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Posted: 1/17/2021 5:36:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The first time those weekend warriors kill any American Citizens, will be the beginning of the end of the loony democrats! The guard has already shot folks before and probably will again..  |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 5:41:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/470854/Screenshot_20210115-012128_Instagram_jpg-1781747.JPG ...I'm not too worried. You do know that’s how rifles with optics are stored in older style cases, right? |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 5:57:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I find it strange that anybody would find fault with giving them the ability to use deadly force to prevent imminent death or serious bodily harm to themselves or others. Confused....are talking about them guarding the people's house using deadly force on American citizens just because those who just pulled a political coup are afraid of those they say elected the most popular President. Using deadly force against those they say should be put in reeducation camps, should not be able work except in lowly jobs, have even called for their demise and incarceratio by some because WE THE PEOPLE are to dangerous to be allowed in public. Those they are censoring, doxxing, firing from their jobs. Do I need to go on. Oh one more....wanting to remove elected conservative representatives because THEY SAID, they are instigators of rebellion against them without any proof what So ever. All they while they enforced the violence by terrorist groups ANTIFA and BLM. Yeah I do find it very strange they'd allow use of deadly force against conservative protestors. Yet actually let their army of terrorist ANTIFA and BLM do billions in damage, riot, burn , loot, attempt to murder LEOs and yes even murder. Yet do it say nothing. As a matter of fact they attempted to stop President Trump from dropping their army of terrorist. So to answer your question. I have a hugh Damon problem with these criminals in Washington who just pulled a political coup of the United States of America |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 6:00:37 PM EDT
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A simple "About! Face! and "Fire", should do the trick.
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Posted: 1/17/2021 6:01:02 PM EDT
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Of course. It is THEIR power being threatened, for a change.
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Posted: 1/17/2021 6:06:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The NG has been called out in a majority of states for protests and riots over the last 2 years. Please show me how many citizens they have shot and why those citizens got shot. I'll wait... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So we are using the military to shoot citizens who may wish to protest against their elected officials? Sounds totally American to me. Man your playing bullshit game for all it's worth aren't you. One post show me how the ROE have changed between conservative protectors and ANTIFA and BLM rioters who these criminals in Washington support. You know how they've changed so knock your crap off.I Yeah NG has been called out. I'm sure their ROE was the same that was just given them against conservatives as it was against the socialist extremist 's army of ANTIFA and blm. You can well know they did not have orders to use deadly force in ANTIFA and blm.. Some people are a damn joke trying to defend these criminals in Washington. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 6:14:42 PM EDT
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How many Lon Horiuchis among them? My guess is more than a few.
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Posted: 1/17/2021 6:16:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wait for what? Did I say any had been shot yet? Link says they have been authorized to shoot fellow Americans. Not sure what your intentions are, but most of your responses in this thread are coming across as rude and argumentative. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: So we are using the military to shoot citizens who may wish to protest against their elected officials? Sounds totally American to me. Wait for what? Did I say any had been shot yet? Link says they have been authorized to shoot fellow Americans. Not sure what your intentions are, but most of your responses in this thread are coming across as rude and argumentative. No they are coming across as it being ok to use deadly force against conservative protesters. Then acting like the NG was given the same ROE for ANTIFA and blm. Under the democrats it's wrong to fire upon their army, ANTIFA and blm. But more than fine to shoot and kill conservative American citizens protesting against their criminal activity of a corrupted election. Let tell you something. It would be the worst mistake in history for those NG to fire upon American citizens in Washington protesting. These fools are sitting on top of a hugh amount of powder right now that's ready to explode. Explode into something this world has not seen in hundreds of years. There will be an awaking alright. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 6:17:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sorry was just trying to bring a bit of inappropriate humor to the fact that US citizens exercising their constitutionally protected rights are facing a bigger military force than nations full of people who would kill any American in a heartbeat. 
