine if you woke up one day to find a mob of 10,000 rioters running up and down YOUR street coming to YOUR home or business kicking in windows, throwing garbage cans through your door - again, I have a right to defend my property against such a severe attack (mobs) and start shooting into the mob to defend my business or home.

"Non-violent" protestors who block traffic and refuse to move should be tazed, choked, sprayed, bound and dragged away by their heels. Or just run over.
No fucking way should ANYONE be allowed to illegally block traffic or business. What the police tolerate, they'll only get more of.

Post signs on every corner and in ten languages:

"BYSTANDERS BEWARE - ANY AND ALL VIOLENT PROTESTERS WILL BE SHOT AND KILLED ON SIGHT!!!"

Posted: 8/28/2004 8:06:14 AM EDT

[#3]

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Wave (and others on the NYPD)-

I'm curious as to what your more liberal associates think of all this. I used to sell police supplies and found that the politics of people in the LE community varried just as much as those of your average American. Certainly you all know of some Clinton/Kerry voters on the force, and probably several who are extremely anti-Bush (ya'll have a union right?). Have you talked to any of the anti-Bush cops about the protests and whatnot? I'd like to hear what they think about protestors who they agree with the message but not the means.

I'll see what I can do in terms of talking to those cops. As cops we're supposed to be politically neutral and "just do our jobs". I don't think any of the NYPD guys are sympathetic to the more whacko-types that are just showing the rest of the world how ridiculous they really are. We've been told over and over again to maintain our professionalism regardless of what happens. We'll see.

Posted: 8/28/2004 8:16:26 AM EDT

[#4]

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Wave (and others on the NYPD)-

I'm curious as to what your more liberal associates think of all this. I used to sell police supplies and found that the politics of people in the LE community varried just as much as those of your average American. Certainly you all know of some Clinton/Kerry voters on the force, and probably several who are extremely anti-Bush (ya'll have a union right?). Have you talked to any of the anti-Bush cops about the protests and whatnot? I'd like to hear what they think about protestors who they agree with the message but not the means.

I'll see what I can do in terms of talking to those cops. As cops we're supposed to be politically neutral and "just do our jobs". I don't think any of the NYPD guys are sympathetic to the more whacko-types that are just showing the rest of the world how ridiculous they really are. We've been told over and over again to maintain our professionalism regardless of what happens. We'll see.

I didn't mean to imply that they'd be totally sympathetic to the whackos per-se, but that they may share a common opinion in regards to Bush. I have met alot of people (both LEO and non) that take pro-union and anti-gun and pro-abortion stances so seriously that they literally hate the current pres. because of it. Those are the guys I'd be curious to know about.

Posted: 8/28/2004 8:56:51 AM EDT

[#5]

What's with all the "Stop AIDS" signs? I guess thats Bush's fault too!

Posted: 8/28/2004 9:11:20 AM EDT

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Norman that reminds of people I remember as kid going on about what "true" socialism meant, how great it really was and that it was unfortunate that the Soviet Union and it's slave states had perverted the "beauty" of "true socialism."

There are places like Somalia where the government has collapsed, strangely middle class college kids who espouse anarchy are not flocking there to have their chance at eating bugs, and being enslaved or shot by local warlords.

Yes, there is a kind of anarchy when things collapse and people or places or societies aren't ready for it. In that case you do wind up with the Mad Max scenario.

To me (or for me) Anarchy is more of an ideal, a goal if you will. This country is going in the complete wrong direction. We should not be adding laws but removing them.

and I'm not sure if you're trying to equate anarchy to socialism, but they are complete opposites. Socialism says the .gov will force you to "help" your neighbor, regardless of what you want to do. Anarchy says you do what you want.

Bear in mind, these protestors are not anarchists. They are kids with too much time and money on their hands, that are attracted to the idea of not having to live under any set of rules, and to the fact that there is a group of other people that, if they shout "anarchy" or paint a red "A" on their backpack, will instantly be their friends. These protests are to Anarchy what the Inquisition was to Christianity.

And NONE of this changes the fact that being an anarchist does not mean that you can't be organized with other people.

Sounds more like Objectivism.

Posted: 8/28/2004 9:37:19 AM EDT

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What's with all the "Stop AIDS" signs? I guess thats Bush's fault too!

Clearly, the AIDS problem has been caused by a lack of government attention and spending.
These folks give new meaning to the expression "butt ugly", but I'm sure they've made people see the light by exposing their asses.

