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Posted: 7/15/2022 4:56:58 PM EDT
Not considering semi-auto cartridges like .380, 9x19mm, or .45 ACP.
Only modern cartidges I can think of that didn't originate as black powder cartridges are the Add the .41 Magnum, .414 Supermag, and .357 Maximum .357 Magnum .38 Special - 1898 black powder round  Charter Arms Pink Lady gave it up to a probable double load. https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/2569203_Blowout-at-the-range-not-mine-dead-revolver.html |
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Posted: 7/15/2022 5:00:31 PM EDT
[#1]
41 magnum.
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Posted: 7/15/2022 5:03:07 PM EDT
[#2]
460SW
454Casull For the above. They are magnums that we’re stretched from black powder loads. But their development is as smokeless 22hornet |
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Posted: 7/15/2022 5:05:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 460SW 454Casull For the above. They are magnums that we’re stretched from black powder loads. But their development is as smokeless 22hornet First two are descended from .45 Colt, so out of play. |
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Posted: 7/15/2022 5:06:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 41 magnum. Solid. Had forgotten. @The_Dog |
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Posted: 7/15/2022 5:08:31 PM EDT
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Guessing S&W .460 and .500
Quoted: Not considering semi-auto cartridges like .380, 9x19mm, or .45 ACP. Only modern cartidges I can think of that didn't originate as black powder cartridges are the .480 Ruger and the .500 loads. .357 Maximum .357 Magnum .38 Special - 1898 black powder round https://i.imgur.com/xLwsq6m.jpg Charter Arms Pink Lady gave it up to a probable double load. https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/2569203_Blowout-at-the-range-not-mine-dead-revolver.html |
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Posted: 7/15/2022 5:08:38 PM EDT
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.44 Special and .44 Magnum were both designed to use smokeless powder from the start.
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Posted: 7/15/2022 5:12:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: .44 Special and .44 Magnum were both designed to use smokeless powder from the start. So was the .357 Magnum. Both .44s you list come from the .44 Russian. |
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Posted: 7/15/2022 5:14:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: .44 Special and .44 Magnum were both designed to use smokeless powder from the start. Came from 44 Russian which came from 44 S&W I'd say all of them came from BP ancestors. OPs question might be better put as : Which revolver cartridges were never BP? |
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Posted: 7/15/2022 5:15:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Came from 44 Russian which came from 44 S&W I'd say all of them came from BP ancestors. OPs question might be better put as : Which revolver cartridges were never BP? I've put the exceptions in the OP. We have 3 under 50 cal so far. |
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Posted: 7/15/2022 5:16:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: .44 Special and .44 Magnum were both designed to use smokeless powder from the start. The “Special” designation indicates that a cartridge can be loaded with either black or smokeless powder. Back in the day, there were factory .44 Specials loaded with the new fangled jacketed bullets and black powder. |
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Posted: 7/15/2022 5:33:12 PM EDT
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If you want to be really technical - The 480 Ruger is a shortened version of the 475 Linebaugh.
The 475 Linebaugh was originally made from shortened 45-70 cases. The 45-70 was introduced in 1873 as a black powder cartridge. |
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Posted: 7/15/2022 5:34:16 PM EDT
[#12]
.327 Federal.
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Posted: 7/15/2022 5:40:34 PM EDT
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Maybe 7.62x38R? I'm not sure what they loaded originally but by that time it might have been just smokeless.
Also the 7.5x28R Swiss Ordnance was loaded with black powder until the 1960's. |
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Posted: 7/15/2022 5:42:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: .327 Federal. Descended from .32 S&W Long, 1896 black powder. |
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Posted: 7/15/2022 5:44:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you want to be really technical - The 480 Ruger is a shortened version of the 475 Linebaugh. The 475 Linebaugh was originally made from shortened 45-70 cases. The 45-70 was introduced in 1873 as a black powder cartridge. Oooh. Did not know that. It's a .45-70 Special? |
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Posted: 7/15/2022 5:46:01 PM EDT
[#16]
.500 JRH?
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Posted: 7/15/2022 5:47:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: .500 JRH? Think we're good there. And .500 S&W. |
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Posted: 7/15/2022 5:48:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: .44 Special and .44 Magnum were both designed to use smokeless powder from the start. Descended from 44 Russian which is black powder. |
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Posted: 7/15/2022 5:49:36 PM EDT
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Is .22 WMR considered a revolver cartridge?
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Posted: 7/15/2022 5:52:26 PM EDT
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.22 Magnum
.22 Remington Jet 9mm Federal .375 Super Mag (Arguable since it was derived from. 375 Winchester, which was a modernization of 38-55) |
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Posted: 7/15/2022 5:53:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is .22 WMR considered a revolver cartridge? I have a revolver that shoots them |
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Posted: 7/15/2022 5:54:24 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/15/2022 5:57:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: .22 Magnum .22 Remington Jet 9mm Federal .375 Super Mag (Arguable since it was derived from. 375 Winchester, which was a modernization of 38-55) .22 WMR is a stretched .22 WRF, which I think was the last black powder rimfire, happy to be wrong. .22 Jet is a necked down .357, from the black powder .38 Special. 9mm Federal, fair, but it and the .45 Auto Rim are both from semi-auto cartridges. |
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Posted: 7/15/2022 5:59:59 PM EDT
[#24]
