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Posted: 10/12/2012 8:10:46 AM EDT

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simply ask WHAT is this "gun show loophole"?

You know the one that allows you to buy fa/mgs, hand grenades, rpg's, and the like at dirt cheap prices........

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this is exactly what I'm getting at. Its amazing how uniformed/blatantly ignorant the left is towards Gun Shows. EVERYONE still has to the proper background check paperwork. Really, the only advantage of a gun show over a gun store is a wider selection, at POSSIBLY slightly lower prices.

It's worse than that. It isn't ignorance, its pure malice.

What they mean by "gun show loophole" is the ability for a private citizen to sell a gun to another private citizen without a background check. In effect, they'd like to make it illegal to sell a gun without reporting the fact you've done so to the government.

What closing the "gun show loophole" is really about is backdoor registration of firearms.

And we all know what comes after registration.

Yep. Closing the so called loophole would pretty much mean all private sales have to go through a FFL. Not quite registration but still a huge intrusion on our gun rights.

Posted: 10/12/2012 8:14:37 AM EDT

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simply ask WHAT is this "gun show loophole"?

You know the one that allows you to buy fa/mgs, hand grenades, rpg's, and the like at dirt cheap prices........

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this is exactly what I'm getting at. Its amazing how uniformed/blatantly ignorant the left is towards Gun Shows. EVERYONE still has to the proper background check paperwork. Really, the only advantage of a gun show over a gun store is a wider selection, at POSSIBLY slightly lower prices.

It's worse than that. It isn't ignorance, its pure malice.

What they mean by "gun show loophole" is the ability for a private citizen to sell a gun to another private citizen without a background check. In effect, they'd like to make it illegal to sell a gun without reporting the fact you've done so to the government.

What closing the "gun show loophole" is really about is backdoor registration of firearms.

And we all know what comes after registration.

I do not know. I shall ask and expert, or 8

Posted: 10/12/2012 8:16:08 AM EDT

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Its not going to happen

if obama wins a second term I have no doubt it will happen.

This WILL happen in a second Obama term, anyone who thinks otherwise is either a fool or have their head too far in the sand.

What will happen?

So you think understanding how the legislative branch of our government is currently made up equals being a fool or having your head buried in the sand?

I swear I wonder if some of you guys think BHO actually is some kind of god.

Posted: 10/12/2012 8:18:31 AM EDT

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Its not going to happen

if obama wins a second term I have no doubt it will happen.

This WILL happen in a second Obama term, anyone who thinks otherwise is either a fool or have their head too far in the sand.

What will happen?

So you think understanding how the legislative branch of our government is currently made up equals being a fool or having your head buried in the sand?

I swear I wonder if some of you guys think BHO actually is some kind of god.

And if we lose both the house and senate, what then?

"Oops" ?

Posted: 10/12/2012 8:20:46 AM EDT

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Yes, because Romney has never done anything like that...

Posted: 10/12/2012 8:20:46 AM EDT

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Its not going to happen

if obama wins a second term I have no doubt it will happen.

This WILL happen in a second Obama term, anyone who thinks otherwise is either a fool or have their head too far in the sand.

What will happen?

So you think understanding how the legislative branch of our government is currently made up equals being a fool or having your head buried in the sand?

I swear I wonder if some of you guys think BHO actually is some kind of god.

And if we lose both the house and senate, what then?

"Oops" ?

Just as I posted a few minutes ago, not a damn thing unless quite a few reps suddenly decide they no longer care about their NRA rating.

Posted: 10/12/2012 8:20:53 AM EDT

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As long as he does not get control of both houses I doubt you will see any bans.

If this were a *lawful* administration, I would agree with you.

However, I'm afraid they would go around Congress with EOs and BATF rulings to further erode the status quo as it pertains to the 2A.

I'm not a lawyer so maybe I'm totally off base, but I clearly remember the predictable but fraudulent "study" commissioned by president G.H.W. Bush, and subsequent ban on the importation of "automated weapons" (his words-what a fucking tool) *just because*, and all of it done without consent of Congress IIRC.

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong please.

