Quoted: No offense, but I'm not here looking for credit. My understanding of Scripture is fine. I expected you to bring up the sunburn line. (Well, actually, I expected you to bring up weather in general, but it's all the same; I've heard all the arguements before)

Well, do you suppose people would be wearing clothes even if looking at her hooters wasn't sinful?

Is it possible? Doubtful. Your wife? Absolutely! Genesis says Adam *knew* Eve. This knowledge - sight, taste, touch, etcetera - is part of marriage. No part of it was intended to be shared openly with everyone you meet.

I didn't exactly see that in that Bible quote covering the rules on nudity.

I have no reason to doubt him - but remember, lust is a heart condition. Physical action isn't required. Maybe no hanky-panky, but definitely lust - at least until your conscience became numbed to the idea of naked people running around.

Then it seems the only sensible thing to do is to look at so many naked women that I am numb to it and, therefore, safe from sin. I shall start this project today.

Of course, I grant you that if they were doing hanky-panky, that's a different story, and I would be just as outraged as you are. In fact, I volunteer to be on the undercover investigative team. Fine. Just please don't post pictures.

This thread is useless without pics. What does a naked Christian look like, anyway? I think we can bend the BOTD rules for this one.

Quoted: Then it seems the only sensible thing to do is to look at so many naked women that I am numb to it and, therefore, safe from sin. I shall start this project today.

Sounds like a fun project.

Rarely do you ever pop "wood" at a nudist colony.
Been to a couple of them, after the first few minutes you don't even notice everybody is naked.  

Quoted: Quoted: Then it seems the only sensible thing to do is to look at so many naked women that I am numb to it and, therefore, safe from sin. I shall start this project today. Sounds like a fun project.

I'm definately in....show me the bewbs!

Quoted: How can exposing my pecker to women not be about showing off?

Most of them already have husbands or boyfriends and won't be interested in you, irrelevant of how big it is. Besides, it's not the size that matters, it's how you use it. And you can't use it like THAT at a nudist resort so that's kinda out. On a sidenote, more nudist men exist than women, so if an audience is what you're looking for you probably won't  find it there.

Quoted: So do you enjoy nudity at all.....what I mean is do you ever get satisfaction looking at womenz?

You don't go to nudist resorts to look at naked people or to be seen naked by other naked people. You do it to be naked.

Best way to answer both questions is for you to go and actually try it, just don't go there and gawk, people that do that get kicked out in short order.

Quoted: Rarely do you ever pop "wood" at a nudist colony. Been to a couple of them, after the first few minutes you don't even notice everybody is naked.

I don't know, I think it is a trap for women to see how big our boners are.

Quoted: You don't go to nudist resorts to look at naked people or to be seen naked by other naked people. You do it to be naked. Best way to answer both questions is for you to go and actually try it, just don't go there and gawk, people that do that get kicked out in short order.

How does this happen?  Do a couple of naked thugs come out and kick your bare ass out?  

Quoted: Quoted: How can exposing my pecker to women not be about showing off? Most of them already have husbands or boyfriends and won't be interested in you, irrelevant of how big it is. Besides, it's not the size that matters, it's how you use it. And you can't use it like THAT at a nudist resort so that's kinda out. On a sidenote, more nudist men exist than women, so if an audience is what you're looking for you probably won't  find it there. Quoted: So do you enjoy nudity at all.....what I mean is do you ever get satisfaction looking at womenz?   You don't go to nudist resorts to look at naked people or to be seen naked by other naked people. You do it to be naked. Best way to answer both questions is for you to go and actually try it, just don't go there and gawk, people that do that get kicked out in short order.

What I ment was, do you have a button that you turn on and off.  Off for the nude beach and on for www.bigbeewbies.com?

Quoted: sad that so many can't separate nudity from sex

I probably could separate nudity from sex, after I humped em.

Actually theree was a First Century Church called hte Lukkites, they practiced community sex...they were said to be following the Secret Gospel of Luke..

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So do you enjoy nudity at all.....what I mean is do you ever get satisfaction looking at womenz?   You don't go to nudist resorts to look at naked people or to be seen naked by other naked people. You do it to be naked. Best way to answer both questions is for you to go and actually try it, just don't go there and gawk, people that do that get kicked out in short order. What I ment was, do you have a button that you turn on and off.  Off for the nude beach and on for www.bigbeewbies.com?

Nope. The button pushes itself.