Edit for a P.S. to Wave - Get Some! Just don't get any on yourself..........

Posted: 8/28/2004 9:55:08 AM EDT

[#8]

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Sounds more like Objectivism.

No it doesn't. Objectivists recognize the necessity of government to defend the individual rights of the citizenry. Objectivism is based on principles, anarchism is based on the absence of principles.

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Posted: 8/28/2004 9:56:51 AM EDT

[#9]

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Sounds more like Objectivism.

yes, in a way. But the little hidden society that John Galt & his compatriots flee to at the end of Atlas Shrugged is still an anarchistic one, as there is no govt.

an·ar·chy Audio pronunciation of "anarchy" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (nr-k)
n. pl. an·ar·chies

1. Absence of any form of political authority.
2. Political disorder and confusion.
3. Absence of any cohesive principle, such as a common standard or purpose

Definition #1 is the one that I'm most interested in, and what I mean when I use the term "anarchy" or fly the black flag.

Posted: 8/28/2004 9:57:19 AM EDT

[#10]

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What's with all the "Stop AIDS" signs? I guess thats Bush's fault too!

Clearly, the AIDS problem has been caused by a lack of government attention and spending.
These folks give new meaning to the expression "butt ugly", but I'm sure they've made people see the light by exposing their asses.

Edit for a P.S. to Wave - Get Some! Just don't get any on yourself..........

Well I guess them butt-f'in each other has nothing to do with it!

It's all BUSH's fault!!!

Oh no wait, he just have $X billions to Africa

Posted: 8/28/2004 9:57:53 AM EDT

[#11]

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Sounds more like Objectivism.

No it doesn't. Objectivists recognize the necessity of government to defend the individual rights of the citizenry. Objectivism is based on principles, anarchism is based on the absence of principles.

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I would disagree with this assesment. If you think Objectivism relies on the .gov I think you've missed the boat.

Posted: 8/28/2004 10:14:22 AM EDT

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an·ar·chy
1. Absence of any form of political authority.

Definition #1 is the one that I'm most interested in, and what I mean when I use the term "anarchy" or fly the black flag.

Does that mean you think abolishing the US Constitution, Federal, state and local gov'ts would be a good thing?

Posted: 8/28/2004 10:35:41 AM EDT

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Sounds more like Objectivism.

No it doesn't. Objectivists recognize the necessity of government to defend the individual rights of the citizenry. Objectivism is based on principles, anarchism is based on the absence of principles.

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I would disagree with this assesment. If you think Objectivism relies on the .gov I think you've missed the boat.

Sorry for the continued hijack, but I need to set norman74 straight:

One important difference [between Libertarianism and Objectivism] is that Objectivism holds that man needs government, whereas many libertarians do not. Freedom requires an enforceable system of adjudication that establishes, though objective principles, when force has been used and allows for the rational settlement of disputes on the basis of individual rights to life, liberty, and property. Only an institution that effectively dominates and regulates the use of force in a given geographic area can provide and enforce such a system of law. So we all need government to set us free from force.
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Against the anarchists, Ayn Rand noted that a free market functions by the free choice of the people involved. As she explained in her essay "The Nature of Government" (in the Virtue of Selfishness), free choices are choices made while free from force. The anarchists want to have their cake and eat it too: it is impossible to have market competition (or even a proper market) for the provision of the protection that frees one from force in the first place. Anarchism, in practice, would amount to civil warfare (VOS 112-113).

Posted: 8/28/2004 10:36:50 AM EDT

[#14]

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Wave I see a little quality stick time in someone's future!!

go get 'em!

heh, heh.
"stick time"

Batting cage practice

Posted: 8/28/2004 10:40:15 AM EDT

[#15]

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GROUP BUY.

I am offering PR24 baton and ASPs to LE members in the area at EXTREMELY DISCOUNTED RATES.

We will need performance evalution feedback for a manufacturer survery however.

Posted: 8/28/2004 10:51:13 AM EDT

[#16]

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an·ar·chy
1. Absence of any form of political authority.

Definition #1 is the one that I'm most interested in, and what I mean when I use the term "anarchy" or fly the black flag.
Does that mean you think abolishing the US Constitution, Federal, state and local gov'ts would be a good thing?

Idealistically? Yes. Realistically? No.

