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Posted: 11/9/2022 11:12:21 AM EDT
[#1]
Oh man this really messes with my plans to move there. Just kidding.
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Posted: 11/9/2022 11:12:56 AM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes to all of this. Two wolves and a sheep and all of that. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 11:22:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This ballot measure demonstrates how evil "democracy" is: around half the people in the state are plotting to egregiously violate the rights of the other half. Democracy is a form of slavery, which is why this nation was founded as a constitutional republic by some of the smartest, bravest men to ever live. Yup. Democracy is mob rule by the majority. It's why the founders set up a representative republic instead. Everyone has the same inalienable rights. The majority cannot take them away even through "voting". The problem is that due to human nature, the morally upstanding (most of which are conservatives) will always be outnumbered by the selfish, the immoral, the hedonistic, and the ignorant (which most libs are). This is why under a pure democracy conservatives can never win and why the left wants to move us that way. This is why dims love to crow about "muh democracy" and appeal to the immoral and the lowest common denominator, and have no problem with illegals pouring into the country and being granted citizenship because they are ignorant and vote D. The time where voting does anything is over. This is a battle of good vs evil for this country. We better get ready for what's coming if we want to have any chance to save it. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 11:44:12 AM EDT
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Pretty sure this is a Bruen/Heller smack down.
they should be putting a stay on it after the first legal challenge. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 11:44:50 AM EDT
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There are still guns in Oregon? I thought it was all weed brownies, peace, love, and hugs up in the PacificNW.
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Posted: 11/9/2022 11:46:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: lolz "move to a free state" they said.  Quote HistoryQuoted: lolz "move to a free state" they said. Quoted: Move to a free state…… Oh wait….. Yup 
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Posted: 11/9/2022 11:47:47 AM EDT
[#7]
EE is ready made for Oregonians to get what they want.
I've sold mags to people in some states.  Help your brothers and sisters. It's the American way. Laws mean squat anymore. It is proven day in and day out. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 11:50:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: EE is ready made for Oregonians to get what they want. I've sold mags to people in some states. Help your brothers and sisters. It's the American way. Laws mean squat anymore. It is proven day in and day out. TROOF! 
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Posted: 11/9/2022 11:57:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Conservative lawyers (if there are any) never sue. All the Right does is whine, bitch, and roll over. Not much of a court watcher? |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 12:03:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There are still guns in Oregon? I thought it was all weed brownies, peace, love, and hugs up in the PacificNW. There are still steers in Texas? I thought it was all….. Oregon is a big place, once you get away from the I-5 corridor from Portland to Eugene it’s radically different, especially East of the cascade mountains. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 12:13:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There are still steers in Texas? I thought it was all….. Oregon is a big place, once you get away from the I-5 corridor from Portland to Eugene it’s radically different, especially East of the cascade mountains. It's full of good people, and lots of blue collar timber industry, same as here in E Tx. Our current governor lost all the big urban counties to Beto last night, luckily the rest of the state came thru. Texas can't talk shit. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 12:19:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The bill was rushed through the ballot approval process, had questionable verification of signatures that were amassed last minute, then had a title and summary that were written with extreme bias. This was all then sponsored by out of state billionaires with a funding disparity of like 10,000:1. We had zero help from anyone. A completely unorganized grass roots counter attack that amounted to some yard signs and a bumbling "muh rights" rant on TV. Gun shops and ranges posted flyers, as well as places like Sportsman's and Cabelas sending out e-mails, but that's like preaching to the choir. All that and we're 'only' going to lose by like 5-10k votes by the time the week is over. 5-10k votes will effectively kill gun sales in the state of Oregon forever. No gun shops will survive this. While we're stuck in limbo with this BS, they'll force the other half of their plan through our state congress banning "assault" weapons. So no one will be able to panic buy on the leadup to their next ban, which will ban nearly every semi automatic in existence. I'm leaving this shithole the first chance I get. Even if by some miracle this doesn't pass, they'll keep trying. That is exactly how they pushed I-1639 on us. Bloomberg and his cronies have focused their attention, and more importantly their ability to purchase legislation, on your state for the time being, now that they've ruined ours. They out spent us on 1639 by a factor of 10. All y'all in "free" states, act smug while you can. They will pick us off one at a time. If your state has a referendum or initiative process it will be used against you. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 12:20:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pay money to exercise a constitutional right? The courts should save us but I will not count on it. WA courts ignored egregious constitutional violations to allow 1639 on the ballot |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 12:22:20 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There are still steers in Texas? I thought it was all….. Oregon is a big place, once you get away from the I-5 corridor from Portland to Eugene it’s radically different, especially East of the cascade mountains. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: There are still guns in Oregon? I thought it was all weed brownies, peace, love, and hugs up in the PacificNW. There are still steers in Texas? I thought it was all….. Oregon is a big place, once you get away from the I-5 corridor from Portland to Eugene it’s radically different, especially East of the cascade mountains. I admit ignorance - my only experience in Oregon is having to travel to the Portland area a few times and driving in from NoCal. All I saw were grungy hippies. Don’t ask me about my trips to Seattle - they were worse. It’s entirely possible that once you get away from the cities people are better. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 12:26:14 PM EDT
[#15]
How is the weather in Texas? Might be heading there after last night.