Quoted: Quoted: You don't go to nudist resorts to look at naked people or to be seen naked by other naked people. You do it to be naked. Best way to answer both questions is for you to go and actually try it, just don't go there and gawk, people that do that get kicked out in short order. How does this happen?  Do a couple of naked thugs come out and kick your bare ass out?

Depends how much you resist and who's at the club at the time. If I owned a club I'd certainly keep a shotgun in the office just in case. But I don't. Handling might change from place to place.

Quoted: Quoted: sad that so many can't separate nudity from sex I probably could separate nudity from sex, after I humped em.

 That is wrong, but funny as hell

One day I will grow up.

Quoted: Actually theree was a First Century Church called hte Lukkites, they practiced community sex...they were said to be following the Secret Gospel of Luke..

There is also a religious (Christian) community in Canada that spends (or spent) most of their time naked. They didn't go to colonies. They did it everywhere in town. The most amazing thing is that it was in Canada. Not the country where I would want to live naked.

Hmmmm, while I was googling looking for the name of the community, google popped an ad for "Christian Porn". WTF!!??? I don't know if I even want to ask.

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Nutjobs who try to shoehorn their own brand of insanity into Christianity just help prove, again and again, that Jesus is the Messiah. Were He not, these nutjobs wouldn't be trying so hard to force their way into the Church. Thanks for the link! I would ask how you got that piece of reasoning, but I am afraid you might try to answer. If Christianity were false - if there were ANY way on earth for men to be saved other than through Jesus Christ, then nobody would be beating on the door of the church demanding to be taken seriously when they opened up a 'Christian nudist colony'. Throughout history, people have tried to attach all sorts of unGodly ideas to Christianity. People rarely try to imitate what is false. Uuuuh, yeah. Then how would you account for all the times they have remade "Freaky Friday"? I can't see anything you said there that is really correct. I think this piece of reasoning is all your own, shall we say.

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He tends to do that...alot!    

Quoted: Quoted: sad that so many can't separate nudity from sex I probably could separate nudity from sex, after I humped em.

Always works for me. Also makes it easier to appreciate them for their minds.

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: sad that so many can't separate nudity from sex I probably could separate nudity from sex, after I humped em.  That is wrong, but funny as hell One day I will grow up.

me too....besides, I'm picturing a crowd of hot naked hedonistic bisexual college cheerleaders......

67 year old naked wrinkley men with saggy balls makes me want to put on 5 trenchcoats, move to a one bedroom Alaskan igloo, turn all the lights out and vomit.

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Nutjobs who try to shoehorn their own brand of insanity into Christianity just help prove, again and again, that Jesus is the Messiah. Were He not, these nutjobs wouldn't be trying so hard to force their way into the Church. Thanks for the link! I would ask how you got that piece of reasoning, but I am afraid you might try to answer. If Christianity were false - if there were ANY way on earth for men to be saved other than through Jesus Christ, then nobody would be beating on the door of the church demanding to be taken seriously when they opened up a 'Christian nudist colony'. Throughout history, people have tried to attach all sorts of unGodly ideas to Christianity. People rarely try to imitate what is false.

So what does that say about Allah when people are willing to blow up their own children for him?

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: sad that so many can't separate nudity from sex I probably could separate nudity from sex, after I humped em.  That is wrong, but funny as hell One day I will grow up. me too....besides, I'm picturing a crowd of naked college cheerleaders......

Me too dozens playing volleyball, throwing around a beachball, taking jogs along the beach and rubbing hot oil on their bodies.

Quoted: Quoted: Actually theree was a First Century Church called hte Lukkites, they practiced community sex...they were said to be following the Secret Gospel of Luke.. There is also a religious (Christian) community in Canada that spends (or spent) most of their time naked. They didn't go to colonies. They did it everywhere in town. The most amazing thing is that it was in Canada. Not the country where I would want to live naked. Hmmmm, while I was googling looking for the name of the community, google popped an ad for "Christian Porn". WTF!!??? I don't know if I even want to ask.

And there's a Christian group called the Ku Klux Klan...Christianity has a bazillion forms, it's best not judged by it's most extreme members.

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Actually theree was a First Century Church called hte Lukkites, they practiced community sex...they were said to be following the Secret Gospel of Luke.. There is also a religious (Christian) community in Canada that spends (or spent) most of their time naked. They didn't go to colonies. They did it everywhere in town. The most amazing thing is that it was in Canada. Not the country where I would want to live naked. Hmmmm, while I was googling looking for the name of the community, google popped an ad for "Christian Porn". WTF!!??? I don't know if I even want to ask. And there's a Christian group called the Ku Klux Klan...Christianity has a bazillion forms, it's best not judged by it's most extreme members.