Posted: 8/28/2004 10:56:15 AM EDT

[#17]

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Anyone throwing rocks or bottles in these riots should be shot dead on sight.
If anyone were to throw rocks or bottles at my head or at the face of cop walking his beat would be committing aggravated assault or even assault with a deadly weapon - deadly force should be used in self-defense. Even more so in a mob situation.

Anyone destroying private property as part of these riots should be shot dead on sight.
Imagine if you woke up one day to find a mob of 10,000 rioters running up and down YOUR street coming to YOUR home or business kicking in windows, throwing garbage cans through your door - again, I have a right to defend my property against such a severe attack (mobs) and start shooting into the mob to defend my business or home.

"Non-violent" protestors who block traffic and refuse to move should be tazed, choked, sprayed, bound and dragged away by their heels. Or just run over.
No fucking way should ANYONE be allowed to illegally block traffic or business. What the police tolerate, they'll only get more of.

Post signs on every corner and in ten languages:

"BYSTANDERS BEWARE - ANY AND ALL VIOLENT PROTESTERS WILL BE SHOT AND KILLED ON SIGHT!!!"

That would work.

Posted: 8/28/2004 10:59:04 AM EDT

[#18]

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Anyone throwing rocks or bottles in these riots should be shot dead on sight.
If anyone were to throw rocks or bottles at my head or at the face of cop walking his beat would be committing aggravated assault or even assault with a deadly weapon - deadly force should be used in self-defense. Even more so in a mob situation.

Anyone destroying private property as part of these riots should be shot dead on sight.
Imagine if you woke up one day to find a mob of 10,000 rioters running up and down YOUR street coming to YOUR home or business kicking in windows, throwing garbage cans through your door - again, I have a right to defend my property against such a severe attack (mobs) and start shooting into the mob to defend my business or home.

"Non-violent" protestors who block traffic and refuse to move should be tazed, choked, sprayed, bound and dragged away by their heels. Or just run over.
No fucking way should ANYONE be allowed to illegally block traffic or business. What the police tolerate, they'll only get more of.

Post signs on every corner and in ten languages:

"BYSTANDERS BEWARE - ANY AND ALL VIOLENT PROTESTERS WILL BE SHOT AND KILLED ON SIGHT!!!"

I'm with The_Mac on this one

Posted: 8/28/2004 11:27:52 AM EDT

[#19]

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www.nydailynews.com/ips_rich_content/987-home0827.jpg

... Start by ceasing the butt-fucking, fags

Personal responsibility?!?!?!?

Posted: 8/28/2004 11:32:45 AM EDT

[#20]

"I was out here drinking my coffee and I saw a guy plop out the window," said David Davis, 41, a Seattle banker in town with his daughter. "People were cheering. . . . People are definitely noticing, so I guess it's working."

People are noticing, all right. They're noticing that the Democrats are a bunch of lunatics who need to be institutionalized, not elected.

Posted: 8/28/2004 11:39:15 AM EDT

[#21]

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OK, "they" started this...

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I also understand that there will most likely be attempts to mess with our personally owned vehicles. What a great way to get yourself hurt!

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This just pisses me the hell off!

A is for Abu Gharib as in ..........That's where these fuckwads belong

Posted: 8/28/2004 12:14:07 PM EDT

[#22]

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www.nydailynews.com/ips_rich_content/987-home0827.jpg

... Start by ceasing the butt-fucking, fags

Personal responsibility?!?!?!?

Actually, it is the NRA's fault.

Posted: 8/28/2004 3:23:39 PM EDT

[#23]

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an·ar·chy
1. Absence of any form of political authority.

Definition #1 is the one that I'm most interested in, and what I mean when I use the term "anarchy" or fly the black flag.
Does that mean you think abolishing the US Constitution, Federal, state and local gov'ts would be a good thing?
Idealistically? Yes. Realistically? No.

So if you're not REALLY in favor of implementing the anarchist philosophy, then why advocate it at all?

Posted: 8/28/2004 4:18:32 PM EDT

[#24]

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Anyone throwing rocks or bottles in these riots should be shot dead on sight.
If anyone were to throw rocks or bottles at my head or at the face of cop walking his beat would be committing aggravated assault or even assault with a deadly weapon - deadly force should be used in self-defense. Even more so in a mob situation.

