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11/24/2018 11:53:07 PM EDT
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I ended up getting one, If I don’t like it, I’ll trade it for a DD mk18 rail that I want.
11/25/2018 12:09:25 AM EDT
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having trouble finding one that doesn't have an FSB already
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just gotta pick out an 11.5" barrel to go with it.
Grab a Colt FBI HRT 11.5!
having trouble finding one that doesn't have an FSB already
There ya go!

https://charliescustomclones.com/collections/barrels-parts-and-other-hard-goods/products/colt-11-5-socom-stripped-barrel-new-fbi-over-run
11/25/2018 12:25:54 AM EDT
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I've sent them about 5 emails, no response to any of them.
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I got this from them today

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11/25/2018 12:58:38 AM EDT
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I ended up getting one, If I don’t like it, I’ll trade it for a DD mk18 rail that I want.
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I wish Geissele would figure out how to make a rail with no exposed hardware (ala the KAC URX...which is why I like them so much). If I don’t like the Fed rail I’ll replace it with a URX.
11/25/2018 1:02:57 AM EDT
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My grey Mk4 should arrive on Friday!

Now I need to decide if it's going to replace the Mk3 on one of my rifles (I am planning to paint it grey anyway) or do a new build.
11/25/2018 1:23:18 AM EDT
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I've sent them about 5 emails, no response to any of them.
I got this from them today

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/198606/A2B39335-84DA-41AD-931F-017ADA1084E2_jpeg-750059.JPG
I wonder why they never reply to me?

I’ve even used two different email accounts in case there was a problem with one.

11/25/2018 1:26:13 AM EDT
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There ya go!

https://charliescustomclones.com/collections/barrels-parts-and-other-hard-goods/products/colt-11-5-socom-stripped-barrel-new-fbi-over-run
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just gotta pick out an 11.5" barrel to go with it.
Grab a Colt FBI HRT 11.5!
having trouble finding one that doesn't have an FSB already
There ya go!

https://charliescustomclones.com/collections/barrels-parts-and-other-hard-goods/products/colt-11-5-socom-stripped-barrel-new-fbi-over-run
$419? Yeah I'll stick with my Ballistic Advantage
11/25/2018 1:31:07 AM EDT
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Grabbed one - if I do install it, I won't bother with a FBI barrel since I'm really not that interested in cloning 100%. Putting it on a commando upper is good enough for me.
11/25/2018 1:32:42 AM EDT
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It should.  I’m using KM FHs on my guns and my 10.5” barreled upper with a 10” ALG EMR fits perfectly.  ALG and Geissele measure rail length the same way, so you should be fine.
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@RJeff21 can you either post more pics of that 10.5" or point me to a thread where you have pics? I'm gonna have to change my order I made with BA now lol
11/25/2018 1:40:39 AM EDT
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Plan for my ODG Fed Rail:

Aero X15 Lower
Geissele LPK
Larue MBT trigger
Maxim PDW stock w/ heavy buffer & tax stamp
Aero upper
Colt bolt carrier
BA bolt
Ballistic Advantage 12.5” barrel
Superlative Arms Adj Gas block
Geissele MK4 Federal OD green rail
AAC 51T flash hider
PA 1-6x FFP ACSS reticle (temp optic until NX-8)
PA scope mount

Everything is already bought except the stamp...
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11/25/2018 1:44:28 AM EDT
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Na, not interested. I don't get the appeal of it honestly.
11/25/2018 2:07:44 AM EDT
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Needs Nightforce NX-8....no money to buy NX-8...

Only thing I cheaped out on was the charging handle (standard one) and the optic/mount. Will play with it a bit before I spend another $2k.
11/25/2018 2:10:08 AM EDT
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I was really tempted to get one, but I just assembled my 11.5 with a URX 3.1 that I really like.
11/25/2018 2:18:44 AM EDT
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Is there any issue with stripping a fsb and pinning a G gas block? I assume that the 250 Shark arms ones are fsb? I would imagine the front drill hole for the fsb will be exposed? But it seems easier to swallow than $400+ for a non-fsb.
11/25/2018 2:34:05 AM EDT
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Is there any issue with stripping a fsb and pinning a G gas block? I assume that the 250 Shark arms ones are fsb? I would imagine the front drill hole for the fsb will be exposed? But it seems easier to swallow than $400+ for a non-fsb.
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Should be well under the rail.
11/25/2018 2:58:33 AM EDT
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From what I understand the green ones are used by FBI Swat...not just HRT. The gray ones are used by SOG and the black ones are used on field agent rifles.