Not naked, apples to oranges.

Quoted: So what does that say about Allah when people are willing to blow up their own children for him?

Uh...nothing.


I said 'imitate', not 'follow mindlessly'.

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Actually theree was a First Century Church called hte Lukkites, they practiced community sex...they were said to be following the Secret Gospel of Luke.. There is also a religious (Christian) community in Canada that spends (or spent) most of their time naked. They didn't go to colonies. They did it everywhere in town. The most amazing thing is that it was in Canada. Not the country where I would want to live naked. Hmmmm, while I was googling looking for the name of the community, google popped an ad for "Christian Porn". WTF!!??? I don't know if I even want to ask. And there's a Christian group called the Ku Klux Klan...Christianity has a bazillion forms, it's best not judged by it's most extreme members.

Who is judging them? I am just looking for a good place to do naked Bible study.

Quoted: Quoted: me too....besides, I'm picturing a crowd of naked college cheerleaders...... Me too dozens playing volleyball, throwing around a beachball, taking jogs along the beach and rubbing hot oil on their bodies.

As I said before, most nudists are men. So if you're looking for a crowd of naked male college cheerleaders...

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: me too....besides, I'm picturing a crowd of naked college cheerleaders...... Me too dozens playing volleyball, throwing around a beachball, taking jogs along the beach and rubbing hot oil on their bodies. As I said before, most nudists are men. So if you're looking for a crowd of naked male college cheerleaders...

Nope!  All you Zatu!

Quoted: As I said before, most nudists are men.

I guess they line up with the hopes of that one hot babe shows up.

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: me too....besides, I'm picturing a crowd of naked college cheerleaders...... Me too dozens playing volleyball, throwing around a beachball, taking jogs along the beach and rubbing hot oil on their bodies. As I said before, most nudists are men. So if you're looking for a crowd of naked male college cheerleaders...

You are really screwing with my fantasies, man.

Quoted: BOOBIES!

...and if any of the ladies their have nipple piercings then they are Hole-y Boobies.

Nudist Camp with a twist

Yeah, just be careful what you twist.

Quoted: Quoted: Notice the 2 verses in red: First, after 'the fall', Adam and Eve knew (as soon as they had eaten) that they were naked, and they were (now being full of knowledge) ashamed of it. So they covered themselves. Ultra-short version: before the fall, in the absence of Knowledge, there was no need to be ashamed of their nakedness. After they eat the fruit, they knew that they were naked, and realized that (since they knew of it) there was something inherently wrong with this immodesty (again, since they were aware of it). This is reinforced in verse 21 where God made them clothes - to cover their nakedness - as they were being booted from the Garden of Eden. I will give you credit for creative thinking. Never mind the obvious usefulness of clothing in preventing sunburn, etc. But I was looking more for something along the lines of "Go, and never let me see your naked butt again."  It doesn't seem to me that God excluded all nudity forever in that. I mean, it is possible that a group of people could get together naked without thinking lustful thoughts -- just because they wanted to enjoy the breeze all over, isn't it? It's OK if my wife sees me while I am taking a shower, isn't it? From what the self-announced nudist here has told us, there ain't a lot of hanky-panky going on. Of course, I grant you that if they were doing hanky-panky, that's a different story, and I would be just as outraged as you are. In fact, I volunteer to be on the undercover investigative team.

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Yup.  There's quite a bit of analogies to the introduction of sexuality in Genesis.  Nothing wrong there...and nothing "dirty" as arowneragain is imagining.  

Quoted: So they covered themselves. Ultra-short version: before the fall, in the absence of Knowledge, there was no need to be ashamed of their nakedness. After they eat the fruit, they knew that they were naked, and realized that (since they knew of it) there was something inherently wrong with this immodesty (again, since they were aware of it). This is reinforced in verse 21 where God made them clothes - to cover their nakedness - as they were being booted from the Garden of Eden.

Children should not be exposed to nudist camps - let them become adults FIRST, before imposing that lifestyle on them.  Let the children decide after they become adults that is the lifestyle for them.  I am a firm believer in this, and personnally hold every parent who takes thier kids to a "family" nudist camp responsible for lewd behavior against a child.  I have zero respect for them, and feel very badly for the children.

We have been to nude beaches many times but these were at adult resorts.

We went to a nudist type place once, and did not expect to see children - but when we realized children were there we left immediately.  We saw some little girl, about 7-8 years old in the nude and that was just too much for us to handle.  We felt like child molesters, although we did nothing wrong except check out someplace that looked interesting.  I do not want to see naked kiddies because thier parents have brought them there.  Those parents are fucked up.