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Posted: 1/17/2021 6:23:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Man your playing bullshit game for all it's worth aren't you. One post show me how the ROE have changed between conservative protectors and ANTIFA and BLM rioters who these criminals in Washington support. You know how they've changed so knock your crap off.I Yeah NG has been called out. I'm sure their ROE was the same that was just given them against conservatives as it was against the socialist extremist 's army of ANTIFA and blm. You can well know they did not have orders to use deadly force in ANTIFA and blm.. Some people are a damn joke trying to defend these criminals in Washington. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: So we are using the military to shoot citizens who may wish to protest against their elected officials? Sounds totally American to me. Man your playing bullshit game for all it's worth aren't you. One post show me how the ROE have changed between conservative protectors and ANTIFA and BLM rioters who these criminals in Washington support. You know how they've changed so knock your crap off.I Yeah NG has been called out. I'm sure their ROE was the same that was just given them against conservatives as it was against the socialist extremist 's army of ANTIFA and blm. You can well know they did not have orders to use deadly force in ANTIFA and blm.. Some people are a damn joke trying to defend these criminals in Washington. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 6:24:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nobody is clearing NG troops to shoot people protesting. That's hyperbole. They have been rightfully granted to ability to use deadly force to prevent an imminent threat of death or serious bodily harm. Federal law has this codified and it's been that way for a long time. The standards have been tested all the way up to SCOTUS. If someone fucks up and operates outside the standard, they'll be judged for it.  The Democratic socialist extremist party has made it perfectly clear who and what they consider a threat. Any protestor that supports Trump is a Nazi right wing extremist. All conservatives protectors will be consider armed right wing extremist and a threat. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 6:29:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/temp-95.gif The Democratic socialist extremist party has made it perfectly clear who and what they consider a threat. Any protestor that supports Trump is a Nazi right wing extremist. All conservatives protectors will be consider armed right wing extremist and a threat. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Nobody is clearing NG troops to shoot people protesting. That's hyperbole. They have been rightfully granted to ability to use deadly force to prevent an imminent threat of death or serious bodily harm. Federal law has this codified and it's been that way for a long time. The standards have been tested all the way up to SCOTUS. If someone fucks up and operates outside the standard, they'll be judged for it. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/temp-95.gif The Democratic socialist extremist party has made it perfectly clear who and what they consider a threat. Any protestor that supports Trump is a Nazi right wing extremist. All conservatives protectors will be consider armed right wing extremist and a threat. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 6:29:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm talking about NG troops being trained and briefed under which conditions they are legally justified in using deadly force. You are obviously vested in this some how and are not saying why. You are defending the actions of Biden, Pelosi ect and their fear and this use of deadly force rule against conservatives and Trump supporters. From all your posts. You've got a ball in this game some how. No one defends the use of deadly force against American people like this. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 6:31:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Every civil disturbance event the NG has been involved in for the last 3 years has been political bullshit to one degree or another. Yeah something's not right with you defending this so hard. You just keep repeating yourself. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 6:32:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You are obviously vested in this some how and are not saying why. You are defending the actions of Biden, Pelosi ect and their fear and this use of deadly force rule against conservatives and Trump supporters. From all your posts. You've got a ball in this game some how. No one defends the use of deadly force against American people like this. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm talking about NG troops being trained and briefed under which conditions they are legally justified in using deadly force. You are obviously vested in this some how and are not saying why. You are defending the actions of Biden, Pelosi ect and their fear and this use of deadly force rule against conservatives and Trump supporters. From all your posts. You've got a ball in this game some how. No one defends the use of deadly force against American people like this. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 6:32:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep, burn down our cities, harm our citizens, loot, rob, and no protection for you, serf! BUT....scare a couple of .gov officials and GAME ON! If people don't notice the "Two Tiered" justice system, wellllll.......I just don't know what to tell ya. 10ring  This |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 6:33:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder what the reaction of the people of the USA will be if and when the 'troops' unload and kill a whole bunch or just a few fellow citizens? The same reaction as Ashli Babbitt's murder. Roughly half of the country would view their dead "fellow citizens" as domestic terrorists and the internet would be full of snide or "...win stupid prizes" comments. As for NG having ammo and/or shooting citizens... KYNG assisting Louisville Metro PD shot and killed a guy who was shooting at LMPD officers last summer. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 6:33:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah something's not right with you defending this so hard. You just keep repeating yourself. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Every civil disturbance event the NG has been involved in for the last 3 years has been political bullshit to one degree or another. Yeah something's not right with you defending this so hard. You just keep repeating yourself. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 6:33:29 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/17/2021 6:43:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: All this to prevent a Biden inauguration from turning into a Trump rally... Surely you're not referring to the inauguration of the most popular president ever! How could that tur into a Trump rally? |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 6:45:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The guard has already shot folks before and probably will again.. Different times and different political environment than before. Totally different circumstances if it happens. As will the reply unfortunately. I'm not condoning it nor would I promote it. But if those National Guardsmen fire upon American conservative and Trump protestors. I'm afraid they would have painted targets not only on their backs. But thier families backs where ever they came from. Because when everything is over. They hang up that uniform and go home among those very people they fired upon. Tell me nothing will happen. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 6:47:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Different times and different political environment than before. Totally different circumstances if it happens. As will the reply unfortunately. I'm not condoning it nor would I promote it. But if those National Guardsmen fire upon American conservative and Trump protestors. I'm afraid they would have painted targets not only on their backs. But thier families backs where ever they came from. Because when everything is over. They hang up that uniform and go home among those very people they fired upon. Tell me nothing will happen. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The guard has already shot folks before and probably will again.. Different times and different political environment than before. Totally different circumstances if it happens. As will the reply unfortunately. I'm not condoning it nor would I promote it. But if those National Guardsmen fire upon American conservative and Trump protestors. I'm afraid they would have painted targets not only on their backs. But thier families backs where ever they came from. Because when everything is over. They hang up that uniform and go home among those very people they fired upon. Tell me nothing will happen. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 6:47:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm simply trying to interject facts into all this hyperbole. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Every civil disturbance event the NG has been involved in for the last 3 years has been political bullshit to one degree or another. Yeah something's not right with you defending this so hard. You just keep repeating yourself. You keep using those hyperbole alot don't you. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 6:48:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I get that we're all somewhat guilty of only seeing what confirms our beliefs, but you've got to be fucking retarded not to have seen the Guard called out across the country for Antifa/BLM riots for the last couple of years. They were armed then and were cleared in using deadly force then to protect themselves and others from an imminent threat of death or serious bodily harm. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Cleared to use lethal force when protests are at their doorstep. Not even requested to assist when BLM/Antifa were burning, looting, firebombing, hijacking, and vandalizing our hometowns. But they didn’t protect life and property with deadly force, now did they? |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 6:57:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Different times and different political environment than before. Totally different circumstances if it happens. As will the reply unfortunately. I'm not condoning it nor would I promote it. But if those National Guardsmen fire upon American conservative and Trump protestors. I'm afraid they would have painted targets not only on their backs. But thier families backs where ever they came from. Because when everything is over. They hang up that uniform and go home among those very people they fired upon. Tell me nothing will happen. This past summer they shot a restaurant owner who shot at them. Literally a few months ago, still in the current short memory span of everyone. Don’t shoot at the guard |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 6:59:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If the circumstances of the use of deadly force don't meet the legal standards for objective reasonableness, then rightfully so. