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Posted: 5/22/2022 8:46:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I gotta say, I’m really disappointed seeing certain people celebrating when Max went off and when he had DRS problems. I thought we all wanted good racing? Seems like some people (cough shung cough) really hate Max and are only happy when Leclerc/Ferrari are winning. Nah. I'd say that's just part of being a fan of any driver or team. There's good and bad and ugly in it. I wouldn't get too bothered by it. Besides, Russell did a lot to provide some entertaining racing today. I wouldn't read too much into it. I wonder what the racing would look like if P15-20 got to use DRS even if they weren't within a second. Seems like that could make things interesting. |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 9:25:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Was this the last race for that engine? Charles engine was only 2 races old if that’s what you’re asking about. Both Ferraris are on their 2nd engine. Leclerc might need to take his 3rd and final engine if it’s a total loss. Red Bulls are still using their first engines. |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 9:33:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nah. I'd say that's just part of being a fan of any driver or team. There's good and bad and ugly in it. I wouldn't get too bothered by it. Besides, Russell did a lot to provide some entertaining racing today. I wouldn't read too much into it. I wonder what the racing would look like if P15-20 got to use DRS even if they weren't within a second. Seems like that could make things interesting. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I gotta say, I’m really disappointed seeing certain people celebrating when Max went off and when he had DRS problems. I thought we all wanted good racing? Seems like some people (cough shung cough) really hate Max and are only happy when Leclerc/Ferrari are winning. Nah. I'd say that's just part of being a fan of any driver or team. There's good and bad and ugly in it. I wouldn't get too bothered by it. Besides, Russell did a lot to provide some entertaining racing today. I wouldn't read too much into it. I wonder what the racing would look like if P15-20 got to use DRS even if they weren't within a second. Seems like that could make things interesting. Agreed. It’s all in good fun. I root against Hammy and Merc too - it’s all part of rivalries and racing. A little passion makes it more fun. Oh and F lulu and Merc. |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 9:46:49 PM EDT
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And by the way not looking forward to Monaco. Most worthless track on the circuit. That race is for celebrities and rich people. Period. There’s not racing involved in that pathetic street course.
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Posted: 5/22/2022 9:50:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And by the way not looking forward to Monaco. Most worthless track on the circuit. That race is for celebrities and rich people. Period. There’s not racing involved in that pathetic street course. Only good thing about Monaco is the heritage. I agree though, the race usually sucks. |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 10:53:17 PM EDT
[#6]
Solid race.
I think it'll be down to Max vs George by the end of the season with Ferrari a distant memory. They've had unreliable cars for so many seasons. |
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Posted: 5/23/2022 2:12:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Solid race. I think it'll be down to Max vs George by the end of the season with Ferrari a distant memory. They've had unreliable cars for so many seasons. This was their first DNF due to engine failure this season, so I wouldnt write off Ferrari just yet. If you wanna talk about unreliability, gotta look squarely at RBR; that scares me every damn race as Im a hardcore Max fanboi and not afraid to admit it. They have yet to have a race where neither Max or Checo had an intermediate to serious issue with one or both of their cars. Horner better start swinging that whip and getting shit together in Milton Keyes cause you arent going to win if the car is always breaking down. Max got SUPER lucky that his tire strategy was taking full advantage of the undercut else hed be fighting for P3 instead of miraculously getting P1 +10s over Checo in P2. |
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Posted: 5/23/2022 6:49:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I gotta say, I’m really disappointed seeing certain people celebrating when Max went off and when he had DRS problems. I thought we all wanted good racing? Seems like some people (cough shung cough) really hate Max and are only happy when Leclerc/Ferrari are winning. I'd argue that Max's DRS failure(s) made the racing better. Kept him from blowing by Russel much earlier than he did. |
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Posted: 5/23/2022 6:50:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And by the way not looking forward to Monaco. Most worthless track on the circuit. That race is for celebrities and rich people. Period. There’s not racing involved in that pathetic street course. Monaco needs to be dropped. The sport has moved on... that track sucks. |