Glad to.
Bush I's prohibition on importation of certain semiautomatic rifles was based on the "sporting use" clause of the Gun control Act of 1968.
That statute prohibits the importation of all firearms except those found to be useful for or adaptable to "sporting purposes". "Sporting purposes" is not defined in the law so each administration can define it as it sees fit.
Bush I decide that bayonets and pistol grips, etc. did not fit within the definition of "sporting use".
All perfectly legal. As usual, the problem can be traced back to Congress. It passed a vague law and permitted the Executive branch to make up definitions.
There is no statute which permits the Executive branch to ban the possession of firearms. Therefore the President cannot do so by Executive Order. Each such order must be based on authority granted by the constitution or by a statute.
The only way firearms can be banned is if Congress passes a statute doing so.

ETA: Let's use some common sense. If the President could simply ban firearms by EO, Clinton would not have settled for a 10 year AWB. He would have banned them permanently by EO the day after he was re-elected. That he did not do so should be all the proof anyone needs.

Posted: 10/12/2012 8:25:01 AM EDT

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Just as I posted a few minutes ago, not a damn thing unless quite a few reps suddenly decide they no longer care about their NRA rating.

There are plenty of RINOs that will be swayed by some pork in their pockets.

And their rating won't mean shit, just like pork bought votes for oblamacare and nobody gave a shit about the fallout.

Posted: 10/12/2012 8:25:57 AM EDT

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Anything is possible while that POS is in office. Voting has dire consequences, folks.

Posted: 10/12/2012 8:30:47 AM EDT

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Just as I posted a few minutes ago, not a damn thing unless quite a few reps suddenly decide they no longer care about their NRA rating.

There are plenty of RINOs that will be swayed by some pork in their pockets.

And their rating won't mean shit, just like pork bought votes for oblamacare and nobody gave a shit about the fallout.

Umm, how many Republicans do you think voted for Obamacare?

Posted: 10/12/2012 8:31:39 AM EDT

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Just as I posted a few minutes ago, not a damn thing unless quite a few reps suddenly decide they no longer care about their NRA rating.

There are plenty of RINOs that will be swayed by some pork in their pockets.

And their rating won't mean shit, just like pork bought votes for oblamacare and nobody gave a shit about the fallout.

If Republican members of Congress can be bribed to vote for citizen disarmament, why can't a Republican President be bribed to sign it?

If that is the case voting is pointless. They'll all just be bribed to do whatever the person bribing them wants. Since the average citizen doesn't have the access or the cash to match the bribe, we're doomed.

Posted: 10/12/2012 8:41:49 AM EDT

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Just as I posted a few minutes ago, not a damn thing unless quite a few reps suddenly decide they no longer care about their NRA rating.

There are plenty of RINOs that will be swayed by some pork in their pockets.

And their rating won't mean shit, just like pork bought votes for oblamacare and nobody gave a shit about the fallout.

Umm, how many Republicans do you think voted for Obamacare?

Newsflash Flashback:

oblamacare wouldn't have left committee if it wasn't for Olympia Snowe.

Posted: 10/12/2012 8:41:59 AM EDT

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If you thought something seemed way off with all of the Buckyballs magnets ban BS, there were definite mentions that this type of "expanded power" by the CPSC could be used to target all types of unpopular items - guns among them. I seem to recall it mentioned as possibly a trial run to get all of the legalities out of the way and establish precedent on a seemingly trivial item.

They wouldn't even try. The courts would rip them to shreds, especially after the Heller and McDonald rulings.

This.

Bucky Balls are not protected by the Bill of Rights, firearms are.

Posted: 10/12/2012 8:43:56 AM EDT

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If you thought something seemed way off with all of the Buckyballs magnets ban BS, there were definite mentions that this type of "expanded power" by the CPSC could be used to target all types of unpopular items - guns among them. I seem to recall it mentioned as possibly a trial run to get all of the legalities out of the way and establish precedent on a seemingly trivial item.

They wouldn't even try. The courts would rip them to shreds, especially after the Heller and McDonald rulings.

All they need to do is get Obama back in, let him appoint 1 or 2 more radical judges, then bring another gun case up to the court.

A leftist court can wipe out the 5-4 Heller and McDonald decisions pretty easily.

Posted: 10/12/2012 8:45:59 AM EDT

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If you thought something seemed way off with all of the Buckyballs magnets ban BS, there were definite mentions that this type of "expanded power" by the CPSC could be used to target all types of unpopular items - guns among them. I seem to recall it mentioned as possibly a trial run to get all of the legalities out of the way and establish precedent on a seemingly trivial item.