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: The guard has already shot folks before and probably will again.. Different times and different political environment than before. Totally different circumstances if it happens. As will the reply unfortunately. I'm not condoning it nor would I promote it. But if those National Guardsmen fire upon American conservative and Trump protestors. I'm afraid they would have painted targets not only on their backs. But thier families backs where ever they came from. Because when everything is over. They hang up that uniform and go home among those very people they fired upon. Tell me nothing will happen. Honestly I believe it will not matter one bit. The only thing Americans at home will see are dead conservative and Trump supporters period. Then say the DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST EXTREMISTS PARTY army of ANTIFA and BLM did billions in damage. Destroyed the lives of thousands, rioted, looted, burned, tried to burn LEOs alive at one point in their station. Even murdered INNOCIENT American citizens. But for the most part the national guard and officers in those commie states just stood there and did nothing. You see that's the image that's burned into the minds of Americans. Nothing was done to stop the socialists ARMY of TERRORIST. Just like the image will be only of American Patriots being gunned down by those protecting these criminals of an illegal government in Washington. If it happens. Let's hope it does not. You can repeat or rather interject your facts into all this hyperboles. Again, please feel free to repeat your justification for killing AMERICAN protesters here and not else where. Don't say they did because they did not stop nothing from happening. Billions in damages and thousands of people's lives destroyed. Not one word from the SOCIALIST EXTREMISTS PARTY occupying Washington illegally. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 7:01:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This past summer they shot a restaurant owner who shot at them. Literally a few months ago, still in the current short memory span of everyone. Don’t shoot at the guard Missed that, but how's that compare to conservative and Trump supporters in Washington protesting if it happens. Read my previous post above. Americans will only see conservatives and Trump supporters shot. Yet remember that nothing happened to ANTIFA and BLM when they attacked the American people. Please defend and justify the differences. If it happens. I hope it does not. Because it will ignite a powder keg in this nation. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 7:13:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But they didn't protect life and property with deadly force, now did they? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Cleared to use lethal force when protests are at their doorstep. Not even requested to assist when BLM/Antifa were burning, looting, firebombing, hijacking, and vandalizing our hometowns. But they didn't protect life and property with deadly force, now did they? |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 7:13:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You keep using those hyperbole alot don't you. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Every civil disturbance event the NG has been involved in for the last 3 years has been political bullshit to one degree or another. Yeah something's not right with you defending this so hard. You just keep repeating yourself. You keep using those hyperbole alot don't you. noun exaggerated statements or claims not meant to be taken literally. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 7:17:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Missed that, but how's that compare to conservative and Trump supporters in Washington protesting if it happens. Read my previous post above. Americans will only see conservatives and Trump supporters shot. Yet remember that nothing happened to ANTIFA and BLM when they attacked the American people. Please defend and justify the differences. If it happens. I hope it does not. Because it will ignite a powder keg in this nation. Every brief I have seen states “the right to self defense is paramount”. It never says you can or implies force should be used or lessens the need. It is the same brief used across the USA. Nothing has changed. Should the guard have responded on day 1 of the Floyd riots with the same intensity as they have for the capitol protests? Yes. Is there anything different in the RUF? No. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 8:35:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They fall under the same rules for the use of force that civilian law enforcement officers fall under. They vary somewhat from state to state. The NG has been operating under these rules during all of the ANTIFA and BLM riots that they have been called to for the last 1-2 years. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm talking about NG troops being trained and briefed under which conditions they are legally justified in using deadly force. You are obviously vested in this some how and are not saying why. You are defending the actions of Biden, Pelosi ect and their fear and this use of deadly force rule against conservatives and Trump supporters. From all your posts. You've got a ball in this game some how. No one defends the use of deadly force against American people like this. Does that include immunity too? |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 8:45:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Does that include immunity too? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm talking about NG troops being trained and briefed under which conditions they are legally justified in using deadly force. You are obviously vested in this some how and are not saying why. You are defending the actions of Biden, Pelosi ect and their fear and this use of deadly force rule against conservatives and Trump supporters. From all your posts. You've got a ball in this game some how. No one defends the use of deadly force against American people like this. Does that include immunity too? |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 8:55:22 PM EDT
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I call bs. I havent seen anyone with a mag in their weapon.