Anyone destroying private property as part of these riots should be shot dead on sight.
Imagine if you woke up one day to find a mob of 10,000 rioters running up and down YOUR street coming to YOUR home or business kicking in windows, throwing garbage cans through your door - again, I have a right to defend my property against such a severe attack (mobs) and start shooting into the mob to defend my business or home.

"Non-violent" protestors who block traffic and refuse to move should be tazed, choked, sprayed, bound and dragged away by their heels. Or just run over.
No fucking way should ANYONE be allowed to illegally block traffic or business. What the police tolerate, they'll only get more of.

Post signs on every corner and in ten languages:

"BYSTANDERS BEWARE - ANY AND ALL VIOLENT PROTESTERS WILL BE SHOT AND KILLED ON SIGHT!!!"

I'm with The_Mac on this one

Me too

Posted: 8/28/2004 4:35:22 PM EDT

[#25]

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an·ar·chy
1. Absence of any form of political authority.

Definition #1 is the one that I'm most interested in, and what I mean when I use the term "anarchy" or fly the black flag.
Does that mean you think abolishing the US Constitution, Federal, state and local gov'ts would be a good thing?
Idealistically? Yes. Realistically? No.
So if you're not REALLY in favor of implementing the anarchist philosophy, then why advocate it at all?

Enough hijack already. How about starting another thread for this? I would like to keep up with what's happening with Wave and his crowd.

Posted: 8/28/2004 4:49:40 PM EDT

[#26]

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an·ar·chy
1. Absence of any form of political authority.

Definition #1 is the one that I'm most interested in, and what I mean when I use the term "anarchy" or fly the black flag.
Does that mean you think abolishing the US Constitution, Federal, state and local gov'ts would be a good thing?
Idealistically? Yes. Realistically? No.
So if you're not REALLY in favor of implementing the anarchist philosophy, then why advocate it at all?
Enough hijack already. How about starting another thread for this? I would like to keep up with what's happening with Wave and his crowd.

Hmm... that's strange.

I thought this thread was about "anarchy".

Whatever gave me that crazy idea?

Posted: 8/28/2004 5:13:54 PM EDT

[#27]

Tagged

Posted: 8/28/2004 5:18:28 PM EDT

[#28]

One in custody

Posted: 8/28/2004 5:21:50 PM EDT

[#29]

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One in custody

www.smsmania.it/fotostrane/police.JPG

I don't know, I don't see his giant puppet and the grooming is a little too neat.

Posted: 8/28/2004 5:30:32 PM EDT

[#30]

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One in custody

www.smsmania.it/fotostrane/police.JPG

Not a fan of police brutality......but I hate clowns even more. Taser that grease painted scumbag & give him some stick time afterwards.

Posted: 8/28/2004 5:41:53 PM EDT

[#31]

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Our local coppers have way nicer cars than you guys.

they probably get paid alot more too

How much might that be?

I'm pulling $20.59 an hour......

In New York, you would live in your car for that kind of money.

thats actually about a dollar more an hour than I make with 2 yrs in NYPD......

Posted: 8/28/2004 5:52:05 PM EDT

[#32]

Quoted:

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Get a job
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GET A JOB, YOU LAZY SOD!!!

Posted: 8/28/2004 5:57:30 PM EDT

[#33]

Whata Panzy

Ben

Posted: 8/28/2004 6:00:44 PM EDT

[#34]

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an·ar·chy
1. Absence of any form of political authority.

Definition #1 is the one that I'm most interested in, and what I mean when I use the term "anarchy" or fly the black flag.
Does that mean you think abolishing the US Constitution, Federal, state and local gov'ts would be a good thing?
Idealistically? Yes. Realistically? No.
So if you're not REALLY in favor of implementing the anarchist philosophy, then why advocate it at all?

I was actually just trying to give you a short answer and move along because I don't think it's the point of this thread. I didn't realize you were just trolling for a debate. Start another thread and let me know and we'll have at it. As it stands I've hijacked this one enough and won't be discussing it anymore here.

Posted: 8/28/2004 6:32:59 PM EDT

[#35]

Bush should have had the convention in Dallas.

Ten minutes into breaking windows and blocking roads, the protestors would think they were in Beirut.

On a less wishful note...

If you New York folks could manage to crush a testicle or two, I'm sure the gene pool would thank you for it.

Posted: 8/29/2004 4:40:47 AM EDT

[#36]

Posted: 8/29/2004 4:58:39 AM EDT

[#37]

Tagged.