They wouldn't even try. The courts would rip them to shreds, especially after the Heller and McDonald rulings.

This.

Bucky Balls are not protected by the Bill of Rights, firearms are.

The Court deemed abortion a fundamental right under the United States Constitution.

Posted: 10/12/2012 8:52:42 AM EDT

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Its not going to happen

if obama wins a second term I have no doubt it will happen.

This WILL happen in a second Obama term, anyone who thinks otherwise is either a fool or have their head too far in the sand.

What will happen?

So you think understanding how the legislative branch of our government is currently made up equals being a fool or having your head buried in the sand?

I swear I wonder if some of you guys think BHO actually is some kind of god.

Not sure if you have been paying attention for the past 31/2 years but the US is on the edge of becoming a socialist nation. Our elected representatives have sold out their constituents. Do you really believe they want the peasants to own high powered rifles?

Posted: 10/12/2012 8:53:43 AM EDT

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Just as I posted a few minutes ago, not a damn thing unless quite a few reps suddenly decide they no longer care about their NRA rating.

There are plenty of RINOs that will be swayed by some pork in their pockets.

And their rating won't mean shit, just like pork bought votes for oblamacare and nobody gave a shit about the fallout.

Umm, how many Republicans do you think voted for Obamacare?

Newsflash Flashback:

oblamacare wouldn't have left committee if it wasn't for Olympia Snowe.

That's how you came up with the stuff in red up there?

Posted: 10/12/2012 8:55:39 AM EDT

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Newsflash Flashback:
oblamacare wouldn't have left committee if it wasn't for Olympia Snowe.

it was a 14 to 9 vote. The only reason Snowe mattered was it allowed the communists to crow about how bipartisan it is.

Posted: 10/12/2012 8:57:12 AM EDT

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Just as I posted a few minutes ago, not a damn thing unless quite a few reps suddenly decide they no longer care about their NRA rating.

There are plenty of RINOs that will be swayed by some pork in their pockets.

And their rating won't mean shit, just like pork bought votes for oblamacare and nobody gave a shit about the fallout.

Umm, how many Republicans do you think voted for Obamacare?

Newsflash Flashback:

oblamacare wouldn't have left committee if it wasn't for Olympia Snowe.

That's how you came up with the stuff in red up there?

No, the stuff in red up there refers to shit like this:

http://www.unitedliberty.org/articles/two-dems-got-pork-in-exchange-for-obamacare-vote

Don’t be surprised. This happens all the time. Outside the halls of
Congress, we’d call it "pay-for-play,” bribery or extortion. Personally,
I think these two members and the Speaker should be impeached for this.

Posted: 10/12/2012 8:57:47 AM EDT

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For those that think congress can stop him, I have a few points

Sporting purpose
Border state long gun resgistry
Import ban on ammo from China extended to Russia and Europe
Liability insurance requirements
Lead free ammo

Can congress stop all of these or even slow them. Signifigantly?

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Posted: 10/12/2012 8:58:53 AM EDT

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As long as he does not get control of both houses I doubt you will see any bans.

Correct.

Posted: 10/12/2012 8:59:36 AM EDT

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Its not going to happen

if obama wins a second term I have no doubt it will happen.

This WILL happen in a second Obama term, anyone who thinks otherwise is either a fool or have their head too far in the sand.

What will happen?

So you think understanding how the legislative branch of our government is currently made up equals being a fool or having your head buried in the sand?

I swear I wonder if some of you guys think BHO actually is some kind of god.

Not sure if you have been paying attention for the past 31/2 years but the US is on the edge of becoming a socialist nation. Our elected representatives have sold out their constituents. Do you really believe they want the peasants to own high powered rifles?

So, you're saying there is a giant conspiracy and all our elected officials are secretly working together to take our guns? I thought I was paying attention but I must have missed that.

Posted: 10/12/2012 9:03:45 AM EDT

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I'm tired of all the bullshit; Panic Buy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!$!!!!!!!!

Posted: 10/12/2012 9:05:07 AM EDT

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Newsflash Flashback:

oblamacare wouldn't have left committee if it wasn't for Olympia Snowe.

it was a 14 to 9 vote. The only reason Snowe mattered was it allowed the communists to crow about how bipartisan it is.