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Posted: 11/9/2022 12:27:27 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I admit ignorance - my only experience in Oregon is having to travel to the Portland area a few times and driving in from NoCal. All I saw were grungy hippies. Don’t ask me about my trips to Seattle - they were worse. How were your trips to Seattle?  I agree with the posters who say the move to a free state argument is horseshit. Oregon and Washington were free until fairly recently. Same with Colorado. Which state is next? |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 12:37:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How were your trips to Seattle? I agree with the posters who say the move to a free state argument is horseshit. Oregon and Washington were free until fairly recently. Same with Colorado. Which state is next? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I admit ignorance - my only experience in Oregon is having to travel to the Portland area a few times and driving in from NoCal. All I saw were grungy hippies. Don’t ask me about my trips to Seattle - they were worse. How were your trips to Seattle? I agree with the posters who say the move to a free state argument is horseshit. Oregon and Washington were free until fairly recently. Same with Colorado. Which state is next? I'm sitting in a generally red county in a blue state. My responses are a heartfelt "Fuck you, no." I'm vocal with asking why, and insisting that the .gov (people) explain why any restrictions need to be in place, rather than justifying why we "should" have rights. It's called personal responsibility. Of course most I know hated what the current governor did during the collective 'Rona freakout (constant freedom restriction) but have apparently forgiven the shithead for that, or actually want to be governed harder, daddy. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 12:43:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There are still guns in Oregon? I thought it was all weed brownies, peace, love, and hugs up in the PacificNW. People should really take those coexist bumper stickers seriously and try to do that….weed and guns together at the same time don’t mix, and I personally think weed is really bad for your health from my personal experience the few times I tried it and watching others smoke it, but I also know it’s not my place to try and force others to abstain from it. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 12:44:16 PM EDT
[#19]
WA state says, Hold my beer!
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Posted: 11/9/2022 12:47:53 PM EDT
[#20]
At least no elected Sheriff will enforce this outside of Route 5 corridor and maybe Hood River and Bend.
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Posted: 11/9/2022 12:51:58 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There are still steers in Texas? I thought it was all….. Oregon is a big place, once you get away from the I-5 corridor from Portland to Eugene it’s radically different, especially East of the cascade mountains. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: There are still guns in Oregon? I thought it was all weed brownies, peace, love, and hugs up in the PacificNW. There are still steers in Texas? I thought it was all….. Oregon is a big place, once you get away from the I-5 corridor from Portland to Eugene it’s radically different, especially East of the cascade mountains. This should never have been on the ballot, the Sec of State office that is in charge of counting the signatures are all Dems so they tend to white wash the ballots they want and crush those they don't, namely the Governor recall attempt. There is no way to fight back as they control all oversite avenues as well. 90 some odd percent of all gun crime in the state happens inside a 5 mile radius in Portland and I am sure they don't prosecute gun crimes consistently with the DA they have. Multnomah county is just full of leftist and they along with and a few surrounding counties have the vote margin to pass what ever they want in the State. Leftist power base is geographically small but they have the votes so we are screwed.  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 12:54:02 PM EDT
[#22]
I expect as much from a Socialist state. When challenged in court, I hope it is tossed.
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Posted: 11/9/2022 12:55:09 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: "Where we go one we go all", every state is gonna have some horseshit like this eventually. Or it'll pass at the national level. There is no such desire in AR. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 12:56:37 PM EDT
[#24]
The predictable outcome in a nation with universal suffrage.