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Posted: 5/23/2022 9:52:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Monaco needs to be dropped. The sport has moved on... that track sucks. The track is lacking by modern standards. But the heritage and shear enjoyment of being there can't be beat. Just walking around enjoying the yacht views before/after the race are outstanding. |
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Posted: 5/23/2022 1:09:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The track is lacking by modern standards. But the heritage and shear enjoyment of being there can't be beat. Just walking around enjoying the yacht views before/after the race are outstanding. I’d hate to see the flat out get rid of it. Keep it as an exhibition/non-points or even a time-attack style or something. Monaco race chugs ass-cock and shouldn’t have any bearing on racing championships, but it is an absolute treasure as an event. |
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Posted: 5/23/2022 3:11:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The track is lacking by modern standards. But the heritage and shear enjoyment of being there can't be beat. Just walking around enjoying the yacht views before/after the race are outstanding. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Monaco needs to be dropped. The sport has moved on... that track sucks. The track is lacking by modern standards. But the heritage and shear enjoyment of being there can't be beat. Just walking around enjoying the yacht views before/after the race are outstanding. I couldn't care less about heritage, and for the 99.99999% of people that AREN'T there, the weekend blows because there is no racing. Just a train and hoping for rain. |
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Posted: 5/23/2022 5:55:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Monaco needs to be dropped. The sport has moved on... that track sucks. It'll never be dropped.......ever. |
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Posted: 5/23/2022 6:36:19 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/23/2022 7:40:40 PM EDT
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I'm looking at the Monaco schedule and all sessions are Friday - Sunday.
Didn't first Monaco practice sessions used to take place on Thursday, because Friday was a quiet day? When did that change? Well before posting I looked it up, looks like this is the first year it's happening, for logistics purposes. https://www.motorsportweek.com/2021/09/22/monaco-f1-action-to-switch-to-conventional-timetable/ |
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Posted: 5/23/2022 9:33:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It'll never be dropped.......ever. Two permanent F1 fixtures: Monaco and Ferrari. |
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Posted: 5/23/2022 11:02:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Monaco needs to be dropped. The sport has moved on... that track sucks. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: And by the way not looking forward to Monaco. Most worthless track on the circuit. That race is for celebrities and rich people. Period. There’s not racing involved in that pathetic street course. Monaco needs to be dropped. The sport has moved on... that track sucks. Have them race in karts. Have the karts very carefully prepared to be identical. |
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Posted: 5/23/2022 11:20:42 PM EDT
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Perez knew early on he was getting screwed in the race. His audio is telling
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Posted: 5/24/2022 7:18:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Monaco needs to be dropped. The sport has moved on... that track sucks. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: And by the way not looking forward to Monaco. Most worthless track on the circuit. That race is for celebrities and rich people. Period. There’s not racing involved in that pathetic street course. Monaco needs to be dropped. The sport has moved on... that track sucks. And replace it with what? Monaco quali is the most insane sports spectacle of the year. |
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Posted: 5/24/2022 7:30:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm looking at the Monaco schedule and all sessions are Friday - Sunday. Didn't first Monaco practice sessions used to take place on Thursday, because Friday was a quiet day? When did that change? Well before posting I looked it up, looks like this is the first year it's happening, for logistics purposes. https://www.motorsportweek.com/2021/09/22/monaco-f1-action-to-switch-to-conventional-timetable/ |
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Posted: 5/24/2022 8:52:56 AM EDT
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Confirmed that it was the turbine of the turbo that broke in Leclercs car, juste like Bottas on Friday.
