...eating some peanuts right now!
...my allergy doc told me i was allergic to them and tha i shouldnt eat them...

..i dont go to the allergy doctor anymore...

mmmm peanutty goodness
(the lunch staple of my youth)

OMFG!!! You are too??? I'll bet alot of us are, but where is the gubmint trying to help us. BAN WORK NOW!!!!!!!!

(just kidding, but I need to find a job. Unemployment sucks.... and I haven't applied for unemployment yet....)

Of course you don't need milk if you have no PB&J. Nothing to get stuck to the roof of your mouth.
I just wonder if they are gonna ban the PB&J Otter cartoon, just to cover all the PB7J bases....

"Noodle, Use your noodle".......

Ten to one that school has a soft drink machine in the cafeteria.  So instead of the normals drinking milk which is good for them, they get to guzzle caffeinated sugar drinks (keeping the big soda concerns happy) that will rot their teeth (keeping the dentist concerns happy), and allow the docs to diagnose them with AD/HD, and sell Ritalin (keeping the pharmeceutical concerns happy) while simultaneously destroying the kids' livers and kidneys (keeping the surgeon concerns happy).  Of course, the health failures of so many future adults will cause health insurance to rise to astronomic levels, leading people to push for governmentalized health care (keeping the liberal/socialist elite happy).  Don't you just love it when an evil liberal plan comes together!!??

Don't forget the tax revenu raised by the soda machines with the "fat tax" they are trying to pass in Cali...

I am sorry your niece has this problem,  but that should not rob my child and others of something they enjoy.  Hell for alot of picky kids you have a very narrow selection in the first place and now you would tell me to narrow it some more.  As I see it,  if you are alergic to something,  don't eat it or drink it or whatever.  And as far as I know peanut butter has no dust,  unless it is REALLY past the expiration date.
As for the genetic problems that are getting worse all over the world,  I think it will only get worse.  I heard a scientist one night explain that evolution has stopped because nature evolves to overcome it's problem in it's environment.  We fix a problem or come up with a solution to a problem before nature has a chance to evolve through the problem.  (hope that made sense) So I believe that we are seeing the beginning of de-evolution.  Just a passing thought.

Is your niece incapable of understanding she shouldn't eat peanuts??

Buckaroo...you are way over the top on this.  I don’t think any of us here are in fear of a government conspiracy to ban peanut butter.  That’s not the issue.  The issue is the runaway power hungry school administrators who try to morph their jobs into those of elected federal/state/local legislators or members of the bench.  We have enough of a problem with THEIR goofy governance, we damn well don’t need some from hucksters like this woman.

From a technical standpoint, unless the allergic children come into direct contact with the peanut butter, there is virtually no chance that they will react.  The most likely source of a reaction would normally be peanut dust, an unlikely occurrence in a school environment.  Creating a separate eating area was probably a good idea in this case.

I am disturbed by the constant “victimology” rants by these flaming liberals who want to grant special accords, rights and privileges to every possible “victim” group within our society.  This school principal’s bio as described by others here did not surprise me in the least.  She and her ilk are not going to stop at this either.  This is a constant refrain from the leftist crusaders who want to control our society with their cockamamie ideas.

I am WELL aware of the problems associated with allergies and allergic reactions.  FYI, I am and have been allergic to about two-dozen types of flora and fauna commonly found in our daily environment.  Everything from cat dander to trees, weeds, lawn grasses and a host of other things swirling around me all the time.  For over ten years I received two painful shots each month…one in each shoulder, then sat in the clinic for half an hour for the medicos to make sure I didn’t go into cardiac arrest.  My daughter in law is allergic to shellfish; my grandson is allergic to a host of things also (no doubt inherited from us), but as of yet undefined.  He’s only three and we haven’t taken him to our allergist yet.  As you can see, I’m not totally ignorant of this problem.  I KNOW what it is to have bad allergic reactions to something…so calm your hysterical rants.  Ad hominem attacks serve no purpose and erode your argument.

Having said that, I stand by my earlier words.

Sic Semper Tyrannis!

How am I over the top?

These kids are required by law to attend school. This particular school has students that have a severe allergy to peanuts. Severe enough where there lives could actually be in danger.

Wouldn't you really feel like shit if you sent YOUR kid to school with a PB&J sandwich and it ended up KILLING another child???