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Posted: 1/17/2021 8:56:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I call bs. I havent seen anyone with a mag in their weapon. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 9:00:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Varies state by state but they are afforded the same legal protections as qualified law enforcement when acting under the governor's direction in this role. They will be held to the objective reasonableness standard and will be required to articulate an imminent threat of death or serious bodily harm or one of the other, limited, prerequisites for the use of deadly force. If they can not articulate, coupled with evidence gathered in a use of force review, they could legally be charged with any number of crimes. This has been the case with all NG civil disturbance operations that I've been privy to in a number of states. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm talking about NG troops being trained and briefed under which conditions they are legally justified in using deadly force. You are obviously vested in this some how and are not saying why. You are defending the actions of Biden, Pelosi ect and their fear and this use of deadly force rule against conservatives and Trump supporters. From all your posts. You've got a ball in this game some how. No one defends the use of deadly force against American people like this. Does that include immunity too? Which hasn't changed for decades, other than maybe a couple one-off scenarios? I think this is why people think you are defending [take your pick]: The NG troops at the U.S. Capitol still have the same deadly force auth they've always had. However, the clear implication from the thread title is that the NG troops have just now been cleared for additional justifications for the use of deadly force. I read the thread title and like so many in my position might, knowing that the NG already has auth to use deadly force, automatically thought 'What additional reasons did they get to use deadly force for the U.S. Capitol situation?' Into this thread you waltzed with some crappy phrasing amongst posters who might not be asking the right questions. What was your first post? Quoted: I find it strange that anybody would find fault with giving them the ability to use deadly force to prevent imminent death or serious bodily harm to themselves or others. Your very first post on the very first page fed right into that cluster fuck. "Giving them the ability"? That's why I asked you to clarify it, because I didn't think that's what you meant. Take all that for what you will. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 9:10:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Which hasn't changed for decades, other than maybe a couple one-off scenarios? I think this is why people think you are defending [take your pick]: The NG troops at the U.S. Capitol still have the same deadly force auth they've always had. However, the clear implication from the thread title is that the NG troops have just now been cleared for additional justifications for the use of deadly force. I read the thread title and like so many in my position might, knowing that the NG already has auth to use deadly force, automatically thought 'What additional reasons did they get to use deadly force for the U.S. Capitol situation?' Into this thread you waltzed with some crappy phrasing amongst posters who might not be asking the right questions. What was your first post? Your very first post on the very first page fed right into that cluster fuck. "Giving them the ability"? That's why I asked you to clarify it, because I didn't think that's what you meant. Take all that for what you will. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm talking about NG troops being trained and briefed under which conditions they are legally justified in using deadly force. You are obviously vested in this some how and are not saying why. You are defending the actions of Biden, Pelosi ect and their fear and this use of deadly force rule against conservatives and Trump supporters. From all your posts. You've got a ball in this game some how. No one defends the use of deadly force against American people like this. Does that include immunity too? Which hasn't changed for decades, other than maybe a couple one-off scenarios? I think this is why people think you are defending [take your pick]: The NG troops at the U.S. Capitol still have the same deadly force auth they've always had. However, the clear implication from the thread title is that the NG troops have just now been cleared for additional justifications for the use of deadly force. I read the thread title and like so many in my position might, knowing that the NG already has auth to use deadly force, automatically thought 'What additional reasons did they get to use deadly force for the U.S. Capitol situation?' Into this thread you waltzed with some crappy phrasing amongst posters who might not be asking the right questions. What was your first post? Quoted: I find it strange that anybody would find fault with giving them the ability to use deadly force to prevent imminent death or serious bodily harm to themselves or others. Your very first post on the very first page fed right into that cluster fuck. "Giving them the ability"? That's why I asked you to clarify it, because I didn't think that's what you meant. Take all that for what you will. The guard doesn't self deploy. They have to be called up by their respective governor. When they are farmed out to another state or territory through an EMAC, both governors and TAG's have to agree to the rules and laws they will be subject to. An example: Oregon requested assistance from other states but the governor of Oregon said no other states would be armed in Oregon. Most states told Oregon to pound sand as a result. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 9:16:07 PM EDT
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 Use of unnecessary violence Blues Brothers |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 9:20:30 PM EDT
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With their unloaded rifles?