They used to use troy rails....
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This ^^ is correct.

The FBI color codes their guns for admin reasons. The Geissele rail is standard on all current FBI carbines.

Regular agents get black Glocks (including POW) and the current issue Carbine is an 11.5” Colt in black with the 10” Geissele rail, ergo grip, CTR stock and either an Aimpoint H2 on a DD mount or a SIG Romeo 4M.  Troy BUIS Viking tactics sling and Gen 2 Inforce WML.

There are some gray carbines with PDW stocks in use by SOG (full surveillance units) for use in vehicles. Other than the color and PDW stock they are the same as the standard issue.

SWAT guns are green carbines and battle field green G17s with factory - connectors. Some of the SWAT carbines  have Geissele triggers. SWAT agents have more latitude in accessories and optics. How much  dependis on the office / team.

HRT has tan Glocks. Logical their carbines would be similar.

There is an approved POW rifle, a Colt 6920 with a 16” barrel and an 11”” Troy Alpha rail. Approved optics etc are the same as the issued Carbine.

Many of the prior issue RRA m4’s were converted to 11.5” and the 11.5” colts were originally issued with Troy Alpha rails. The FBI is a big Agency and there are various combinations of these guns / configurations out there but the end goal is all issued 11.5” carbines with Geissele rails.
11/25/2018 3:46:07 AM EDT
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Thank you much for that info. I appreciate it! Anyone know which Troy front sight is used, the M4 style or HK style?
11/25/2018 4:11:04 AM EDT
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oof! Ok just dropped 4 bills on a barrel. Ridiculous but whatever. Had to get 1
11/25/2018 6:07:21 AM EDT
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This is what I made with mine:

11/25/2018 11:31:14 AM EDT
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@RJeff21 can you either post more pics of that 10.5" or point me to a thread where you have pics? I'm gonna have to change my order I made with BA now lol
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It should.  I’m using KM FHs on my guns and my 10.5” barreled upper with a 10” ALG EMR fits perfectly.  ALG and Geissele measure rail length the same way, so you should be fine.
@RJeff21 can you either post more pics of that 10.5" or point me to a thread where you have pics? I'm gonna have to change my order I made with BA now lol
@ehudbengera

When I get home later today, I’ll snap a few pics and post them up.
11/25/2018 11:40:24 AM EDT
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This is what I made with mine:

https://i.imgur.com/OPKgun1.jpg
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ShortBoi & TallBoi
11/25/2018 11:49:49 AM EDT
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This is what I made with mine:

https://i.imgur.com/OPKgun1.jpg
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Beowulf X mount or Kayan Lahwi tribe?
11/25/2018 12:06:27 PM EDT
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I was really tempted to get one, but I just assembled my 11.5 with a URX 3.1 that I really like.
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I'm replacing a 3.1 for my 10" Federal. Nothing wrong with the KAC, but G4LYFE mang
11/25/2018 12:20:55 PM EDT
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Since this doc the 4M was discontinued and it appears they're using the 4T.
11/26/2018 12:34:25 PM EDT
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I'm replacing a 3.1 for my 10" Federal. Nothing wrong with the KAC, but G4LYFE mang
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What length was the 3.1?
11/26/2018 12:37:09 PM EDT
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Tag for later
11/26/2018 12:51:59 PM EDT
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Anyone know if these work with 10.5" barrels and ASR mounts?
11/26/2018 1:07:59 PM EDT
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If a 10" MK1 is the same lengh as a 10" Mk4, yes.
Mine will be here tomorrow and I'm going MK1 to MK4 fed.
Pics maybe tomorrow but my current 10" Mk1 on a 10.5" barrel with a Saker/ASR mount below.
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11/26/2018 1:22:40 PM EDT
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If a 10" MK1 is the same lengh as a 10" Mk4, yes.
Mine will be here tomorrow and I'm going MK1 to MK4 fed.
Pics maybe tomorrow but my current 10" Mk1 on a 10.5" barrel with a Saker/ASR mount below.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/191040/54caERk_jpg-749482.JPG

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Anyone know if these work with 10.5" barrels and ASR mounts?
If a 10" MK1 is the same lengh as a 10" Mk4, yes.
Mine will be here tomorrow and I'm going MK1 to MK4 fed.
Pics maybe tomorrow but my current 10" Mk1 on a 10.5" barrel with a Saker/ASR mount below.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/191040/54caERk_jpg-749482.JPG

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Thanks @hk45user
11/26/2018 1:29:47 PM EDT
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11/26/2018 1:49:19 PM EDT
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Already?