Get some, Wave.

Posted: 8/29/2004 5:33:09 AM EDT

[#38]

the little shits didn't want to play with us in Boston.
Maybe we were over dressed.

Posted: 8/29/2004 5:44:48 AM EDT

[#39]

Riot training was always fun.

Posted: 8/29/2004 5:49:58 AM EDT

[#40]

Stay safe and get some for me!

Posted: 8/29/2004 5:51:12 AM EDT

[#41]

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Riot training was always fun.

glen.dodgedakotas.com/john/John1.jpg

ROFL! My very first guard drill when I was 18yo was riot control training. We were trucked to the county fairgrounds, split up into rioters and uniformed Guardsmen, and drilled on moving as a line, isolating leaders, etc. There were a few bruises and bloody noses by the end of the day.

We also got to shoot knee-knockers and beanbags out of an M-79 grenade launcher.

Incidentally, that was my first taste of Army chow - nasty chili over rice.

Ah, the fall of '84...

Posted: 8/29/2004 6:16:50 AM EDT

[#42]

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One in custody

www.smsmania.it/fotostrane/police.JPG

Not a fan of police brutality......but I hate clowns even more. Taser that grease painted scumbag & give him some stick time afterwards.

too bad it wasn't a mime...

Posted: 8/29/2004 7:05:59 AM EDT

[#43]

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an·ar·chy
1. Absence of any form of political authority.

Definition #1 is the one that I'm most interested in, and what I mean when I use the term "anarchy" or fly the black flag.
Does that mean you think abolishing the US Constitution, Federal, state and local gov'ts would be a good thing?
Idealistically? Yes. Realistically? No.
So if you're not REALLY in favor of implementing the anarchist philosophy, then why advocate it at all?
Enough hijack already. How about starting another thread for this? I would like to keep up with what's happening with Wave and his crowd.
Hmm... that's strange.

I thought this thread was about "anarchy".

Whatever gave me that crazy idea?

RNC-NYC 2004. "A" is for Anarchy(Updated Daily)

Lack of attention to detail, perhaps?

Posted: 8/29/2004 9:33:21 AM EDT

[#44]

With the reported "schedule" for today (Sunday), Wave needs to stay safe, and come back with some Cool Pix and stories!

Oh, you other NYPD types: Stay Safe Too!

Don't break your flashlights while trying to "help" a guy decide which way to go!

Posted: 8/29/2004 9:37:46 AM EDT

[#45]

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an·ar·chy
1. Absence of any form of political authority.

Definition #1 is the one that I'm most interested in, and what I mean when I use the term "anarchy" or fly the black flag.
Does that mean you think abolishing the US Constitution, Federal, state and local gov'ts would be a good thing?
Idealistically? Yes. Realistically? No.
So if you're not REALLY in favor of implementing the anarchist philosophy, then why advocate it at all?
Enough hijack already. How about starting another thread for this? I would like to keep up with what's happening with Wave and his crowd.
Hmm... that's strange.

I thought this thread was about "anarchy".

Whatever gave me that crazy idea?

RNC-NYC 2004."A" is for Anarchy(Updated Daily)

Lack of attention to detail, perhaps?

There, now go finish fucking your dog you shit-for-brains asshole!

Posted: 8/29/2004 9:58:15 AM EDT

[#46]

tag

Posted: 8/29/2004 9:59:57 AM EDT

[#47]

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www.fallonems.com/100_2048.JPG
the little shits didn't want to play with us in Boston.
Maybe we were over dressed.

That almost looks like a screen capture from Starship Troopers

Posted: 8/29/2004 10:08:17 AM EDT

[#48]

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www.fallonems.com/100_2048.JPG
the little shits didn't want to play with us in Boston.
Maybe we were over dressed.

That almost looks like a screen capture from Starship Troopers

Impressive pic, nonetheless.

Posted: 8/29/2004 10:15:15 AM EDT

[#49]

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www.fallonems.com/100_2048.JPG
the little shits didn't want to play with us in Boston.
Maybe we were over dressed.
That almost looks like a screen capture from Starship Troopers
Impressive pic, nonetheless.

Good guys wear black.

Posted: 8/29/2004 10:16:49 AM EDT

[#50]

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There, now go finish fucking your dog you shit-for-brains asshole!

IBTL. Nice CoC violation there, Mac. Way to get Wave's thread locked.

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