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Posted: 1/17/2021 9:28:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The guard doesn't self deploy. They have to be called up by their respective governor. When they are farmed out to another state or territory through an EMAC, both governors and TAG's have to agree to the rules and laws they will be subject to. An example: Oregon requested assistance from other states but the governor of Oregon said no other states would be armed in Oregon. Most states told Oregon to pound sand as a result. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm talking about NG troops being trained and briefed under which conditions they are legally justified in using deadly force. You are obviously vested in this some how and are not saying why. You are defending the actions of Biden, Pelosi ect and their fear and this use of deadly force rule against conservatives and Trump supporters. From all your posts. You've got a ball in this game some how. No one defends the use of deadly force against American people like this. Does that include immunity too? Which hasn't changed for decades, other than maybe a couple one-off scenarios? I think this is why people think you are defending [take your pick]: The NG troops at the U.S. Capitol still have the same deadly force auth they've always had. However, the clear implication from the thread title is that the NG troops have just now been cleared for additional justifications for the use of deadly force. I read the thread title and like so many in my position might, knowing that the NG already has auth to use deadly force, automatically thought 'What additional reasons did they get to use deadly force for the U.S. Capitol situation?' Into this thread you waltzed with some crappy phrasing amongst posters who might not be asking the right questions. What was your first post? Quoted: I find it strange that anybody would find fault with giving them the ability to use deadly force to prevent imminent death or serious bodily harm to themselves or others. Your very first post on the very first page fed right into that cluster fuck. "Giving them the ability"? That's why I asked you to clarify it, because I didn't think that's what you meant. Take all that for what you will. The guard doesn't self deploy. They have to be called up by their respective governor. When they are farmed out to another state or territory through an EMAC, both governors and TAG's have to agree to the rules and laws they will be subject to. An example: Oregon requested assistance from other states but the governor of Oregon said no other states would be armed in Oregon. Most states told Oregon to pound sand as a result. Which literally has nothing to do with the basic right to self defense that every NG troop has as a person. You and your shittily phrased 'answers' haven't adequately addressed anything in this thread. Here, try this: What additional justifications for the use of deadly force have been granted to NG troops currently in the U.S. Capitol? Feel free to use the list I posted earlier if you need a baseline SRUF. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 9:34:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Which literally has nothing to do with the basic right to self defense that every NG troop has as a person. You and your shittily phrased 'answers' haven't adequately addressed anything in this thread. Here, try this: What additional justifications for the use of deadly force have been granted to NG troops currently in the U.S. Capitol? Feel free to use the list I posted earlier if you need a baseline SRUF. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm talking about NG troops being trained and briefed under which conditions they are legally justified in using deadly force. You are obviously vested in this some how and are not saying why. You are defending the actions of Biden, Pelosi ect and their fear and this use of deadly force rule against conservatives and Trump supporters. From all your posts. You've got a ball in this game some how. No one defends the use of deadly force against American people like this. Does that include immunity too? Which hasn't changed for decades, other than maybe a couple one-off scenarios? I think this is why people think you are defending [take your pick]: The NG troops at the U.S. Capitol still have the same deadly force auth they've always had. However, the clear implication from the thread title is that the NG troops have just now been cleared for additional justifications for the use of deadly force. I read the thread title and like so many in my position might, knowing that the NG already has auth to use deadly force, automatically thought 'What additional reasons did they get to use deadly force for the U.S. Capitol situation?' Into this thread you waltzed with some crappy phrasing amongst posters who might not be asking the right questions. What was your first post? Quoted: I find it strange that anybody would find fault with giving them the ability to use deadly force to prevent imminent death or serious bodily harm to themselves or others. Your very first post on the very first page fed right into that cluster fuck. "Giving them the ability"? That's why I asked you to clarify it, because I didn't think that's what you meant. Take all that for what you will. The guard doesn't self deploy. They have to be called up by their respective governor. When they are farmed out to another state or territory through an EMAC, both governors and TAG's have to agree to the rules and laws they will be subject to. An example: Oregon requested assistance from other states but the governor of Oregon said no other states would be armed in Oregon. Most states told Oregon to pound sand as a result. Which literally has nothing to do with the basic right to self defense that every NG troop has as a person. You and your shittily phrased 'answers' haven't adequately addressed anything in this thread. Here, try this: What additional justifications for the use of deadly force have been granted to NG troops currently in the U.S. Capitol? Feel free to use the list I posted earlier if you need a baseline SRUF. You've got it all figured out, boss. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 9:49:26 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You've got it all figured out, boss. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm talking about NG troops being trained and briefed under which conditions they are legally justified in using deadly force. You are obviously vested in this some how and are not saying why. You are defending the actions of Biden, Pelosi ect and their fear and this use of deadly force rule against conservatives and Trump supporters. From all your posts. You've got a ball in this game some how. No one defends the use of deadly force against American people like this. Does that include immunity too? Which hasn't changed for decades, other than maybe a couple one-off scenarios? I think this is why people think you are defending [take your pick]: The NG troops at the U.S. Capitol still have the same deadly force auth they've always had. However, the clear implication from the thread title is that the NG troops have just now been cleared for additional justifications for the use of deadly force. I read the thread title and like so many in my position might, knowing that the NG already has auth to use deadly force, automatically thought 'What additional reasons did they get to use deadly force for the U.S. Capitol situation?' Into this thread you waltzed with some crappy phrasing amongst posters who might not be asking the right questions. What was your first post? Quoted: I find it strange that anybody would find fault with giving them the ability to use deadly force to prevent imminent death or serious bodily harm to themselves or others. Your very first post on the very first page fed right into that cluster fuck. "Giving them the ability"? That's why I asked you to clarify it, because I didn't think that's what you meant. Take all that for what you will. The guard doesn't self deploy. They have to be called up by their respective governor. When they are farmed out to another state or territory through an EMAC, both governors and TAG's have to agree to the rules and laws they will be subject to. An example: Oregon requested assistance from other states but the governor of Oregon said no other states would be armed in Oregon. Most states told Oregon to pound sand as a result. Which literally has nothing to do with the basic right to self defense that every NG troop has as a person. You and your shittily phrased 'answers' haven't adequately addressed anything in this thread. Here, try this: What additional justifications for the use of deadly force have been granted to NG troops currently in the U.S. Capitol? Feel free to use the list I posted earlier if you need a baseline SRUF. You've got it all figured out, boss. Oh, you're gonna withdraw the field now that you've shitted up this thread? Good job.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 9:52:03 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Its nice to see congress finally accept that you need standard capacity mags and semi auto rifles to protect yourself. Legal precedent for the courts. O wait, forgot, the courts are also now commi controlled. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 9:52:30 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh, you're gonna withdraw the field now that you've shitted up this thread? Good job. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/Dwight_Disapproves-118.gif Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm talking about NG troops being trained and briefed under which conditions they are legally justified in using deadly force. You are obviously vested in this some how and are not saying why. You are defending the actions of Biden, Pelosi ect and their fear and this use of deadly force rule against conservatives and Trump supporters. From all your posts. You've got a ball in this game some how. No one defends the use of deadly force against American people like this. Does that include immunity too? Which hasn't changed for decades, other than maybe a couple one-off scenarios? I think this is why people think you are defending [take your pick]: The NG troops at the U.S. Capitol still have the same deadly force auth they've always had. However, the clear implication from the thread title is that the NG troops have just now been cleared for additional justifications for the use of deadly force. I read the thread title and like so many in my position might, knowing that the NG already has auth to use deadly force, automatically thought 'What additional reasons did they get to use deadly force for the U.S. Capitol situation?' Into this thread you waltzed with some crappy phrasing amongst posters who might not be asking the right questions. What was your first post? Quoted: I find it strange that anybody would find fault with giving them the ability to use deadly force to prevent imminent death or serious bodily harm to themselves or others. Your very first post on the very first page fed right into that cluster fuck. "Giving them the ability"? That's why I asked you to clarify it, because I didn't think that's what you meant. Take all that for what you will. The guard doesn't self deploy. They have to be called up by their respective governor. When they are farmed out to another state or territory through an EMAC, both governors and TAG's have to agree to the rules and laws they will be subject to. An example: Oregon requested assistance from other states but the governor of Oregon said no other states would be armed in Oregon. Most states told Oregon to pound sand as a result. Which literally has nothing to do with the basic right to self defense that every NG troop has as a person. You and your shittily phrased 'answers' haven't adequately addressed anything in this thread. Here, try this: What additional justifications for the use of deadly force have been granted to NG troops currently in the U.S. Capitol? Feel free to use the list I posted earlier if you need a baseline SRUF. You've got it all figured out, boss. Oh, you're gonna withdraw the field now that you've shitted up this thread? Good job. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/Dwight_Disapproves-118.gif I obviously have nothing to add. You have bested me with your superior knowledge and experience. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 12:22:17 AM EDT
[#44]
Quoted: I call bs. I havent seen anyone with a mag in their weapon. Please look up weapon conditions. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 11:39:26 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The guard has already shot folks before and probably will again.. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The first time those weekend warriors kill any American Citizens, will be the beginning of the end of the loony democrats! The guard has already shot folks before and probably will again.. |
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