30 Carbine.
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Posted: 7/15/2022 6:02:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 30 Carbine. See 1st line of OP. |
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Posted: 7/15/2022 6:25:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: .22 WMR is a stretched .22 WRF, which I think was the last black powder rimfire, happy to be wrong. .22 Jet is a necked down .357, from the black powder .38 Special. 9mm Federal, fair, but it and the .45 Auto Rim are both from semi-auto cartridges. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: .22 Magnum .22 Remington Jet 9mm Federal .375 Super Mag (Arguable since it was derived from. 375 Winchester, which was a modernization of 38-55) .22 WMR is a stretched .22 WRF, which I think was the last black powder rimfire, happy to be wrong. .22 Jet is a necked down .357, from the black powder .38 Special. 9mm Federal, fair, but it and the .45 Auto Rim are both from semi-auto cartridges. |
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Posted: 7/15/2022 6:39:16 PM EDT
[#27]
No BP, but PO Ackley does have a triplex loading for .454 in his Handbook for Shooters and Handloaders which just reading it scares me.
 
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Posted: 7/15/2022 6:46:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No BP, but PO Ackley does have a triplex loading for .454 in his Handbook for Shooters and Handloaders which just reading it scares me. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/103648/IMG_0244_JPG-2454059.jpg That's how .454 got started. |
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Posted: 7/15/2022 6:47:07 PM EDT
[#29]
.221 Fireball for the REM XP-100
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Posted: 7/15/2022 6:47:50 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you want to be really technical - The 480 Ruger is a shortened version of the 475 Linebaugh. The 475 Linebaugh was originally made from shortened 45-70 cases. The 45-70 was introduced in 1873 as a black powder cartridge. Came here to say this. |
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Posted: 7/15/2022 6:48:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: .221 Fireball for the REM XP-100 Concentrate. We're talking about revolvers here, not bolt action pistols. |
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Posted: 7/15/2022 7:24:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Solid. Had forgotten. @The_Dog Since the .41 is a relatively young round (1 year younger than me), I'm not surprised that it's not from a black powder parent. |
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Posted: 7/15/2022 7:52:28 PM EDT
[#33]
I think we can add the .414 SuperMag.
Not a well known cartridge, or successful, but it qualifies. |
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Posted: 7/15/2022 8:57:12 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think we can add the .414 SuperMag. Not a well known cartridge, or successful, but it qualifies. Think you're correct. We're on a roll now! |
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Posted: 7/15/2022 8:58:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Since the .41 is a relatively young round (1 year younger than me), I'm not surprised that it's not from a black powder parent. Given that you clearly robbed the cradle, I'm not so sure... |
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Posted: 7/15/2022 9:07:48 PM EDT
[#36]
30 Carbine.
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Posted: 7/15/2022 9:08:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is .22 WMR considered a revolver cartridge? origins is the 22 which was black powder. |
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Posted: 7/15/2022 9:11:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 30 Carbine. How can you have been a member from the beginning if you can't read? |
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Posted: 7/15/2022 11:29:19 PM EDT
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.600 Nitro Express.
 Hey, the Pfeiffer-Zeliska revolver shoots it |
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Posted: 7/15/2022 11:30:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you want to be really technical - The 480 Ruger is a shortened version of the 475 Linebaugh. The 475 Linebaugh was originally made from shortened 45-70 cases. The 45-70 was introduced in 1873 as a black powder cartridge. I came here to post this
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Posted: 7/15/2022 11:34:05 PM EDT
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Are there any necked down .50 caliber revolver cartridges?
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Posted: 7/16/2022 12:00:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Given that you clearly robbed the cradle, I'm not so sure... I'll tell the wife you said that. It will be good for her ego. Even though she has 6 years on me.  |
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Posted: 7/16/2022 12:12:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are there any necked down .50 caliber revolver cartridges? Generally it's not a great idea to have a bottleneck cartridge for a revolver. It can easily jam the casehead against the breech and prevent rotation. |
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Posted: 7/16/2022 12:56:26 AM EDT
[#44]
.30 carbine (in the Ruger Blackhawk).
.256 Winchester Magnum (in the Ruger Hawkeye). |
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Posted: 7/16/2022 12:57:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How can you have been a member from the beginning if you can't read? Riter is correct and you are incorrect. See my post above. |
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Posted: 7/16/2022 1:06:28 AM EDT
[#46]
.256 Winchester
I thought the .41RM was based on an older cartridge? .41 long Colt? |
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Posted: 7/16/2022 1:08:25 AM EDT
[#47]
Let's add the .22 Jet in the S&W revolver.
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Posted: 7/16/2022 1:13:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Generally it's not a great idea to have a bottleneck cartridge for a revolver. It can easily jam the casehead against the breech and prevent rotation. A bunch of 44-40, 38-40 and 32-20 revolvers work just fine, as do a bunch of wildcats. The .22 Jet (where the whole bottleneck revolver cartridge bad thing started) had legitimate issues, but it was almost like it was designed to fail. |
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Posted: 7/16/2022 1:21:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Descended from .32 S&W Long, 1896 black powder. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: .327 Federal. Descended from .32 S&W Long, 1896 black powder. If we’re going to skip generations or whatever and play it that way, then all cartridges are descended from black powder. |
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Posted: 7/16/2022 1:33:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Let's add the .22 Jet in the S&W revolver. Nope. Scroll up. |
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