Mine is still processing.
11/26/2018 3:46:22 PM EDT
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Already?

Mine is still processing.
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Mine (along w/ 2 other orders) is sitting in Horsham, PA since Saturday at 11 PM.

I got UPS Mail Innovation-ed.

11/26/2018 4:05:04 PM EDT
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Already?

Mine is still processing.
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Already?

Mine is still processing.
I have two rail orders processing. Seeing these other rails posted makes the wait hard. I want od green!
11/26/2018 4:07:09 PM EDT
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Mine (along w/ 2 other orders) is sitting in Horsham, PA since Saturday at 11 PM.

I got UPS Mail Innovation-ed.

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When the sale went live I just ordered the rail. Then I ordered some  other stuff after a few beer flowed through me. The second package is ups mail innovation as well.
11/26/2018 8:31:13 PM EDT
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Haven’t gotten my Federal ODG yet, but I did get this.

11/26/2018 8:42:51 PM EDT
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@RJeff21 did you ever get those pics?
11/26/2018 8:53:51 PM EDT
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Haven’t gotten my Federal ODG yet, but I did get this.

https://i.ibb.co/HDyLW0r/A38-AD886-A7-D7-4360-A7-C0-A217186-C12-CE.jpg
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11/26/2018 9:38:36 PM EDT
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If a 10" MK1 is the same lengh as a 10" Mk4, yes.
Mine will be here tomorrow and I'm going MK1 to MK4 fed.
Pics maybe tomorrow but my current 10" Mk1 on a 10.5" barrel with a Saker/ASR mount below.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/191040/54caERk_jpg-749482.JPG
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Any chance you have a pic of the 10" Mk1 without the suppressor? Trying to figure out if a 10.5" barrel will work with a birdcage or something similar unsuppressed.
11/26/2018 10:21:18 PM EDT
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Shit, sorry man, forgot.  Gimme a few minutes.  
11/26/2018 11:36:26 PM EDT
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@RJeff21 did you ever get those pics?
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11/27/2018 12:03:21 AM EDT
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Haven’t gotten my Federal ODG yet, but I did get this.

https://i.ibb.co/HDyLW0r/A38-AD886-A7-D7-4360-A7-C0-A217186-C12-CE.jpg
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@Mikehikes

Is the ACH marked with a NSN as well?
11/27/2018 12:19:58 AM EDT
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Any chance you have a pic of the 10" Mk1 without the suppressor? Trying to figure out if a 10.5" barrel will work with a birdcage or something similar unsuppressed.
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If a 10" MK1 is the same lengh as a 10" Mk4, yes.
Mine will be here tomorrow and I'm going MK1 to MK4 fed.
Pics maybe tomorrow but my current 10" Mk1 on a 10.5" barrel with a Saker/ASR mount below.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/191040/54caERk_jpg-749482.JPG
Any chance you have a pic of the 10" Mk1 without the suppressor? Trying to figure out if a 10.5" barrel will work with a birdcage or something similar unsuppressed.
It will work. I have a 10" MK1 with a 10.5" barrel.  Only about the wrench flats will be covered by the rail.  So you will probably have to install the muzzle device before final install of the rail, no problem with that though.
11/27/2018 12:27:38 AM EDT
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It will work. I have a 10" MK1 with a 10.5" barrel.  Only about the wrench flats will be covered by the rail.  So you will probably have to install the muzzle device before final install of the rail, no problem with that though.
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Nifty. Thanks!
11/27/2018 1:50:55 AM EDT
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Any chance you have a pic of the 10" Mk1 without the suppressor? Trying to figure out if a 10.5" barrel will work with a birdcage or something similar unsuppressed.
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If a 10" MK1 is the same lengh as a 10" Mk4, yes.
Mine will be here tomorrow and I'm going MK1 to MK4 fed.
Pics maybe tomorrow but my current 10" Mk1 on a 10.5" barrel with a Saker/ASR mount below.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/191040/54caERk_jpg-749482.JPG
Any chance you have a pic of the 10" Mk1 without the suppressor? Trying to figure out if a 10.5" barrel will work with a birdcage or something similar unsuppressed.
11/27/2018 7:30:02 AM EDT
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Awesome, thanks.
11/28/2018 1:57:08 PM EDT
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Aww yiss.

11/28/2018 9:32:43 PM EDT
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Can you say what the barrel length and suppressor are?
11/28/2018 10:22:39 PM EDT
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Can you say what the barrel length and suppressor are?
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Can you say what the barrel length and suppressor are?
It was on an earlier page, Silencerco on a 10.5" barrel

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