Also, the Mgu-k is broken and thats already n2 of the 3 allowed this year. Max has done 6 GP with the same unit |
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Posted: 5/24/2022 9:40:50 AM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It'll never be dropped.......ever. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Monaco needs to be dropped. The sport has moved on... that track sucks. It'll never be dropped.......ever. Yea, I know. Just a waste IMO. |
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Posted: 5/24/2022 9:42:05 AM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And replace it with what? Monaco quali is the most insane sports spectacle of the year. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: And by the way not looking forward to Monaco. Most worthless track on the circuit. That race is for celebrities and rich people. Period. There’s not racing involved in that pathetic street course. Monaco needs to be dropped. The sport has moved on... that track sucks. And replace it with what? Monaco quali is the most insane sports spectacle of the year. The quali is the "race." |
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Posted: 5/24/2022 9:45:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Confirmed that it was the turbine of the turbo that broke in Leclercs car, juste like Bottas on Friday. Also, the Mgu-k is broken and thats already n2 of the 3 allowed this year. Max has done 6 GP with the same unit Sucks for Charles, Ferrari, and Ferrari powered teams. Ferrari was pretty quick to not call it a reliability issue, which was a bit strange. That would, in theory, start the process of allowing them to work on redesigns. |
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Posted: 5/24/2022 9:46:25 AM EDT
[#25]
Oh Lewis….
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Posted: 5/24/2022 9:48:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryDidn’t max get a penalty for this ? |
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Posted: 5/24/2022 10:03:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Didn’t max get a penalty for this ? Quote HistoryMax got a fine. That said, there is video that looks like he doesn’t touch anything. |
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Posted: 5/24/2022 10:11:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Max got a fine. That said, there is video that looks like he doesn’t touch anything. Quote HistoryQuoted: Max got a fine. That said, there is video that looks like he doesn’t touch anything. Not in parc ferme, doesn't count. |
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Posted: 5/24/2022 10:17:07 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And replace it with what? Monaco quali is the most insane sports spectacle of the year. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: And by the way not looking forward to Monaco. Most worthless track on the circuit. That race is for celebrities and rich people. Period. There’s not racing involved in that pathetic street course. Monaco needs to be dropped. The sport has moved on... that track sucks. And replace it with what? Monaco quali is the most insane sports spectacle of the year. I have a foot in both camps. Monaco is an amazing spectacle and yet the racing between drivers during the race is typically pretty poor. Everyone says the track needs to be dropped, but I think I have a better solution. MAKE THE CARS SHORTER. If you've never seen a modern F1 car up close in person it's quite striking how long they are. Just look at this chart.  F1 cars are too long. I can think of one idea to accomplish this that will also improve F1 in my opinion; shrink the fuel tanks and bring back refueling. |
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Posted: 5/24/2022 10:18:45 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have a foot in both camps. Monaco is an amazing spectacle and yet the racing between drivers during the race is typically pretty poor. Everyone says the track needs to be dropped, but I think I have a better solution. MAKE THE CARS SHORTER. If you've never seen a modern F1 car up close in person it's quite striking how long they are. Just look at this chart. https://i.imgur.com/50Oabka.jpeg F1 cars are too long. |
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Posted: 5/24/2022 10:20:02 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not in parc ferme, doesn't count. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Max got a fine. That said, there is video that looks like he doesn’t touch anything. Not in parc ferme, doesn't count. That is most definitely post race parc ferme. The cars are awaiting scrutineering. |
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Posted: 5/24/2022 10:20:21 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Isn't that one of the objectives of the 2026 regs that they are now formulating, to make the cars smaller? Not up to speed on the 2026 regulations but I hope so. And before I get off my horse I hope my shorter, refueled F1 cars also come with V10's. |
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Posted: 5/24/2022 10:25:25 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That is most definitely post race parc ferme. The cars are awaiting scrutineering. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Max got a fine. That said, there is video that looks like he doesn’t touch anything. Not in parc ferme, doesn't count. That is most definitely post race parc ferme. The cars are awaiting scrutineering. I was repeating what I saw from an F1 journalist on twitter, which may have been incorrect. I didn't see the racing suit so I assumed it was correct. Looks like that was premature and this is being investigated. If he did touch the car under parc ferme I hope he's subject to the same penalties as Verstappen. https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hamilton-photo-prompts-spanish-gp-parc-ferme-intrigue/10309972/
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Posted: 5/24/2022 10:28:56 AM EDT
[#34]
Here's a quick "scale" comparison on how much they've grown since I started watching F1. (Trying to line up the rear axles.)