I guess I stand corrected, and was reading the wrong articles. Many still lay the blame on her for that, and she resigned as a result of it.

Anyways, she's a perfect example of a RINO,

http://www.redstate.com/mikeymike143/2012/02/02/andrew-ian-dodge-olympia-snowe-out-of-touch-with-21st-century-maine/

and there are more like her out there. This administration is known to apply pressure to get it's way.

Posted: 10/12/2012 9:06:22 AM EDT

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Quoted:

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Its not going to happen

if obama wins a second term I have no doubt it will happen.

This WILL happen in a second Obama term, anyone who thinks otherwise is either a fool or have their head too far in the sand.

What will happen?

So you think understanding how the legislative branch of our government is currently made up equals being a fool or having your head buried in the sand?

I swear I wonder if some of you guys think BHO actually is some kind of god.

Not sure if you have been paying attention for the past 31/2 years but the US is on the edge of becoming a socialist nation. Our elected representatives have sold out their constituents. Do you really believe they want the peasants to own high powered rifles?

So, you're saying there is a giant conspiracy and all our elected officials are secretly working together to take our guns? I thought I was paying attention but I must have missed that.

Fast and Furious never even happened. FauxNews made the whole thing up.

Posted: 10/12/2012 9:10:21 AM EDT

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Its not going to happen

if obama wins a second term I have no doubt it will happen.

This WILL happen in a second Obama term, anyone who thinks otherwise is either a fool or have their head too far in the sand.

What will happen?

So you think understanding how the legislative branch of our government is currently made up equals being a fool or having your head buried in the sand?

I swear I wonder if some of you guys think BHO actually is some kind of god.

Not sure if you have been paying attention for the past 31/2 years but the US is on the edge of becoming a socialist nation. Our elected representatives have sold out their constituents. Do you really believe they want the peasants to own high powered rifles?

So, you're saying there is a giant conspiracy and all our elected officials are secretly working together to take our guns? I thought I was paying attention but I must have missed that.

Fast and Furious never even happened. FauxNews made the whole thing up.

Fast and Furious happened precisely because BHO and company know there isn't support for gun control legislation. You really don't understand that?

Posted: 10/12/2012 9:20:18 AM EDT

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Its not going to happen

if obama wins a second term I have no doubt it will happen.

This WILL happen in a second Obama term, anyone who thinks otherwise is either a fool or have their head too far in the sand.

What will happen?

So you think understanding how the legislative branch of our government is currently made up equals being a fool or having your head buried in the sand?

I swear I wonder if some of you guys think BHO actually is some kind of god.

Not sure if you have been paying attention for the past 31/2 years but the US is on the edge of becoming a socialist nation. Our elected representatives have sold out their constituents. Do you really believe they want the peasants to own high powered rifles?

So, you're saying there is a giant conspiracy and all our elected officials are secretly working together to take our guns? I thought I was paying attention but I must have missed that.

Fast and Furious never even happened. FauxNews made the whole thing up.

Fast and Furious happened precisely because BHO and company know there isn't support for gun control legislation. You really don't understand that?

You're right.

This subject is nonsense. And after all, constitutional vigilence is so time consuming.

Let's just er on the side of complacency and just lossely keep our fingers crossed.

Posted: 10/12/2012 9:24:06 AM EDT

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For those that think congress can stop him, I have a few points

Sporting purpose
Border state long gun resgistry
Import ban on ammo from China extended to Russia and Europe
Liability insurance requirements
Lead free ammo

Can congress stop all of these or even slow them. Signifigantly?

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"Sporting purpose" comes from the Gun Control Act of 1968. That's a statute passed by Congress. It can be repealed or amended to remove the language.
The reporting requirement is also based on the GCA. Again, it can be repealed or amended to remove the language on which the requirement is based.
Import bans are based on statutes which are passed by Congress.
Liability insurance requirements? I don't know what you're referring to, but I assure you that any lender will require such insurance even if the gov't doesn't.
Lead free ammunition? For who? If you're talking about civilians, the authority comes from the Envirionmental Protection Act and the Clean Water Act both of which were passed by Congress.

The President is not all powerful. The authority granted by the Constitution is limited. Most of the power in the office has been delegated by Congress after it usurped it.