Abolish universal suffrage, create a meritocratic republic. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 12:56:57 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It hasn’t passed yet. https://i.imgur.com/ws2QzYQ.png And mail in ballots keep coming in until next Tuesday too. Oh look, 0.5% difference. How believable. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 12:57:07 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yup. Democracy is mob rule by the majority. It's why the founders set up a representative republic instead. Everyone has the same inalienable rights. The majority cannot take them away even through "voting". The problem is that due to human nature, the morally upstanding (most of which are conservatives) will always be outnumbered by the selfish, the immoral, the hedonistic, and the ignorant (which most libs are). This is why under a pure democracy conservatives can never win and why the left wants to move us that way. This is why dims love to crow about "muh democracy" and appeal to the immoral and the lowest common denominator, and have no problem with illegals pouring into the country and being granted citizenship because they are ignorant and vote D. The time where voting does anything is over. This is a battle of good vs evil for this country. We better get ready for what's coming if we want to have any chance to save it. right on. pretty much sums it up |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 12:57:33 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: At least no elected Sheriff will enforce this outside of Route 5 corridor and maybe Hood River and Bend. The current Hood River Sheriff won’t. We will see if they force him out because of it. Hood River use to be a really nice farm town. The proximity to Portland has ruined it. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 12:57:35 PM EDT
[#28]
Sweet (sarcasm). Where are the similar requirements for voting like civics and Constitution courses? Voting is using the government's gun, after all.
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Posted: 11/9/2022 12:58:21 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Utah is lucky Salt Lake City can't manage that. They wanted McMullin in bad. Many Utah counties have populations smaller than a NY town. Plus there's a huge influx of wealthy virtual workers, that's want most of the new population is. I have neighbors who moved in and immediately put out a McMullin sign Nobody cares about NY. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 1:01:05 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yup. Democracy is mob rule by the majority. It's why the founders set up a representative republic instead. Everyone has the same inalienable rights. The majority cannot take them away even through "voting". The problem is that due to human nature, the morally upstanding (most of which are conservatives) will always be outnumbered by the selfish, the immoral, the hedonistic, and the ignorant (which most libs are). This is why under a pure democracy conservatives can never win and why the left wants to move us that way. This is why dims love to crow about "muh democracy" and appeal to the immoral and the lowest common denominator, and have no problem with illegals pouring into the country and being granted citizenship because they are ignorant and vote D. The time where voting does anything is over. This is a battle of good vs evil for this country. We better get ready for what's coming if we want to have any chance to save it. We need to abolish universal suffrage and become a meritocratic republic where the right to participate in the political process is earned through race and gender blind completion of objective clear tasks designed to require great hardship and demonstration of classic Roman civic virtues. A society based on universal suffrage cannot endure as a free and just society for long. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 1:03:43 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Mag drop into Oregon? Useless. If you have a "high capacity" magazine it is defacto illegal and you are a criminal unless, as an affirmative defense, you can PROVE that you owned it before the ballot measure became law. Do you have notarized receipts for every magazine in your possession? Even if you do, this is what you are allowed to do with it:  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 1:08:11 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There has to be something constitutionally wrong with that, that can be argued with bruen It sure sounds like it would be unconstitutional. Is it $65 for a card that is good for 5-10+ years or a card for each gun? Illinois has a FOID card which is required to touch a gun or ammunition. The cost was $10 for ten years. You could buy as many guns and as much ammunition as you wanted. I know they changed it to require fingerprints but I am not sure what the costs are. I will be out of Illinois early next year so I won’t need it and couldn’t get it if I wanted to. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 1:08:40 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's full of good people, and lots of blue collar timber industry, same as here in E Tx. Our current governor lost all the big urban counties to Beto last night, luckily the rest of the state came thru. Texas can't talk shit. Lots of people who live in those big urban counties did not vote for Beto. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 1:15:33 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Compare to mid term elections, not the general election. I bet you'll find larger turn out by a factor of about 1.5 to 2 for mid terms. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It hasn't passed yet. https://i.imgur.com/ws2QzYQ.png And mail in ballots keep coming in until next Tuesday too. You can blame about 8,000 lazy gun owners for not getting out to vote. No idea what's being processed right now, but we are still well bellow average turnout. I bet you'll find larger turn out by a factor of about 1.5 to 2 for mid terms. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 1:18:39 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: At least no elected Sheriff will enforce this outside of Route 5 corridor and maybe Hood River and Bend. The Sheriff in Bend (Deschutes county) is against 114. We will see if it gets enforced, I doubt it. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 1:19:42 PM EDT
[#36]
Just gotta vote harder guys
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Posted: 11/9/2022 1:27:10 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just gotta vote harder guys How when clown freakish Commiefornians are moving to rural places and uprooting it with their political garbage beliefs they left and came with. I have three Commiefornian neighbors who all they do is whine about things in my rural neighborhood. Go back....please and then I'm suspended on NextDoor. Fucken hate them and their parasitic view. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 1:27:23 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The current Hood River Sheriff won’t. We will see if they force him out because of it. Hood River use to be a really nice farm town. The proximity to Portland has ruined it. Passed through Hood River 2 weeks ago with a truck and small boat in tow. What a fawking yuppy latte Patagonia town it has become. The only parking I could find was on the street with signs that say “NO SUV TRUCK VAN PICKUP TRAILER PARKING”. I parked. Fuck those guys. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 1:28:44 PM EDT
[#39]
Shit hole states get shit hole results.