They're YUUUGE.  |
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Posted: 5/24/2022 10:34:45 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I was repeating what I saw from an F1 journalist on twitter, which may have been incorrect. I didn't see the racing suit so I assumed it was correct. Looks like that was premature and this is being investigated. If he did touch the car under parc ferme I hope he's subject to the same penalties as Verstappen. https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hamilton-photo-prompts-spanish-gp-parc-ferme-intrigue/10309972/
Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Max got a fine. That said, there is video that looks like he doesn’t touch anything. Not in parc ferme, doesn't count. That is most definitely post race parc ferme. The cars are awaiting scrutineering. I was repeating what I saw from an F1 journalist on twitter, which may have been incorrect. I didn't see the racing suit so I assumed it was correct. Looks like that was premature and this is being investigated. If he did touch the car under parc ferme I hope he's subject to the same penalties as Verstappen. https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hamilton-photo-prompts-spanish-gp-parc-ferme-intrigue/10309972/
The only reason I knew was it was shown “live” on Ted Kravitz’s “Ted’s Notebook” post race debrief. They happened to be standing in the pit lane and saw Lewis walking to the interview area after being held up for his random FIA drug screening. |
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Posted: 5/24/2022 10:41:03 AM EDT
[#36]
Quoted: Here's a quick "scale" comparison on how much they've grown since I started watching F1. (Trying to line up the rear axles.) They're YUUUGE. https://i.postimg.cc/J0n4TKhY/20220524-102316.jpg Great picture, assuming those are the same scale models. Exactly what I'm talking about. I wonder what the turning radius difference is on the real cars. Quoted: The only reason I knew was it was shown “live” on Ted Kravitz’s “Ted’s Notebook” post race debrief. They happened to be standing in the pit lane and saw Lewis walking to the interview area after being held up for his random FIA drug screening. Gotcha. Yeah, if he did what Verstappen did he deserves the same penalty. |
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Posted: 5/24/2022 10:41:23 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have a foot in both camps. Monaco is an amazing spectacle and yet the racing between drivers during the race is typically pretty poor. Everyone says the track needs to be dropped, but I think I have a better solution. MAKE THE CARS SHORTER. If you've never seen a modern F1 car up close in person it's quite striking how long they are. Just look at this chart. https://i.imgur.com/50Oabka.jpeg F1 cars are too long. I can think of one idea to accomplish this that will also improve F1 in my opinion; shrink the fuel tanks and bring back refueling. m |
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Posted: 5/24/2022 10:55:48 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: As much as I would love to see that, the FIA seems to be refueling averse. Unlike the simple refueling rigs used by CART/Indy, F1 has to use massively over-complicated rigs seemingly designed to fail. m The FIA should supply the rigs and monitor them at all times, and take them back after each practice/quali/race session. Inspect them after each race as well and disqualification for a team from the race on first offense if caught modifying them (if they're so worried). For years refueling in F1 has been my fight but for some reason there's this attitude that F1 can't do it without danger to drivers or mechanics, yet Indy, WEC, NASCAR, and numerous other series refuel every weekend without issue. I just don't understand it. F1 could even keep fuel flow and capacity limits. Only 110 litres allowed during the race? 110 litre capacity rigs. Done. They could even get cheeky with it, like no tire changing during refueling pit-stops, or vice-versa. Imagine a yellow comes out and Meredes, of course, played it right for a yellow flag stop which benefits them. Now they need to decide, do they take fuel on this stop, or tires? Then they'd have to come in again for whichever they didn't take. It could be pretty interesting. To me it's truly mind-boggling they don't re-fuel. 
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Posted: 5/24/2022 1:24:46 PM EDT
[#39]
Just wonder how many red flags during this weekend. Think it’s going to be a crash fest.
