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Posted: 1/4/2012 5:56:07 PM EDT

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If you don't break the law then what do you have to worry about?

The law is whatever they say it is.

Posted: 1/4/2012 5:58:04 PM EDT

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with all of the drunk driving threads and forced blood tests here lately it seems most people wont have a problem with it.....

ETA: DNA for a Misdemeanor??

well it is the logical next step. after that it's going to be "just provide it". I'm actually shocked they don't take it at birth and store it.

Check this out:

http://www.texastribune.org/texas-state-agencies/department-of-state-health-services/dshs-turned-over-hundreds-of-dna-samples-to-feds/

...they didn't commit any crimes so there is nothing to worry about right.....

Posted: 1/4/2012 5:58:43 PM EDT

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They already do it for finger prints and keep them on file to solve later cases. DNA is the next logical step.

Posted: 1/4/2012 6:04:29 PM EDT

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California already does this. Idiots here formed a majority to vote for an initiative that requires it even if you are only arrested. When I was arrested after a defensive shooting I was required to provide a DNA sample during the booking process. When I refused, I was restrained and it was taken from me. There's no way as far as I know to get it out of the system under this law.

How were you restrained?

Posted: 1/5/2012 3:24:40 AM EDT

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with all of the drunk driving threads and forced blood tests here lately it seems most people wont have a problem with it.....

ETA: DNA for a Misdemeanor??

well it is the logical next step. after that it's going to be "just provide it". I'm actually shocked they don't take it at birth and store it.

Check this out:

http://www.texastribune.org/texas-state-agencies/department-of-state-health-services/dshs-turned-over-hundreds-of-dna-samples-to-feds/

...they didn't commit any crimes so there is nothing to worry about right.....

holy crap!

Posted: 1/5/2012 3:35:59 AM EDT

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From someone who is behind enemy lines: Cuomo is real trouble people. He is a gifted politician and a rising star in the Dem's stable of potential future national candidates.

New York has always been a repository of the batshit insane contingent of the left allowed to run amok.

Posted: 1/5/2012 3:46:03 AM EDT

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From someone who is behind enemy lines: Cuomo is real trouble people. He is a gifted politician and a rising star in the Dem's stable of potential future national candidates.

New York has always been a repository of the batshit insane contingent of the left allowed to run amok.

Well said. It really has been that way- going back hundreds of years! This DNA grab will just end up like COBIS, as stated in previous posts. I wonder how much of this is Cuomo trying to act as Governor and de facto NY Attorney General. I understand he does not like the current NY AG at all.

Posted: 1/5/2012 6:20:47 AM EDT

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The New York Times targeted the last Governor to get him out of the way so they could help get Coumo in office. If the NYT is willing to ruin a blind black liberal you can imagine what hopes they are pinning on their boy Cuomo

Posted: 1/5/2012 6:25:56 AM EDT

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with all of the drunk driving threads and forced blood tests here lately it seems most people wont have a problem with it.....

ETA: DNA for a Misdemeanor??

well it is the logical next step. after that it's going to be "just provide it". I'm actually shocked they don't take it at birth and store it.

They do in Virginia.

Posted: 1/5/2012 6:29:59 AM EDT

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From someone who is behind enemy lines: Cuomo is real trouble people. He is a gifted politician and a rising star in the Dem's stable of potential future national candidates.

Correct. They are already grooming him for a 2016 run. If he gets married in the next 2 years you can be sure that he will be making a run at it.

Posted: 1/5/2012 6:33:04 AM EDT

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From someone who is behind enemy lines: Cuomo is real trouble people. He is a gifted politician and a rising star in the Dem's stable of potential future national candidates.

New York has always been a repository of the batshit insane contingent of the left allowed to run amok.

But not Cuomo, he is building a moderate track record and is winning over a lot of moderate North East republicans. He is not a Batshit McCarthy NY Lib, he is a smooth talker and will fool a lot of people when it comes time to run.