It is one thing to be naked around other like minded adults to tan, swim, and even socialize.  It is another thing entirely to impose this on your children, and shame on the folks who do that.  They are just messed up and think they are correct no matter what you say.  They say folks like us are sex fiends, and they are some kind of purists - I say yes we are consenting adult sex fiends, and they are child porn fucked up sicko perverts.  I am right, they are wrong - PERIOD.

If your a member of TANNR or whatever that nudist organization is - I say you are fucked up.  Now if you add Christianity to the equation - I now say your royally fucked up but that does not surprise us that you try to use religion to cloak your sickness and desire to watch nude children frolicking.  These are sick people.

We leave for Hedonism II again in February for our 23rd trip.  You have to be at least 18 to enter the resort.  If they lowered that age at all we would stop going there.  PERIOD.

Anyone who has thier children go naked in front of other adults is fucked up - let the kids grow up first, and in the meantime go get some therapy for your secret little child porn urges - because you are a sick fuck no matter how you TRY to justify it.

Please do not post pics!

That is all.

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I can't see anything you said there that is really correct. I think this piece of reasoning is all your own, shall we say. I'm calling your bluff on that one - potheads don't think. Whom did you erroneously assume was a pothead? Nobody. I neither made error nor assumption. You, sir, are a pothead. I suppose that now you'll try to tell me you don't smoke pot; you just think it should be legal on some matter of principle, but I 1) seriously doubt that, and 2) find it irrelevant, as I make no distinction between morons who use drugs, and morons who would legalize drugs.

I have no use for morons who blindly believe in their false religions who also try to force their broken morals upon others.

Nudity != sex. That is one of the major problems with the United States, is that we automatically equate being naked with sexuality. This concept is rather odd though, and I find taking your children to a nudist camp to be very strange indeed.

For any "Blah blah Christianity blah blah naked blah blah modest blah blah pants" people:

http://www.fkk-online.de/205_args.htm

Reasons 180-204 are for you.

Quoted: Children should not be exposed to nudist camps - let them become adults FIRST, before imposing that lifestyle on them.  Let the children decide after they become adults that is the lifestyle for them.  I am a firm believer in this, and personnally hold every parent who takes thier kids to a "family" nudist camp responsible for lewd behavior against a child.  I have zero respect for them, and feel very badly for the children. We have been to nude beaches many times but these were at adult resorts. We went to a nudist type place once, and did not expect to see children - but when we realized children were there we left immediately.  We saw some little girl, about 7-8 years old in the nude and that was just too much for us to handle.  We felt like child molesters, although we did nothing wrong except check out someplace that looked interesting.  I do not want to see naked kiddies because thier parents have brought them there.  Those parents are fucked up. It is one thing to be naked around other like minded adults to tan, swim, and even socialize.  It is another thing entirely to impose this on your children, and shame on the folks who do that.  They are just messed up and think they are correct no matter what you say.  They say folks like us are sex fiends, and they are some kind of purists - I say yes we are consenting adult sex fiends, and they are child porn fucked up sicko perverts.  I am right, they are wrong - PERIOD. If your a member of TANNR or whatever that nudist organization is - I say you are fucked up.  Now if you add Christianity to the equation - I now say your royally fucked up but that does not surprise us that you try to use religion to cloak your sickness and desire to watch nude children frolicking.  These are sick people. We leave for Hedonism II again in February for our 23rd trip.  You have to be at least 18 to enter the resort.  If they lowered that age at all we would stop going there.  PERIOD. Anyone who has thier children go naked in front of other adults is fucked up - let the kids grow up first, and in the meantime go get some therapy for your secret little child porn urges - because you are a sick fuck no matter how you TRY to justify it. Please do not post pics! That is all.

Were you talking to me?

ETA highlight.

"Christian Porn". WTF!!???

A friend of mine was involved in Christian Rock, they were loser rock musicans and there were groupies and drugs. Human nature is the same...

Has anyone here been to a nudist camp?  I have...unwillingly! I kept my clothes on too by the way!

A while back while working a civil case it reuired me to make a trip out to this gal's house.  The address ended up being in a rather rural area.  Even worse, it was inside a nudist camp.  The outside of the place was like a mini Ft. Knox.  I have since decided that the extreme measures at the perimeter were not for privacy but rather to shield the outsiders from eye trauma.  These were the absolute last people on Earth who should ever bee seen naked in public. hippie.gif