Posted: 10/12/2012 9:25:43 AM EDT

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Its not going to happen

Anytime someone says that, I cringe.

Posted: 10/12/2012 9:28:25 AM EDT

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Its not going to happen

if obama wins a second term I have no doubt it will happen.

With what support?

Obama might not be worried about re-election, but it would need the support of a LOT of politicians that keep one eye on the next election. A LOT Of them would be looking for work, if they helped pass anti-gun legislation and they damn well know it.

It would never make it to Obama's desk.

Posted: 10/12/2012 9:52:32 AM EDT

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We all can speculate what will or won't happen till our fingers fall off from typing. Bottom line is, does obama has current support for a full on assault on our gun rights currently? No, he doesn't currently! However, IF he gets back in AND he has the chance to appoint 2 or even 1 USSCJ I guarantee you they will try to implement some form of gun control/ban or try and reverse every Pro 2nd ammendment ruling we've won.

If he can't do it with the support of congress, he will do it through the courts.

Posted: 10/12/2012 9:53:52 AM EDT

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I'm tired of all the bullshit; Panic Buy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!$!!!!!!!!

http://soshable.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/shut-up-and-take-my-money.jpg

I guess you could say I've been panic buying for the better part of a decade.

Posted: 10/12/2012 9:54:14 AM EDT

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Fast and Furious happened precisely because BHO and company know there isn't support for gun control legislation. You really don't understand that?

You're right.

This subject is nonsense. And after all, constitutional vigilence is so time consuming.

Let's just er on the side of complacency and just lossely keep our fingers crossed.

What the fuck are you talking about? Rationally discussing the prospect of gun control, based on understanding how the fuck our government works, is in no way being complacent.

Do you actually believe that people making silly statements about BHO somehow magically creating new law does anything positive for our rights?

Stuff like that makes us look like a bunch of idiots. You know these threads show up on Google, right?

Posted: 10/12/2012 10:11:11 AM EDT

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Yes, because Romney has never done anything like that...

yep...you're right..he hasn't

Posted: 10/12/2012 10:22:07 AM EDT

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Would not a new ban have to pass both the house and senate? Don't think this will happen anytime soon... now if the Dems won control of both, and the White House.. I would be buying some new toys rather quickly.

Posted: 10/12/2012 10:25:27 AM EDT

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Check out this video discussing nearly the exact same things:
Why Gun Owners Need Not To Forget When Voting...

Posted: 10/12/2012 10:27:35 AM EDT

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As long as he does not get control of both houses I doubt you will see any bans.

Yes

Executive order. He can make our lives hell with those.

Posted: 10/12/2012 10:33:59 AM EDT

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http://theintelhub.com/2012/10/11/u-s-military-plans-to-prevent-veteran-suicides-by-taking-away-their-guns/

Posted: 10/12/2012 10:45:56 AM EDT

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As long as he does not get control of both houses I doubt you will see any bans.

Yes

Executive order. He can make our lives hell with those.

We all remember that Bill Clinton prohibited civilian ownership of all firearms by Executive Order the day he was re-elected, so why wouldn't the President do the same this time, right?

Posted: 10/12/2012 10:49:35 AM EDT

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WHY do some of you immediately say "It's not going to happen" every time this subject this comes up? What gives you the smug assurance that it can't? Given the other shit this guy has shoved through - and considering he still has control of the Senate - the motherfucker can do ANYTHING he wants to.

Stop this holier-than-thou "Can't happen" shit. You may be eating your words one of these days.

Posted: 10/12/2012 10:50:25 AM EDT

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Old news for the past 4 years, but thanks for reminding us anyhow.

It's been down off their website for the 4 years too...

Weird that it is back up.

Election season. They really mean it this time though. Gloves are off with a successful re-election. Ima bet you its more than simple opportunism this time.

Posted: 10/12/2012 10:55:19 AM EDT

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WHY do some of you immediately say "It's not going to happen" every time this subject this comes up? What gives you the smug assurance that it can't? Given the other shit this guy has shoved through - and considering he still has control of the Senate - the motherfucker can do ANYTHING he wants to.

Stop this holier-than-thou "Can't happen" shit. You may be eating your words one of these days.