I also have it on good information that he is dumber than a box of rocks

Posted: 1/5/2012 6:48:42 AM EDT

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with all of the drunk driving threads and forced blood tests here lately it seems most people wont have a problem with it.....

ETA: DNA for a Misdemeanor??

well it is the logical next step. after that it's going to be "just provide it". I'm actually shocked they don't take it at birth and store it.

They do in Virginia.

Can you elaborate?

Posted: 1/5/2012 6:52:02 AM EDT

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This isn't new.

A.R.S. 13-610

13-610. DNA testing

A. Within thirty days after a person is sentenced to the state department of corrections or a person who is accepted under the interstate compact for the supervision of parolees and probationers arrives in this state, the state department of corrections shall secure a sufficient sample of blood or other bodily substances for deoxyribonucleic acid testing and extraction from the person if the person was convicted of an offense listed in this section and was sentenced to a term of imprisonment or was convicted of any offense that was committed in another jurisdiction that if committed in this state would be a violation of any offense listed in this section and the person is under the supervision of the state department of corrections. The state department of corrections shall transmit the sample to the department of public safety.

B. Within thirty days after a person is placed on probation and sentenced to a term of incarceration in a county jail detention facility or is detained in a county juvenile detention facility, the county detention facility shall secure a sufficient sample of blood or other bodily substances for deoxyribonucleic acid testing and extraction from the person if the person was convicted of or adjudicated delinquent for an offense listed in this section. The county detention facility shall transmit the sample to the department of public safety.

C. Within thirty days after a person is convicted and placed on probation without a term of incarceration or adjudicated delinquent and placed on probation, the county probation department shall secure a sufficient sample of blood or other bodily substances for deoxyribonucleic acid testing and extraction from the person if the person was convicted of or adjudicated delinquent for an offense listed in this section. The county probation department shall transmit the sample to the department of public safety.

D. Within thirty days after the arrival of a person who is accepted under the interstate compact for the supervision of parolees and probationers and who is under the supervision of a county probation department, the county probation department shall secure a sufficient sample of blood or other bodily substances for deoxyribonucleic acid testing and extraction from the person if the person was convicted of an offense that was committed in another jurisdiction that if committed in this state would be a violation of any offense listed in this section and was sentenced to a term of probation. The county probation department shall transmit the sample to the department of public safety.

E. Within thirty days after a juvenile is committed to the department of juvenile corrections, the department of juvenile corrections shall secure a sufficient sample of blood or other bodily substances for deoxyribonucleic acid testing and extraction from the youth if the youth was adjudicated delinquent for an offense listed in this section and was committed to a secure care facility. The department of juvenile corrections shall transmit the sample to the department of public safety.

F. Within thirty days after the arrival in this state of a juvenile who is accepted by the department of juvenile corrections pursuant to the interstate compact on juveniles and who was adjudicated for an offense that was committed in another jurisdiction that if committed in this state would be a violation of any offense listed in this section, the compact administrator shall request that the sending state impose as a condition of supervision that the juvenile submit a sufficient sample of blood or other bodily substances for deoxyribonucleic acid testing. If the sending state does not impose that condition, the department of juvenile corrections shall request a sufficient sample of blood or other bodily substances for deoxyribonucleic acid testing within thirty days after the juvenile's arrival in this state. The department of juvenile corrections shall transmit the sample to the department of public safety.

G. Notwithstanding subsections A through F, K, L and O of this section, the agency that is responsible for securing a sample pursuant to this section shall not secure the sample if the scientific criminal analysis section of the department of public safety has previously received and is maintaining a sample sufficient for deoxyribonucleic acid testing.

H. The department of public safety shall do all of the following:

1. Conduct or oversee through mutual agreement an analysis of the samples that it receives pursuant to subsections K, L and O of this section.