It seems a sensible thing for the school district to do. They have to protect the children that are entrusted to their care. I wonder what the posts here would look like if a child died there and the school district's response was "Ah, Hell. It was just a little Peanut Butter !!"

Just offer free, school-administered peanut allergy testing.  Line all the kids up in the cafeteria.  Give each a hadful of peanuts to eat.  The ones that drop are reassigned to special classes out in the "David The Bubble Boy Allergy Wing".  

Just kidding.  Yes, I know it's probably not nice to make fun of the little mutants.

Darwin Rules!!!!

Kinda sounds like the anti-gunners doesn't it DoubleFeed.  No proof and wild, unsubstantiated, emotional statements.

Well.... It's my opinion that society in general is De-Evolving because of medical progress.

But that isn't why I find this topic so amazing. There are countless other posts on this board where people are talking about things to protect children. What they would do to the child molesters, the kiddie porn guys, the abusive parents and deadbeat dads. Everyone jumps up and down screaming how they would PROTECT these kids. Then someone says that a school is banning peanut butter in order to protect the allergic kids they have and everybody here is saying "fuck the little retards" and "I'd paint the walls with peanut butter".  

Christ !!! talk about an unexpected response !  Apparently everyone will do whatever necessary to protect children, unless they have to give up their PB&J !!!

[rolleyes]


edited to fix spelling

Yup...that's it exactly.

Buckaroo; I repeat my demand to you and those ass-clowns in Cobb County:  Show me the evidence.  I want to see the MD's reports on those kids.  I want to see the proof that they are going to have a "severe allergic attack" if they are in close proximity to peanut butter.  Until I have the proof, it's nothing more than liberal argle bargle.

Take just a minute to think about what you stated above:  "...This particular school has students that have a severe allergy to peanuts. Severe enough where there lives could actually be in danger."  What makes this school so special?  Why does this school have students with this condition but apparently other schools do not...even in Cobb County!  IF this was as severe a problem as that principal and you allude to, I suspect that soccer moms all over the country, (And grumpy grandpas too...like me who happens to be raising two of his grandkids.) would be up in arms over this.  This is a bunch of Chicken Little BS.  

Finally, to answer your question about being over the top...go back and read your first posting.  Your ad hominem attack on those of us skeptics who smell a liberal rat is what put you over the top when you called us a bunch of insentive bastards.  I suspect that most of us here are good and faithful fathers and grandfathers.  You know not one of us well enough to make such an accusation as you did in your first posting.  [pissed]

killing a molester is punishing someone for their action

banning pbj is punishing non-allergic kids for something they haven't done

similar to this: we would have no crime if everyone were locked into solitary confinement prison cells, think of the lives it would save.

This is sad!!! Some of you should educate yourselves a little more.  Regretfully  peanuts  Don’t cause A LITTLE SNEEZE, A LITTLE RASH, ARE A BIG SNEEZE, unlike pollen or common dust. It causes the worst kind of adverse reaction that a person could have. An  Anaphylactic reaction is rapid causing  Swelling of the throat, lips, or tongue  Difficulty breathing or swallowing , Collapse and if not treated STAT it is fatal.  

Regretfully, peanuts are [b]oily and the oil itself  can cause a Toxic effect.[/b]   I don’t think they should eliminate peanuts from every school but , if there is a child that has that type of allergy, ( an is more common than stated in the article) Then yes some consideration should be taken.  I wouldn’t want to be the Smart ass Parent that sends my kid to school with a bag of peanuts and have a little girl die.

You dont have to eat the stuff to die from it!!!!

OK. Fair enough. If it's that a parent just called up the school and said "little Susie can't be around peanuts" then fine. I agree with you. My argument is coming from the assumption that this is a documented medical condition. There is medical proof of allergies so severe as to cause death. If that is what this is, then the school SHOULD act to protect the kids that attend there.

And as for the attack, I apologize. I will admit I made a mistake. I do not know if you are all insensitive bastards or not. I will say however, that I was surprised at some of the responses to the initial post. That doesn't justify name calling though, so again, I apologize.

Osprey what kind of work do you do?

I have responded to many schools mostly 1st-3rd graders. Some of them were very critical and some were just a rash. What needs to be done is have the nurse allowed to give epi injections to these children. That is if airway compromise is taking affect. Sometimes Benadryl also works but quick intervention is needed.