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Posted: 11/9/2022 1:31:10 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lots of people who live in those big urban counties did not vote for Beto. Trust me good sir, I know. Our big cities are full of good conservatives, they are just outnumbered. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 1:31:59 PM EDT
[#41]
We are still at historically low turnout percentage wise.
Either votes are still in the pipe, or we have a bunch of new idiots living here. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 1:34:07 PM EDT
[#42]
It’s worse than NJ now. This shit is illlegal as fuck man.
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Posted: 11/9/2022 1:35:06 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The Sheriff in Bend (Deschutes county) is against 114. We will see if it gets enforced, I doubt it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: At least no elected Sheriff will enforce this outside of Route 5 corridor and maybe Hood River and Bend. The Sheriff in Bend (Deschutes county) is against 114. We will see if it gets enforced, I doubt it. Go to Sportsmans Warehouse "I would like one gun please" Clerk calls the state police -"She's asking for your firearm buying license number" "I don't have one, will not comply" -"State says no gun sale" "But the Sheriff said..." |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 1:38:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Shit hole states get shit hole results. Wrong ! direct your attention to those blue sections of the state, those are the shit holes in oregon. Whole lotta red in our state, freedom zones. There are alot of people on the left, dems and antifa that want their 2nd rights left alone in oregon. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 1:40:07 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: WA courts ignored egregious constitutional violations to allow 1639 on the ballot There are several lawsuits working their way through the system fairly quietly. Tune into Washington Gun Law on Youtube for encouraging news and updates. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 1:46:33 PM EDT
[#46]
I thinned out the numbers from page one on voter turnout.
Limiting it to only mid term years, its 21.07% lower turnout compared to average. About 415k less than 2018 with 234.5k more voters About 83k less than 2014 with almost 823k more voters. What the fuck are you doing Oregon? Current  Attached FileAverage limited to mid term years  Attached FileAlso the "affordable healthcare" measure is failing, but gun restrictions passing? |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 1:48:08 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have neighbors who moved in and immediately put out a McMullin sign You had better get used to that kinda shit. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 2:01:06 PM EDT
[#48]
Permit to buy guns and ammo, giant metro area controls the state.
Laughs in IL FOID card and Cook County.... First time?.jpg.. I wish it was funny, but it's really not. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 2:14:46 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Also the "affordable healthcare" measure is failing, but gun restrictions passing? That's a little weird, but this is the one that says a lot of people either aren't paying attention or they bought into the whole "Reps must do their job" propaganda:  114 is on the ballot because they couldn't pass it the regular way They couldn't pass it because of the Representatives that stayed out and didn't let the vote happen, rather than going to vote and losing 80-20 113 is on the ballot to prevent them from doing that again Everybody who voted No on 114 should have also voted No on 113 if they knew that |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 2:28:41 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's a little weird, but this is the one that says a lot of people either aren't paying attention or they bought into the whole "Reps must do their job" propaganda: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/59227/Capture_JPG-2593871.jpg 114 is on the ballot because they couldn't pass it the regular way They couldn't pass it because of the Representatives that stayed out and didn't let the vote happen, rather than going to vote and losing 80-20 113 is on the ballot to prevent them from doing that again Everybody who voted No on 114 should have also voted No on 113 if they knew that Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Also the "affordable healthcare" measure is failing, but gun restrictions passing? That's a little weird, but this is the one that says a lot of people either aren't paying attention or they bought into the whole "Reps must do their job" propaganda: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/59227/Capture_JPG-2593871.jpg 114 is on the ballot because they couldn't pass it the regular way They couldn't pass it because of the Representatives that stayed out and didn't let the vote happen, rather than going to vote and losing 80-20 113 is on the ballot to prevent them from doing that again Everybody who voted No on 114 should have also voted No on 113 if they knew that I'm still concerned over turnout, and have maybe a sliver of hope, or perhaps just a wish, that the lack of turnout is just no and Drazan votes are stuck in the mail but post marked properly. 
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