2. Make and maintain a report of the results of each deoxyribonucleic acid analysis.

3. Maintain samples of blood and other bodily substances for at least thirty-five years.

I. Any sample and the result of any test that is obtained pursuant to this section or section 8-238 may be used only as follows:

1. For law enforcement identification purposes.

2. In a proceeding in a criminal prosecution or juvenile adjudication.

3. In a proceeding under title 36, chapter 37.

J. If the conviction or adjudication of a person who is subject to this section or section 8-238 is overturned on appeal or postconviction relief and a final mandate has been issued, on petition of the person to the superior court in the county in which the conviction occurred, the court shall order that the person's deoxyribonucleic acid profile resulting from that conviction or adjudication be expunged from the Arizona deoxyribonucleic acid identification system established by section 41-2418 unless the person has been convicted or adjudicated delinquent of another offense that would require the person to submit to deoxyribonucleic acid testing pursuant to this section.

K. If a person is arrested for any offense listed in subsection O, paragraph 3 of this section and is transferred by the arresting authority to a state, county or local law enforcement agency or jail, the arresting authority or its designee shall secure a sufficient sample of buccal cells or other bodily substances for deoxyribonucleic acid testing and extraction from the person for the purpose of determining identification characteristics. The arresting authority or its designee shall transmit the sample to the department of public safety.

L. A person who is charged with a felony or misdemeanor offense listed in subsection O, paragraph 3 of this section and who is summoned to appear in court for an initial appearance shall report within five days of release on bail or on the person's own recognizance to the law enforcement agency that investigated the person or its designee and submit a sufficient sample of buccal cells or other bodily substances for deoxyribonucleic acid testing and extraction. The arresting authority or its designee shall transmit the sample to the department of public safety.

M. A person who is subject to subsection K or L of this section or section 8-238 may petition the superior court in the county in which the arrest occurred or the criminal charge was filed to order that the person's deoxyribonucleic acid profile and sample be expunged from the Arizona deoxyribonucleic acid identification system, unless the person has been arrested, charged with or convicted of or adjudicated delinquent of another offense that would require the person to submit to deoxyribonucleic acid testing pursuant to this section, if any of the following applies:

1. The criminal charges are not filed within the applicable period prescribed by section 13-107.

2. The criminal charges are dismissed.

3. The person is acquitted at trial.

N. If any sample that is submitted to the department of public safety under this section or section 8-238 is found to be unacceptable for analysis and use or cannot be used by the department, the department shall require that another sample of blood or other bodily substances be secured pursuant to this section.

O. This section applies to persons who are:

1. Convicted of any felony offense.

2. Adjudicated delinquent for any of the following offenses:

(a) A violation or an attempt to violate any offense in chapter 11 of this title, any felony offense in chapter 14 or 35.1 of this title or section 13-1507, 13-1508 or 13-3608.

(b) Any offense for which a person is required to register pursuant to section 13-3821.

(c) A violation of any felony offense in chapter 34 of this title that may be prosecuted pursuant to section 13-501, subsection B, paragraph 2.

(d) A violation of any felony offense that is listed in section 13-501.

3. Arrested for a violation of any offense in chapter 11 of this title, a violation of section 13-1402, 13-1403, 13-1404, 13-1405, 13-1406, 13-1410, 13-1411, 13-1417, 13-1507, 13-1508, 13-3208, 13-3214, 13-3555 or 13-3608 or a violation of any serious offense as defined in section 13-706 that is a dangerous offense.

Posted: 1/5/2012 6:53:32 AM EDT

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If you don't break the law then what do you have to worry about?

slippery slope is super slippery

Posted: 1/5/2012 6:54:48 AM EDT

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with all of the drunk driving threads and forced blood tests here lately it seems most people wont have a problem with it.....

ETA: DNA for a Misdemeanor??

well it is the logical next step. after that it's going to be "just provide it". I'm actually shocked they don't take it at birth and store it.

They do in Virginia.

Can you elaborate?

12VAC5-71-70. Newborn dried-blood-spot screening specimen collection, specimen submission, and notification for hospital deliveries.