Some people become allergic later in life. I have never had anyone die from it, but there were some close calls. Should it be banned No. once the educators are aware you keep the child away at lunch. The problem is if another kid doesn't wash their hands and plays with the kid it could be a problem.

I also don't understand why so many kids are getting reactions. Could it be that they are given PB before their systems are able to build resistance to it.  

I agree with you. I read a paper on it a while back, and that was one of theories. Parents don’t want to deal with their kid and take the time to feed them, so they just slap PB on a slice of bread, and “ Here shut up” . If I recall, according to the paper children should start having PB at 6 or so because of some enzyme that the body produces  at that age that digest protein better.  Sorry I cant be specific, that’s all I remember

Apology accepted.  You earned my respect for your kind words.

A recommendation if I may:  Don't ASSUME a damn thing when dealing with liberals.  Be skeptical.  Search for hidden agendas.  Why IS this the only school reporting this problem?

I am NOT arguing the reality of the danger to those who have an allergic reaction to PB...remember, as I stated, I too am allergic to many things in the environment (Though thankfully no foods!) and I am WELL aware of the dangers of anaphylactic shock.  Having said that (again)...I still say, show me the proof.  Until the MDs and the local health department come forward with the evidence...this remains a BS issue.  And then, if the case can be made, I would not punish the other kids.  Have the allergic kids eat away from the rest of the kids.  I KNOW...this is sure to draw fire!
[argue]

Really?  I had no idea you have my resume and my medical recored in your possession!  Refresh my memory...what does it say about my education?  No education about allergies?  I who have been under a doctor's care for allergies for most of my life?  No kidding!  Wow...you ARE sharp!  News to me.

Moron...?  Surely you can do better than that?  How about "WHITEMALERACISTSEXISTBIGOTHOMOPHOBE" while you're at it?  That sounds a lot better!



Did you mean to say an MD's report?
Why would THOSE children be any different than any other children of like ages, living in similar communities across America?  Why is this not a widespread problem nationwide?



And what would the metric be of which you speak?  What does this...2.5 represent?  2.5 kids...2.5 thousand people of the world wide population, 2.5 million here in America, or is it a per cent maybe...and if so of what?



Fine.  Insult duly noted, no apology requested.  Your words immediately classify you.  Since you're a newbie to this site, I recommend you go read the rules.  Ad hominem attacks taken too far will simply get you excommunicated.  When I read your remarks, I thought of a few pithy phrases cleverly designed to raise the entropy level of this thread...then I decided you weren't worth the effort.  You might have needed some epinephrine.  [}:D]

Make your case!  Tossing around insults and posting informative sites that most of us who are plagued with allergies have already researched in detail does not accomplish what I think you're trying to do.

If it's just my pedantic, overbearing, know-it-all CONSERVATIVE MALE attitude that you have a problem with...TOUGH SHIT LADY!

Smoochies!!!  [;D]

Just have to ask the question..... Being as most fried foods are fried in PEANUT oil, does it mean the little darlings can't eat fried food either?

Well guys,

I've got something to tell you. Peanut alergies were simply unreported for many years.

I am 34 and have been alergic to peanuts [b]ALL[/b] of my life. It was so extreme that once, when I was about 3, my skin had shed (NO JOKING) and the doctors at the hospital (Fort MacArthor) had never seen such a sever reaction they wanted to fly my to D.C so I could be seen there. I had to soak in the bathtub with these big tablets (I don't know what they were) mixed in to the water.

My kids are also alergic to peanuts.

Now in my case, the dust didn't bother me but only from consumption or contact with peanut oil.

My kids are lucky that they have Benedryl as I did not have this as a kid. They were given sandwiches in pre-school (which we told them NOT to do in writing) luckily it wasn't life threatening or i'd have one or to fewer kids.

i think the increase in allergies is part of a government/drug-company conspiracy


the gov flies big plains around spraying chemicals that make us allergic to things (chemtrails)

the drug companies advertise and sell drugs to treat the new problem, and send money to the gov goons providing the spraying

In some cases, yes.

In my case some foods which contain peanut oil tend to make me itch a bit more than usual but not terribly.

I loved "Twix" bars but they used to make me itch quite a bit. It seems to have tapered off some in recent years though.