Control of the Senate will get him as much civilian disarmament as Republican control of the House (since 2010) has gotten them spending reductions.
In case you haven't been paying attention, the spending has been reduced exactly ZERO dollars.
In order to become law a bill must be passed by BOTH houses of Congress, not just the Senate.

Posted: 10/12/2012 10:55:48 AM EDT

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Obama had four years to take away our guns, he proved that he's not after our guns.

Who knows what Romney will do if elected?
Hmmmmm.....

Just saying.

So I guess you missed his record and all of the bluster as a state Senator and a U.S. Senator from IL before becoming POTUS then. He's a hard core liberal. Its always on the plate.

Posted: 10/12/2012 10:59:00 AM EDT

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Obama had four years to take away our guns, he proved that he's not after our guns.

Who knows what Romney will do if elected?
Hmmmmm.....

Just saying.

I finally found you!

I was just talking with some of my coworkers about you. Wondering exactly how long it'll be before you show yourself. So who's dime are you on? You're with the TruthSquad right?

I've been noticing more and more people like you trying to intentionally distort Zer0's record into something it's not. I remember him telling Sarah Brady that he had "Something under the Radar" when it came to gun control. Well we found out what it was, and it's Fast and Furious. A Reichtag fire. A false flag incident.

Go fuck yourself with a rake. The end with the tines.

Posted: 10/12/2012 11:21:51 AM EDT

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You all are concerned about an outright ban. I'm not. I'm concerned about taxes and fees. Is it possible to increase the NFA tax stamp to $2000? How about a tax on high capacity magazines, of say $200 per magazine?? How about a 4473 filing fee of $500?? Can he do this with an EO?? It would still be legal to own them, but prohibitively expensive. Backdoor ban.

The Dems couldnt push through Cap and Trade, so Obama took the EPA off its already loose leash. Look at the coal industry and coal fired electric plants and how this affected them. This guy is crafty. Don't be so sure he couldn't do something similar with the BATFE.

Posted: 10/12/2012 11:55:46 AM EDT

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If Obama wins a second term our lives will be hell. He'll instruct the CPSC to go after firearms under the guise of its a danger to the public. He'll send the EPA after Ammo manufactures due to lead content in bullets and harmful, smoke in burnt gunpowder. He will sic the ATF on us with further restrictions. and increased reporting schemes. He'll have the National Health Service declare guns to be an the driver of epidemic violence and a danger to the health of the nation. By executive order he will ban every foreign import related to firearms and ammunition. And lastly he will probably have the opportunity to appoint 2 or 3 wise Latina type liberal judges to the Supreme Court.

If you don't think Obama is not going to go after gun owners and gun rights with an axe during his second term, you must be laying on the ground with both you head up your ass and buried in the sand.

And yes that's my new sig line

edited for spelling

Posted: 10/12/2012 12:04:16 PM EDT

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The assualt weapons ban has to be one of the dumbest and least effective laws ever passed.

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Posted: 10/12/2012 12:13:04 PM EDT

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You all are concerned about an outright ban. I'm not. I'm concerned about taxes and fees. Is it possible to increase the NFA tax stamp to $2000? Not with a statute passed by cCongress How about a tax on high capacity magazines, of say $200 per magazine?? Not without a statute passed by Congress How about a 4473 filing fee of $500?? Not without a statute passed by Congress Can he do this with an EO?? Executive Orders must be based on some authority granted by the Constitution or delegated by Congress in a statute. There is no such authority

Ask yourself this:
If the President could do this without Congress, why didn't Clinton do it the day after he was re-elected??
answer: The President is not all powerful.

Posted: 10/12/2012 12:15:45 PM EDT

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If you thought something seemed way off with all of the Buckyballs magnets ban BS, there were definite mentions that this type of "expanded power" by the CPSC could be used to target all types of unpopular items - guns among them. I seem to recall it mentioned as possibly a trial run to get all of the legalities out of the way and establish precedent on a seemingly trivial item.

They wouldn't even try. The courts would rip them to shreds, especially after the Heller and McDonald rulings.

Some cases have held up for assault weapons.

(I'm from CA) ask me how I know....

Posted: 10/12/2012 12:25:04 PM EDT

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Obama had four years to take away our guns, he proved that he's not after our guns.

Who knows what Romney will do if elected?
Hmmmmm.....

Just saying.

I'll see your GOA, and raise you a GOAL.

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