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Posted: 5/24/2022 2:22:39 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The FIA should supply the rigs and monitor them at all times, and take them back after each practice/quali/race session. Inspect them after each race as well and disqualification for a team from the race on first offense if caught modifying them (if they're so worried). For years refueling in F1 has been my fight but for some reason there's this attitude that F1 can't do it without danger to drivers or mechanics, yet Indy, WEC, NASCAR, and numerous other series refuel every weekend without issue. I just don't understand it. F1 could even keep fuel flow and capacity limits. Only 110 litres allowed during the race? 110 litre capacity rigs. Done. They could even get cheeky with it, like no tire changing during refueling pit-stops, or vice-versa. Imagine a yellow comes out and Meredes, of course, played it right for a yellow flag stop which benefits them. Now they need to decide, do they take fuel on this stop, or tires? Then they'd have to come in again for whichever they didn't take. It could be pretty interesting. To me it's truly mind-boggling they don't re-fuel. That would shake up the grid order some. |
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Posted: 5/24/2022 2:24:29 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just wonder how many red flags during this weekend. Think it's going to be a crash fest. Every inch of track can be reached by off track cranes (except right in the tunnel). Having said that, F1 has definitely become more red flag happy in the last few years. |
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Posted: 5/24/2022 2:50:15 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Here's a quick "scale" comparison on how much they've grown since I started watching F1. (Trying to line up the rear axles.) They're YUUUGE. https://i.postimg.cc/J0n4TKhY/20220524-102316.jpg Wow. Crazy what a difference that is. |
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Posted: 5/24/2022 2:56:27 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/24/2022 4:27:04 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: ... And you have to qualify with your starting fuel load. That would shake up the grid order some. I wouldn't stand in the way of such a rule. |
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Posted: 5/24/2022 7:54:35 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And replace it with what? Monaco quali is the most insane sports spectacle of the year. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: And by the way not looking forward to Monaco. Most worthless track on the circuit. That race is for celebrities and rich people. Period. There’s not racing involved in that pathetic street course. Monaco needs to be dropped. The sport has moved on... that track sucks. And replace it with what? Monaco quali is the most insane sports spectacle of the year. So then award half points for qualy and go home. They have not had a "Race" in Monaco for years. It has become a very loud Parade. |
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Posted: 5/24/2022 8:01:37 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryAs soon as he didn’t think he could win the race he immediately wanted nothing more than to not spend the next 2 hours in a hot race car. Forget the team, forget the points, forget learning someone about the new car early in the season. Lewis caring only about Lewis, pretty standard. |
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Posted: 5/24/2022 8:08:06 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So then award half points for qualy and go home. They have not had a "Race" in Monaco for years. It has become a very loud Parade. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: And by the way not looking forward to Monaco. Most worthless track on the circuit. That race is for celebrities and rich people. Period. There’s not racing involved in that pathetic street course. Monaco needs to be dropped. The sport has moved on... that track sucks. And replace it with what? Monaco quali is the most insane sports spectacle of the year. So then award half points for qualy and go home. They have not had a "Race" in Monaco for years. It has become a very loud Parade. People say that but there other races out there that are won from pole more often and they aren’t called parades. I like it. It showcases a different skill set than we see at most modern tracks where the car can be pushed past the limit regularly without a stiff penalty. Monaco is the opposite of that. Maybe it doesn’t have the daring overtake maneuvers we all love but it showcases precision mistake free driving. |
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Posted: 5/24/2022 8:43:30 PM EDT
[#48]
Without Monaco we wouldn't have experienced this:
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Posted: 5/25/2022 8:49:58 AM EDT
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MONACO GRAND PRIX SCHEDULE
FRIDAY 05/27 FP1 8AM - ESPN2 FP2 11AM - ESPN2 SATURDAY 05/28 FP3 7AM - ESPN2 QUALI 10AM - ESPN2 SUNDAY RACE 10AM - ESPN  Top 5 Dramatic Moments | Monaco Grand Prix |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 8:57:32 AM EDT
[#50]
Indycar has refueling and frankly I don’t think it adds much. It allows less flexibility in changing strategies and makes the leaderboard deceptive until sometimes the very end.
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